UConn @ Cornell (MSG), 11/26/2022

Creating a new post for the game thread itself so lines are pinned at top

Cornell:



UConn:

As of 7:33, the derps are still derping their derp on WHCU.

Presumably Radio Free Goebbels will cease shatting itself soon in preference for Jason.

But, Jesus fuck, what an embarrassment to have Sturmabteilung Tonight as the lead-in for our lads.

Dunc

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Why, with every name spelled out phonetically, do opponent announcers so often mispronounce our players names?

Video has kicked in. Neither of these teams has what anyone west of the Hudson River would call an attractive fan base. Demographics is destiny. Let's Go Red!

These MSG leads-ins are... um...

UConn evidently not awake yet. Bancroft had no one within a mile of him

Edit: And apparently neither is the camera crew. WTF at missing that Psenicka goal

:32 Bancroft 1-0.

1:15 Psenicka!!!

WOW 2-0 right away

Also… why is the video feed just the Jumbotron with our announcers piped over…. Makes it somewhat hard to watch ngl

Dunc
Also… why is the video feed just the Jumbotron with our announcers piped over…. Makes it somewhat hard to watch ngl

Yeah, can't stand not having crowd and ice sounds. What the hell?

I’m actually listening to the UConn audio and syncing it with the video feed. Slightly more bearable. At least I can hear the crowd.

Cornell basically winning every battle and having everything go their way. Maybe the best the team has looked in any game

ER
I’m actually listening to the UConn audio and syncing it with the video feed. Slightly more bearable. At least I can hear the crowd.

Thanks. I may try doing that myself.

Edit: Tried it. Didn't like it. Couldn't really hear much more.

Sync up Jason he's so much better than the MSG audio. Cornell hitting everything in sight, we look fantastic so far!!!

If I’m not mistaken, Grady Whittenburg is doing the commentary, solo, from a remote location (Lynah???) with the same video feed as is being shown on ESPN+. If so, he’s a miracle worker.

Live stats says the game hasn't started. Maybe I'm dreaming this?

Shots are 10-1.

"Who are these guys?"

I have been surprised at how bad Grady has been this year. When he was the radio guy for Cornell he was amazing but years of pro video really developed terrible derp habits. He's essentially an ESPN broadcaster now. Up close and personal garbage. I love the guy, but woof.

Shots are 15-3. Not cheapies either. Holy shit.

Tbh we’ve looked like a completely new/higher caliber team since 2nd period against SHU

Andreev crossbar. Shots 18-5.

As of right now UConn does not belong on the same ice as we.

3-0.

Who are these guys?

Jason, paraphrased: "the Cornell crowd is already shitfaced."

Trotsky
Sync up Jason he's so much better than the MSG audio. Cornell hitting everything in sight, we look fantastic so far!!!

Yeah. This is way better. Thanks!

Trotsky
I have been surprised at how bad Grady has been this year. When he was the radio guy for Cornell he was amazing but years of pro video really developed terrible derp habits. He's essentially an ESPN broadcaster now. Up close and personal garbage. I love the guy, but woof.

Grandy keeps saying that Ondrej Psenicka is from Russia. Is there some expansion of the Russian aggression I haven't heard about?

Somebody want to tell Grady that Prague is not part of Russia?

And that, kids, is what 2003 was like.

I dunno where that came from, but FFS keep it coming.

pfibiger

Trotsky
I have been surprised at how bad Grady has been this year. When he was the radio guy for Cornell he was amazing but years of pro video really developed terrible derp habits. He's essentially an ESPN broadcaster now. Up close and personal garbage. I love the guy, but woof.

Grandy keeps saying that Ondrej Psenicka is from Russia. Is there some expansion of the Russian aggression I haven't heard about?

As a Czech, I can only say, 1968 muthafucka.

Seger for the other Tupker was a pretty good deal. No offense, Zach.

Trotsky
Video has kicked in. Neither of these teams has what anyone west of the Hudson River would call an attractive fan base. Demographics is destiny. Let's Go Red!

Demographics are destiny? Really may want to reconsider the quotes you use.

A;lso, Brown beating {PROVICED* and Princeton kicking the ever loving shit outta RIT. Good night if we can hold all of this.

