Colgate 2/4

hahaha hoo boy yikes still no andreev and...

MIH | Berard and Haiskanen are out; Bramwell and Lagerstrom are in. Mack at center for the first time; Penney back to the wing. Ian Shane starts his eighth straight in goal #YellCornell pic.twitter.com/3hgEmAkEs8

— CornellSportsGameday (@CUBigRedGameday) February 4, 2022

Thanks for starting this. I’ll repost that Cornell is wearing their whites.

Circle the wagons.

i have never seen the name suda before in my life

ugarte
i have never seen the name suda before in my life

He played at Brown, too. Michael. IINM, he was highly recruited.

This is the first game I can recall where all four Phantom Sophomores (O'Leary, Penney, Lagerstorm, Rego) are in the lineup.

Colgate should always wear these sweaters. They are lovely.

Colgate just collapsing in front of their net. Not a lot of room. But we’re forechecking hard.

The Colgate pbp is very good. Playing it straight.

Refs appear to have swallowed their whistles tonight.

cornell men's hockey on its way to total implosion

Poor defensive play in our end. We look lost out there, fumbling pucks and misfiring passes. Missing several key guys is putting a huge hurt on our game.

blackwidow
cornell men's hockey on its way to total implosion

Go away.

Of all the nonsense, Colgate's shutting off all the lights when they score a goal might be the most nonsense.

Dafatone
Of all the nonsense, Colgate's shutting off all the lights when they score a goal might be the most nonsense.

Yeah, that’s lame.

this team has been killed by the simple mistakes for weeks.. just throwing the puck off the half way for no reason to colgate creates a goal.. coming in multiple times on rushes and throwing pucks 10 ft away from team mates, and then every good chance the goalies are saving,

the easy passes and decisions are killing them over and over and when you cant score they add up to losses.

blackwidow
cornell men's hockey on its way to total implosion

Don't take this the wrong way, but go fuck yourself.

Trotsky

blackwidow
cornell men's hockey on its way to total implosion

Don't take this the wrong way, but go fuck yourself.

damn.. i guess truth hurts :'(

Well, tie game again.

If it wasn’t previously clear why Mitchell never became a forward, he’s missed more grade A opportunities the last 2 games than the rest of the team combined.

Moving the puck swell, setting up well, no complaints, just keep it up.

I wish O'Leary would not hop up like that it only takes one knee collision.

Trotsky
Moving the puck swell, setting up well, no complaints, just keep it up.

Without Berard and Andreev the PP is a shell of what it is at its best.

An atrocious penalty—fanning on the dump in and then tripping the player immediately thereafter—leads to a not good result.

The Youngs *are* the Tupkers.

This pbp guy is excellent.

We need to get healthy

Trotsky
The Youngs *are* the Tupkers.

The Tupkers have been terrific this year, but the Youngs are more skilled.

Trotsky
This pbp guy is excellent.

Wonderfully knowledgeable, but I wish he’d take a breath now and then.

scoop85

Trotsky
The Youngs *are* the Tupkers.

The Tupkers have been terrific this year, but the Youngs are more skilled.

Well, Colton is anyway.

Trotsky
This pbp guy is excellent.

Yes, definitely one of the better ones of the teams have had a consistent PBP guy (i.e. Brown).

That should be a double minor on their guy

Betts looks... irritated.

scoop85
That should be a double minor on their guy

All I can think is Locke may have been holding him from getting up. Vachon looked furious.

Trotsky
Betts looks... irritated.

He should be

Traditional matching minors for jumping a guy and for getting jumped.

I'm not crazy, right, we should *not* be 4x4 here. It should remain 5x5?

Ufda, offsides by a mile.

And now we have to play without one of our few remaining legitimate offensive threats for 12 minutes.

Colgate is doing a good job keeping everything to the outside. One of the few exceptions was Psenicka’s goal.

Malone, Betts, and Locke have been so good tonight.

Trotsky
I'm not crazy, right, we should *not* be 4x4 here. It should remain 5x5?

Maybe not crazy, but wrong.

ACM

Trotsky
I'm not crazy, right, we should *not* be 4x4 here. It should remain 5x5?

Maybe not crazy, but wrong.

I'm so old I have forgotten the rules.

Psenicka’s gonna score a lot of goals and draw a lot of penalties if he learns to keep driving the net like that.

play every minute like it's the first minute

ugarte
play every minute like it's the first minute

Also good sex advice.

Almost certainly going to take a greasy goal if we’re going to get another.

"As big as a grizzly bear."

OK, I've watched hockey for 50 years and that's a first.

Trotsky
"As big as a grizzly bear."

OK, I've watched hockey for 50 years and that's a first.

I’m surprised he didn’t say “As big as a grizzly bear like the one who played for Chilliwack in the BCHL and was the teammate of Northern Michigan’s Moe Spernackle.”

Awful rebound.

Ethan Manderville should have been a Cornellian...

This game has been all about special teams, and we’ve been awful in both aspects.

"SCMODS"?

State, County, Municipal Offender Data System.

If refs were just gonna blow the whistle when we approached the net because the goalie was down, can we have the last five seconds back?

