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Cornell at Union 1/6/2023

Posted by dbilmes 
Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 04, 2023 09:16PM

Nice story on the Tupker twins playing against each other for the first time ever.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Dunc (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 06:43PM

Cornell Lines:



Union Lines:


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2023 06:45PM by Dunc.

 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-235-209.myvzw.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:01PM

On one hand, it's great that we have depth in our lines and can roll out four balanced lines.

On the other hand. I feel like we are shaking our lines up pretty radically every game.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:04PM

People jeep getting hurt (Stienburg this time).
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:05PM

Union was outshot 72-27 last weekend against UNH and somehow won both games. And while UNH isn't great to say the least, that's...something.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:05PM

Looking at the ceiling of the Union barn from ice level on camera it is so cool you'd never guess the place is a pit.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:06PM

Iceberg
Union was outshot 72-27 last weekend against UNH and somehow won both games. And while UNH isn't great to say the least, that's...something.
Did UNH use a goalie?
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:08PM

SEB!!! Great start.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:41PM

Fantastic 1st period. Probably equals the 1st period against UCONN as the best of the season.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 07:46PM

Yep, perfect in every respect.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:11PM

I have no idea what Suda was thinking on that play
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:13PM

Fortunately only 2 minutes but a silly penalty indeed
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: RichH (104.28.76.---)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:18PM

Trotsky
People jeep getting hurt (Stienburg this time).

Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:20PM

After we do a great job killing the 5 on 3 Union cashes in to make it 3-1 after a scrum in front. Goal being reviewed.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: RichH (104.28.55.---)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:24PM

scoop85
After we do a great job killing the 5 on 3 Union cashes in to make it 3-1 after a scrum in front. Goal being reviewed.

I don’t have an issue with certain goal reviews like this one, but the number and duration of reviews at this level is grinding the games to a halt. During a review in the first, the cameras just showed tons of kids in the stands bored out of their minds.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:38PM

This pretty much sums up the game for Union


Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2023 08:40PM by Iceberg.

 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:40PM

Cornell with 3 goals in 2:40 to drive the score to 6-1 after 2.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:40PM

RichH
scoop85
After we do a great job killing the 5 on 3 Union cashes in to make it 3-1 after a scrum in front. Goal being reviewed.

I don’t have an issue with certain goal reviews like this one, but the number and duration of reviews at this level is grinding the games to a halt. During a review in the first, the cameras just showed tons of kids in the stands bored out of their minds.
To be fair there is nothing else for the cameras to look at at Achilles. It's like a Day Care. Half the crowd is under 8.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:42PM

Princeton beating Harvard 3-0 in the second at Hobey Baker. Good.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:46PM

Great finish to the period. Malone finally breaking out as he’s looked capable of doing for awhile. Other than taking some silly penalties we’ve looked great.

And kudos to the color guy, who’s informative and has an understated style.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:48PM

scoop85
And kudos to the color guy, who’s informative and has an understated style.
I almost wrote this earlier. He's been able to dissect plays very well, much like Pierson's Pointers back in the day on Bruins broadcasts.

The PBP guy is cromulent but he checked out after our third goal and has really just been bantering since.

Both have been extremely complimentary of Cornell's play and Schafer.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:50PM

Trotsky
To be fair there is nothing else for the cameras to look at at Achilles. It's like a Day Care. Half the crowd is under 8.

The little girl in the blue jacket taunting our guys in the penalty box has been amusing.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:51PM

Nice family of Cornell women in the crowd, albeit the mother looked exactly like Krysten Sinema.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2023 08:52PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:52PM

andyw2100
Trotsky
To be fair there is nothing else for the cameras to look at at Achilles. It's like a Day Care. Half the crowd is under 8.

The little girl in the blue jacket taunting our guys in the penalty box has been amusing.
I thought she was fantastic. When the security dude warned her off during the long Suda review I booed at my computer.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2023 08:57PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:52PM

Trotsky
scoop85
And kudos to the color guy, who’s informative and has an understated style.
I almost wrote this earlier. He's been able to dissect plays very well, much like Pierson's Pointers back in the day on Bruins broadcasts.

The PBP guy is cromulent but he checked out after our third goal and has really just been bantering since.

Both have been extremely complimentary of Cornell's play and Schafer.

After watching the World Juniors and Dave Starman, this is a nice change.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 08:54PM

Camera has been bizarre, alternating a super close up with the puck always out of frame with a pan apparently filmed from the roof of Houston Field House.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: January 06, 2023 09:15PM

Trotsky
Nice family of Cornell women in the crowd, albeit the mother looked exactly like Krysten Sinema.

Guess it’s better than looking like Pelosi with her teeth almost falling out.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 09:30PM

toddlose
Trotsky
Nice family of Cornell women in the crowd, albeit the mother looked exactly like Krysten Sinema.

Guess it’s better than looking like Pelosi with her teeth almost falling out.
Or Qevin McQarthy with his teeth kicked in.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 06, 2023 09:32PM

#13 CHN PWR
#12 USCHO PWR
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/06/2023 09:37PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: French Rage (165.225.243.---)
Date: January 06, 2023 10:17PM

Seger was like a rock out there.

 
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Roy 82 (---.sri.com)
Date: January 06, 2023 10:19PM

French Rage
Seger was like a rock out there.

Ye siree Bob.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: French Rage (165.225.243.---)
Date: January 06, 2023 10:20PM

Roy 82
French Rage
Seger was like a rock out there.

