HARVARD SUCKS!

Nuff said!

Agreed. . .any helpful hints on getting fish into Lynah for the Harvard game on Friday?

Outside your boxers, hanging down your pant leg next to your schlong. It gets rather cold down there rather quickly but you'll live if you use flannel boxers. Duct tape the top of the ziploc bag to the top of your drawers 2-3 inches belong your waistband. They can pat you down all they like; I've never met an usher that will pat you there.

In 2000, I got six 5-6 inch long fish into B this way. Of course, I got yanked by the ushers, but only after I got the 5th fish off. Thankfully, they didn't escort me all the way to the door and I was able to sneak back into B via the A-B aisle. These fish worked great as I was able to get great distance with a flick of the wrist.

In 1999, I duct taped a ziploc with 2 large-ish fairly flat fish to my chest over my t-shirt under my jersey. This can work too but is far more likely to get caught in a pat down.

Other suggestions:
a) inside a large white band instrument
b) inside a rogan's box - make sure to be eating a slice with one hand with the rogans box under the other
c) under the shirt of a busty friend; once again ushers are hesistant to give a thorough pat down
d) in Grady's pocket

Finally, if you do get caught, just be friendly, smile and give up the fish. With rare exception, you'll get in if you just surrender the fish. The ushers and police are not the Gestapo; they understand you are bound to try. In return, you should respect that they don't want to ruin your fun* but that they are just trying to do their job.

*Of the two guys at the top of B-C, the taller one is one of the friendliest guys you could meet while the other, shorter one, seems to take honest pleasure in ejecting people.

-john

check out todays sun article! its cute and funny! It's nice to know that the team hates Harvard too. Murray has some funny comments!

[www.cornellsun.com]

see my post about fish under the bring on harvard post if u want to hear some ways to get fish in.

The only issue I have with the article is billing it as one of the greatest rivalries in college hockey. That may be true for Cornellians, but most Harvard fans and players feel otherwise.

I would tend to disagree that HU players feel otherwise. Watching their reaction at recent games makes me think that they do care an awful lot about this game...even if it is just in response to our fanaticism. Watch their pile up after the OT goal at Bright on eLynah (errr...wait...we're in eLynah).

And what's a "Harvard fan?"

I think they wear T-shirts that say "Crimson Crazies". All three of them.

The shorter (and elder) of the two ushers at the top of B-C is a charming, delightful old gentleman who treats people with decency, respect, and good humor when they do the same for him.

Beeeej

I'm gonna go with John on this one. He's a crotchety old fart who lives to harass students unless he knows you well. And it has taken me years to get to that point with him. As long as he continues to judge people before getting to know them, I don't think he's doing his job very well...

You can have whatever opinion about the guy you like, but even in the worst of times I have almost never seen a Lynah usher "harass" a student who had not done something to earn his attention in the first place. So if you find him crotchety and have suffered his judgment, perhaps you just need to be asking yourself why - whether or not you agree with the rules it's his job to enforce.

Beeeej

What does this mean?

"It was a little disappointing last year, there wasn't as many fish," Paolini added. "But I'm sure we'll get more fish this year."

It's certainly *one of* the great college hockey rivalries (see also Clarkson-SLU, Minnesota-Wisconsin, BU-BC, UM-MSU). While Yale is Harvard's arch-enemy, make no mistake, we are their #1 hockey rival.

Carthage must be destroyed, and Harvard still sucks.

john is right about the busty friend bit. also, i've found that in general, ushers are *quite* hesitant to touch women at all -- i was barely given the once over in Yankees stadium after the terrorists attacks. same goes for concerts and the like here. So girls, and guys who have female friends/ fish mules, duct tape those fishies under the breasts (non-frozen works best), along the upper ribs, on the inside of the thighs, and on the butt. these last two will only work if you're wearing slightly baggy pants.
for those who want a loud lynah, remember, if you say that here, you're only preaching to the converted. so tell your friends.
and finally, because of my job, i can't do anything too raucous or attention-calling, so people, please, bring lots of funny signs on my behalf. you guys are awesome, and i know you'll come through. anyone for a "welcome cambridge community college" sign?

I can get the "Welcome Cambridge Community College" sign taken care of (that's a great one!!). The question is how big should it be? If it is to be noticed, it has to be kinda large, but then where do we put it? Maybe just hold (tape it) it against the glass during warm-ups? Keep the ideas for other signs coming, I'm game for making a bunch.

