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2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals

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2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 19, 2023 11:13AM

Selection show today at 6:30pm EDT, live on ESPNU.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dunc (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 19, 2023 05:56PM

Also on ESPN+
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:21PM

Dunc
Also on ESPN+

Are you sure or should I upgrade my cable 4 days earlier than planned.

Edit:
I see it listed so I'll delay the "upgrade".
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2023 06:26PM by marty.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dunc (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:27PM

marty
Dunc
Also on ESPN+

Are you sure or should I upgrade my cable 4 days earlier than planned.

I see it listed so I'll delay the "upgrade".

Yep its listed for 6:30 on ESPN+ here is a link:

[www.espn.com]
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:34PM

and ESPNU on cable
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:42PM

Fargo:
Minnesota
Canisius
---
St. Cloud
Minnesota State

Bridgeport:
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
---
Harvard
Ohio State

 
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:47PM

Manchester:
Denver
Hero
---
BU
Western Michigan

Allentown:
Michigan
colgate
---
Penn State
Michigan Tech

 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2023 06:50PM by ugarte.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BMac (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:48PM

Manchester

Denver
BU
Western Michigan
Cornell
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:54PM

Per ESPN, We're in the late game (@ 5:30).
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 06:54PM

99.7% chance of emerging from the region imo

 
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:05PM

ugarte
99.7% chance of emerging from the region imo

Wish you were a legal book.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ajh258 (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:14PM

Any word from the ticket office on how to purchase Cornell section seats in Manchester?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:35PM

will the ticket office app be working this week is the question..
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:47PM

I’ve never seen a great crowd at a regional. Think we are all safe walking up.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:48PM

the only reason to buy ahead is of you really want to sit in a certain section.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 07:49PM

upprdeck
the only reason to buy ahead is of you really want to sit in a certain section.

I’m sure it’s not hard “migrating” over to our home section.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:03PM

its the 2nd game at dinner time.. the loser of game 1 is leaving, the winner most are gonna go celebrate. how many is Denver bringing on a thursday. its at best 1/3 full.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:08PM

upprdeck
... its at best 1/3 full.
You're an optimist.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:12PM

I just went to the Ticket-shafter site. There were a lot fewer seats available than I thought there'd be. I'd estimate 800 or so. And it doesn't look like they're selling the upper bowl.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/19/2023 08:15PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Chris '03 (104.28.132.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:14PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
I went to the Ticket-shafter site about an hour ago. There were a lot fewer seats available than I thought there'd be.

I assume the four schools get an allotment that are held back from general sale for at least a few days.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:17PM

Chris '03
Jeff Hopkins '82
I went to the Ticket-shafter site about an hour ago. There were a lot fewer seats available than I thought there'd be.

I assume the four schools get an allotment that are held back from general sale for at least a few days.

Probably. It looks like there are whole sections in the lower bowl that are blocked out. In fact, every other section in the lower bowl is shown as "no seats available"
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:28PM

360 miles Ithaca to Manchester NH for the NCAA Regional to play the defending national champ. 300 miles for us coming out of Metro NY (NJ).

Allentown or Bridgeport would've been fine. Manchester is a reach for Cornell fans unless they're well into New England (Westport and Greenwich don't count).

Jeff Schulman, Vermont athletic director and chair of the NCAA hockey committee (the guy on video with dry-cleaning hanging on the wall in the corner of the screen), said in-person attendance played some role in team placement, in which case Cornell might've been in Allentown else Bridgeport.

But we also came a little too close to not being in the tournament at all. So any region is good.


PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights, Mo.
• Providence Regional: Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence, R.I.
• Sioux Falls Regional: Denny Sanford Premier Center, Sioux Falls, S.D.
• Springfield Regional: MassMutual Center, Springfield, Mass.

• Frozen Four: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, Minn.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:29PM

they sell seats in blocks, teams are going to get like 1k or whatever and then turn them back in as well..

They really dont want to sell the upperdeck unless demand is shown because then they have to have people to control and work those areas.

it only holds 10k

just to compare the regionals last yr had 3-5k in Mass.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:29PM

of the #1s denver is the one having the most issues right now.. All you can ask for if you play well.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:32PM

In the interests of transparency, the NCAA ought (yeah, I know, transparency and NCAA two words apart) to note that some sections are blocked out for school allocations, if you don't see seats available, check back.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:33PM

And it always feels good to get a second crack at BU, should Cornell and BU prevail Thursday. It's do-able.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Chris '03 (104.28.55.---)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:41PM

billhoward
360 miles Ithaca to Manchester NH for the NCAA Regional to play the defending national champ. 300 miles for us coming out of Metro NY (NJ).