* _{This is a 30-year old callback.}

At msg. Completely stunned by how UConn looks. Have not watched them this year, but I assume they’ve looked better. Looks like they’re not communicating at all. Getting beaten to loose pucks, fat rebounds. I suspect this will change.

arugula

Trotsky
Video has kicked in. Neither of these teams has what anyone west of the Hudson River would call an attractive fan base. Demographics is destiny. Let's Go Red!

Demographics are destiny? Really may want to reconsider the quotes you use.

Consciously considered. Kind, rational people await. Get the fuck off the coast.

I just saw the score at the end of the first--holy crap.

What??

arugula
At msg. Completely stunned by how UConn looks. Have not watched them this year, but I assume they’ve looked better. Looks like they’re not communicating at all. Getting beaten to loose pucks, fat rebounds. I suspect this will change.

This has to be an aberration. I expect the next ten minutes to be a buzzsaw for UConn.

djk26
I just saw the score at the end of the first--holy crap.

It is not as close as the score.

arugula
What??

Sorry. 30 years away from the Entitlement of the Acela Corridor has me wondering why we don't dump our nuclear waste there. In bulk. Immediately.

I'm sure those condemned to lived there have their reasons. < Caddyshack "Looks good on you" expression >

Crowd is disappointing. Whole empty sections. This is what I meant when I suggested unconnected may not be the best choice.

arugula
Crowd is disappointing. Whole empty sections. This is what I meant when I suggested unconnected may not be the best choice.

Could be they are still lined up at the veal fattening pens from between periods. They won't announce turnstile until the third if they do it like prior years.

I would actually expect UConn to draw okay.

I'm awkwardly watching without sound. What's there to review here? Honestly, looked like a flop to me (after some definite interference), but I'm kind of a homer when it comes to calls.

Oh, to be honest Rego, not a good look, up 3-0.

Dafatone
I'm awkwardly watching without sound. What's there to review here? Honestly, looked like a flop to me (after some definite interference), but I'm kind of a homer when it comes to calls.

Sync with WHCU. This is The Way. The ESPN+ audio is FUBAR.

There is a lot more beer in frame than prior years.

Fuckers have nice puck movement on pp. Thank you, Ian.

Holy fucking shit Mitchell and Malinski have been SO good.

5 minutes, 6 UConn shots. Would not be surprised to see 6 more in the next 5 minutes.

"Oh hello, Northern Virginia's best health plan." I'm assuming this audio did not hit the rest of you during that UConn drive?

Oh fuck it reset my sync. Can we please end capitalism already?

Second post. We are millimeters from 5-0.

Um. Are we good again?

Millimeters from 7-0. What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?

Trotsky
Um. Are we good again?

Could just as well ask "Is UConn bad again?"

Holy fuck. 5-0.

Trotsky
Second post. We are millimeters from 5-0.

Now it is. When was the last time a freshman had a hat trick? Malott at Princeton few years ago?

Definitely the first time hat trick for a CU freshman at MSG.

Iceberg

Trotsky
Second post. We are millimeters from 5-0.

Now it is. When was the last time a freshman had a hat trick? Malott at Princeton few years ago?

Weren't those Malott's first three goals on the season? And it was like halfway into the year, if I remember. Which I probably don't.

Iceberg

Trotsky
Second post. We are millimeters from 5-0.

Now it is. When was the last time a freshman had a hat trick? Malott at Princeton few years ago?

Berard in '20 maybe?

With the other results tonight, Cornell has moved to 25th in PWR. I do not know if we crack top 20 by holding on (UConn is currently 7th).

Trotsky
With the other results tonight, Cornell has moved to 25th in PWR.

And UConn has dropped to 7 (from 5).

I guess the PWR is still a little volatile, huh?

I know you can't play the puck with a broken stick. Does kicking at the puck count? Should've dropped the broken stick, I guess?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
With the other results tonight, Cornell has moved to 25th in PWR.

And UConn has dropped to 7 (from 5).

I guess the PWR is still a little volatile, huh?

Fair point. Before New Years, the PWR is a shit show.