Harvard SUCKS. . .LGR!!!!

How about "Got Fish" . . .I dunno just an idea.

I've got a smaller one hanging in my room from LP last year that simply says; ANYTHING but Crimson. Can take that. Like the idea of making a smaller poster board sized sieve sign that we might be able to hang above Cruthers (sp? - too lazy to look up) or Grumet-Morris during the 1st and 3rd periods (like at BU) since there are no seats behind this location. As long as it is hung at the top of the glass it would be blocking no one's view. Just anouther idea. Ben, keep us informed about what coach says. Hopefully he is all for it. He should be since beating Harvard is one of his goals for the year.

Sun is filled with HARVARD is coming hockey articles today for anyone who might want to check them out (my early morning reading). Is there anyone else out there (I'm assuming that there are many) who gets up at the crack of dawn to go to work so that on Fridays they can take off really early and make it to games before face-off (or in this case, warm-ups)? Ahhh....what it takes to be Faithful!

"One of the greatest..."? Certainly from a Cornell fan's perspective, but my experience from having been on the other side is that the Harvard students don't rank our "rivalry" anywhere near that with Yale or BU or BC. Sure, when Cornell is good (or great) they love to beat us (just like anyone would love to beat a powerhouse), but back when they were dominating the series (mid-80s to mid-90s), there was little (or no) rivalry fever among the students. Obviously, I haven't conducted a poll of the current student body, but I do know about a dozen current students who confirm.

As for the players, I can't speak to the current group, but I spoke to many of the Crimson stars from the mid-80s to mid-90s and any special feelings they had about the games with Cornell related to the fact that they loved to "stick it" to the Faithful. They thought that although the Big Red fans were among the "best" as far as loyalty goes (and some felt that "Davy" was the best fight song in the league), they also thought the Faithful were particularly obnoxious. But as far as "getting up" for games, they were much higher for the Yale games and the Boston-area contests.

Finally, among the coaching staff only Bill Cleary had a special place for the "rivalry", but that was mostly historical. By the end of his career, he mostly thumbed his nose at Cornell (and nearly every other school).

Great News!!! Coach is all for hanging the "BIG RED Country" sign on the west wall of the rink under the scoreboards. Now our only problem is gettin it up there. . .so I may need some help. Melissa or Age or anyone else who would like to lend a hand is more than welcome to do so, just let me know. CUlater - I hope your boys like fish!!!

Harvard SUCKS. . .LGR!!!!

Great!

I'll probably be pretty busy getting the webcam ready though, so I might not be very helpful.

Am driving from Albany but hope to get there early enough to help. When were you wanting to put it up??? Are there holes in it for stringing it up? Sorry I can't remember. Am toying with the idea of taking 1/2 day off on fri. If I do that I can definietely be there to help! Will a ladder be needed or something? Can anyone else be there? I might get stuck in snow or traffic (silly old people driving 30 on a one lane road). Great job Ben!

Everything I have heard out of Harvard the last few years has been that we have supplanted their other rivals. Certianly, we were not as big a deal to them when they were murdering us every year.

It hardly matters -- this year, at least, this is The Game of the R.S. If the Crimson aren't up for it, so much the better.

With all the hype about Hahvad, I hope the boys on the ice don't pull punches on Brown, who seems to have sights set for any nationally ranked teams...

I can make it to Lynah anytime on Friday to help put the sheet up, if you need it.

The talk about signs and such made me remember that for The Game in '97, the Lunatic put out a fake issue of the game program that matched the actual program page for page and sold it outside of Lynah. Besides it being one of the funniest thing I've ever seen the Lunatic do, it contained a clip-out sign as a joke. It says in big, black, boring letters: "Hey Harvard! We would appreciate it if you would lose." So I just dug it up and scanned it in...if anyone has access to a laser printer and wants to print it out for display on the glass, you can find it at: [home.stny.rr.com]

There are 2 versions. The jpeg is the original greyscale scan. I tried taking out the inksmudges by converting it to a b&w gif. Both should be ready to print to 8.5 x 11 paper. But a warning: it takes a lot of ink.

And I don't know if I violated some copyright rules, but if anyone at the Lunatic cares, feel free to yell at me.

(Age, does this forum have the ability to recognize other html tags, like hyperlinks?)

Oh...I see how it works.

