2023-24 MEN'S SCHEDULE

As some of you know, and others may have surmised by my lack of posting, last year was not my best. What's done is behind me and I hope this will be a better year.

Anyway here's what I have from the ECAC schedule. No exhibitions, OOC, Colgate or MSG are set yet.

Note game times are 7PM EST unless otherwise noted.

The NCAA Regionals are not listed, but weekend should be correct.

I did a copy and paste from this year's, so might have some mistakes in transition.

As in the past, if you have info about errors or additions, post it and I’ll update this.

Attached is the ECAC schedule, minus the traveling partners.

I'll do the Women's schedule later.

Cornell 2023-24 Men's Schedule

Oct ? Red/White
Oct ? (Ex)
Oct ? (Ex)
Fri Oct 27 OOC?
Sat Oct 28 OOC?
Fri Nov 3 @ Yale
Sat Nov 4 @ Brown
Fri Nov 10 Dartmouth
Sat Nov 11 Harvard
Fri Nov 17 @ Quinnipiac
Sat Nov 18 @ Princeton
Sat Nov 25 ? @ MSG 8:00
Fri Dec 1 OOC?, Colgate?
Sat Dec 2 OOC?, Colgate?

Fri Jan 5 Off?, OOC?, Colgate?
Sat Jan 6 Off?, OOC?, Colgate?
Fri Jan 12 ???
Sat Jan 13 ???
Fri Jan 19 Princeton
Sat Jan 20 Quinnipiac
Fri Jan 26 @ Harvard
Sat Jan 27 @ Dartmouth
Fri Feb 2 SLU
Sat Feb 3 Clarkson
Fri Feb 9 @ RPI
Sat Feb 10 @ Union
Fri Feb 16 Brown
Sat Feb 17 Yale
Fri Feb 23 @ Clarkson
Sat Feb 24 @ SLU
Fri Mar 1 Union
Sat Mar 2 RPI

Fri-Sun Mar 8-10 ECAC Prelims Depending Single or Best 2 of 3
Fri-Sun Mar 15-17 ECAC Quarters
Fri Mar 22 ECAC Semis @ Lake Placid
Sat Mar 23 ECAC Finals @ Lake Placid

Thu-Sun Mar 28-31 Regionals

Thu Apr 11 NCAA Semis @ Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, MN
Sat Apr 13 NCAA Finals @ Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, MN

All the best to you, Jim.

Sorry to read this, Jim. You have Donna's and my best wishes in every way.

We all appreciate what you do for this hockey community, Jim. Thank you, be well.

When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

I doubt we’ll go to both AIC & SHU - at most one of them.

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

Last year Cornell released the schedule in late July.

Home and home pairs that are "owed":

vs Minn-Duluth (@ in 2023)
@ AIC (vs in 2023)
@ UAF (vs in 2022)
vs NoDak (@ in 2022)
vs Miami (@ in 2018)

scoop85

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

I doubt we’ll go to both AIC & SHU - at most one of them.

Selfishly, I would love to see them come to SHU's new building sometime. But when's the last time Schafer agreed to a road game with an AHA team? RIT? Did they ever visit Niagara?

Trotsky
Home and home pairs that are "owed":

vs Minn-Duluth (@ in 2023)
@ AIC (vs in 2023)
@ UAF (vs in 2022)
vs NoDak (@ in 2022)
vs Miami (@ in 2018)

I'm pretty sure Miami was at Lynah the season before.


I'd expect Duluth to be at Lynah next season and then BU at MSG along with the holiday tournament games at Lake Placid. UND doesn't play at Lynah until 2024-25 as mentioned elsewhere

Iceberg
I'm pretty sure Miami was at Lynah the season before.

You are right, thanks.

Chris '03

scoop85

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

I doubt we’ll go to both AIC & SHU - at most one of them.

Selfishly, I would love to see them come to SHU's new building sometime. But when's the last time Schafer agreed to a road game with an AHA team? RIT? Did they ever visit Niagara?

Schafer pretty much requires a home-and-home when scheduling OOC games in order to make deals with the schools "bigger" than Cornell, so I highly doubt he isn't willing to give on them for the "smaller" ones.

