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2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed

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2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: September 10, 2020 02:58PM

Not that we didn't pretty much know before, but now it's official. All the conferences jointly made the decision to delay, and each individual conference will announce its own plans for the season.

 
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Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2020 02:59PM by Beeeej.

 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: September 10, 2020 05:48PM

delay and see how fball/testing/vaccine is coming end of oct, we started so much later anyway it wont change our prep much
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 10, 2020 05:49PM

"NC$$ announces they abdicate all responsibility in a difficult to read font."
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: French Rage (104.129.202.---)
Date: September 10, 2020 08:09PM

It figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.

 
___________________________
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: The Rancor (73.93.143.---)
Date: September 10, 2020 10:25PM

French Rage
It figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.

But we still have The Belt!
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: September 11, 2020 04:24AM

Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 11, 2020 08:40AM

French Rage
It figures we get to #1 and then the sport ceased to exist.
I mean, "champions for eternity" has a nice ring to it?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: FLHockeyMom (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 08:16AM

Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2020 08:17AM by FLHockeyMom.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 12, 2020 09:51AM

Professional educators, athletic directors and college coaches got us into this mess. What we need is some investors and politicians to dictate college hockey schedules and policies.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 10:12AM

FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: FLHockeyMom (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 10:58AM

ugarte
FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?

[www.uscho.com]
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 03:47PM

osorojo
Professional educators, athletic directors and college coaches got us into this mess. What we need is some investors and politicians to dictate college hockey schedules and policies.
"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: September 12, 2020 07:51PM

"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."

Hey, look around. Running the country like a business worked GREAT for the U.S.A. - why not college hockey?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: toddlose (76.117.252.---)
Date: September 12, 2020 09:38PM

osorojo
"Run everything like a bidness hurr durr."

Hey, look around. Running the country like a business worked GREAT for the U.S.A. - why not college hockey?[
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2020 09:39PM by toddlose.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 10:11PM

FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:


Assume that the ncaa is allowing them to play juniors and then come back to ncaa?

From a fan perspective, I hope as many of our guys that have this option take it.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: September 12, 2020 10:18PM

FLHockeyMom
ugarte
FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?

[www.uscho.com]

"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."

Also,

"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.

"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."



Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.sub-174-204-142.myvzw.com)
Date: September 13, 2020 01:00AM

abmarks
FLHockeyMom
ugarte
FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?

[www.uscho.com]

"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."

Also,

"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.

"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."



Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?
thx

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: September 21, 2020 07:45AM

Here's the teams announcement.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 21, 2020 02:01PM

Jim Hyla
Here's the teams announcement.

Money shot:

The West Kelowna Junior ‘A’ Hockey Club is excited to announce forward Matthew Stienburg(‘00) will join the Warriors until the Cornell season restarts. The commitment comes with the news that NCAA Ivy League will not be running their hockey programs until after the first semester. Matt is still enrolled in Cornell and will be attending classes online during his short time with the Warriors.

Saul Goodman.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/21/2020 02:03PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 15, 2020 10:30PM

abmarks
FLHockeyMom
ugarte
FLHockeyMom
Juniors-eligible player Stienburg likely taking advantage of the new NCAA rules:
what's the rule change? it stops the eligibility clock?

[www.uscho.com]

"For the 2020-21 academic year, prospective student-athletes who turn 21 years old during the season (i.e., early 2000 birthdates) will not lose a year of Division I eligibility if they play a junior hockey game after their birthday. Typically, those players would have to enroll full-time in a post-secondary institution in order to retain their four years of Division I eligibility."

Also,

"Current student-athletes whose institutions will not be playing hockey during the fall semester will be permitted to participate in non-collegiate, amateur competition i.e. junior hockey on an outside team during the fall 2020 term (subject to school and conference approval). These student-athletes may compete on an outside team while remaining enrolled in their NCAA institution, which typically would not be allowed.

"An institution or conference may not provide expenses for such competition and the student-athlete must be in good academic standing. A student-athlete who remains enrolled at the institution may not miss class to participate in outside competition. All competition should adhere to federal, state, local and other applicable guidelines related to COVID-19."



Those are the changes listed in the article that are relevant. If I read those right, stienbirg will have to still be enrolled and taking classes, which the online class situation will let him do?