What does UConn and Stetson have in common? (But in a way UConn is more unique)

Dafatone
I know you can't play the puck with a broken stick. Does kicking at the puck count? Should've dropped the broken stick, I guess?

Art would know but I think you can be called for carrying a broken stick even if you are nowhere near the puck.

Trotsky

Dafatone
I know you can't play the puck with a broken stick. Does kicking at the puck count? Should've dropped the broken stick, I guess?

Art would know but I think you can be called for carrying a broken stick even if you are nowhere near the puck.

"A player whose stick is broken may participate in the game provided
the player immediately drops the broken stick."

Trotsky

Dafatone
I know you can't play the puck with a broken stick. Does kicking at the puck count? Should've dropped the broken stick, I guess?

Art would know but I think you can be called for carrying a broken stick even if you are nowhere near the puck.

Correct.

What a beautiful game that was

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
With the other results tonight, Cornell has moved to 25th in PWR.

And UConn has dropped to 7 (from 5).

I guess the PWR is still a little volatile, huh?

Fair point. Before New Years, the PWR is a shit show.

We're up to 20 and UConn is down to 11.

Jason is bad at the internet. We are 20th in PWR. Now beat the snot outta Harvard. It will be my first game in over 3 years.

Cornell looked like the quicker, stronger team all night. I don't know if UConn had an off night or what but they could barely generate anything and looked horrendous in the neutral zone in particular. Definitely a few skilled players up front but they were very neutralized and Shane didn't really have too many difficult saves.

Trotsky
Jason is bad at the internet. We are 20th in PWR. Now beat the snot outta Harvard. It will be my first game in over 3 years.

Bring a few mackerel. It might help...

Best game Cornell has played since 2019-20. Cornell jumped on them in the first 1:15 and that obviously changed the complexion of the game, but Cornell skated with and out-gritted UConn all 60 minutes. UConn gave up a surprising amount of space and Cornell made them pay by connecting on some really nice passing plays. Cornell also had their sticks in the right position defensively all night long. I’m not sure UConn is really a top-10 team. Cornell still hesitates too long on the PP and that won’t work against Harvard. The freshman forwards + Seger continue to impress. Shane had to make few difficult saves but was solid, only giving up a few rebounds.

Trotsky

arugula
What??

Sorry. 30 years away from the Entitlement of the Acela Corridor has me wondering why we don't dump our nuclear waste there. In bulk. Immediately.

I'm sure those condemned to lived there have their reasons. < Caddyshack "Looks good on you" expression >

As a life long resident of the Acela corridor, I think I’ll ignore what seems to be at best a random a provocation and at worse something a lot darker and stick to hockey or maybe leave the site. You want to dump nuclear waste on me. Ok.

arugula

Trotsky

arugula
What??

Sorry. 30 years away from the Entitlement of the Acela Corridor has me wondering why we don't dump our nuclear waste there. In bulk. Immediately.

I'm sure those condemned to lived there have their reasons. < Caddyshack "Looks good on you" expression >

As a life long resident of the Acela corridor, I think I’ll ignore what seems to be at best a random a provocation and at worse something a lot darker and stick to hockey or maybe leave the site. You want to dump nuclear waste on me. Ok.

You have to understand that Trotsky loves Cornell hockey and hates literally everything else.

ugarte

arugula

Trotsky

arugula
What??

Sorry. 30 years away from the Entitlement of the Acela Corridor has me wondering why we don't dump our nuclear waste there. In bulk. Immediately.

I'm sure those condemned to lived there have their reasons. < Caddyshack "Looks good on you" expression >

As a life long resident of the Acela corridor, I think I’ll ignore what seems to be at best a random a provocation and at worse something a lot darker and stick to hockey or maybe leave the site. You want to dump nuclear waste on me. Ok.

You have to understand that Trotsky loves Cornell hockey and hates literally everything else.

That is not entirely true.

In addition to Cornell hockey I also like:

my family (well... some of my family)
some old movies (old = < 1950)
some old blues songs (old = < 1940)
some, no, many old jazz songs (old = < 1960)
many old buildings (old = < 1400 )
some old people (old = < 1930)

And. Well, not much else.

Though to be honest I actually like you, ugarte, despite your limitations.

It appears C.U. does have a competitive Men's hockey team this year. This takes the heat off apologists and puts it where it belongs.