Allentown or Bridgeport would've been fine. Manchester is a reach for Cornell fans unless they're well into New England (Westport and Greenwich don't count).

Jeff Schulman, Vermont athletic director and chair of the NCAA hockey committee (the guy on video with dry-cleaning hanging on the wall in the corner of the screen), said in-person attendance played some role in team placement, in which case Cornell might've been in Allentown else Bridgeport.

But we also came a little too close to not being in the tournament at all. So any region is good.


PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights, Mo.
• Providence Regional: Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence, R.I.
• Sioux Falls Regional: Denny Sanford Premier Center, Sioux Falls, S.D.
• Springfield Regional: MassMutual Center, Springfield, Mass.

• Frozen Four: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, Minn.

Fairfield County here. It's a three hour drive to Manchester. I did it as a day trip when they played Lowell up there. It's not hard. Thursday afternoon is a bigger challenge than the location.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:42PM

billhoward

PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights

Maryland Heights, Missouri. It's a suburb of St.Louis.

The rink is tiny. According to anything I can find, it seats between 4000 and 4500.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-228-35.myvzw.com)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:53PM

billhoward
360 miles Ithaca to Manchester NH for the NCAA Regional to play the defending national champ. 300 miles for us coming out of Metro NY (NJ).

Allentown or Bridgeport would've been fine. Manchester is a reach for Cornell fans unless they're well into New England (Westport and Greenwich don't count).

Jeff Schulman, Vermont athletic director and chair of the NCAA hockey committee (the guy on video with dry-cleaning hanging on the wall in the corner of the screen), said in-person attendance played some role in team placement, in which case Cornell might've been in Allentown else Bridgeport.

But we also came a little too close to not being in the tournament at all. So any region is good.


PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights, Mo.
• Providence Regional: Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence, R.I.
• Sioux Falls Regional: Denny Sanford Premier Center, Sioux Falls, S.D.
• Springfield Regional: MassMutual Center, Springfield, Mass.

• Frozen Four: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, Minn.

Who do I have to bribe to get us placed in Sioux Falls?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 08:55PM

Dafatone
billhoward
360 miles Ithaca to Manchester NH for the NCAA Regional to play the defending national champ. 300 miles for us coming out of Metro NY (NJ).

Allentown or Bridgeport would've been fine. Manchester is a reach for Cornell fans unless they're well into New England (Westport and Greenwich don't count).

Jeff Schulman, Vermont athletic director and chair of the NCAA hockey committee (the guy on video with dry-cleaning hanging on the wall in the corner of the screen), said in-person attendance played some role in team placement, in which case Cornell might've been in Allentown else Bridgeport.

But we also came a little too close to not being in the tournament at all. So any region is good.


PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights, Mo.
• Providence Regional: Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence, R.I.
• Sioux Falls Regional: Denny Sanford Premier Center, Sioux Falls, S.D.
• Springfield Regional: MassMutual Center, Springfield, Mass.

• Frozen Four: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, Minn.

Who do I have to bribe to get us placed in Sioux Falls?

Definitely not the person I bribed to get us placed in Allentown the last five years.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Jackal307 (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 09:34PM

If anybody needs a place to crash we have a queen bed in our toy room in north shore that's up for grabs, it's about 30-40 min to manchester
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Robb (---.mycingular.net)
Date: March 19, 2023 10:58PM

Dafatone
billhoward
360 miles Ithaca to Manchester NH for the NCAA Regional to play the defending national champ. 300 miles for us coming out of Metro NY (NJ).

Allentown or Bridgeport would've been fine. Manchester is a reach for Cornell fans unless they're well into New England (Westport and Greenwich don't count).

Jeff Schulman, Vermont athletic director and chair of the NCAA hockey committee (the guy on video with dry-cleaning hanging on the wall in the corner of the screen), said in-person attendance played some role in team placement, in which case Cornell might've been in Allentown else Bridgeport.

But we also came a little too close to not being in the tournament at all. So any region is good.


PS 2024 regionals below. Maryland?

