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Opponents and Others 2023-24

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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 04, 2023 11:03PM

Weder
BearLover
There are some YouTube videos with yours of college hockey facilities. For example, UMass, which provides its players 24-hour access to a rink and gym exclusive to the hockey team:
[youtu.be]

Contrast with the Cornell men’s team, which shares its ice with the women’s team, figure skating team, club team, intramurals, and recreational skaters, and which has a couple exclusive bikes and treadmills.

Didn’t they add a weight room in Lynah for just the hockey teams this year? I saw a video on Instagram in which Doug Derraugh gave a quick tour. I think it’s in a former locker room. So they’re at least doing what they can absent a much larger hockey facility.
Yeah, they did. I think it’s just a few machines, but at least it’s something.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 08, 2023 10:28PM

Finally some good help from the ECAC tonight.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 09, 2023 02:33AM

chimpfood
Finally some good help from the ECAC tonight.

Yup:

Clarkson 5 Stonehill 1
Union 5 Vermont 4
Yale 5 Merrimack 2
Princeton 4 Sacred Heart 0
Dartmouth 4 Arizona State 4 (ot)

Cornell back up to 22 in PWR.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 09, 2023 12:16PM

chimpfood
Finally some good help from the ECAC tonight.

RPI will rectify that this afternoon. :D
Actually, I doubt that the 'Tute losing at this point will hurt the Cornell much.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 09, 2023 10:56PM

ursusminor
chimpfood
Finally some good help from the ECAC tonight.

RPI will rectify that this afternoon. :D
Actually, I doubt that the 'Tute losing at this point will hurt the Cornell much.
1-0 loss; damn fine effort by the Engineers.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: December 09, 2023 11:01PM

I don’t think the ECAC Is ever quite as bad as it seems, it’s just that the lower tier of the conference are always trying to punch up in out of conference games instead of playing teams at their level.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 10, 2023 01:56AM

chimpfood
I don’t think the ECAC Is ever quite as bad as it seems, it’s just that the lower tier of the conference are always trying to punch up in out of conference games instead of playing teams at their level.
I can only comment on RPI. We certainly seem to be doing that this year, but last year we mainly played AHA teams.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.sub-174-231-51.myvzw.com)
Date: December 15, 2023 09:12PM

Surprisingly OT in Troy. 3-3 @ end of regulation.

RPI wins!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/15/2023 09:23PM by marty.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2023 06:55PM

Cornell holding at 21 PWR.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: December 29, 2023 09:49PM

Since I didn't feel like driving up to Lake Placid tonight from New Haven, I went to watch Yale play BU instead. Cornell is the only team which has beaten both of them this season. I assume for PWR, it was better for us for BU to win, which they did 6-1. The scary thing was BU was missing three of its stars, all of whom were playing for their respective countries in the U18s. Even so, the talent/skill level of the BU players is absurd. BU scored twice in the first six minutes and it looked like a blowout, but Yale scored later in the period and was outplaying BU to start the second period. But then a Yale player got a 5-minute major and even though BU only scored once on the ensuing PP, that turned the momentum around and BU coasted the rest of the night, although the game did get fairly chippy. It was nice to see a full house at the Yale Whale, including a large contingent of BU fans.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 29, 2023 09:56PM

dbilmes
Since I didn't feel like driving up to Lake Placid tonight from New Haven, I went to watch Yale play BU instead. Cornell is the only team which has beaten both of them this season. I assume for PWR, it was better for us for BU to win, which they did 6-1. The scary thing was BU was missing three of its stars, all of whom were playing for their respective countries in the U18s. Even so, the talent/skill level of the BU players is absurd. BU scored twice in the first six minutes and it looked like a blowout, but Yale scored later in the period and was outplaying BU to start the second period. But then a Yale player got a 5-minute major and even though BU only scored once on the ensuing PP, that turned the momentum around and BU coasted the rest of the night, although the game did get fairly chippy. It was nice to see a full house at the Yale Whale, including a large contingent of BU fans.
It was better for us for Yale to win, because we play them twice and BU only once. In addition, I believe that Yale winning also improves the RPI of the other ECAC teams, which thereby improves our own RPI? Not a big deal either way who won, though.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Iceberg (172.58.111.---)
Date: December 29, 2023 10:18PM

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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: arugula (---.sub-174-216-214.myvzw.com)
Date: December 30, 2023 06:22PM

Anyone watching Princeton’s beating the hell out of Harvard? Harvard has one win! How in gods name did we lose to them? Donato is a terrible coach.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 30, 2023 07:10PM

Harvard must have thought it was a tournament. Up 2-0, outshooting Princeton 15-7, and then... 5 unanswered goals.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 30, 2023 07:12PM

Clarkson beat UMass in overtime; I don't know if that will delay our start.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Iceberg (172.58.139.---)
Date: December 31, 2023 07:13PM

arugula
Anyone watching Princeton’s beating the hell out of Harvard? Harvard has one win! How in gods name did we lose to them? Donato is a terrible coach.