THis article is a MUST READ for teh Lynah Failthful featuring a few of our very own. It is damn funny at parts. Good to see some healthy egos (and well endowed men?) among the Faithful. LGR!

only sign idea I can think of is...
"Menu tonite: fish chowda...courtesy of section A, B..."


silly I know...but you gotta love the chowda that comes out of boston - fish, clam, seafood...mmm...

Here's the deal with hanging the "BIG RED Country" sign. . .There are wire conduits that will suffice to hang the sign on the wall ~ problem ~ we need a ladder to get to them. It was made extremely clear to me this morning that no rink staff will help us put it up (funny b/c I never asked for their help . Anyhow, help is needed, anyone who is interested in doing so (Rich, Age, Melissa) just let me know. The plan is to get it up sometime Friday afternoon (anytime we can get enough people there). Oh yeah, we HAVE to find a ladder that is approx. 10-12 feet high - can anyone help out?

Harvard Still SUCKS. . .LGR!!!

Age owns a ~8ft ladder that was acquired several years ago in the quest for DirecTV. I seriously doubt he'd be be willing to put it on his car and risk scratching the paint. However, I do suspect that if you asked him nicely that he'd let you borrow it were you willing to come over and pick it up.

I'd offer to help with the sign myself except that I might still be in transit from New Haven depending on when you want to put it up. If you want to wait as late as 6pm, I'll be happy to assist. I even know how to tie lots of cool knots and stuff...

(John then gets the inspiration that the Boy Scouts could become much more hip and edgy by adding a BDSM merit badge. Gives a whole new dimension to the idea of co-ed Explorer Scouting.

Anyway, I digress...

-j

So I went to an AHL last game in Syracuse - the Crunch were hosting the Hershey Bears with rookie winger Steve Moore, fresh from harvard He only had 15 or so points through 42 games I think. I wonder if there are more Moore's in Hershey's future...

don't have a truck or anything. hope to be in the ithaca area around five. can help hang any time thereafter. biggest problem is getting a ladder. if age has one he's willing to lend out can anyone else get it?? am getting the feeling that a few people will be needed to help. would be nice to be able to actually put the sign up since coach (and maybe team) already know about it and sice it's be one more way to put the crimson in their place.

he has actualyly played a few game for the avs so far this season too. Tho he's from Harvard it is still nice to see a recent ECAC grad getting some chances in the NHL. Judy might know more about him since she's a Hershey fan as well (but Cornell comes first, right!?!)

I've got a Jeep Cherokee and there should be ample room for the ladder. I could wiat until 5:00, but like you said the earlier the better. Anything to help get the guys up for te game. I know if I saw signs up long before the majority of fans showed up I would be SUPER pumped to kick some tail!!! I'll get in touch with Age and ask about the ladder. Keep me posted on if you'd like me to wait or if I should get it us ASAP. LGR!!!

-b

Well, I know that the band room in Barton Hall has a ladder about that height that the drum major stands on to conduct during football season. I may be presumptuous in thinking that it would be OK to borrow it...I'm just an alumnus and don't have access to that room. But I do know Chris, the pep band head manager, and I can ask him if we can use it. He usually has the band room open for report time sometime around 5:30, and it may be possible to borrow it a little beforehand, too.

Smoore-on is in Hershey and it doesn't look like he's going back to the Avs anytime soon since the other recalls to the Avs have actually produced something...goals, assists...and he didn't while he'd been there. He's not very productive, but then, neither is the team. (The just got off a 16 game winless streak) Hershey's got another game in Syracuse Friday night though I doubt anyone's interested.

Yes, Cornell comes first, Melissa.

Also, since I will be leaving Baltimore between 12 and 1, and with the storm, I have no clue when I'll get there. But if I get there in time, I'll help with the sign as well. Melissa will know when I leave and the expected time of arrival.

I'd also like to say that there's nothing like Lynah. After catching a few games at HersheyPark Arena (next door to really yummy chocolate milk shakes at Chocolate World), I start the miss the atmosphere at Lynah. Where else can you get a constant stream of noise, taunting and lots of cheers?

Rich, if you could talk to Chris and see if it's taller than 8' we would be in business. If that doesn't work out then I'll just borrow a ladder from Age.
LGR!!!

-b

Response from Chris: we're pretty sure the ladder is 8-feet, and the band room will be open from 4:30. I can bring the ladder up to Lynah at 4:45, and meet the sign-hangers.

LGR, Hahvahd SUCKS!

Ben just picked up my ladder. Should be good in the vertical assistance department.

...they just don't travel well.