• Maryland Heights Regional: Centene Community Ice Center, Maryland Heights, Mo.
• Providence Regional: Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence, R.I.
• Sioux Falls Regional: Denny Sanford Premier Center, Sioux Falls, S.D.
• Springfield Regional: MassMutual Center, Springfield, Mass.

• Frozen Four: Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, Minn.

Who do I have to bribe to get us placed in Sioux Falls?
forget that - who do I have to bribe to get us to St. Paul?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: March 20, 2023 12:15AM

upprdeck
its the 2nd game at dinner time.. the loser of game 1 is leaving, the winner most are gonna go celebrate. how many is Denver bringing on a thursday. its at best 1/3 full.

I still remember the 2005 semifinal in Columbus, when DU and CC brought about 60 fans between them. uhoh

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 02:16AM

This is it.

 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals - stay (home) or go?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 06:23AM

Can't be. St. Cloud wins a game
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 06:50AM

Fun Ian Shane stats:

Last 28 days:

GAA: 0.79
Sv%: .959
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: 617BigRed (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 10:03AM

Who is going to be up in Manchester for the game on Thursday?
Would be nice to meet / sit with some forum regulars if any there...
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Todd R (---.ph.ph.cox.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 12:20PM

marty
Dunc
Also on ESPN+

Are you sure or should I upgrade my cable 4 days earlier than planned.

Edit:
I see it listed so I'll delay the "upgrade".


I watched the selection show late last night on demand on ESPN+, and I noticed that all the tournament games, including ours, is listed in the "live & upcoming" section on the ESPN+ app on my Apple TV (and on my app on iPhone). So, it looks like you may not need to upgrade your cable at all. Awesome for those of us on the other side of the country. Those of you within a 6 hour drive of Manchester are still expected to be there live.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.229.167.165.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 20, 2023 06:20PM

ice
This is it.

Sorry, I don't see Penn State getting by Michigan Tech.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 22, 2023 10:12AM

CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Weder (104.28.133.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 10:39AM

There will be a watch party at Lynah on Thursday:
[cornellbigredtickets.universitytickets.com]
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: March 22, 2023 12:31PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
ice
This is it.

Sorry, I don't see Penn State getting by Michigan Tech.

Michigan Tech vs Penn State is basically a battle for the soul of college hockey.

 
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JTW

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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 01:06PM

Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2023 01:07PM by BearLover.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 02:00PM

BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-228-35.myvzw.com)
Date: March 22, 2023 02:06PM

This is one of those "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills" moments.

We're 8th in college hockey in goals per game. We're a very, very, very good offense. We're 2nd in goals allowed per game, which is better than 8th, but we're still 8th in goals. Now, we are at the top of a pretty close pile in the rankings. We put up 3.41 per game, Harvard is 8th at 3.76. Another 0.35 below would put us at a tie with two other teams for 21st.

Regardless, we score a lot! I feel like we've struggled the most the last couple years with defensive-minded physical teams who outwork and outmuscle us in the creases. We skate well with the high-powered teams we've seen (Harvard two of the three games, Q all but one period, BU, UConn).

People keep saying that we're a low-offense all-defense team. The numbers and the eye test don't bear that out.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 02:54PM

adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 22, 2023 03:56PM

BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-228-35.myvzw.com)
Date: March 22, 2023 04:03PM

Beeeej
BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 04:06PM

Dafatone
Beeeej
BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?
It’s a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2023 04:07PM by BearLover.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 04:46PM

BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

Denver has 4 2nd Rounders - but as I said, I was talking only about the forwards - and only 2 of those are forwards - one is a freshman who is not a big-time contributor. The other is Tristan Broz, a transfer from Minnesota who is good, but essentially a 3rd liner. Their stud forwards are not of the NHL prospect stud variety. They are however very dangerous. Carter Mazur has one of the best shots in college hockey. Their top scorer is a 7th round pick. Mazur is a 3rd rounder. Jake Devine is a 7th rounder. Dornbach is undrafted. Compare this to Minnesota and Michigan and even BU.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 04:48PM

BearLover
It’s a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

That's what I thought in 2009. And 2012 :(
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2023 05:54PM by adamw.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 22, 2023 04:52PM

adamw
Beeeej
It’s a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

That's what I thought in 2009. And 2012 :(

Not that I'm worried about it showing up in court proceedings or something, but please don't quote me as having posted someone else's words.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 05:18PM

Denver -220
Cornell +180

Those are the current odds.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 05:55PM

Beeeej
Not that I'm worried about it showing up in court proceedings or something, but please don't quote me as having posted someone else's words.

not sure how that happened - fixed my post
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 06:22PM

It's a single game, anything can happen.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Iceberg (172.58.27.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 08:49PM

Is there an international feed for the regionals?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 09:24PM

We need the PP to get some chances and do some scoring. Our lack of getting penalties is the big issue in all 3 games vs harvard.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: cu155 (192.119.10.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 09:50PM

Listed as streaming on ESPNNews (not clear to me if this is cable ESPN or works under ESPN+).