I saw the highlights and Harvard's defense looked like a comedy show before some of those Princeton goals. Two of the defenders literally ran into each other in one instance!
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: 617BigRed (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 04, 2024 03:09PM

Guess will not need my planned "Hey Gay, Copy This: Harvard Sux Go Red!" sign for Lynah East in a few weeks anymore...
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 05, 2024 04:09PM

US wins the world juniors. No offense at all to the kid but how did keopple make the world junior team a couple years ago?
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.sub-174-231-52.myvzw.com)
Date: January 06, 2024 07:35PM

QPuke @ Northeastern going into OT tired at 3.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:13PM

Colgate leading 4-3 at PWR #1 Maine with 10 minutes to go.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2024 09:16PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:18PM

Colgate kills off a 5th Maine pp. 4-3,7 minutes to go.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:18PM

With RPI hanging on to beat Brown, Harvard is last in the ECAC standings.

If the RPI women could get a league win, both Harvard teams would be in 12th. RPI did sweep UVM this weekend by identical 5-1 scores.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2024 09:24PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:23PM

ursusminor
With RPI hanging on to beat Brown, Harvard is last in the ECAC standings.
Harvard is also the bottom ECAC team in PWR, at 57.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:28PM

Jesus, great individual play by a Maine player to tie it with 2:25 to go.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Iceberg (---.tmodns.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:45PM

Colgate and Maine tie after a potential Colgate GWG is waved off on OT. Not a bad effort by the visiting team
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2024 08:53AM by Iceberg.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2024 09:50PM

Decent night for the conference.

Colgate ties at PWR #1 Maine
Princeton loses at #11 UNH
SLU ties at #18 RIT
Quinnipiac ties at #24 Northeastern
Dartmouth beats #32 Vermont
Harvard loses at #35 Lowell
Clarkson wins at #58 Canisius
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: toddlose (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: January 07, 2024 12:47AM

Trotsky
Decent night for the conference.

Colgate ties at PWR #1 Maine
Princeton loses at #11 UNH
SLU ties at #18 RIT
Quinnipiac ties at #24 Northeastern
Dartmouth beats #32 Vermont
Harvard loses at #35 Lowell
Clarkson wins at #58 Canisius
.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2024 12:53AM by toddlose.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2024 11:13AM

We pushed up to 19.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 07, 2024 11:26AM

next week at Ariz st.
Last chance to get that OC PWR bump.

Minn Duluth didnt help
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 09, 2024 03:42PM

ursusminor
With RPI hanging on to beat Brown, Harvard is last in the ECAC standings.

If the RPI women could get a league win, both Harvard teams would be in 12th. RPI did sweep UVM this weekend by identical 5-1 scores.

According to USCHO, this has already happened since they gave RPI 2 league victories for the sweep of UVM. [www.uscho.com] Well, they once were in the ECAC. This may get fixed before others look.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 09, 2024 07:22PM

Sacred Hearts rink is on display live as they host Army on regional sports channel SNY.

Mac Gadowski playing as a Black Knight rather than a Nittany Lion for his Dad.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2024 07:26PM by marty.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 09, 2024 09:10PM

Trotsky
We pushed up to 19.

With regard to pairwise, do we gain if BU wins on a given night (such as tonight vs. Northeastern)?

I don't know who to root for.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 09, 2024 09:59PM

marty
Trotsky
We pushed up to 19.

With regard to pairwise, do we gain if BU wins on a given night (such as tonight vs. Northeastern)?

I don't know who to root for.
Yes. Our ranking is a function, in part, of our strength of schedule. Also, NEU is in striking distance of an at-large bid. A win over BU would have substantially improved their position, including passing us in the Pairwise.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (12.151.182.---)
Date: January 10, 2024 01:49PM

We improve when an opponent wins, unless they beat an opponent we played more times.

After this weekend we are going to become the world's biggest fans of ASU.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (12.151.182.---)
Date: January 10, 2024 01:51PM

BearLover
NEU
No. Just no.

NU. NOR if you must have 3 chars.

