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Bracketology 2023

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Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 09, 2023 04:56PM

Dafatone
The best proposal for fixing basketball I've seen is to play to a score. Play 35 minutes, then if the score is Team 1 X, Team 2 Y (assume X > Y), first team to X+10 wins.
That's awesome. And potentially endless which would destroy TV, so doubly great.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 09, 2023 04:57PM

Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
You could fix basketball by giving extra foul shots for multiple fouls within a certain interval. Also, basketball should get one time out per half, period.
Just give the fouled team the option of taking the ball again. The fouls will stop.
Just end foul shooting. Fouled teams gets one point and the ball back.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 09, 2023 05:49PM

they tried the foul thing and it didnt work.. you need fouls and the ball before it becomes a thing..

I am more in the after X fouls they all become 3 shot fouls
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: RichH (104.28.133.---)
Date: March 09, 2023 06:47PM

upprdeck
But if you are going to use scores, changing from a 75-65 game to an 82-77 game is vastly different than being up 2-0 and the goalie us pulled and winning 4-0..

AND ANOTHER THING

Entirely too much scoring. Too many times a team can score 119 points or more and lose because the last shot either goes in or rims out as time expired, rendering most early-game strategy kind of meaningless. Margin of victory is 0.5% of the total points scored. Give me a game that’s harder to score every 10 seconds and where the concept of defense can’t be beaten by pushing the “Steph Curry” cheat code.

A big draw is how often basketball comes down to buzzer beaters. Why waste my time if I’m just going to watch a coin flip happen at the end? (Cough cough hockey shootouts)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2023 06:49PM by RichH.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 09, 2023 07:20PM

i guess we see at 7am if they have a ticket system for the games working..
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: CU77 (---.wireless.ucsb.edu)
Date: March 09, 2023 07:55PM

upprdeck
But if you are going to use scores, changing from a 75-65 game to an 82-77 game is vastly different than being up 2-0 and the goalie us pulled and winning 4-0..
Two ENGs is pretty rare. And anyway this is just something you have to live with in trying to do rankings in a low-scoring sport. Of course further stats could be used as well. Here, for example, is a pretty fancy pro-hockey ranking model I found in a quick google search: [moneypuck.com]

But these days, the best method is probably just to throw ten years of data into a machine-learning model.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2023 11:23PM by CU77.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.241.---)
Date: March 10, 2023 12:27AM

Surely someone must be pumping huge amounts of sports data into AI/machine learning pattern finding algorithms and making bank using betting platforms?

It looks like ChatGPT is not the answer (and likely has also been deliberately neutered for betting-related questions):

Who is more likely to win the upcoming NCAA Men's Ice Hockey playoff series between Cornell and Clarkson?

As an AI language model, I cannot predict the outcome of sporting events with certainty. However, I can provide you with some information about both teams to help you make an informed prediction.

Cornell and Clarkson are both strong teams in NCAA Men's Ice Hockey, and both have had successful seasons so far. Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2, while Clarkson finished with a record of 13-6-1.

Cornell is known for having a strong defense, as they have allowed the fewest goals per game in the NCAA this season. They also have a potent offense, as they have scored the second-most goals per game in the NCAA. Clarkson, on the other hand, has a more balanced approach, with a solid defense and offense.

Based on these factors, it's difficult to determine which team is more likely to win the playoff series between Cornell and Clarkson. It will likely be a closely contested matchup, and the outcome may come down to which team performs better on the day of the game.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: CU77 (---.sb.sd.cox.net)
Date: March 10, 2023 01:52AM

Roy 82
ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 10, 2023 08:31AM

that 60 mins piece didnt help give you the wamt fuzzies on the chat engine.

I mean if its not vetting things, and these days its hard to really know whats true, all it would take is an effort by someone to post inaccurate information and off the chat api would go propagating it.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: ugarte (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2023 12:01PM

CU77
Roy 82
ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...
the best feature of chatGPT is that it is a stream of bullshit and constantly spews out false information to justify it's premises. it could be president one day.

 
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: March 10, 2023 01:36PM

ugarte
CU77
Roy 82
ChatGPT: Cornell finished the regular season with a record of 15-2-2
Um ...
the best feature of chatGPT is that it is a stream of bullshit and constantly spews out false information to justify it's premises. it could be president one day.
It's the manifestation of "truthiness."
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: French Rage (136.226.49.---)
Date: March 10, 2023 03:39PM

Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
You could fix basketball by giving extra foul shots for multiple fouls within a certain interval. Also, basketball should get one time out per half, period.
Just give the fouled team the option of taking the ball again. The fouls will stop.

Allow the fouled team to use two balls for the next possession.

 
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Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.net.cia.gov)
Date: March 10, 2023 03:49PM

French Rage
Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
You could fix basketball by giving extra foul shots for multiple fouls within a certain interval. Also, basketball should get one time out per half, period.
Just give the fouled team the option of taking the ball again. The fouls will stop.

Allow the fouled team to use two balls for the next possession.
If you can dodge a wrench
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 10, 2023 06:49PM

HE Merrimack is on the bubble.. If BU doesnt win out, HE could go from 1 team to 3 in a heartbeat. Merrimack/NE are the 2 on the cusp. if BU loses they will get 2 in. Prov/BC winning this weekend helps more I think than letting Merrimack and NE winning does.

Is it in Cornells best interest to have Mich Tech and Minn St get to the finals and make sure no 3rd team sneaks in from the CCHA? In a perfect world Mich tech runs the table and Minn st loses to Ferris tomorrow. That still not create a buffer for Cornell. Its probably better for Minn St to just win.

B10 we want Minn to beat Mich St.


NCHC if NDak can beat Omaha again that would be nice.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2023 10:10PM

We jumped back to 12.
10. Western Michigan
11. Michigan Tech
12. Cornell
13. Alaska-Fairbanks
14. Minnesota-Mankato
15. Merrimack
16. Michigan State
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 11, 2023 12:19AM

Even though Cornell has a loss to give in the series vs. Clarkson, tomorrow night looks to me like the big one as far as the NCAA is concerned. Harvard is currently 6th in the PWR. If Cornell wins tomorrow, I think they will be in pretty solid shape for an at-large bid even if they lose to Harvard in Lake Placid.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 11, 2023 08:47AM

It comes down to bid stealers at that pt. A loss to harvard would knock them back down a small bit.

But if Minn wins tonight that really only leaves a couple chances for a bid steal to happen.

After tonight we know a lot more.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 13, 2023 09:14AM

So looking at the probability matrix it has Minn st. 96% and NMich 33%.

If NMich wins, Minn state falls to 15 and would be out and thats if chalk wins and nothing else happens and they are still behind Alaska.

Given its really a who wins thing its probably 70/30 Minn St gets in?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2023 06:53PM by upprdeck.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: adamw (---.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
Date: March 13, 2023 06:10PM

upprdeck
So looking at the probability matrix it has Minn st. 9% and NMich 33%.

If NMich wins, Minn state falls to 15 and would be out and thats if chalk wins and nothing else happens and they are still behind Alaska.

Given its really a who wins thing its probably 70/30 Minn St gets in?

Might as well quote The Matrix - which says 72% ... however, here is where it doesn't account for the fact that NMU is hot. On the other hand, it also doesn't account for it being at Mankato.
 
Re: Bracketology 2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 13, 2023 06:53PM

well someone noticed because Minn state just dropped to 72%
 
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