Ye siree Bob.

Working on his goal moves, trying to beat those awkward forward blues.

 
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2023 11:21AM

Cornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we’d be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let’s see if we can keep it up.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 07, 2023 11:25AM

BearLover
Cornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we’d be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let’s see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I’m not an analytics guy, but I’d be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2023 11:56AM

We really lay the wood to bad teams, which should help us accumulate precious points against the bottom of the conference.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2023 11:59AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: dbilmes (64.224.255.---)
Date: January 07, 2023 04:44PM

There's nothing too scintillating on it, but Ken Schott's podcast has all of the post-game quotes from both Cornell and Union.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2023 05:57PM

I liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube. They don't appear to do that anymore. :-(
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 07, 2023 06:05PM

Trotsky
I liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube. They don't appear to do that anymore. :-(

Eco-friendly. Think of the KWHr's saved.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2023 06:48PM

marty
Trotsky
I liked when Mike's post-game presser was on YouTube. They don't appear to do that anymore. :-(

Eco-friendly. Think of the KWHr's saved.
One picosecond of Bitcoin farming.
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 07, 2023 09:48PM

it requires some effort from the communication team I suppose
 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 09, 2023 01:38PM

scoop85
BearLover
Cornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we’d be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let’s see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I’m not an analytics guy, but I’d be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.
Someone correct me if this data exists, but I believe time of possession is not publicly tracked for college hockey. The best we have is shot attempts, which does a decent job approximating possession. CHN's stats page tracks a team's Corsi (percentage of total shot attempts) and Fenwick (percentage of unblocked shot attempts). CHN also provides these statistics "close," i.e. only with respect to the portion of a hockey game when the score is within one goal.

Our possession numbers are strong, by these metrics. Our Corsi is 8th and our "close" Corsi is 12th. Our Fenwick is 4th and our "close" Fenwick is 3rd. (Quinnipiac is #1 in the country in all of these except #2 in Corsi non-close.) With that said, there is a major caveat, which is that these numbers do not adjust for strength of schedule. Our SOS is 38th in the country. (Quinnipiac's is 39th.) Our numbers would obviously be worse if we were regularly playing other top teams. Also, we are dealing with small sample sizes, especially with respect to the "close" metrics. Many of our games this year have been blowouts and saw little time during which the score was within one goal. When the game is not close, the team that is behind will press harder and rack up more shot attempts.

Funnily, the 2019-20 team was 9th in Corsi, 9th in Corse "close," tied for 7th in Fenwick and 6th in Fenwick "close." Last year's team was 8th in Corsi, 9th in Corsi "close," 8th in Fenwick, and 9th in Fenwick "close." So, our "possession" numbers have been essentially unchanged the last three seasons, despite massively different results. (And our SOS was 38th and 39th in the last two seasons, so also essentially unchanged.) Are we an equally good possession team every year, and the only variables that change are shooting percentage and save percentage? That's what the numbers suggest, at least.
 
Re: Keopple's Helmet
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 09, 2023 04:56PM

Anybody ever notice the inscription on the back of Keopple's helmet?

II Thessalonians 3:10
“The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”


No, Trotsky. It's not from Lenin.

 
___________________________
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2023 05:00PM by TimV.

 
Re: Cornell at Union 1/6/2023
Posted by: abmarks (---.mycingular.net)
Date: January 09, 2023 05:50PM

BearLover
scoop85
BearLover
Cornell is looking far more dominant at winning and maintaining possession than they did at any point last season. If not for scheduling two games at Duluth to begin the season, we’d be one of the best Pairwise teams in the country. Let’s see if we can keep it up.

Yes, our puck possession has been more noticeable this year. I’m not an analytics guy, but I’d be interested to see a comparison of the numbers.
Someone correct me if this data exists, but I believe time of possession is not publicly tracked for college hockey. The best we have is shot attempts, which does a decent job approximating possession. CHN's stats page tracks a team's Corsi (percentage of total shot attempts) and Fenwick (percentage of unblocked shot attempts). CHN also provides these statistics "close," i.e. only with respect to the portion of a hockey game when the score is within one goal.

Our possession numbers are strong, by these metrics. Our Corsi is 8th and our "close" Corsi is 12th. Our Fenwick is 4th and our "close" Fenwick is 3rd. (Quinnipiac is #1 in the country in all of these except #2 in Corsi non-close.) With that said, there is a major caveat, which is that these numbers do not adjust for strength of schedule. Our SOS is 38th in the country. (Quinnipiac's is 39th.) Our numbers would obviously be worse if we were regularly playing other top teams. Also, we are dealing with small sample sizes, especially with respect to the "close" metrics. Many of our games this year have been blowouts and saw little time during which the score was within one goal. When the game is not close, the team that is behind will press harder and rack up more shot attempts.

Funnily, the 2019-20 team was 9th in Corsi, 9th in Corse "close," tied for 7th in Fenwick and 6th in Fenwick "close." Last year's team was 8th in Corsi, 9th in Corsi "close," 8th in Fenwick, and 9th in Fenwick "close." So, our "possession" numbers have been essentially unchanged the last three seasons, despite massively different results. (And our SOS was 38th and 39th in the last two seasons, so also essentially unchanged.) Are we an equally good possession team every year, and the only variables that change are shooting percentage and save percentage? That's what the numbers suggest, at least.

I'd want to know if shot quality and location had changed.
 

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