Benson hasn’t been as good as the Dartmouth and Brown goaltenders, but he’s been good enough to frustrate us.

Trotsky
This pbp guy is excellent.

Yes, but I’m still waiting for him to say “boom goes the dynamite.”

ugh

Um, maybe having Mike behind the bench is important.

Trotsky
Um, maybe having Mike behind the bench is important.

As would be having Berard, Andreev and Haiskenan in the lineup.

Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

We gotta draw up a new penalty kill. We do this weird triangle and one thing where you have two guys down low, one in the center, and one at the point. When the puck swings out wide, it's one of the down low guys who goes to cover it, forcing everyone to shift.

Our kill gets stretched vertically, and since the top and center guys are stacked in a line, it's easier to pass across through them. Teams only need to beat one man to pass across.

scoop85

Trotsky
Um, maybe having Mike behind the bench is important.

As would be having Berard, Andreev and Haiskenan in the lineup.

Every team has injuries. Cornell has had its fair share in far more successful seasons than this one. See 2018-19 as one example. Stunning dearth of offensive talent outside of the top few guys on this team. Coupled with bad goaltending and you’re looking at a team that has no shot at an at-large bid.

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

Seems the only things getting called are a random hook here or there. Meanwhile, no one can get to loose pucks because they’re being tackled or crosschecked. It’s mind numbing, and I thought we were past that as a league.

Trotsky
Ethan Manderville should have been a Cornellian...

His junior hockey numbers were poor enough that I don’t know if Cornell even wanted him.

Scersk '97

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

Seems the only things getting called are a random hook here or there. Meanwhile, no one can get to loose pucks because they’re being tackled or crosschecked. It’s mind numbing, and I thought we were past that as a league.

This is what we get for transitioning to a skilled team.

Dafatone

Scersk '97

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

Seems the only things getting called are a random hook here or there. Meanwhile, no one can get to loose pucks because they’re being tackled or crosschecked. It’s mind numbing, and I thought we were past that as a league.

This is what we get for transitioning to a skilled team.

We get better reffing when Schafer is on the bench, through some combination of alchemy and barking.

More likely to make the NCAA tourney: men’s hockey or men’s hoops. Who ya got

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

the thing is, i don't care. i'm sure the teams we're losing to do that to all of their opponents but we're the team they manage to beat.

i'm not going to be a broken record about the structure our offense ... but i hate it! as a symbol of everything i hate about it, it's when we take what seems like 15 seconds on the power play to get the puck out from behind our net with because there's someone on the other side. nobody else does this!

ugarte

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

the thing is, i don't care. i'm sure the teams we're losing to do that to all of their opponents but we're the team they manage to beat.

i'm not going to be a broken record about the structure our offense ... but i hate it! as a symbol of everything i hate about it, it's when we take what seems like 15 seconds on the power play to get the puck out from behind our net with because there's someone on the other side. nobody else does this!

I agree. Did these crap teams like Dartmouth, Princeton, Brown, and Colgate all of a sudden learn to clutch and grab? Is this the first year Cornell has endured injuries? Stop making excuses. This is the same team that tied Alaska (twice) and Brown early in the season when Cornell was at full strength. This team hasn’t been impressive the whole year. It’s a shame given where the program was pre-COVID, but it’s not there anymore. We were spoiled. Maybe next year.

I agree with Dafatone on the PK and with ugarte on the PP. I don’t see any other teams as passive on both the PK and PP as Cornell is. I can’t remember which recent opponent—it was Princeton, Dartmouth, or Brown, or some combination of them—but this opponent(s) was forechecking Cornell on 5x5 and aggressively chasing the puck carrier on the PK and Cornell had no answer for it. Maybe against Harvard, with their thirteen draft picks, you could imagine this happening. But Cornell literally couldn’t beat the forecheck or cleanly set up possession in the offensive zone on the PP against freaking P/D/B, whose talent is not even in the same league as Cornell’s. The fact other teams’ gameplan is to play Cornell so aggressively gives you an idea of what they think of Cornell’s skill level. The breakout has been a disaster.

Vachon started the trouble with Locke that led to the 4x4. He pushed Locke down and then stayed on top of him. Locke may have grabbed him in retribution but Vachon was clearly the instigator.

we took 2 penalties in places we had no reason to take them and both led to goals and we continue to not score from good spots on the ice. the energy for large stretches was great we limited almost all the solid chances for Colgate but twice the rebounds went to uncovered guys and it went in.. our PP had that happen and as usual it didnt or we shot poorly or it just hopped over our sticks

a strange rut of 2 goal games..

and still we maintain 4th place..

BearLover

ugarte

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

the thing is, i don't care. i'm sure the teams we're losing to do that to all of their opponents but we're the team they manage to beat.

i'm not going to be a broken record about the structure our offense ... but i hate it! as a symbol of everything i hate about it, it's when we take what seems like 15 seconds on the power play to get the puck out from behind our net with because there's someone on the other side. nobody else does this!