All players now get extra year. I assume the ivy rules will still apply. [collegehockeyinc.com]

 
___________________________
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 16, 2020 12:07PM

I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 16, 2020 01:12PM

upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now
I'm surprised. I always thought they were trying to Mini Me the ECAC.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: French Rage (104.129.202.---)
Date: October 16, 2020 03:03PM

upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now

But when do real teams start? :P

 
___________________________
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: October 16, 2020 04:48PM

French Rage
upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now

But when do real teams start? :P

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 16, 2020 05:59PM

so 10 games over 21 days ? that seems like a lot?

most of the ecac could play games from mid Dec to mid Jan with few kids around and testing.. but a bubble might work too.. play 3 games someplace over a week and do it couple times..
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: October 17, 2020 07:36AM

abmarks
French Rage
upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now

But when do real teams start? :P

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.

Other than that, we don't matter.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: October 17, 2020 03:01PM

Jim Hyla
abmarks
French Rage
upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now

But when do real teams start? :P

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.

Other than that, we don't matter.

That begs a question I've been meaning to ask, since I can't figure out any obvious answer. Why are schools going out of there way to play sports when probably everything except power conference men's hoop and football are going to cost even more to run under covid than before without any care revenues at all to somewhat reduce the costs?

IDK, maybe it's no different than pre-covid?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: October 17, 2020 11:01PM

Looks like Ivy hoops is in jeopardy, which doesn’t bode well for other Ivy winter sports.

?s=21
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 18, 2020 12:29AM

the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]

 

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2020 12:29AM by ugarte.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 18, 2020 12:35AM

ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 18, 2020 10:07AM

if its like cornell. people taking classes virtually dont count against the dashboard.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: October 18, 2020 02:12PM

Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?
well, it's just one elephant walk

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: October 18, 2020 03:43PM

Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

The faces of the administration for letting students back on campus?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: October 18, 2020 11:39PM

Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

TFIR is the new TBRW.

 
___________________________
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 19, 2020 10:00AM

French Rage
Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

TFIR is the new TBRW.
That's... actually brilliant.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: October 20, 2020 08:11AM

Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 20, 2020 08:57AM

Don't believe any nonsense about "herd immunity" or how it will protect hockey teams. If you or a hockey team are worried about being infected by Covid 19 you/they should immediately see your favorite politician for advice and treatment.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: October 20, 2020 10:32AM

Jim Hyla
Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".
Or, better still, "herd mentality." Mooooo.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 20, 2020 01:05PM

Al DeFlorio
Jim Hyla
Trotsky
ugarte
the entire yale men's hockey team has covid [yaledailynews.com]
18 positives is yellow?

The fuck is red?

Now at least the team may have "herd immunity".
Or, better still, "herd mentality." Mooooo.
"We are all individuals..."
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: October 21, 2020 07:48AM

abmarks
Jim Hyla
abmarks
French Rage
upprdeck
I see Atlantic Hockey might start as soon as Nov 13 now

But when do real teams start? :P

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

It tells about the time in which we're living that the only mention of fans was after they said that all NCHC games will be on NCHC.tv.

Other than that, we don't matter.

That begs a question I've been meaning to ask, since I can't figure out any obvious answer. Why are schools going out of there way to play sports when probably everything except power conference men's hoop and football are going to cost even more to run under covid than before without any care revenues at all to somewhat reduce the costs?

IDK, maybe it's no different than pre-covid?

I understand why professional sports, even those very dependent on fans like European hockey, are trying to play however they can this year, since if they skip a whole season they might not come back. But most college sports could take the year off (from games at least) and then start up again in 2021-2022. It's an interruption for the student athletes, but then no college student(*) is having a typical college experience this year, whether their campus is open or not.

(*) Except the ones I'm teaching, who were mostly taking their courses online already anyway.

 
___________________________
JTW

Enjoy the latest hockey geek tools at [www.elynah.com]
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: profudge (---.nrwc.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: October 23, 2020 12:36PM

Mike had a ZOOM call last night with about 80 folks season ticket holders and CHA folks ... Made me want hockey back soon GBR!

But no new news at this time. Hoping they can start a season in January but unclear yet on situation or how.

 
___________________________
- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: October 23, 2020 03:04PM

The men's team now has captains. Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: October 23, 2020 06:54PM

.
ACM
The men's team now has captains. Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.

Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 23, 2020 07:03PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
.
ACM
The men's team now has captains. Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.

Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
26 short of Hahvahd.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: October 24, 2020 05:43AM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
.
ACM
The men's team now has captains. Let's hope they'll get to wear their letters in actual games.

Interesting that they'll have three "A's"
26 short of Hahvahd.

I knew when I posted it, there was a Hahvard joke in there.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 24, 2020 01:20PM

Never engage in a conversation with a Haahvaard fan who has been feasting on garlic knots!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2020 01:21PM by osorojo.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 26, 2020 12:20PM

WOW! Cornell Men's hockey just dropped from first to sixth place without even a scrimmage, let alone a game. These new computer programs are AWESOME!
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 26, 2020 04:37PM

osorojo
WOW! Cornell Men's hockey just dropped from first to sixth place without even a scrimmage, let alone a game. These new computer programs are AWESOME!


 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: profudge (172.77.9.---)
Date: October 28, 2020 04:30PM

Tangentially related only:
WBNG News
The American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.

 
___________________________
- Lou (Swarthmore MotherPucker 69-74, Stowe Slugs78-82, Hanover Storm Kings 83-85...) Big Red Fan since the 70's
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 28, 2020 04:47PM

profudge
Tangentially related only:
WBNG News
The American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.
I hope they misspelled 2022.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: October 29, 2020 11:12AM

Now the 2020 - 2021 season starts in 2021?! That appears to violate our traditional concept of time, or the definition of the verb "starts"? Or maybe it's just Orwellian "newspeak" jumping over from politics to athletics.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: October 29, 2020 04:13PM

dont alot of sports start in the spring? Lax 20-21 always started in 2021..
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 29, 2020 06:27PM

osorojo
That appears to violate our traditional concept of time,
It's all been shit since McTaggart.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: October 29, 2020 09:23PM

profudge
Tangentially related only:
WBNG News
The American Hockey League announced Wednesday the targeted start date for the 2020-21 season is now February 5, 2021.
No details yet.

There probably won't be any details in February either.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 11, 2020 04:57PM

Cornell to host a Zoom webinar tomorrow evening on the subject "Calling an Audible – How College Athletics & Sports Programming have adapted to changing times." Must register in advance, at the link below.

Speakers:

• Jimmy Pitaro HumEc ‘91, Chairman, ESPN and Sports Content
• Moderator, Corinne Patten ’92, CALS (Dyson), Women’s Soccer, PepsiCo- Vice President National Account Sales
• Rob Ferguson, Head Coach, Cornell Women’s Soccer
• Jonathan Plass AAP ’22, Men’s Track & Field. Home state: Pennsylvania
• Margaret Owen A&S ‘21, Senior, Women’s Rowing, Captain. Home state: Connecticut

[cornell.zoom.us]

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 12, 2020 07:41PM

CANCELLED !!!
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: November 12, 2020 07:47PM

Cop at Lynah
CANCELLED !!!

Yep. Just saw it at Inquirer.com

It sucks, but I can't say it wasn't expected.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Ninian 72 (---.dia.static.centurylink.net)
Date: November 12, 2020 07:58PM

Ivy League announced today that winter season is cancelled for all sports:

[cornellbigred.com]

Good luck to the rest of the ECAC for cobbling together a season. Guessing they won't be far behind in opting out.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/12/2020 08:01PM by Ninian 72.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: November 13, 2020 07:01AM

I suspect that only RPI and Union will follow. The other four have released something.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: CU2007 (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 19, 2020 12:28PM

Will be interesting to see if there is any change to the Lynah atmosphere due to an entire missed season. Assuming an equal distribution by class (probably not the case) a full half of the student section will have never been to a game next season as opposed to the usual 25%. Have to think there’s a learning curve for the cheers and all that. Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 19, 2020 12:58PM

CU2007
Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.

I hardly think students will be concerned about this once we get past the pandemic.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 19, 2020 01:51PM

CU2007
Will be interesting to see if there is any change to the Lynah atmosphere due to an entire missed season. Assuming an equal distribution by class (probably not the case) a full half of the student section will have never been to a game next season as opposed to the usual 25%. Have to think there’s a learning curve for the cheers and all that. Still others may not be warm to the idea of being crammed into a student section even if these vaccines prove effective.
OTOH maybe we can use this break to untrain the next batch of students in some of the worse crap that has accumulated. A Constitutional Amendment prohibiting remote control goaltender, for example.