But none of this Deutschland shit.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 12, 2024 07:51PM

If the CHN app is to be believed, Q scored six goals in the first 8:52 of its game against Princeton, finishing the first period with six goals on 10 SOG. That's a rough stretch for the Princeton goalie/s. I'm hoping they pulled the starter at some point during the onslaught, perhaps after the fourth goal just 5:13 into the game.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 12, 2024 09:40PM

Also it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 12, 2024 09:46PM

marty
Also it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
Actually, Brown was ahead 4-3 when it scored that buzzer beater.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 12, 2024 10:27PM

dbilmes
marty
Also it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.
Actually, Brown was ahead 4-3 when it scored that buzzer beater.

Ok. Error on the score I read. Thanks.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: January 13, 2024 07:49AM

marty
Also it looks as if Brown scored with less than 1 second left to beat a team that some people think Sucks.

But their draft picks…!!

 
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: January 13, 2024 05:40PM

I was just watching the Holy Cross - Army game. The announcer actually referred to Cornell going to Cambridge and calling it "Lynah East." I had no idea that name was known beyond eLynah!
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 14, 2024 12:33AM

Colgate lost 3-2 in OT at LIU in both games this weekend. Of course, Cornell somehow managed to lay an egg at home against Colgate when they were only able to dress 4 defensemen.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 14, 2024 09:36AM

whatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-212.myvzw.com)
Date: January 14, 2024 10:05AM

upprdeck
whatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 14, 2024 10:38AM

since RPI is the tie breaking component for many of the teams thats gonna happen.

the COP and H2H come into play for limited teams.

Umass is an example.. if we beat Harv we win the COP and had we beaten them instead of a tie we would win the PWR even with losing the RPI.

But how often RPI isnt the real reason for winning a PWR would need some review to see.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-212.myvzw.com)
Date: January 14, 2024 10:46AM

upprdeck
since RPI is the tie breaking component for many of the teams thats gonna happen.

the COP and H2H come into play for limited teams.

Umass is an example.. if we beat Harv we win the COP and had we beaten them instead of a tie we would win the PWR even with losing the RPI.

But how often RPI isnt the real reason for winning a PWR would need some review to see.

It seems like every year, there's only a couple or so differences between RPI and PWR rankings. Why go through all the hassle?
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 14, 2024 10:52AM

Dafatone
upprdeck
whatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.
Yeah. I think it’s just RPI, except you drop a spot for each team behind you in RPI who has a (1) positive record against you and (2) better record than you against common opponents. This happened with Minn-Duluth last year: we had higher RPI, but they beat us head to head and had a better record against common opponents, so we ended up one ranking lower in the PWR.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-212.myvzw.com)
Date: January 14, 2024 11:19AM

BearLover
Dafatone
upprdeck
whatever happens vs Quin

if they win the other 3 we go from 7th to most likely 2nd in the league.

now we need wins to build up the RPI to have a chance in the PWR

Our RPI right now is .5447. From what I can tell, .54 is usually enough to get in. So maybe some of the teams ahead of us will slip a little.

The more I look at it, the more I don't understand the point of the pairwise. It's almost exactly the same as RPI every season. I'd just switch to straight RPI.
Yeah. I think it’s just RPI, except you drop a spot for each team behind you in RPI who has a (1) positive record against you and (2) better record than you against common opponents. This happened with Minn-Duluth last year: we had higher RPI, but they beat us head to head and had a better record against common opponents, so we ended up one ranking lower in the PWR.

Yup. Or, in the rare case you go 3-0 or better against a team, you beat them even if they have a better RPI and a better common opponent record.

But flipping one pairwise doesn't actually move you up. Say Team A is 39th and Team B is 40th in PWR and RPI, with A winning one more comparison than B. Then B flips a comparison with some other Team C. Now A and B are tied in comparisons won. The tiebreaker there is still RPI, so A is still 39 and B 40.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2024 11:00PM

Our good buddy TJ Semptimphelter just got chased for a second straight game, giving up 3 goals on 6 shots to national powerhouse Augustana (6-11-3). ASU outshooting them 36-14 but still tied with 3 to play in regulation. We could use a Sun Devil goal.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2024 11:01PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 20, 2024 10:58PM

#13 Massachusetts wins at #28 Northeastern.
#1 BU wins at #31 Vermont.
#24 Minnesota-Duluth loses at #10 Western Michigan.
#18 Arizona State wins vs #34 Augustana.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/20/2024 11:07PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 21, 2024 01:59PM

You may have heard about an Ohio State player who speared a Minnesota player on the bench last night. Here is the same piece of shit in a USHL game 2 years ago with a friend of ours. Also a fine example of derp announcing.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2024 01:59PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 21, 2024 05:03PM

Trotsky
You may have heard about an Ohio State player who speared a Minnesota player on the bench last night. Here is the same piece of shit in a USHL game 2 years ago with a friend of ours. Also a fine example of derp announcing.