Iceberg
Cornell looked like the quicker, stronger team all night. I don't know if UConn had an off night or what but they could barely generate anything and looked horrendous in the neutral zone in particular. Definitely a few skilled players up front but they were very neutralized and Shane didn't really have too many difficult saves.

Suda, in a positive sense, stuck out to me again. Dependable defensively for a slightly undersized defenseman; I am "noticing" him defensively less and less. And boy was that a nifty pinch/shot on Bancroft's first goal! (Only on our team would 6'1" be undersized, but I digress.) Just crept into the open ice, was perfectly positioned, and didn't fool around with it.

And he only played 6 games last year! All upside.

Our breakout D this year, however, has been Rego, who has gone from pretty good to damn impressive. I like the freshmen a lot. Stienburg and Psenicka are officially out of my doghouse. If Berard starts producing at the clip he's capable of, we're going to be dangerous.

Warm ups are over. We're looking great. Beat Harvard.

Scersk '97

Iceberg
Cornell looked like the quicker, stronger team all night. I don't know if UConn had an off night or what but they could barely generate anything and looked horrendous in the neutral zone in particular. Definitely a few skilled players up front but they were very neutralized and Shane didn't really have too many difficult saves.

Suda, in a positive sense, stuck out to me again. Dependable defensively for a slightly undersized defenseman; I am "noticing" him defensively less and less. And boy was that a nifty pinch/shot on Bancroft's first goal! (Only on our team would 6'1" be undersized, but I digress.) Just crept into the open ice, was perfectly positioned, and didn't fool around with it.

And he only played 6 games last year! All upside.

Our breakout D this year, however, has been Rego, who has gone from pretty good to damn impressive. I like the freshmen a lot. Stienburg and Psenicka are officially out of my doghouse. If Berard starts producing at the clip he's capable of, we're going to be dangerous.

Warm ups are over. We're looking great. Beat Harvard.

My first Cornell hockey game since the 2019 MSG game against BU, and obviously pleased with the performance. Completely different team than we saw in Potsdam just a few weeks ago.

I agree with Skerk’s observations. Last year I thought Suda showed promise in his limited appearances, and he’s now become a mainstay. Nice to see Dirven, who struggled with defensive zone turnovers last season, return to form.

Overall we did fine with our breakouts, and the relatively few times we got penned in we smartly chipped it out, albeit with a few too many icings. But we dominated at the faceoff dot, so that wasn’t a big issue.

Shane wasn’t under too much fire, but his positioning was excellent as was his rebound control. If he plays like that consistently we’re going to win a lot of games.

You could see from even the 1st weekend against Duluth that Bancroft has star potential, and last night he broke out in a big way. Great wrister on the 1st goal, and even more impressive were his tip-ins on his other two goals. We haven’t had too many guys with that skill in recent years (Joe Devin comes to mind), which is really key for the power play. Speaking of the power play, it was noteworthy that Bancroft was playing on the 1st power play unit, I believe taking Berard’s usual spot.

Great to see Psenicka and Stienberg get on the scoresheet last night, and I thought both of them had strong games. Berard had an assist, and hopefully he’ll get going too. And Mack, who has a lot of ability, is starting to find his rhythm at the college level.

Hard to ask for a better performance heading into the Harvard game. Harvard of course is loaded with talent, but we should have confidence that if we play like we did last night we can come out with a win.

If we play like we did last night, we can beat anybody. Rarely seen a more complete victory over a quality team.

The trick is whether it is dependably repeatable, or the stars aligning in one glorious, transient moment.

There's a lot of posts in this threaad about how well we played during that monumental, good old fashioned ass-kicking and name-taking last night... And sure, we played well, but something doesn't add up. How in the hell was UConn 10-2-2? I just don't get it. They played decent teams, many from Hockey East. Heck, even if they were 7-2-2 from just playing AHA teams that would still be reasonably respectable. I never in a million years would have predicted last night's outcome. I thought we were going to get smoked. Did UConn all order the fish at Olive Garden or something? They looked like a bunch of jokers on skates, not a team with a 10-2-2 record.

And winning is one thing... But schooling them 6-zip?!?