If ESPN+ then solution would be ESPN+ subscription or Disney+ bundle that includes ESPN+ and Hulu and then using a VPN.

If ESPN then solution would be Hulu subscription adding 'Live TV' package to get ESPN unless you have ESPN via a cable provider in the US that allows you to log in and stream. Will still need a VPN to show your IP address as in the US.

Being based in China I typically pay for and use a VPN called Astrill as it has the lowest latency/best server flexibility. In other countries a lot of people use ExpressVPN.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: LGR14 (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2023 10:22PM

cu155
Listed as streaming on ESPNNews (not clear to me if this is cable ESPN or works under ESPN+).

If ESPN+ then solution would be ESPN+ subscription or Disney+ bundle that includes ESPN+ and Hulu and then using a VPN.

If ESPN then solution would be Hulu subscription adding 'Live TV' package to get ESPN unless you have ESPN via a cable provider in the US that allows you to log in and stream. Will still need a VPN to show your IP address as in the US.

Being based in China I typically pay for and use a VPN called Astrill as it has the lowest latency/best server flexibility. In other countries a lot of people use ExpressVPN.

All games are in ESPN+. No VPN required.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: cu155 (192.119.10.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 11:02PM

Excellent on ESPN+

Brought up VPN as they were asking for an international feed so was assuming they might be outside of the US. ESPN+ is region locked (or maybe just blocked) at least for China so VPN is the only way to access even when paying for the service.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Iceberg (45.229.41.---)
Date: March 22, 2023 11:04PM

cu155
Excellent on ESPN+

Brought up VPN as they were asking for an international feed so was assuming they might be outside of the US. ESPN+ is region locked (or maybe just blocked) at least for China so VPN is the only way to access even when paying for the service.

Yeah, that's why I asked. I happen to be out of the US right now and ESPN+ is blocked. I guess I'll pick one of the VPN's
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: David Harding (---.dhcp.fnal.gov)
Date: March 22, 2023 11:32PM

BearLover

It’s a hockey game. We have a chance of beating Denver. We are clear underdogs, but we have a chance. Maybe 2:1 odds? If we beat Denver, then the hardest part is over.

Amen. I wasn't terrifically impressed with Denver when I watched Omaha (currently #18) beat them 3-0 in Denver. The next night Denver won 6-3.

On the other hand, drop the home game against Union from Cornell's record and our goals per game tumbles.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: abmarks (---.global1.cust.sover.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 12:36AM

Dafatone
Beeeej
BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?

Sos though
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 08:58AM

I still think its interesting that ESPN just doesnt care and lets people use VPN to bypass the restrictions they have in place. Great for people trying to get around the rules I guess.. Too bad the gambling sites are not as lax.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-228-35.myvzw.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:04AM

abmarks
Dafatone
Beeeej
BearLover
adamw
BearLover
Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Based on what I’ve read about its defensive dominance, Denver sounds like what a Schafer team would look like if it had the talent level of Harvard but maintained the current Cornell systems.

Since I see them plenty - this is fairly accurate. 99.7% accurate if you will.

But seriously folks ... Denver rarely has the 1st and 2nd round type of talent that Michigan, Minnesota and even Harvard has. At least not in their forward group. But they have a ton of next-tier talent, and are very solid up and down the lineup in every way. And their coaching staff is fantastic.

This is what makes it a very tough matchup for Cornell. In some ways, a team like Michigan would be easier, since you can play their opposite style and --- possibly --- on a good day, shut them down, while they leave you with chances. I don't expect Denver to make those kinds of mistakes and leave those kinds of openings. I actually give Harvard a ton of credit for what they did in the semis vs. Cornell, because they played in ways they haven't always proven they can do in the past. This is what Denver does regularly, however.
Not Michigan or Minnesota level, but looking at Denver’s roster on paper, they are loaded. They have 12 draft picks including four second round picks. Their top four scorers from last year’s national championship team (each of the four a draft pick) all graduated or signed pro deals, yet they reloaded this season with more elite talent. Only one player in their top seven scorers this season isn’t a draft pick: Casey Dornbach, grad transfer from Harvard.