Here's video of last night's spearing:
?t=WLqjMVyBcYlOnqxbrmjhIQ&s=19
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 21, 2024 06:12PM

Love the linesman take down. On first view I thought he decked him. If only.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 22, 2024 12:27PM

Cornell led BU for 12 min.

Since that game BU has only trailed 1 time for 8 min total.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 22, 2024 05:56PM

RIT as of January 2024 is in the polling Top 20 (19 as of Jan. 22, both polls). If only we had two more games allowed, we could have played them this year in an early January dead week. They would be a reasonable replacement if Quinnipiac decides to flee to Hockey East or <gag> B1G.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 23, 2024 09:03AM

billhoward
RIT as of January 2024 is in the polling Top 20 (19 as of Jan. 22, both polls). If only we had two more games allowed, we could have played them this year in an early January dead week. They would be a reasonable replacement if Quinnipiac decides to flee to Hockey East or <gag> B1G.

Replace Quinnipiac with Arizona State. The ECAC could use the crossbreeding.


 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 23, 2024 11:54AM

Greg please be horny in a private channel.

 
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (12.151.182.---)
Date: January 23, 2024 12:14PM

ugarte
Greg please be horny in a private channel.

It's too late for me. Save yourselves.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 23, 2024 01:41PM

Trotsky
ugarte
Greg please be horny in a private channel.

It's too late for me. Save yourselves.

50/50 he’s on Epstein’s travel logs (disclaimer: it’s a joke)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2024 01:43PM by scoop85.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: January 23, 2024 10:22PM

scoop85
Trotsky
ugarte
Greg please be horny in a private channel.

It's too late for me. Save yourselves.

50/50 he’s on Epstein’s travel logs (disclaimer: it’s a joke)

Those women are too old for Epstein's clientele.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2024 09:19PM

BC with a pair of ENGs to pull away from BU.

 
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2024 09:33PM

Pairwise #10 Western Mich lost to #22 Colorado College in OT and dropped four spots down to #14. Unfortunately Michigan beat Wisconsin and St. Cloud is winning. We still aren’t very close to any of the teams ahead of us.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 26, 2024 11:10PM

BearLover
Unfortunately Michigan beat Wisconsin and St. Cloud is winning.

St. Cloud just lost in OT.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: TimV (---.inf.spectrum.com)
Date: January 26, 2024 11:58PM

Trotsky
billhoward
RIT as of January 2024 is in the polling Top 20 (19 as of Jan. 22, both polls). If only we had two more games allowed, we could have played them this year in an early January dead week. They would be a reasonable replacement if Quinnipiac decides to flee to Hockey East or <gag> B1G.

Replace Quinnipiac with Arizona State. The ECAC could use the crossbreeding.


He was talking about both rows, no?bolt

 
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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm3.ptd.net)
Date: January 27, 2024 08:30PM

UConn leading Q 3-1 late in the 2nd.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 02, 2024 11:32PM

Arizona State manages - barely - not to lose in regulation to an epically bad Lindenwood team (and ties it on a shorty, so good on them for not giving up). Is ASU playing shitty hockey just to spite us?!

 
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 02, 2024 11:39PM

Beeeej
Arizona State manages - barely - not to lose in regulation to an epically bad Lindenwood team (and ties it on a shorty, so good on them for not giving up). Is ASU playing shitty hockey just to spite us?!

…and loses the shootout anyway.

 
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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2024 12:37AM

Cornell is getting very little help from other results. It’s hard to see us catching anybody in the top 12 of the PWR, and 13 and 14 will be tough to catch unless we win almost every remaining game. Frankly, almost everyone ahead of us is a blue-blood program with a really good team this year. We need to keep winning.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2024 12:49AM

We need to win the auto bid, which, happily, is the point of the post-season anyway.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2024 12:51AM

Trotsky
We need to win the auto bid, which, happily, is the point of the post-season anyway.
No we don’t. Cornell will very likely be in the NCAAs if we lose one, two, or maybe even three games without winning the ECAC tournament.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2024 12:55AM

BearLover
Trotsky
We need to win the auto bid, which, happily, is the point of the post-season anyway.
No we don’t. Cornell will very likely be in the NCAAs if we lose one, two, or maybe even three games without winning the ECAC tournament.
You're the one who said we need to keep winning. If we need to keep winning it is because otherwise we will fall out of PWR contention and have to win the auto bid.