Some new things are good. Some need to, so to speak, diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/19/2020 01:52PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: jts15 (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 19, 2020 01:51PM

Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: November 20, 2020 08:38AM

jts15
Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.

SCHITT!!!
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 20, 2020 08:47AM

redice
jts15
Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.

SCHITT!!!

Well, assuming he’s graduating this year he couldn’t play at Cornell next year anyway.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 20, 2020 11:06AM

It's definitely going down in the Ow My Balls Hall of Fame that Mike built a national championship caliber squad, only to see a once-per-century event melt it away.

But it's a fucking game and this is health and life.


 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: pfibiger (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: November 20, 2020 08:53PM

jts15
Galajda is in the transfer portal according to this tweet.

Donaldson and Mullin in the transfer portal too.

 
___________________________
Phil Fibiger '01
[www.fibiger.org]
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 21, 2020 03:56PM

scoop85
Well, assuming he’s graduating this year he couldn’t play at Cornell next year anyway.

Why the Ivy League couldn't suspend this particular rule is just beyond me. It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year. In just this one, absolutely unique situation, what could possibly be the harm!

Argh! Let it go, Scersk. Let it go.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: November 21, 2020 04:30PM

Scersk '97
scoop85
Well, assuming he’s graduating this year he couldn’t play at Cornell next year anyway.

Why the Ivy League couldn't suspend this particular rule is just beyond me. It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year. In just this one, absolutely unique situation, what could possibly be the harm!

Argh! Let it go, Scersk. Let it go.

What is the harm in kicking it altogether? Why encourage athletes to play for another school?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 21, 2020 04:39PM

It's almost as if a pathetic cartel of long overrated, obsolete, privileged children of wealthy idiots is desperately maintaining arbitrary discriminators to bolster their fading branding, while the flop sweat of failsons drains into Cayuga's waters.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 21, 2020 09:09PM

Scersk '97
It's not like any grad program in the Ivies is going to just keep some athlete around so he or she can play one more year.
ha ha ha

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Troyfan (---.columbus.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2020 09:42AM

Big East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.

I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.

Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 22, 2020 11:19AM

Troyfan
Big East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.

I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.

Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 22, 2020 12:30PM

Beyond forcing them to enter the transfer portal to play as grad students, it limits their grad school educational opportunities. With a few exceptions, most of the schools with college hockey teams, other than the Ivys, are not exceptional institutions when it comes to graduate programs. Perhaps Michagan, Wisconsin, Notre Dame are exceptions here. If education is truly a priority, then allow successful student athletes to use their final year of eligibility as grad students at any institution, including an Ivy institution.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 22, 2020 05:46PM

margolism
Beyond forcing them to enter the transfer portal to play as grad students, it limits their grad school educational opportunities. With a few exceptions, most of the schools with college hockey teams, other than the Ivys, are not exceptional institutions when it comes to graduate programs. Perhaps Michagan, Wisconsin, Notre Dame are exceptions here. If education is truly a priority, then allow successful student athletes to use their final year of eligibility as grad students at any institution, including an Ivy institution.
this underrates a lot of good graduate programs across the country and overrates how important the grad program is to the player looking to play as a grad student

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: dbilmes (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 22, 2020 09:38PM

One of our favorite foes, Quinnipiac, had to cancel its first two games and suspend all hockey activities due to positive Covid tests.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: November 23, 2020 04:09AM

Ken Schott podcast with Coach Schafer and others. It's from last Friday.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: dbilmes (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: November 23, 2020 03:16PM

St. Lawrence has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: November 23, 2020 04:06PM

dbilmes
St. Lawrence has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!

On the plus side, we're still undefeated.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: November 23, 2020 06:09PM

Beeeej
dbilmes
St. Lawrence has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!

On the plus side, we're still undefeated.
i bet we'll still get dropped from the rankings

 
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Troyfan (---.columbus.rr.com)
Date: November 24, 2020 07:20AM

Al DeFlorio
Troyfan
Big East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.

I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.

Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.

"No reason" doesn't refer to covid per se. It means the impact of canceling hockey (and other sports) on reducing its spread. That it may be an overreaction and that less extreme measures may be just as good.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: November 24, 2020 03:31PM

Troyfan
Al DeFlorio
Troyfan
Big East is playing, Big 10. Why not ECAC? College football is playing with fits and starts. Games cancelled or rescheduled. But they're managing.