HeafDog
There's a lot of posts in this threaad about how well we played during that monumental, good old fashioned ass-kicking and name-taking last night... And sure, we played well, but something doesn't add up. How in the hell was UConn 10-2-2? I just don't get it. They played decent teams, many from Hockey East. Heck, even if they were 7-2-2 from just playing AHA teams that would still be reasonably respectable. I never in a million years would have predicted last night's outcome. I thought we were going to get smoked. Did UConn all order the fish at Olive Garden or something? They looked like a bunch of jokers on skates, not a team with a 10-2-2 record.

And winning is one thing... But schooling them 6-zip?!?

The probably looked at our record, and then asked their moms (or dads) for second and third helpings of turkey plus another few slices of pumpkin pie.

Roy 82
What does UConn and Stetson have in common? (But in a way UConn is more unique)

Well, I always thought it was kind of cool. I can't think of other examples.

A couple of leftover items from MSG game:

1) Does anyone know what the official attendance was? I'm guessing there were 10-11,000 people in the building. As expected, not many UConn fans.
2) I was disappointed no hats were thrown onto the ice when Bancfroft registered his hat trick. I wanted to throw mine, but since I was 18 rows from the ice I would have had trouble throwing it that distance and getting it over the glass.
3) Did anyone get an explanation what the officials were looking for when they had that lengthy video replay after the penalty on Rego early in the second period? The play didn't seem to justify such a lengthy delay.
4) It didn't make a difference, but that was a horrible call midway through final period when the UConn player hooked Mitchell, and threw a punch at him. How did UConn end up with a power play? If they were going to give Mitchell and Rego roughing penalties for the altercation, the UConn player should have gotten a double minor, with one for roughing as well.
5) In addition to our fast start, Stienburg's goal late in the first period was key. I had the feeling that if UConn could have picked up a goal before the end of the first period and went into the locker room trailing just 2-1 after being sorely outplayed for most of the period, we would have had a much tougher game on our hands. Instead, we went up 3-0 and UConn never really got into the game.
6) Was anyone else surprised that UConn kept Terness in goal in for the whole game? Not all of the goals were his fault, but he looked shaky much of the game, giving up a lot of rebounds. I would have thought UConn might have pulled him heading into the third period trailing 5-0.

Terness looked fine to me and was probably the only positive about UConn's performance, but yes, perhaps he should've been pulled to at least energize the team. UConn tried to generate energy by being chippy and drawing penalties but it obviously didn't work

dbilmes
2) I was disappointed no hats were thrown onto the ice when Bancfroft registered his hat trick.

Same here but I was 20 rows back and behind a net. I got the feeling that a lot of people didn't realize it was a hatty until it was announced.

3) Did anyone get an explanation what the officials were looking for when they had that lengthy video replay after the penalty on Rego early in the second period? The play didn't seem to justify such a lengthy delay.

I think Rego's stick got high and up into the helmet but it looked like it rode up his body rather than being a direct crack to the shield.

Everything clicked last night. I loved it.

ugarte

dbilmes

3) Did anyone get an explanation what the officials were looking for when they had that lengthy video replay after the penalty on Rego early in the second period? The play didn't seem to justify such a lengthy delay.

I think Rego's stick got high and up into the helmet but it looked like it rode up his body rather than being a direct crack to the shield.

Jason Weinstein seemed to think that Schafer asked for the review, and was asking for what happened shortly before the penalty to be reviewed. That was the same player Rego tangled with having hit Rego pretty high (close to his head) and into the boards.

Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

Maybe UConn was intimidated by playing in MSG?

On another topic, Bancroft is a 21 yr old freshman with SIX years of Major Junior experience.

There used to be rules about losing years of college eligibility...is that still an issue?

Trotsky

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

yeah I think they'd offset. you can lose a goal but no free shots.

dbilmes
2) I was disappointed no hats were thrown onto the ice when Bancfroft registered his hat trick. I wanted to throw mine, but since I was 18 rows from the ice I would have had trouble throwing it that distance and getting it over the glass.

Same. I was way up in the 200 level and the only way my hat could have made it to the ice was if it had a brick in it.