You guys aren't giving me fun, happy "We have a real shot at emerging from this Regional" vibes at the moment.

We're 5th in the nation in scoring differential per game.

Of course, our regional has the 3rd, 6th, and 8th best teams.

But someone's gotta do it. Why not us?

Sos though

Ours is weakest of the four. But none are THAT great. Kinda looks like strength of schedule this year is through the roof for the big10 and weak for everyone else.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:07AM

LGR14
cu155
Listed as streaming on ESPNNews (not clear to me if this is cable ESPN or works under ESPN+).

If ESPN+ then solution would be ESPN+ subscription or Disney+ bundle that includes ESPN+ and Hulu and then using a VPN.

If ESPN then solution would be Hulu subscription adding 'Live TV' package to get ESPN unless you have ESPN via a cable provider in the US that allows you to log in and stream. Will still need a VPN to show your IP address as in the US.

Being based in China I typically pay for and use a VPN called Astrill as it has the lowest latency/best server flexibility. In other countries a lot of people use ExpressVPN.

All games are in ESPN+. No VPN required.

I was surprised that to upgrade my Spectrum cable I paid $12 per month (so I can record the games). I think it was over $30 last year.

Though I am worried my current package will now be gone as grandfather rights to what I had may be voided when I remove the $12 package.

Does anyone under 70 still have cable?
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: cu155 (192.119.10.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:59AM

Unfortunately, it's use a VPN or forgo watching the game. I pay for a subscription to ESPN+ so don't feel too horrible about accessing the platform from outside the US.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 10:25AM

I understand using the VPN.. Just surprised ESPN allows it because its clear violation of the contract rights they have to broadcast and its the reason they dont allow it, that VPN is getting around. Its pretty simple for them to not allow it.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 23, 2023 10:46AM

More from DU's coach on the matchup from a CHN profile on them:

"[Cornell head coach] Mike Schafer has been doing an excellent job for a number of years," Carle said, learning that Schafer was a senior for the Big Red in 1986 the last time the two teams played in the NCAA tourney. "For me, they have good special teams. Their puck pressure game is very good. Neutral zone, I think that's he biggest challenge, how do you get the puck from below your goal line to below their goal line, and get sustained offensive zone pressure. They are very disciplined within their game plan."
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 11:27AM

It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 11:46AM

adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.

Spot on. The decline in local journalism is one of the sadder realities of the past 2 decades. Our local paper, now owned by Gannett, is a joke. I subscribe to the digital version, but there's hardly any local news coverage anymore. As for the Sun, it's unfortunate that we don't have almost daily coverage of the major sports.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 11:59AM

scoop85
adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.

Spot on. The decline in local journalism is one of the sadder realities of the past 2 decades. Our local paper, now owned by Gannett, is a joke. I subscribe to the digital version, but there's hardly any local news coverage anymore. As for the Sun, it's unfortunate that we don't have almost daily coverage of the major sports.

Anything Gannett is a joke!! In our area (central NY), they take over local newspapers & leave very little local presence of staff. There is almost NO truly reporting happening. They wait for news releases from agencies and print little else. The newspapers are even printed in other cities. I subscribe to the Elmira rag... For quite some time it was printed in Johnson City, NY... That presence has been moved to some unknown (to me) place. An awful state.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: nshapiro (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 12:03PM

scoop85
adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.

Spot on. The decline in local journalism is one of the sadder realities of the past 2 decades. Our local paper, now owned by Gannett, is a joke. I subscribe to the digital version, but there's hardly any local news coverage anymore. As for the Sun, it's unfortunate that we don't have almost daily coverage of the major sports.

An additional problem is that even when a local newspaper does great reporting (eg. North Shore Leader and George Santos), NOBODY NOTICES.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 12:12PM

adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.
Are you able to paraphrase what he said? (Maybe it goes against journalistic code to not be providing direct quotes, though.) Thanks.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Weder (136.226.52.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 12:25PM

nshapiro
scoop85
adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.

