Recruits beyond 2020

Cornell picked up a commitment from 16-year old center Tyler Wishart from Westchester County. He was recently drafted in the 7th round of the USHL draft by Lincoln. Neutral Zone describes him this way: “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

scoop85
Cornell picked up a commitment from 16-year old center Tyler Wishart from Westchester County. He was recently drafted in the 7th round of the USHL draft by Lincoln. Neutral Zone describes him this way: “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Just what I like in a hockey player: "Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration".

>>> “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Is that another way of saying "small"?

billhoward
>>> “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Is that another way of saying "small"?

Oh, for a minute, I thought that read: "Topher".... Sorry.

billhoward
>>> “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Is that another way of saying "small"?

Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo

abmarks

billhoward
>>> “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Is that another way of saying "small"?

Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo

Waddaya wanna bet by the time he's 18 he's over 6' & 185?

Swampy

abmarks

billhoward
>>> “Speed. Speed. Speed with acceleration and the edges to get to the goal. Tyler played with tremendous pace. He can stop and start on a dime and his mobility and ability to make cuts make him tough to defend. He won almost every face-off and was setting the table for his teammates all game...Athletic, fast and dangerous with possession, he’s a D1 prospect and a good one.”

Is that another way of saying "small"?

Per websites he's 5'10 155 at 16yo

Waddaya wanna bet by the time he's 18 he's over 6' & 185?

And slower.

But he sounds fantastic. And who knows, he might get stronger and even faster.

Extremely proud and honored to announce my commitment to play college hockey at Cornell University. Beyond thankful to my teammates, coaches, and family for all their support during my journey. #BigRedFamily pic.twitter.com/yzLLshqKpK

— Ondrej Psenicka (@o_psenicka) December 2, 2020

At 19 he is listed at 6' 6" and 205 lbs. - hoping he can skate like other bigger guys we have seen last couple of years. LGR

Ondrej Psenicka will be our third Czech and our first from Prague.

Jiri Kloboucek (1996), Dubi
Dan Svoboda (2001), Benesov

And he's on the Czech U20 national team.

But it looks like he's a checking forward. 6G, 12A in 43 games with Waterloo last year. C rated speed by NHL Central Scouting according to his profile on Waterloo's webpage.

C rated by NHL Central Scouting means he projects as a late round NHL draft pick. He was a big scorer prior to his year with Waterloo. Seems to be an intriguing prospect. Can’t wait to see him in Lynah.

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
[www.ondrejpsenicka.com]

abmarks

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
[www.ondrejpsenicka.com]

He's cute, too.

Nice socks.

abmarks

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
[www.ondrejpsenicka.com]

Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.

French Rage

abmarks

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
[www.ondrejpsenicka.com]

Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.

pretty sure I misdirected to the next level. don't think it's the same guy

abmarks

French Rage

abmarks

French Rage

Jeff Hopkins '82
But it looks like he's a checking forward.

AND A CZECHING FORWARD!

I'll see myself out.

i don't know about that. seems he's more the guy who could make the puck appear out of thin air. just look at the highlight videos on his personal website... I mean, never had one like this before...
[www.ondrejpsenicka.com]

Hey, misdirection is misdirection. I have no problem recruiting a magician.

pretty sure I misdirected to the next level. don't think it's the same guy

Considering that the magician "left business school in 2005 to pursue his love of magic full time", no, he's probably not the same person as the Czech under-20 hockey player.

JESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT

French Rage
JESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT

I'm going back in time with my bit. rewinding.

Damn, wonder if the team can get hockey stockings made to match his funky socks. would make a great third alternative un i

French Rage
JESUS PEOPLE I KNOW LET'S JUST RUN WITH THE BIT

eLynah is not, as a rule, a good place for comedy.

I'm making magician jokes every time he does something good. Maybe even if he does something bad.

And here I thought Czeching forward would be the best we could do on this.

Ironically Cornell lacrosse backup faceoff guy Mitch Rothstein happens to be an accomplished magician.

Trotsky
Ondrej Psenicka will be our third Czech and our first from Prague.
Jiri Kloboucek (1996), Dubi
Dan Svoboda (2001), Benesov

And the second Cornell player whose jersey on the back includes a pronunciation guide, at least freshman year.

Dan Svoboda is close enough to "Ron Swoboda."