It's your baby, Rosemary.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2024 01:10AM

Trotsky
BearLover
Trotsky
We need to win the auto bid, which, happily, is the point of the post-season anyway.
No we don’t. Cornell will very likely be in the NCAAs if we lose one, two, or maybe even three games without winning the ECAC tournament.
You're the one who said we need to keep winning. If we need to keep winning it is because otherwise we will fall out of PWR contention and have to win the auto bid.

It's your baby, Rosemary.
Yeah, we need to keep winning…the doesn’t mean win literally every single remaining game. Cornell has at least 11 games left before the NCAAs. Even the best hockey team is very unlikely to win 11 games in a row. Saying we need to “keep winning” just means we need to keep winning at a very high rate.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 03, 2024 09:14AM

we need BU/BC to do their thing as well as Ndak/Denver and MSU/Minn/Wisc

Mich is only a few games over .500 and under .500 in the B10.. They get swept by MSU and/OR Minn and they could fall below .500

crazy world where UNH is 8th in HE but 16th in PWR
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 03, 2024 10:13AM

I'm not sure if I care about this. I never cared for him but strangely don't feel Scadenfreude.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 04, 2024 01:14PM

Playing the PWR what if is pretty hard to see us getting very much higher without some bad play above us no matter how well we play down the stretch.

If Mich doesnt get swept this weekend by MSU they gain on us and if they sweep they really gain on us

Umass has 4 chances to win over higher ranked teams. so best to have them beat UNH in a few weeks and hope they lose a bunch

if WMU just splits and gets swept vs NDAK we have a slight chance to pass them

st cloud needs to get swept by Denver in a few weeks

Prov would help by Maine sweeping them at home

we might be able to get to 10-11th or so with continued good play. But even home sweeps and splits on the rd we lose ground probably need 7-1 to stay in the race.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: chimpfood (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 04, 2024 01:29PM

Let’s not forget that conference tournaments count for the pairwise, we have plenty of time and games to go.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2024 01:31PM

upprdeck
Playing the PWR what if is pretty hard to see us getting very much higher without some bad play above us no matter how well we play down the stretch.

If Mich doesnt get swept this weekend by MSU they gain on us and if they sweep they really gain on us

Umass has 4 chances to win over higher ranked teams. so best to have them beat UNH in a few weeks and hope they lose a bunch

if WMU just splits and gets swept vs NDAK we have a slight chance to pass them

st cloud needs to get swept by Denver in a few weeks

Prov would help by Maine sweeping them at home

we might be able to get to 10-11th or so with continued good play. But even home sweeps and splits on the rd we lose ground probably need 7-1 to stay in the race.
Also, Colorado College and UNH are right behind us and can gain a lot of ground given their remaining schedule (including NCHC/HE playoffs). Seems like this may be a really strange year where the NCAA top ~16 is top-heavy and everyone else is mediocre to bad.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Iceberg (172.56.218.---)
Date: February 04, 2024 06:40PM

I would think it would be in our best interests for BU to win the Beanpot, no?
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: marty (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 04, 2024 06:50PM

Iceberg
I would think it would be in our best interests for BU to win the Beanpot, no?

Harvard over BU or BU over Harvard? We don't want either to lose tomorrow.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 04, 2024 06:52PM

marty
Iceberg
I would think it would be in our best interests for BU to win the Beanpot, no?

Harvard over BU or BU over Harvard? We don't want either to lose tomorrow.
We want Harvard to win because we play them more.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-216-244.myvzw.com)
Date: February 04, 2024 09:22PM

Most championships, NCAA history
1. Michigan-9
1. Denver-9
3. NoDak-8
4. Wisconsin-6
5. BC-5
5. BU-5
5. Minnesota-5

These teams are currently 1,2,3,5,8,9,12 in the pairwise.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 01:48AM

have to be honest it was weird seeing wisconsin and maine stink and i'm glad they don't

 
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 12:49PM

Yes on Wisconsin. Maine cheated; to heck with them.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 12:53PM

Harvard vs Northeastern is the 5pm Beanplop game. Harvard sucks; go Harvard!
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: ugarte (---.sub-174-216-208.myvzw.com)
Date: February 05, 2024 01:24PM

Trotsky
Yes on Wisconsin. Maine cheated; to heck with them.
if the way they stink meant i got to watch Kariya play in college, i can live with that.