Spot on. The decline in local journalism is one of the sadder realities of the past 2 decades. Our local paper, now owned by Gannett, is a joke. I subscribe to the digital version, but there's hardly any local news coverage anymore. As for the Sun, it's unfortunate that we don't have almost daily coverage of the major sports.

An additional problem is that even when a local newspaper does great reporting (eg. North Shore Leader and George Santos), NOBODY NOTICES.

The Ithaca Voice, which usually doesn't do much at all with sports, had a brief preview earlier this week and it was ... not great.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 12:41PM

adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.

The Rochester D&C almost never mentions Cornell sports, although they cover Syracuse. They did make an exception for Yianni, from nearby Hilton. I repeatedly emailed them about All-American goalie Lindsey Browning from Penfield, but never a mention!
.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 01:05PM

The lack of local sports coverage is really what helped the local papers decline,

For so many years you could find stories of local teams/players and often pages of stories..

Now you cant even easily find out if your local HS team wins a game or find a team schedule
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Pghas (---.static.optonline.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 01:35PM

I read the Daily Sun's coverage and they had plenty of quotes from Coach Schaefer - in fact that was the only place I found any quotes after the Harvard loss or for today's game, which I hope is not the last one of the year.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 01:43PM

Pghas
I read the Daily Sun's coverage and they had plenty of quotes from Coach Schaefer - in fact that was the only place I found any quotes after the Harvard loss or for today's game, which I hope is not the last one of the year.

No story on yesterday's news conference. I know no one from the Sun, Journal (or us) were there.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 01:49PM

BearLover
adamw
It's too bad the Cornell Sun and Ithaca Journal both have non-existent daily coverage of the hockey team anymore ... because Mike Schafer made a lot of interesting remarks at yesterday's press conference. Unfortunately we weren't able to be there either until today. (it's not just the Sun and IJ, local newspaper coverage is non-existent, student and "pro," all over the country except in scant places these days. It's extremely sad.
Are you able to paraphrase what he said? (Maybe it goes against journalistic code to not be providing direct quotes, though.) Thanks.

Oh it's fine to put the quotes here - I just was rushing before.


We went into the Harvard game; they might have some of the best forwards
in the country and we went into that game and we had two different weird games against them. One where it
was kind of up and down the ice, one game where we were on the road and if it was a COVID year we probably would have all tested positive that point in time at Harvard. We knew we had to control the top line if
they had any success. You asked me one thing that I would change is that probably as a coach I made them
too hesitant and fear them too much and respect them too much, which you know over-coached them basically. We shut them down, but we didn’t play our game. I think that’s a coaching error. In hindsight it’s always
great, we had a great game plan, and we followed the game plan, 0-0 game we went into overtime, but we
lost. The loss left a bitter taste because I didn’t think we played our kind of hockey; I didn’t think we were as
aggressive as we should have been. I didn’t think we played with enough pace in the game, we didn’t go for
it. You know one thing that I hate is, and that’s why I said it was probably a mistake, is that I don’t like playing defensive and sitting there and hoping so we will go for it and I think going into the game we will be a lot
more aggressive, a lot more physical in this course of the game and go after it rather than you know just say
above and control them. So hopefully a different kind of game plan

He is spot on. Which sounds stupid for me to say, since I always admit to knowing next to nothing about Xs and Os ... but I mean I had the same exact impression watching the game, so it was interesting to hear these comments from Coach, and kudos to him for saying it. Cornell had a perfect plan to stop Harvard, but you could tell that Mitchell/Malinski/et al were very passive defensively. Unlike common misconceptions about Cornell, they are not known for sitting back. The D pinch a lot, and aggressively. And they didn't even attempt it against Harvard.

Who knows if this will lead to a Cornell win today - obviously you are taking a risk by being more aggressive - but rather go down guns blazing playing your way, than not putting out your best effort. Strategically there's probably a middle ground, and you also have to just trust your players at some point.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 23, 2023 02:23PM

adamw
... but I mean I had the same exact impression watching the game, so it was interesting to hear these comments from Coach, and kudos to him for saying it. Cornell had a perfect plan to stop Harvard, but you could tell that Mitchell/Malinski/et al were very passive defensively. Unlike common misconceptions about Cornell, they are not known for sitting back. The D pinch a lot, and aggressively. And they didn't even attempt it against Harvard.