Maybe before the Juniors, he went through a Harry Potter phase and there was a time warp.

Excited and honored to announce my commitment to Cornell University. I want to thank my family, friends, and coaches who have helped me along the way! #GoBigRed pic.twitter.com/upnCNpttHF

— Remington Keopple (@remi_keopple1) December 24, 2020

He's a goalie who plays for Des Moines in the USHL.

He's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.

dbilmes
He's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.

likely one of the first from Wisconsin as well. [www.eliteprospects.com] has him as a 22-23 commit

can we get a pronunciation guide oh keopple

dbilmes
He's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.

He is.

abmarks

dbilmes
He's probably the first player named Remington we've had in the program.

likely one of the first from Wisconsin as well. [www.eliteprospects.com] has him as a 22-23 commit

2nd.

Evan Salmela '07 (Whitefish Bay)

Unfortunately Ondrej Psenicka was one of the last 3 cuts from the Czech junior team so we won’t get to see him in the World Junior tournament beginning today

New recruit, Ben Robertson. A defenseman from Virginia, he plays for the powerhouse Mount Charles Academy program in Rhode Island. He’s on their U16 team so it will be awhile before he makes it to Ithaca. His Twitter profile shows he’s an Omaha Lancers prospect in the USHL.

I am extremely proud and honored to announce my commitment to play division 1 college hockey at Cornell University. Thanks to my family, coaches, and teammates who have helped me along the way. #GoBigRed pic.twitter.com/LYYAsSTvy4

— Ben Robertson (@BenRobertson04) January 4, 2021

Stanstead College is extremely proud to announce that 2004 born, Grade 11 D man Liam Steele (Surrey, United Kingdom) has committed to Cornell University. Congrats Liam on this accomplishment. We look forward to continuing to help you develop.
#ivy #yellcornell #BigRed pic.twitter.com/Gl3sldfQk8

— Matthew Thompson (@mthompsSC) January 4, 2021

?s=19

blackwidow

Stanstead College is extremely proud to announce that 2004 born, Grade 11 D man Liam Steele (Surrey, United Kingdom) has committed to Cornell University. Congrats Liam on this accomplishment. We look forward to continuing to help you develop.
#ivy #yellcornell #BigRed pic.twitter.com/Gl3sldfQk8

— Matthew Thompson (@mthompsSC) January 4, 2021

?s=19

A Brit! So would this be our first recruit from the UK (paging Trotsky)?

EDIT: I see the legendary Pete Wheelright who arrived in Ithaca in 1959 is listed on TBRW as being from the UK

6'4", 205# D-man. Right up Schafer's alley.

He's from Cobham, which is just up the road from Guildford where there's a professional team in the EIHL. Wonder if there's a connection?

Dog gone going!

Schafer talks about the challenge of recruiting during a pandemic. It can't be easy.

he fact the ivies didnt offer sports can be seen as a lack of commitment or viewed as even more of a commitment to the kids.

The IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight Pathetic. One minute it's follow the science and the next breath they shut everything down. If they really cared about student health and well being they would be closed to in person instruction. They know that there are large gatherings on/off campus but since they need the influx of revenue they are willing to take that risk. But somehow athletic competition is different to them.

Cop at Lynah
The IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight

It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.

Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.

Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.

It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.

Trotsky

Cop at Lynah
The IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight

It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.

Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.

Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.

It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.

Why do you believe that their decisions on athletics are based on maximizing revenue?

Roy 82

Trotsky

Cop at Lynah
The IVY Presidents are so ideologically challenged they can't get their shit straight

It's not "ideology." A slot machine does not have an ideology.

Their only job, until such time as they are replaced by robots, is to make sure derpy parents and derpier donors keep pressing the PAY bar that dispenses the Ivy smugness pellets.

Everything else is just a means to do that more effectively.

It's not politics. It's just business Sonny.

Why do you believe that their decisions on athletics are based on maximizing revenue?

It's not exactly revenue. Money is only a crass and arbitrary scorekeeping device.

It's brand. The Ivies live or die by maintaining a magical moat between them and the others. It's a guild system -- you pull up the draw bridge and create entry barriers. You deny equal footing to others by fiat. You protect your discriminator -- your label.

Ivies need to behave differently. Banning "athletic scholarships" (while having operational equivalents in place) is one marketing tactic. Not playing is (fortunately) another.