Beeeej

Chris '03

scoop85

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

I doubt we’ll go to both AIC & SHU - at most one of them.

Selfishly, I would love to see them come to SHU's new building sometime. But when's the last time Schafer agreed to a road game with an AHA team? RIT? Did they ever visit Niagara?

Schafer pretty much requires a home-and-home when scheduling OOC games in order to make deals with the schools "bigger" than Cornell, so I highly doubt he isn't willing to give on them for the "smaller" ones.

I looked it up (thanks Greg for making it relatively easy). Since 1996, games for MAAC/AHA teams, it looks like:
Army: 1 road, 3 home
Canisius: 2 home
Mercyhurst: 2 home
Quinnipiac: 1 home
RIT: 1 road, 3 home
Niagara: 2 neutral, 3 road, 12 home

Most recent was 2015.

Beeeej

Chris '03

scoop85

617BigRed
When does the full official schedule for next season usually come out?

Any rumors on what the OOC games will be, assume return games for AIC & SHU?

I doubt we’ll go to both AIC & SHU - at most one of them.

Selfishly, I would love to see them come to SHU's new building sometime. But when's the last time Schafer agreed to a road game with an AHA team? RIT? Did they ever visit Niagara?

Schafer pretty much requires a home-and-home when scheduling OOC games in order to make deals with the schools "bigger" than Cornell, so I highly doubt he isn't willing to give on them for the "smaller" ones.

not to slam mike schafer as an individual but this principle of doing unto others is not a particularly universal one in deed as much as it is in word

Not sure what this means but this is pretty normal practice for many of the non power teams.

We dont go home and homes with the canadian schools either.

And its also a function of money.. The schools may make more coming here and playing than they do playing at home for all we know.

upprdeck
The schools may make more coming here and playing than they do playing at home for all we know.

How?

I don't think they get a piece of the gate and there are no broadcast rights (or what there are are league, and meager).

Unless we literally pay teams to come to Lynah, I can't see how any of them gross dollar one.

Hosting a game costs money too.. maybe we pay for something, I dont know how college hockey does it.

Just bball and fball do it for money maybe?

10/27, 10/28 UMD in Ithaca [umdbulldogs.com]

Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Trotsky
Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Those coming from the current coach, Scott Sandelin, in 2011, 2018, 2019. Plus, since 2011, an additional FF semifinal loss and title game loss.

UMD plays at Minnesota the following week. Maybe they look past us?

billhoward

Trotsky
Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Those coming from the current coach, Scott Sandelin, in 2011, 2018, 2019. Plus, since 2011, an additional FF semifinal loss and title game loss.

They were also on pace to be a 1-seed in 2020 and go for the three-peat when the season got cancelled.

BearLover

billhoward

Trotsky
Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Those coming from the current coach, Scott Sandelin, in 2011, 2018, 2019. Plus, since 2011, an additional FF semifinal loss and title game loss.

They were also on pace to be a 1-seed in 2020 and go for the three-peat when the season got cancelled.

When the 1994 MLB season got cut short due to a strike, Sports Illustrated did a mock-up of the postseason that wasn't, including a magazine cover of the Cubs-Red Sox World Series. (It was funnier at the time since both clubs had decades-long droughts going.) Maybe CHN should do a mockup homepage for 2020 with a Cornell-UMD national championship game. (Although to complete the analogy we'd need Clarkson winning the title.)

jtwcornell91

BearLover

billhoward

Trotsky
Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Those coming from the current coach, Scott Sandelin, in 2011, 2018, 2019. Plus, since 2011, an additional FF semifinal loss and title game loss.

They were also on pace to be a 1-seed in 2020 and go for the three-peat when the season got cancelled.

When the 1994 MLB season got cut short due to a strike, Sports Illustrated did a mock-up of the postseason that wasn't, including a magazine cover of the Cubs-Red Sox World Series. (It was funnier at the time since both clubs had decades-long droughts going.) Maybe CHN should do a mockup homepage for 2020 with a Cornell-UMD national championship game. (Although to complete the analogy we'd need Clarkson winning the title.)