Would throwing a hat at MSG get someone thrown out? (Without a brick, that is.)

andyw2100

ugarte

dbilmes

3) Did anyone get an explanation what the officials were looking for when they had that lengthy video replay after the penalty on Rego early in the second period? The play didn't seem to justify such a lengthy delay.

I think Rego's stick got high and up into the helmet but it looked like it rode up his body rather than being a direct crack to the shield.

Jason Weinstein seemed to think that Schafer asked for the review, and was asking for what happened shortly before the penalty to be reviewed. That was the same player Rego tangled with having hit Rego pretty high (close to his head) and into the boards.

Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I was wondering if the review was for the elbow to Rego’s head before he took his penalty. I too am curious had that call been made, would Rego’s penalty have been wiped out.

ugarte

Trotsky

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

yeah I think they'd offset. you can lose a goal but no free shots.

Not quite the same, but I remember the Penguins committing a penalty on a breakaway for a penalty shot. But then a review caught a missed good goal, and since you can't have two goals on one stoppage (whatever that means), the penalty shot became a power play. Pens killed it and the guy who committed it immediately scored once he got back on the ice.

So in that different NHL case, a later penalty still counted after a goal that was missed. But it became a power play instead of a penalty shot.

Trotsky

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

Assuming you are correct, what do they do if a penalty is called 30 seconds after an on-ice ruling of no goal during play that winds up being reviewed and found to be a goal? I'm fairly certain the clock is reset to the time of the goal. Would the penalty that occurred later also be assessed at that reset time (the goal time.)

And while I'm definitely not a rules maven, I'm fairly certain that a goal scored by the other team in the above scenario doesn't count if after a stoppage an earlier non-goal is reviewed and found to be a goal, right?

So a goal in that situation comes off the board but a penalty doesn't?

To answer one of my own questions, I just saw the official box score and the attendance was listed as 12,247.

andyw2100

Trotsky

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

Assuming you are correct, what do they do if a penalty is called 30 seconds after an on-ice ruling of no goal during play that winds up being reviewed and found to be a goal? I'm fairly certain the clock is reset to the time of the goal. Would the penalty that occurred later also be assessed at that reset time (the goal time.)

And while I'm definitely not a rules maven, I'm fairly certain that a goal scored by the other team in the above scenario doesn't count if after a stoppage an earlier non-goal is reviewed and found to be a goal, right?

So a goal in that situation comes off the board but a penalty doesn't?

In the NHL at least, that first scenario is still a goal and a penalty, if I remember the game I described correctly.

Which I probably don't.

andyw2100

Trotsky

andyw2100
Here's one for the guys that are on top of the rules: if they had ruled the original contact a penalty against the UConn player, would Rego's penalty that happened later have stood?

I can't imagine a penalty gets taken off the board if time is rolled back. It's not a save point. The infraction against the rules still occurred.

Assuming you are correct, what do they do if a penalty is called 30 seconds after an on-ice ruling of no goal during play that winds up being reviewed and found to be a goal? I'm fairly certain the clock is reset to the time of the goal. Would the penalty that occurred later also be assessed at that reset time (the goal time.)

And while I'm definitely not a rules maven, I'm fairly certain that a goal scored by the other team in the above scenario doesn't count if after a stoppage an earlier non-goal is reviewed and found to be a goal, right?

So a goal in that situation comes off the board but a penalty doesn't?

That is my assumption. "Civil actions" (goals, offsides, icings) are wiped out when the clock rewinds. "Criminal actions" (penalties) persist.

I'm guessing. ACM will know the exact rules and their evolution since the Harding administration.

osorojo
It appears C.U. does have a competitive Men's hockey team this year. This takes the heat off apologists and puts it where it belongs.

Where exactly does the heat belong now?

Here is the link to the NCAA rule book. You can download the PDF for free. Research the answers to your questions there.

nshapiro
On another topic, Bancroft is a 21 yr old freshman with SIX years of Major Junior experience.

There used to be rules about losing years of college eligibility...is that still an issue?

According to hockeyDB, Bancroft played six seasons in the OJHL and MHL, which are Junior A leagues and considered to be amateur. Major Junior is the next level up; it is considered a professional level and playing in Major Juniors would remove NCAA eligibility.