 
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 04:21PM

Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 05:01PM

"On the biggest stage there is."

Well...
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: The Rancor (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 05:02PM

Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

What is the back story here? I remember Walsh getting popped for taking money from boosters. Was Kariya also?
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 05:05PM

The Rancor
Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

What is the back story here? I remember Walsh getting popped for taking money from boosters. Was Kariya also?
Kariya was not involved in anything.

The big Maine scandal was admissions.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: pfibiger (---.sub-174-197-71.myvzw.com)
Date: February 05, 2024 05:10PM

Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

I saw a couple articles that said he had offers from BU, BC, and Harvard and was being recruited by a pile of schools.

 
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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 05:42PM

pfibiger
Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

I saw a couple articles that said he had offers from BU, BC, and Harvard and was being recruited by a pile of schools.
I think I remember something like that. BC and Harvard ring a bell.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 07:39PM

The Rancor
Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

What is the back story here? I remember Walsh getting popped for taking money from boosters. Was Kariya also?

I don't recall anything about Walsh taking money from boosters. And even if he did, I don't think that's against any rules.

Walsh broke a hundred other rules, though -- mainly getting ineligible players skated by because Maine's admissions and compliance department was non-existent, clueless, didn't care or all of the above. This led to numerous players getting declared ineligible after the fact, and games having to be forfeited left and right. And when he got dinged on one, he'd just try it again with someone else. Walsh always thought he could outsmart everyone, and that his interpretation of the rules were correct, and he was defiant about it. Moreso, he was just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2024 07:40PM by adamw.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: February 05, 2024 08:15PM

If we think our freshmen are good, BC has an all-freshman line which has combined for 38 goals this season.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: scoop85 (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 05, 2024 08:24PM

dbilmes
If we think our freshmen are good, BC has an all-freshman line which has combined for 38 goals this season.

If we had 3 1st rounders on a line they’d have the same type of production
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 05, 2024 08:33PM

scoop85
dbilmes
If we think our freshmen are good, BC has an all-freshman line which has combined for 38 goals this season.

If we had 3 1st rounders on a line they’d have the same type of production
Draft picks? Draft picks?????
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 06, 2024 06:54AM

scoop85
dbilmes
If we think our freshmen are good, BC has an all-freshman line which has combined for 38 goals this season.

If we had 3 1st rounders on a line they’d have the same type of production
And they'd leave after 2 years.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 06, 2024 12:00PM

adamw
The Rancor

What is the back story here? I remember Walsh getting popped for taking money from boosters. Was Kariya also?

I don't recall anything about Walsh taking money from boosters. And even if he did, I don't think that's against any rules.

Walsh did take some money from boosters while he was on a five-game unpaid suspension, despite specifically being told by the university NOT to take the money. I'm unclear whether that was a rules violation, but apparently the real problem was that he lied about the whole situation a few months later during an investigation.

 
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Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2024 05:19PM

adamw
The Rancor
Trotsky
Kariya would have just played somewhere else.

I always wondered who else recruited him. He did come out of BC when the McCutcheon pipeline was at its peak.

What is the back story here? I remember Walsh getting popped for taking money from boosters. Was Kariya also?

I don't recall anything about Walsh taking money from boosters. And even if he did, I don't think that's against any rules.

Walsh broke a hundred other rules, though -- mainly getting ineligible players skated by because Maine's admissions and compliance department was non-existent, clueless, didn't care or all of the above. This led to numerous players getting declared ineligible after the fact, and games having to be forfeited left and right. And when he got dinged on one, he'd just try it again with someone else. Walsh always thought he could outsmart everyone, and that his interpretation of the rules were correct, and he was defiant about it. Moreso, he was just trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.

Sounds as if he might have had a better future running for President of the United States. whistle
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 07, 2024 11:14PM

Cornell needs to work hard on the road this weekend

Root for MSU/Maine sweeps and Umass to get nothing better than a split vs UConn.

Really wild would be WMU splitting with Omaha

Cornell potentially could move to 10th if all that happens.
 
Re: Opponents and Others 2023-24
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: February 09, 2024 05:05AM

Trotsky
scoop85
dbilmes
If we think our freshmen are good, BC has an all-freshman line which has combined for 38 goals this season.

If we had 3 1st rounders on a line they’d have the same type of production
And they'd leave after 2 years.

If you can reload with 3.more every two years, who cares?
 
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