At the time of the stoppage, North Dakota was #1 in PWR, Cornell #1 in the polls, with the conference tournaments coming up. There were murmurs once everything was officially cancelled that they should raise a banner in the Ralph.

Not sure if this has been posted but....

A USCHO post indicated Cornell will be playing in a 4-team tourney in Lake Placid over Chrsitmas with UMass, Clarkson and Arizona State.

Mark
Not sure if this has been posted but....

A USCHO post indicated Cornell will be playing in a 4-team tourney in Lake Placid over Chrsitmas with UMass, Clarkson and Arizona State.

UMass on 12/29, one of the others 12/30 [umassathletics.com]

I just can't see the point in a holiday tourny or any OOC game vs an ECAC member. Surely they can get 4 teams not in the same conference to get together for a holiday set. I liked the original Florida lineup because of this. Ohio State, Maine, Cornell and "plus one" was fun.

The Rancor
I just can't see the point in a holiday tourny or any OOC game vs an ECAC member. Surely they can get 4 teams not in the same conference to get together for a holiday set. I liked the original Florida lineup because of this. Ohio State, Maine, Cornell and "plus one" was fun.

I agree with your point, but Maine and Cornell were the hosts in Florida. OSU was not an annual participant.

I like the idea of an annual Cornell-Clarkson hosted tourney, where we each play somebody in the SF. Make Lake Placid Cornell's home away from home. Demystify it for March.

What I don't understand is why ASU is coming, when they could host the single best location for a Christmas tournament. Phoenix is as pleasant in December as it is horrifying in August.

we make it sound like travel to ASU is something the team and the kids want to do over the holiday.. many hated the florida trip

ASU schedule announced - Big Red traveling back to the desert Jan 12-13

I'd be surprised if the Colgate series is not the week after Thanksgiving. That first week of January will probably be off given the holiday tournament in Lake Placid

So now that we know we are at ASU in Jan., any word on who third team at Lake Placid holiday tourney will be?

617BigRed
So now that we know we are at ASU in Jan., any word on who third team at Lake Placid holiday tourney will be?

Dec. 29 Cornell vs. UMass
Dec. 30 Cornell vs. ASU or Clarkson

jkahn

617BigRed
So now that we know we are at ASU in Jan., any word on who third team at Lake Placid holiday tourney will be?

Dec. 29 Cornell vs. UMass
Dec. 30 Cornell vs. ASU or Clarkson

With something like 60 D-1 Ice Hockey teams out there, Why are we playing Clarkson and Arizona State 3 times in a season, outside of playoffs? Is scheduling that hard or is there a behind the scenes/relationship/reputation problem I am missing?

cost, travel time, budget issues.

Factory schools have no financial incentive.

Are Cornell and Clarkson the hosts?

Some Cornell women's hockey non-conference schedule:

Penn State @ Cornell October 13th-14th
Cornell @ Mercyhurst October 20th-21st

Just got an email saying the schedule is out, but they didn't include a link to the complete schedule ... Anyway, they did list the home games in the email.

Here's the link:

[cornellbigred.com]

OK, I will be in Phoenix for the games.

So. How to get tickets to the games?

Ease of getting tickets for Cornell-at-Arizona State in January? ASU's rink is called Mullett Arena. As God is my witness. (Mullett with two T's although half the stories seem to say Mullet.) ASU says it seats 5,000 for NCAA hockey, 4,600 for the pros. The Cornell-ASU games are Friday-Saturday, Jan. 12-13. While that's Cornell's winter break, for ASU, classes will have resumed 1/8/24.

This is the ASU tickets landing page: [thesundevils.com]
If you google ASU tickets, you wind up on the Ticketmaster ASU tickets page: [am.ticketmaster.com] ... or StubHub shows up. Sheesh.
Cornell may have an allocation of visiting team tickets.

It depends on how crowded ASU games are. This story says ASU averaged 4,791 fans at the Mullett. [collegehockeyinc.com] First weekend of January of the 2022-23 season, ASU played a four-team tournament, draw was 4,973, the following weekend in a home game vs. Michigan Tech, it was 4,956.

Individual tickets for the game at Princeton go on sale today. No purchase link yet available but I imagine that'll change soon.