Exactly the same impression I had during the Harvard game: I was shocked at how passive we were the entire game, with barely any extended possession time in Harvard's zone. Harvard's defensive effort definitely seemed much stronger than in the previous two regular season games, but we seemed totally content to just hang on for dear life at 0-0 and then maybe try to get something going in OT (but we never quite got there). It reminded me of our teams from the early and mid 2010's, where if we had a lead or a tie going into the third, they would go into their defensive "shell" and just make like they were killing penalties for the rest of the game.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 03:02PM

sah67
adamw
... but I mean I had the same exact impression watching the game, so it was interesting to hear these comments from Coach, and kudos to him for saying it. Cornell had a perfect plan to stop Harvard, but you could tell that Mitchell/Malinski/et al were very passive defensively. Unlike common misconceptions about Cornell, they are not known for sitting back. The D pinch a lot, and aggressively. And they didn't even attempt it against Harvard.

Exactly the same impression I had during the Harvard game: I was shocked at how passive we were the entire game, with barely any extended possession time in Harvard's zone. Harvard's defensive effort definitely seemed much stronger than in the previous two regular season games, but we seemed totally content to just hang on for dear life at 0-0 and then maybe try to get something going in OT (but we never quite got there). It reminded me of our teams from the early and mid 2010's, where if we had a lead or a tie going into the third, they would go into their defensive "shell" and just make like they were killing penalties for the rest of the game.
I agree with the general premise that Cornell was not taking risks on offense and therefore never getting set up in the o-zone to possess and cycle the puck. With that said—while Cornell’s chances were extremely limited, they similarly gave up almost zero chances to Harvard. Not only did Harvard have almost no good scoring chances the entire game, but Harvard had almost no sustained possession or pressure either. So I wouldn’t say the game looked like our shells from the mid-2010s where we’d be pinned in our zone for long periods of time. Also, we don’t know what the counterfactual looks like—if Cornell presses more, maybe Harvard pots an early goal and then Cornell has to take more risks to come from behind and we end up losing 4-1. As it happened, the game turned into a slog and Cornell got a PP at the end to win it. It’s not like the game wasn’t close. Remember, Harvard is better than us overall, and particularly on the PP and in transition (yes, I know technically Cornell has better PP numbers, but there is no way we are better than Farrell/Coronato/Lafferiere on the PP). So we are at a disadvantage in a “normal” hockey game. Turning it into a defensive slog wasn’t clearly wrong to me.

As I say above, notwithstanding the above I agree with you guys and Schafer that Cornell was too tentative overall. But other than D-men jumping into the play a little more (and forwards covering for them), I wouldn’t have changed much about the strategy.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 03:11PM

Also, to add to the above, remember, Cornell got one PP the whole game. I don’t think cutting down on the chances 5x5 and trying to score on the PP was a bad strategy. As it turned out, that didn’t work because we only got one PP. The counterargument, which Schafer notes, is that without sustained possession it’s hard to draw penalties.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: March 23, 2023 03:41PM

For anyone not watching/following live stats: BU is up 4-1 on WMU at the end of the 2nd. A lot of the big guns for BU are on the board already (Brown, Skoog and both Hutsons).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2023 03:43PM by sah67.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 04:27PM

BU wins 5-1.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: RichH (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:08PM

Beeeej
CHN's Manchester Regional preview:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Love this part:


"All four teams are going to go in there and think they’re going to win this thing,” Schafer said. “The pressure is on the one seed. Everyone’s expecting them to win. They didn’t even mention us on ESPN. They assumed that BU and Denver were going to play the next night.”

He's right, we got mentioned in a little more than 3 sentences in the Selection Show. I LOVE BEING OVERLOOKED.

The problem for the QF is that BU has already played us and had to make an amazing comeback. They know us too well and won't be making the same mistakes in the January game. I only hope CU uses any residual anger/frustration about letting that game slip out of our hands.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:19PM

To set the mood for Minnesota-Canisius:

[www.youtube.com]

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:21PM

jtwcornell91
To set the mood for Minnesota-Canisius:

[www.youtube.com]

I absolutely, never, ever get tired of this.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Scersk '97 (38.81.106.---)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:28PM

This is just, wow:

Alaska coach Erik Largen
"It's weird just watching all the games. Obviously you're watching the probabilities, and you're dropping every week. Even up to the last day you still feel pretty good with the two games you need to have happen. And good for Coach (Don) Vaughan and Colgate, but unfortunate for us, right? It's kinda one of those things — every time there's a sad story, there's a really good one too. We were just on the short end of it."