I don't know if a hockey program is like a train that you can just hop on and hop off and it just keeps going. Once players start going somewhere else they keep going there. Programs become places to be or to consider. Others also with good coaches, facilities fall off the radar.

Programs are either rising of falling. BU, Michigan, us, etc., have had stretches of glory and stretches of gloom. Times have been good lately, each year better than the last. It would a shame for it to peter out for what turns out to be no reason.
Your last two words are utter nonsense. Get your head out of...the sand.

"No reason" doesn't refer to covid per se. It means the impact of canceling hockey (and other sports) on reducing its spread. That it may be an overreaction and that less extreme measures may be just as good.
As I wrote above...

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: The Rancor (73.93.141.---)
Date: November 24, 2020 09:08PM

Beeeej
dbilmes
St. Lawrence has postponed all of its games through Christmas. The ECAC season is off to a great start!

On the plus side, we're still undefeated.

And we still have The Belt.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: November 25, 2020 02:26PM

Rochester D&C article on the Cornell hockey season that will not be.

To my annoyance, the D&C rarely acknowledges Cornell sports, not even mentioning Penfield’s Lindsay Browning ‘21.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com)
Date: November 25, 2020 02:37PM

Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: November 25, 2020 04:01PM

George64
Rochester D&C article on the Cornell hockey season that will not be.

To my annoyance, the D&C rarely acknowledges Cornell sports, not even mentioning Penfield’s Lindsay Browning ‘21.

Great article, but heartbreaking all the same.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2020 07:30PM

Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.

Well done by both interviewer and subject.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Rita (---.ftmy.qwest.net)
Date: December 20, 2020 01:49PM

if anyone is missing live hockey, come to florida. The ECHL teams are playing and with fans:


www.BladesTix.com/Mike


According to our "governor" nothing going on here in Florida, nothing to worry about at all. business as usual people. UGH.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 23, 2020 12:18PM

Florida never disappoints.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: December 26, 2020 02:13PM

Rita
if anyone is missing live hockey, come to florida. The ECHL teams are playing and with fans:


www.BladesTix.com/Mike


According to our "governor" nothing going on here in Florida, nothing to worry about at all. business as usual people. UGH.

I thought it was, "Nothing to see here." asshole (Your governor, not you.)
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 06, 2021 11:35AM

Trotsky
Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.

Well done by both interviewer and subject.

And an update from Mike:

Hello Everyone:

Since March we have all had to watch COVID destroy lives, businesses, and families. It has wreaked havoc on people’s plans, work and schooling. Having to tell our number one ranked team last year that we would not be finishing the season and then telling this year’s team we would not play at all, were the hardest things I have had to do in my 25 year coaching career. Watching other teams play right now while our team has to sit out the season is difficult to swallow.

I recently spoke to someone who I respect a great deal. He tried to give me some perspective about the lives, business and institutions devastated by this terrible virus. He reminded me to put canceled seasons into the larger perspective. In many ways I agree with him. I am also mindful that we all face challenges in life and the focus must be on what we can impact.

There are things I’ve accepted during my career - Ivy practice and playing opportunities which are more limited than the NCAA allows, for instance - but I can no longer accept the negative impact of the Ivy rule regarding graduate student participation in varsity sports. The heartbreak I’ve witnessed in recent months has sharpened my resolve to do better by Ivy League student-athletes. Let me explain.

The NCAA has granted all fall and winter student-athletes an additional year of eligibility this year and our guys are obviously not using any eligibility since our 2020-21 season is canceled. Ivy League rules are more limiting than the NCAA rules and Cornell has lost five players because of restrictions on graduate student participation. Each case is unique, but the outcome so far is that seniors Matt Galdjda, Cam Donaldson and Tristan Mullin have all decided to transfer to play out their eligibility as graduate students elsewhere. In addition, two juniors, Mike Regush and Joe Leahy also decided to transfer after accelerating graduation plans because of the Ivy rule. All of these players have gone from playing a number one ranked national team to leaving the school, hockey program and the teammates that they loved. Their decisions to leave broke their hearts and mine. In their eyes, the Ivy League let them down by refusing any opportunity to continue to play here while they reclaimed eligibility from canceled seasons because of the pandemic.

The topic of Ivy graduate student eligibility has existed my entire career and I will push to keep the renewed debate alive. It confounds me that only our league will not support qualified student-athletes to pursue post-graduate educational and athletic goals. I will share updates on my efforts to affect change to serve our students and university.