HYP can survive competing head-to-head with anybody else because of endowment and the momentum of a hundred years of class prestige and because, annoyingly, they still deliver the goods. The other five have to maintain the gated community or be overwhelmed by dozens of competitors.

Why? Christ, man, what do you want from me?

Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

Congrats to @U16AAABlues forward Tyler Catalano on his commitment to Cornell University! Way to go Tyler! #stl #aaablues #heartlandofhockey pic.twitter.com/6ZQYgWIDAU

— St. Louis AAA Blues (@AAABlues) March 17, 2021

Trotsky
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

Congrats to @U16AAABlues forward Tyler Catalano on his commitment to Cornell University! Way to go Tyler! #stl #aaablues #heartlandofhockey pic.twitter.com/6ZQYgWIDAU

— St. Louis AAA Blues (@AAABlues) March 17, 2021

2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year’s futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.

Trotsky is right. It IS the brand, which includes a whole lot more than cash-in-hand or a winning hockey team. The Ivy League did a fine job of protecting the Ivy League brand, and protecting students in the process.

scoop85

Trotsky
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

Congrats to @U16AAABlues forward Tyler Catalano on his commitment to Cornell University! Way to go Tyler! #stl #aaablues #heartlandofhockey pic.twitter.com/6ZQYgWIDAU

— St. Louis AAA Blues (@AAABlues) March 17, 2021

2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year’s futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.

6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85

Trotsky
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year’s futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.

6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.

He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85

Trotsky
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year’s futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.

6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.

He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?

According to Elite Prospects, he's 17 now (DOB Feb. 24, 2004)

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85

Trotsky
Power forward Tyler Catalano. Looks like Elite Prospects finally went to a pay wall so I can't find much else.

2nd round pick of the USHL Youngstown team in last year’s futures draft, and was drafted by Windsor of the OHL. Big kid. Looks like an excellent pickup.

6'4" and 201 lbs. Our kind of guy.

He's on a U16 team, can he really be that big and 15?

According to Elite Prospects, he's 17 now (DOB Feb. 24, 2004)

Shrimp.

We have a fair number of commitments now.

Trotsky
We have a fair number of commitments now.

According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.

Wonder how tall this kid is gonna get given hi current height. 6'6?

abmarks

Trotsky
We have a fair number of commitments now.

According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.

It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.

Trotsky

abmarks

Trotsky
We have a fair number of commitments now.

According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.

It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.

Even if true that they were 13, I have to think that they would be a bit of cherry picking and some of those folks would get deferred or commitments dropped

That list of 13 includes the 4 freshmen who entered in the fall of 2020

abmarks

Trotsky

abmarks

Trotsky
We have a fair number of commitments now.

According to that link...13 for 2021 arrival? That'll be interesting.

It's what I have pieced together from different sources, but nobody knows. I mean, nobody actually knows if there will even be a '22 season, though for the first time in a year I have some confidence.

Even if true that they were 13, I have to think that they would be a bit of cherry picking and some of those folks would get deferred or commitments dropped

They may need 13, though. How many returning players are actually going to be left?

Hell, they may need 18.

The first season back, whenever that is, is going to be the closest we will ever see to a random draft.

There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Cornell sees a jump in cases. [cornellsun.com]

Sun
About half of these cases are tied to first-year students living on North Campus, Pollack wrote. Many of the cases are also linked to transmission from Greek life organizations, athletic teams, parties and travel outside of Ithaca. [emphasis added]

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.

If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.

It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).

tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.

Trotsky

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.

If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.

It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).

tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.

Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...

Trotsky

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.

If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.

It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).

tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.

Speaking of Darwin, here’s a scene from spring break in Florida. Yeah, we may be fucked.

Florida has defeated Coronavirus.

Apparently.

Let’s play “spot the mask”... pic.twitter.com/5QtXb7AniJ

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) March 20, 2021

scoop85
Speaking of Darwin, here’s a scene from spring break in Florida.

"Every MAGA is a moron, but not every moron is a MAGA."

Darwin never rests. He's constantly thinning out the smug and the feeble-minded - but it's like whack-a-mole.

Beeeej

Trotsky

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.

If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.

It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).

tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.

Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...

Not really. No kids under 16 vaccinated and I think that's around 20% of population. Throw in that 50% of Republican males say they won't get it, and somewhat lower for females, those get you at least down another 10-15%. So there you have 30-35% unvaccinated and doesn't count the number of others who say no.