I was happy Colgate took that championship away from Harvard, but I was pretty disappointed it didn't work out for Alaska. They were really quite good when they came to visit last year, and I hope they can keep making a go of it and that, someday soon, we'll finally get another visit to the tournament from our far-flung compatriots to the northwest.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2023 09:30PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 09:56PM

Canisius up 2-1 on an incredibly pretty goal

 
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-228-35.myvzw.com)
Date: March 23, 2023 10:01PM

Scersk '97
This is just, wow:

Alaska coach Erik Largen
"It's weird just watching all the games. Obviously you're watching the probabilities, and you're dropping every week. Even up to the last day you still feel pretty good with the two games you need to have happen. And good for Coach (Don) Vaughan and Colgate, but unfortunate for us, right? It's kinda one of those things — every time there's a sad story, there's a really good one too. We were just on the short end of it."

I was happy Colgate took that championship away from Harvard, but I was pretty disappointed it didn't work out for Alaska. They were really quite good when they came to visit last year, and I hope they can keep making a go of it and that, someday soon, we'll finally get another visit to the tournament from our far-flung compatriots to the northwest.

According to CHN's Krach rankings, Alaska had a slightly tougher schedule than we did. They also had a slightly better record.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2023 11:29PM

ugarte
Canisius up 2-1 on an incredibly pretty goal
All Gophers after that; 9-2 Minnesota, final. They face St. Cloud State on Saturday evening.

 
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Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 24, 2023 12:21AM

kingpin248
ugarte
Canisius up 2-1 on an incredibly pretty goal
All Gophers after that; 9-2 Minnesota, final. They face St. Cloud State on Saturday evening.
stopped watching at 3-2. the writing was already on the wall.

 
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: RichH (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: March 24, 2023 01:05AM

billhoward
upprdeck
... its at best 1/3 full.
You're an optimist.

Announced attendance: 3631 / 9852 = 36.8%

Granted, not everyone was in there for each game.

The arena management and local businesses must be thrilled at the results from day 1. Best possible outcome for Saturday attendance. Should easily surpass half-full (true optimism) on Saturday, which is quite an achievement in this era of regionals.

Imagine Western Michigan vs Denver in New Hampshire.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: RichH (---.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com)
Date: March 24, 2023 01:07AM

ice
This is it.

So far, so good.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 24, 2023 08:34AM

The tradition lives on! Despite the adjustment of regional schedules to even out the games, USCHO Cafe goes down on the second day of the NC$$s for the 7th straight year.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2023 08:35AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: March 24, 2023 01:24PM

ugarte
Fargo:
Minnesota
Canisius
---
St. Cloud
Minnesota State

Bridgeport:
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
---
Harvard
Ohio State

I lived just outside of Cleveland for 26 years, but never rooted for TOSU in anything — until today!
.
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 24, 2023 01:29PM

George64
ugarte
Fargo:
Minnesota
Canisius
---
St. Cloud
Minnesota State

Bridgeport:
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
---
Harvard
Ohio State

I lived just outside of Cleveland for 26 years, but never rooted for TOSU in anything — until today!
.
I’m rolling with tOSU, Merrimack, and Michigan today! Let’s go boys!
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: RichH (104.28.55.---)
Date: March 24, 2023 01:58PM

George64
ugarte
Fargo:
Minnesota
Canisius
---
St. Cloud
Minnesota State

Bridgeport:
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
---
Harvard
Ohio State

I lived just outside of Cleveland for 26 years, but never rooted for TOSU in anything — until today!
.

I’ve never rooted for a bomb to hit Bridgeport before today. (Sorry, Merrimack.)
 
Re: 2023 NCAA Tournament: Regionals
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 24, 2023 02:07PM

RichH
George64
ugarte
Fargo:
Minnesota
Canisius
---
St. Cloud
Minnesota State

Bridgeport:
Quinnipiac
Merrimack
---
Harvard
Ohio State

I lived just outside of Cleveland for 26 years, but never rooted for TOSU in anything — until today!
.

I’ve never rooted for a bomb to hit Bridgeport before today. (Sorry, Merrimack.)
Right. Sorry, Jim, but I hope Colgate steals another one.

 
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