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Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award

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Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: Swampy (---.com)
Date: May 01, 2020 04:56PM

Ryan Lambert wrote an interesting article on CHN about how he ranked goalies competing for the Richter Award. From a Cornell perspective, I think the bottom line is it wouldn't matter if Ken Dryden himself were playing goal for us, as long as Schafer successfully coaches teams that shut down the opponents' offenses, no Cornell goalie can possibly win the Richter Cup.

Here's the relevant quote: "Galajda [who had the highest 5v5 save %age in the country], however, also faced just 22.6 shots per 60 minutes, compared to 28.4 for Knight and 30.7 for Wall, behind a better team and in a weaker conference, all of which matter."
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: ugarte (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 01, 2020 11:23PM

all of that is relevant and matters.

 
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Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 02, 2020 12:46AM

Cornell goalies have been rolling up fantastic numbers for 20 years. It makes sense to me that the only way a Big Red goalie is going to win the Richter is if he has an otherworldly season around 1.20 / .940, like LeNeveu in 2003.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2020 12:47AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 04, 2020 02:57PM

Trotsky
Cornell goalies have been rolling up fantastic numbers for 20 years. It makes sense to me that the only way a Big Red goalie is going to win the Richter is if he has an otherworldly season around 1.20 / .940, like LeNeveu in 2003.
The deck is stacked against Cornell. Dryden goes 29-0 and no Richter Award.
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: May 04, 2020 03:07PM

Trotsky
Cornell goalies have been rolling up fantastic numbers for 20 years. It makes sense to me that the only way a Big Red goalie is going to win the Richter is if he has an otherworldly season around 1.20 / .940, like LeNeveu in 2003.

I'm still mad at the Cantabs for letting Jimmy Howard break that record one year later. :-(

 
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Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 04, 2020 03:19PM

billhoward
Trotsky
Cornell goalies have been rolling up fantastic numbers for 20 years. It makes sense to me that the only way a Big Red goalie is going to win the Richter is if he has an otherworldly season around 1.20 / .940, like LeNeveu in 2003.
The deck is stacked against Cornell. Dryden goes 29-0 and no Richter Award.

Well Bill that's just cuz he refused to play as a frosh. Doesn't show confidence.
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 14, 2020 05:05PM

It seems the opposition skaters on the ice who shot at various goalies would have a more credible opinion than say, an observer in the rink or - worse- an observer on T.V. - Are the MVP Goalie voters statisticians or are they players and observers of the games?
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: May 15, 2020 12:36PM

osorojo
It seems the opposition skaters on the ice who shot at various goalies would have a more credible opinion than say, an observer in the rink or - worse- an observer on T.V. - Are the MVP Goalie voters statisticians or are they players and observers of the games?

Yes, they are. You're welcome.
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 15, 2020 02:37PM

Please do not feed the troll. I'm sure it has a rapidly approaching date with COVID because "I trust my eyes more than charts and math, hurr."
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 20, 2020 04:35PM

I trust the eyes and opinions of people who play the game more than I trust the subjective conclusions of those who only watch the game. Their figures not significant. If they were, they would be cleaning up in Vegas, not parsing six or eight pages of decimal points.
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Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: KenP (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 21, 2020 09:02AM

osorojo
I trust the eyes and opinions of people who play the game more than I trust the subjective conclusions of those who only watch the game. Their figures not significant. If they were, they would be cleaning up in Vegas, not parsing six or eight pages of decimal points.
Watch this movie - it might change your mind.
 
Re: Article choosing among candidates for the Richter Award
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: May 21, 2020 09:20AM

Ken: Concur! Baseball is a marvelous game for statisticians and their efforts DO yield results, but the pace and the strategies of these two games are galaxies apart. Until hockey coaches can stop a breakaway by a left-handed shooter with a weak backhand on a right-handed goalie with a strong glove hand and replace either or both players before play resumes statisticians won't help anybody very much.
 

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