Edit: Apparently only standing room tickets are available--not even 48 hours after purchase became possible. May also be that many group tickets sold so not as many individual seats available

Is there going to be a Red/White Game soon? I haven't seen any mention of it yet for this season.

Will
Is there going to be a Red/White Game soon? I haven't seen any mention of it yet for this season.

My Daily Sun search result for "Cornell hockey Red White scrimmage" restricted to the last 7 days includes the string "Red & White Scrimmage II · Fri, Oct 13" but going to the pages there is no link to any such information. The mysteries of querying.

last year and before it shows up as a game on the cornellbigred.com site. nothing this year.

no one i know seems to know either..

I asked Phil about it. His response was that there will be no Red/White game this year.

No reason was given.

Trotsky
Opening against a 3-time national champion who has played 5 games, what could go wrong?

Ahem.

(And the actual answer: plenty! Just because you won a lottery does not prove that you were *likely* to win it.

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Saturday, November 11th
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— EVERYTHING COLLEGE HOCKEY (@TeamECH) November 3, 2023

For the Princeton game, which section is typically reserved for visitors?

LGR14
For the Princeton game, which section is typically reserved for visitors?

Hobey Baker rink

Cornell Hockey 401

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I didn't want to start a new thread for this, so I put it here.
I'm planning on going to North Country in February to watch Cornell play at Clarkson and St. Lawrence. Do I need to buy tickets ahead of time for those games? Is there a Cornell club up there which gets a block of tickets? Any advice on decent restaurants for a pre-game meal? Any advice would be appreciated.

Obligatory avoid Canton Pizza Hut comment

Give My Regards
Obligatory avoid Canton Pizza Hut anywhere comment

FYP

scoop85
Obligatory avoid Canton Pizza Hut chains anywhere comment

FYP

Trotsky

scoop85
Obligatory avoid Canton Pizza Hut chains anywhere comment

FYP

Frank Pepe and Sally's are now opening locations beyond New Haven. Not quite the originals but still very good.

There are more than 15,000 college students in Canton, pop. 7,000 (St. Lawrence, Appleton Arena, 3,200 seats, and older by 7 years than Lynah) and Potsdam pop. 15,000 (Clarkson, Cheel Arena 4200 seating). So, yeah, there's food to be had but it is not as, ah, eclectic as in Ithaca. Beyond pizza, there's Chinese, Indian, Thai. County Seat in Canton has a goodly sized bar. You'll find something. The places on the main drag in Canton (Main Street) are serviceable but the food is better than the decor, such as at A-1 Oriental.

If you've got time to kill Saturday and you've already visited Tractor Supply Co. and WalMart on the Canton-Potsdam Road, consider leaving town for lunch at Raquette River Brewing, in Raquette Lake, an hour southeast. A very nice drive if sunny and a reminder Ithaca is not that isolated. RRB is about the size of Ithaca Brewing (the mothership, not Collegetown), the big difference being you get food at RRB outside from a fleet of food trucks which in winter is down to one that makes wood-fired pizzas and I believe sandwiches. (Check their FB page or call to verify.) Or you could go an hour and a half into Lake Placid. Go early, head back early: Sunset is a little after 5:30

You could also kill time Saturday driving along the St. Lawrence River 20 minutes away and it's worth going up the US side and back down the Canadian side if you have your passport. Ampersand Bay is picturesque and a couple good restaurants, the ones that are open.

Oh, you asked about tickets. I've gotten tickets in advance, I've also showed up day-of-game and gotten tickets but I think that's a little risky. At both places.

We've almost survived the Little Death, with less than a week to go. Everybody be safe and happy holidays one and all.

Is the 24-25 ECAC non-travel partner schedule available?

Historically, Jim Hula has posted it on January 1. I know that Jim had personal problems a year ago, but since I do not know him, I an not aware of the current situation or if someone else has access to it.

ursusminor
Is the 24-25 ECAC non-travel partner schedule available?

Historically, Jim Hula has posted it on January 1. I know that Jim had personal problems a year ago, but since I do not know him, I an not aware of the current situation or if someone else has access to it.

A fairly reputable source told me that Cornell at Yale (and by extension at Brown) will be in February next year. Can't speak for anything else