Mike Schafer
mcs14@cornell.edu
607-327-1069
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2021 01:08PM

Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 06, 2021 07:19PM

The ivy has some strange ideas on what makes a student athlete.. the inability to let kids play 5 yrs and get Grad degrees seems the opposite of what they stand for.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 06, 2021 08:40PM

The count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 07, 2021 12:32PM

redice
The count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.

You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...

I know, I know, I'm shutting up.

Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/07/2021 12:34PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 07, 2021 05:24PM

gonna be lots of quality kids floating around in 2 yrs as all these kids who get extra yrs will want to play somewhere and schools run out of scholies
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: January 08, 2021 06:22AM

jeff '84
Trotsky
Good work by Mike not just giving rote answers. He considers what he is saying. Professional throughout and a good balance between facts and a feel for how difficult this has been for his players and their families.

Well done by both interviewer and subject.

And an update from Mike:

Hello Everyone:

Since March we have all had to watch COVID destroy lives, businesses, and families. It has wreaked havoc on people’s plans, work and schooling. Having to tell our number one ranked team last year that we would not be finishing the season and then telling this year’s team we would not play at all, were the hardest things I have had to do in my 25 year coaching career. Watching other teams play right now while our team has to sit out the season is difficult to swallow.

I recently spoke to someone who I respect a great deal. He tried to give me some perspective about the lives, business and institutions devastated by this terrible virus. He reminded me to put canceled seasons into the larger perspective. In many ways I agree with him. I am also mindful that we all face challenges in life and the focus must be on what we can impact.

There are things I’ve accepted during my career - Ivy practice and playing opportunities which are more limited than the NCAA allows, for instance - but I can no longer accept the negative impact of the Ivy rule regarding graduate student participation in varsity sports. The heartbreak I’ve witnessed in recent months has sharpened my resolve to do better by Ivy League student-athletes. Let me explain.

The NCAA has granted all fall and winter student-athletes an additional year of eligibility this year and our guys are obviously not using any eligibility since our 2020-21 season is canceled. Ivy League rules are more limiting than the NCAA rules and Cornell has lost five players because of restrictions on graduate student participation. Each case is unique, but the outcome so far is that seniors Matt Galdjda, Cam Donaldson and Tristan Mullin have all decided to transfer to play out their eligibility as graduate students elsewhere. In addition, two juniors, Mike Regush and Joe Leahy also decided to transfer after accelerating graduation plans because of the Ivy rule. All of these players have gone from playing a number one ranked national team to leaving the school, hockey program and the teammates that they loved. Their decisions to leave broke their hearts and mine. In their eyes, the Ivy League let them down by refusing any opportunity to continue to play here while they reclaimed eligibility from canceled seasons because of the pandemic.

The topic of Ivy graduate student eligibility has existed my entire career and I will push to keep the renewed debate alive. It confounds me that only our league will not support qualified student-athletes to pursue post-graduate educational and athletic goals. I will share updates on my efforts to affect change to serve our students and university.

Mike Schafer
mcs14@cornell.edu
607-327-1069

Regush and leahy? Hadn't seen this before. Where's they go?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: Noneya Business (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 08, 2021 08:50AM

It doesn't fundamentally matter where they have gone.

As a reader here forever, the typical response from the exalted members will certainly indicate the boorish stupidity to play anywhere but CU.

However, these kids at CU will all be paying for 4 years of school to play only 3, when they could all receive a quality education elsewhere on scholarship and still play 4.

These are weighty decisions for young men and their families, so lets not chirp about how it may impact your fandom. Its the IVY's fault.
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: January 08, 2021 09:01AM

Trotsky
redice
The count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.

You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...

I know, I know, I'm shutting up.

Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time.

It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?
 
Re: 2020-21 Season *Officially* Delayed
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 08, 2021 09:16AM

ursusminor
Trotsky
redice
The count is now up to 10 players from the team, that we last watched, will not be returning. That is devastating.
Gotta assume the Principled Eight are all in the same boat.

You know, if Mike was ever going to consider a clean break...

I know, I know, I'm shutting up.

Maybe he relishes the challenge of building us back to #1 one last time.

It may have been said here somewhere, but are the Cornell players allowed to practice, either with or without supervision, at Lynah rink?

Ursaminor, is RPI allowing practice? Based on the shutdown of RPI's fraternities my guess is no.
 
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