When Harvard was a perennial national championship contender in the late 80's, and the ECAC's were held in the Gahden just 6 T-stops and 200 feet from Harvard Square, the Crimson would pack the place with 60... even 70 fans.

OK...then I won't worry about haulin' the band ladder slightly uphill.

Rich, can you still come up around 4:45 to help me put it up? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Ben

sorry...double post

Ben

Might be there to help arround that time. Decied to take 1/2 day off work on account of the messy drive. Am leaving at noon. God willing I'll be there by 4:45. Have emade some totally lame poster board signs. Nothing really creeative (it was late at night and i was tired) but it's the thought that counts right??? Posting anything telling Hravard tha they stink is better than nothing. I'll try and be there. Hope that Rich can come just in case I don't make it!

Yep. I'm already in town (drove in last night when it was definitely above freezing), and will be there at 4:45. Recognize me by my road jersey #96.

I note that the featured game in this week's USCHO ECAC column is the Big Red -- Little Crimson showdown. The column picks up a bit on the "rivalry" thread here and includes the following quote:

"'It's a big thing for them,' said Harvard head coach Mark Mazzoleni when asked about the rivalry. 'Harvard has its own backyard rivalries here with Boston College, Boston University and Northeastern. Those are the traditional rivals along with Harvard and Yale, which has been a tremendous rivalry over the years. I don't know what Cornell's focus is when they play, but it seems like it's us which is fine.'"

I seem to have totally missed out on this storied Harvard-Yale hockey rivalry. I've occasionally heard people mention that there is one, but I don't ever recall hearing of a legendary Havard-Yale game or how pumped fans of either school were to be facing their arch rival. (And remember which team Erich Segal used as the Crimson's nemesis in _Love_Story_.) Maybe I should watch my tape of the Harvard-Yale ECAC GOTW last year for some insight into this.

I think there's not specifically a hockey rivalry between Harvard and yale, but there's such a huge football / academic rivalry that it could possibly be applied to all of the sports in sort of a general way. My brother was in the band at Harvard (wow, I can't believe I'm admitting that in public!) and all of their hate songs are aimed at yale. The number of people that show up for the Harvard/Yale football game every year is insane.

And the Harvard hockey game at Yale is now played in New Haven's Veterans Coliseum to handle the crowd. Something like 60,000 people were in the Bowl for this year's Y-H football game (probably more than were at all Cornell's games combined). It IS a big rivalry.

sorry. . .

I am surpised nobody mentioned this...but for the first time this year, Cornell gave up exactly 3 goals.

Let me know, Ben, when you see a Yale-Harvard hockey game.

Al, we are all entitled to our own opinion, let's just leave it at that.


LGR!!!

Yeah. we were talking about the 3 goal stat. Judy hypothhesized that we were saving it for Harvard. Maybe it was a conselation prize??

If anyone cares, here is how the Boston Globe described Lynah in their Sat morning edition:

"All this came before a chanting standing-room-only crowd at Lynah Rink, college hockey's version of Duke's Cameron Indoor Stadium, only more disrespectful. Greeted by a seafood medley of fish and lobsters tossed onto the ice by Cornell fans during pregame warmups, Harvard was then assaulted by the Big Red offense."

The sucking continues in the Beanpot. Northeastern up 5-2 late in the game. Grumet-Morris flubbed NU's first two goals, and it went downhill from there.

the final is 5-2. They're still sucking. sleeping out of exams, got the crap beaten out of them by us...So if you're sleeping and you get the crap beaten out of you, does that put you in a coma?
Does anyone know if they're on a goalie rotation or if Dov is the better goalie out of the three? If he is...he's really sucking right now...

Bump because two HARVARD SUCKS threads are better than one.

Also, this might be a good time to experiment with threaded view.

Wow, can't believe you found this old thread of mine. That was in the apostrophe days of user names.

[CNN:] A former Harvard morgue manager is accused of stealing, selling and shipping human body parts, indictment says

CNN
A former morgue manager at Harvard Medical School is facing federal charges for allegedly stealing, selling and shipping human body parts, according to an indictment.

Cedric Lodge, 55, who worked at the medical school’s morgue in Boston, “stole dissected portions of donated cadavers, including…heads, brains, skin, bones, and other human remains, without the knowledge or permission of (the school) and removed those remains from the morgue in Massachusetts and transported them to his residence in New Hampshire,” the federal indictment, filed Tuesday in US District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, said.

Be careful what they throw on the ice in Cambridge.

Drop the mic, Bill. (slow clap)