What we don't know is how many of unvaccinated were infected and have some immunity. I say some as it looks like imunity from the vaccines is better than prior infection.

So depending upon what % is needed for Herd effects, we probably won't be there till kids get immunized. That may start for older, 12-16, before the end of the year, but younger kids probably next year. Kids don't get as sick, but can still transmit and they are hosts that can lead to more variants.

If we keep this going, here and abroad, the concern is a variant that is vaccine resistant.

The only good thing about the varriant possibility is that the mRNA vaccines can be adjusted very quickly to cover variants, but it would mean getting everyone vaccinated again.

And get used to wearing masks. Even if we open up for spectators, you may go to a game wearing a mask.

Jim Hyla

Beeeej

Trotsky

ugarte
There is going to be an Ivy season next year. Sports around the country was janky but by and large they made it work. I think the Ivies did the right thing but by next year there will be very limited appetite for opting out of everything again. I don't know if that's good or bad but it's what it will be.

Depends what happens. If we get smarter and maintain lockdown and masks and social distancing through summer then we'll be through it and we can open safely.

If we... well, if we do what you know we will do, and rush to reopen, then there could be an enormous wave and we'll be right back to lockdown and another lost season.

It all comes down to the intelligence of the public (uh oh) and the bravery of the officials who have to institute unpopular policies (uh oh).

tl; dr: we're most likely fucked. Hopefully we see a Darwinian effect down the line.

Oughtn't we be somewhere close to herd immunity in the U.S. by the fall semester if the more recent vaccination plans pan out? That's not to say that stupid people can't screw that up, but...

Not really. No kids under 16 vaccinated and I think that's around 20% of population. Throw in that 50% of Republican males say they won't get it, and somewhat lower for females, those get you at least down another 10-15%. So there you have 30-35% unvaccinated and doesn't count the number of others who say no.

What we don't know is how many of unvaccinated were infected and have some immunity. I say some as it looks like imunity from the vaccines is better than prior infection.

So depending upon what % is needed for Herd effects, we probably won't be there till kids get immunized. That may start for older, 12-16, before the end of the year, but younger kids probably next year. Kids don't get as sick, but can still transmit and they are hosts that can lead to more variants.

If we keep this going, here and abroad, the concern is a variant that is vaccine resistant.

The only good thing about the variant possibility is that the mRNA vaccines can be adjusted very quickly to cover variants, but it would mean getting everyone vaccinated again.

And get used to wearing masks. Even if we open up for spectators, you may go to a game wearing a mask.

Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.

IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.

I have a right to refuse a Covid vaccination because I don't want it, and along with that right comes my right to infect others wth Covid and destroy any hope of herd immunity. That goes for hockey teams too.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.

IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.

Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.

Al DeFlorio

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.

IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.

Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.

Hopefully it can just be added to the annual flu shot.

1. Won't any boosters have to be matched to the original vaccine?
2. More important than herd immunity, isn't the bigger issue mutations? As long as there are enough morons, won't the virus find lots of hosts in which to mutate?

ursusminor

Al DeFlorio

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.

IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.

Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.

Hopefully it can just be added to the annual flu shot.

Al DeFlorio

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not to mention that these higher transmissibility variants means a higher percentage vaccinated required for herd immunity.

IMO, I think we're going to be dealing with "boosters" for a while, too.

Just read on a cruise forum that the UK is planning on doing annual shots a la the standard flu shot.

Didn't know you were a swinger

Jim of course is spot on, plus the issue of variants.

Here's my question though. Everybody in the hockey program is over 16. They will be plenty of shots available come fall... So why don't we and the league just mandate vaccination for participation by the players as well as the coaching staff.

Even if we're not at herd immunity it seems to me that would be sufficient to let the kids play. Jim, any reason that might not work?

its gonna be required to get a shot to go to school if the school gets their way.. shots are gonna be available by May the way things look now in NY.. I think the opt out rate by college kids will be way lower than for an avg person.

abmarks
Here's my question though. Everybody in the hockey program is over 16. They will be plenty of shots available come fall... So why don't we and the league just mandate vaccination for participation by the players as well as the coaching staff.

According to the NYS COVID website those now eligible include “Not-for-profit workers who provide public-facing services to New Yorkers in need.” I live in Rochester and need Big Red hockey!