I agree. Did these crap teams like Dartmouth, Princeton, Brown, and Colgate all of a sudden learn to clutch and grab? Is this the first year Cornell has endured injuries? Stop making excuses. This is the same team that tied Alaska (twice) and Brown early in the season when Cornell was at full strength. This team hasn’t been impressive the whole year. It’s a shame given where the program was pre-COVID, but it’s not there anymore. We were spoiled. Maybe next year.

I agree with Dafatone on the PK and with ugarte on the PP. I don’t see any other teams as passive on both the PK and PP as Cornell is. I can’t remember which recent opponent—it was Princeton, Dartmouth, or Brown, or some combination of them—but this opponent(s) was forechecking Cornell on 5x5 and aggressively chasing the puck carrier on the PK and Cornell had no answer for it. Maybe against Harvard, with their thirteen draft picks, you could imagine this happening. But Cornell literally couldn’t beat the forecheck or cleanly set up possession in the offensive zone on the PP against freaking P/D/B, whose talent is not even in the same league as Cornell’s. The fact other teams’ gameplan is to play Cornell so aggressively gives you an idea of what they think of Cornell’s skill level. The breakout has been a disaster.

This Cornell team gets outmuscled more than most. We're big, but we're young, or at least inexperienced. Plus a whole year off. So "weaker" teams that are lacking in skill players push us around.

Also feels like they're lacking a bit in morale lately. Hit a run, lack of veteran leadership because the veteran leaders left (I don't blame them. I blame COVID and the ivy league for waiting so long to extend eligibility). No coach goes a long way, too.

And we're not making adjustments to beat teams, but I think that comes down to coaching. Not a knock on Ben Syer, exactly, but I imagine a lot of the tactics boil down to "stay the course til Schafer gets back." Or maybe not, it's not like I really know what I'm talking about when it comes to hockey Xs and Os.

We all knew this was going to be a rebuilding sort of year. We've had some big wins and some big losses. Hopefully, the team gets healthy and ends the year strong.

BearLover

ugarte

Dafatone

Scersk '97
Dumb penalty by Malinski, and then the refs just swallowed the whistles. Incredible amounts of interference going on.

So very frustrating.

Complaining about the refs is a pretty standard thing, but oh man have they been iffy. Just clutch, grab, crosscheck to the back city these days.

the thing is, i don't care. i'm sure the teams we're losing to do that to all of their opponents but we're the team they manage to beat.

i'm not going to be a broken record about the structure our offense ... but i hate it! as a symbol of everything i hate about it, it's when we take what seems like 15 seconds on the power play to get the puck out from behind our net with because there's someone on the other side. nobody else does this!

I agree. Did these crap teams like Dartmouth, Princeton, Brown, and Colgate all of a sudden learn to clutch and grab? Is this the first year Cornell has endured injuries? Stop making excuses. This is the same team that tied Alaska (twice) and Brown early in the season when Cornell was at full strength. This team hasn’t been impressive the whole year. It’s a shame given where the program was pre-COVID, but it’s not there anymore. We were spoiled. Maybe next year...

At least against Alaska, Brown and Harvard I thought it was clear that we were by far the better team running into bad puck luck. The last few weeks of struggle we've shown flashes of how good we could be but mostly are fumbling the puck for no reason or trying to Kitty Pryde through the defense. Puck movement is aimless and every time it looks like we've actually maneuvered our way to an open man for a clean shot, the pass is offline enough (into the skates or to the backhand) that the puck can't be handled or one-timed cleanly. It's infuriating.

ugarte
At least against Alaska, Brown and Harvard I thought it was clear that we were by far the better team running into bad puck luck. The last few weeks of struggle we've shown flashes of how good we could be but mostly are fumbling the puck for no reason or trying to Kitty Pryde through the defense. Puck movement is aimless and every time it looks like we've actually maneuvered our way to an open man for a clean shot, the pass is offline enough (into the skates or to the backhand) that the puck can't be handled or one-timed cleanly. It's infuriating.

After a snap pass around the umbrella we do seem to wait for the opponent to regain possession of the lane before shooting because otherwise it wouldn't be sporting. And as somebody said during the game thread, Malinski has now reached Doug Murray levels of heavy but wild slappers.

Trotsky

ugarte
At least against Alaska, Brown and Harvard I thought it was clear that we were by far the better team running into bad puck luck. The last few weeks of struggle we've shown flashes of how good we could be but mostly are fumbling the puck for no reason or trying to Kitty Pryde through the defense. Puck movement is aimless and every time it looks like we've actually maneuvered our way to an open man for a clean shot, the pass is offline enough (into the skates or to the backhand) that the puck can't be handled or one-timed cleanly. It's infuriating.

After a snap pass around the umbrella we do seem to wait for the opponent to regain possession of the lane before shooting because otherwise it wouldn't be sporting. And as somebody said during the game thread, Malinski has now reached Doug Murray levels of heavy but wild slappers.

Our guys underneath don't do anything and we don't work to get the puck down low. Need more movement away from the puck and more movement of the puck high-low instead of around the umbrella.

Again, gotta stress that I don't actually know hockey strategy.

Wait 'till next year! [Details to follow}.