I don't see any reason that immunized hockey teams, including everyone associated withe the team, facilities, etc., wouldn't be safe to play.

Unfortunately fans are a different subject. It'll be interesting to see what happens with concerts this summer, as some are getting going.

In regards to yearly COVID boosters, I think it's almost guaranteed. Much of the third world has not really been able to get started with vaccinations, and that might take well into 2022 or even longer.

The comment that the longer we let the virus be around, the greater the chance of bad variants, is spot on. If one of the current variants gets changed a little more, it's likely to be at least more resistant to the current vaccines. So boom you are starting all over. Better to give a yearly booster to cover the known bad variants. COVID will likely be with us for many more years. We'll control it, but not eliminate it.

Regarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.

Jim Hyla
I don't see any reason that immunized hockey teams, including everyone associated withe the team, facilities, etc., wouldn't be safe to play.

Unfortunately fans are a different subject. It'll be interesting to see what happens with concerts this summer, as some are getting going.

In regards to yearly COVID boosters, I think it's almost guaranteed. Much of the third world has not really been able to get started with vaccinations, and that might take well into 2022 or even longer.

The comment that the longer we let the virus be around, the greater the chance of bad variants, is spot on. If one of the current variants gets changed a little more, it's likely to be at least more resistant to the current vaccines. So boom you are starting all over. Better to give a yearly booster to cover the known bad variants. COVID will likely be with us for many more years. We'll control it, but not eliminate it.

Regarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.

I heard today Vietnam is asking the world for help obtaining vaccines. They need 150 M and only have 1 M. Without vaccines, that'd be one hot incubator for mutations. Uncle Ho's revenge.

Frankly, I don't understand why pundits and pols aren't making this point more forcefully. As long as the virus is running free, in Vietnam or Texas, we're playing with a ticking time bomb.

Jim Hyla
Regarding combined boosters for flu and COVID, I doubt it, at least for next year. You may well want to get your booster from the same manufacturer. If so that basically eliminates combinations. Even if that's not true, and there are current trials of getting your first shot from one manufacturer and second from another, the storing conditions for flu and COVID are certainly different for the mRNA. Also they'd have to do studies on people to at least show that you get good antibody levels with a combined vaccine. Then you have to have a facility to combine them. It seems for now that we should put our efforts to vaccinate the world and see about appropriate boosters. Then when things are more relaxed, we can look to solve the combination problem.

Good point about manufacturers being different making it unlikely that the flu and COVID shots can be combined at least initially. The advantage of two shots is that I get my shots the pharmacy inside a nearby Safeway supermarket which gives me a coupon for 10% off on a grocery purchase, and with separate shots given on different days, I will get two coupons.

this is one reason better testing needs to happen.. if you cant contain it with shots you have to have a method to track it and stop it from spreading. there was a ton of energy around that early with all kinds of ideas but very little has actually been created.. blood test, spit test, breathe test. need something faster and reproducible to slow the spread.

I knew that his name sounded familiar. Because he is on the same team as RPI recruit Tyler Hotson, I noticed that Mike Suda is in the PBHHInvitational Tourney. His page [gamesheet.app]. The tourney is supposedly designed to allow OHL players who didn't play all year to be seen by NHL scouts.


BTW, P, B, H, and H are the first letters of the last names of four people involved in the tourney.

ursusminor
BTW, P, B, H, and H are the first letters of the last names of four people involved in the tourney.

President Benjamin Harrison Home.

Actually, quite sweet.



This is how you do a staircase:

Nope. Try Andrew Perrott, Ryan Beck, Ryan Humphrey, and Brendan Hoffmann. [www.goerie.com]

Future Red recruits Luke Devlin, Ben Robertson and Tyler Catalano all advanced to the final phase of the USA Hockey U17 tryouts for the Hlinka - Gretzky Cup. 40 players remain in the running to be selected for the team that will represent the US in the Czech Republic and Slovakia in August. This after a preliminary round robin tournament consisting of over 180 of the best ‘04’s in the country. There are two scrimmages tomorrow and one on Wednesday to get down to the one team to compete overseas. Best of luck to these young men - if they make this team it would be a great experience for them. Very excited about the state of Cornell Hockey recruiting both with the men’s and women’s teams. Stick taps to the coaching staff who identify and recruit outstanding hockey players and even more importantly, good people!

Redpucks1!
Future Red recruits Luke Devlin, Ben Robertson and Tyler Catalano all advanced to the final phase of the USA Hockey U17 tryouts for the Hlinka - Gretzky Cup. 40 players remain in the running to be selected for the team that will represent the US in the Czech Republic and Slovakia in August. This after a preliminary round robin tournament consisting of over 180 of the best ‘04’s in the country. There are two scrimmages tomorrow and one on Wednesday to get down to the one team to compete overseas. Best of luck to these young men - if they make this team it would be a great experience for them. Very excited about the state of Cornell Hockey recruiting both with the men’s and women’s teams. Stick taps to the coaching staff who identify and recruit outstanding hockey players and even more importantly, good people!

Only two make the final roster: Luke Devlin and Sean Schmidt.

Please don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.

osorojo
Please don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.

What is this word profits you are saying?

billhoward

osorojo
Please don't allude to the attendance/revenue a top-notch hockey recruit might generate for Cornell. That might result in an investigation into how Ivy League schools report their profits from their athletic programs.

What is this word profits you are saying?

He meant prophets and we also claim the religious exemption.

Any Cornellians likely to go in the Draft?

2 Cornell recruits are ranked by NHL Central Scouting - Justin Ertel is ranked #150 (NA skaters) & Remington Keopple is ranked #19 (NA goalies).

Thanks.

That goalie rank seems really good, I wonder how it compares with our prior goalies.

Ertel is likely to be drafted anywhere from the 5th to 7th rounds. Not sure if Keopple will be picked.

Harvard, as has been the norm lately, has a number of guys who will be drafted, including Matthew Coronato who will almost certainly be a 1st rounder. If it weren't for COVID Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum), would've been going into his sophomore year at Harvard. When the Ivies seem destined to be canceling their season last year he decided to go to Michigan.

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

Somebody done fucked up.

Trotsky

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

Somebody done fucked up.

Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.

Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.’s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey

Why cant we get a decent number of NHL draft picks :'(

scoop85

Trotsky

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

Somebody done fucked up.

Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.

Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.’s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey

Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.

ursusminor

scoop85

Trotsky

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

Somebody done fucked up.

Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.

Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.’s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey

Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.

He was committed to Harvard last year and only switched to Michigan late last summer when it became apparent the Ivies were likely not playing hockey last season.

ursusminor

scoop85

Trotsky

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

Somebody done fucked up.

Ian Moore, who was a 3rd round pick of Anaheim last year and is going to Harvard this year, is also son of a Cornell alum, who happened to be my fraternity brother.

Both Moore and Berniers are Massachusetts kids. Even with the Cornell legacy, it must be hard to get those kids to leave Boston when they can play near family at the U.S.’s most prestigious university in a great city for college hockey

Berniers is going to Michigan. Not exactly near Boston.

Thanks. I'm sure that I saw that, but I certainly don't recall it. BTW, it is amazing that 4 of the top 5 picks and one more in the first round are either Michigan players or commitments.

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

In an interview during the draft last night, Ron Francis, Seattle GM, mentioned that Beniers comes from a highly academic family with both his parents majoring in engineering at Cornell.
Francis's daughter is also a Cornellian, so he obviously thinks highly of Cornell. While his daughter was in school and he was Carolina GM, he saw the Big Red play several times, which resulted in his trading for the draft rights to Riley Nash.

Red recruit Justin Ertel picked in the 3rd round (#79) by Dallas Stars

Does C.U.encourage and fund athletic programs to attract academic talent? I am ignorant of the correlation between the the two. Maybe a crossover between academic and athletic donors is the key to this conundrum.

jkahn

scoop85
Matt Berniers, who's likely to be the 2nd pick (and is the son of a Cornell football alum)

In an interview during the draft last night, Ron Francis, Seattle GM, mentioned that Beniers comes from a highly academic family with both his parents majoring in engineering at Cornell.
Francis's daughter is also a Cornellian, so he obviously thinks highly of Cornell. While his daughter was in school and he was Carolina GM, he saw the Big Red play several times, which resulted in his trading for the draft rights to Riley Nash.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if having an all-Cornell family was a bit of a turnoff for some recruits.

Yeah, go to Hahvahd just to stick it to Mom and Dad......