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2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)

Posted by Trotsky 
2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2020 06:30PM

Donato, you're an embarrassment to Harvard hockey, and Harvard hockey sucks.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2020 10:10PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: drs48 (---.hsd1.tx.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2020 07:14PM

Just lost the ESPN+ signal?
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-132.myvzw.com)
Date: January 25, 2020 07:16PM

Refs let a few penalties go to start the game, so it only follows that a clear five is only a two.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 25, 2020 07:35PM

I have seen few clearer fives.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2020 07:46PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2020 07:45PM

Yup, that was bad. Glad Stienburg is OK.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: jy3 (173.225.61.---)
Date: January 25, 2020 09:25PM

place is going nuts. wish I was there!

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 25, 2020 10:45PM

jy3
place is going nuts. wish I was there!

As we started the 6 on 4 Lynah was as loud as I've ever heard it during play. (Well, it seemed that way, anyway.)
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: blackwidow (---.princeton.edu)
Date: January 25, 2020 10:49PM

Lucky to have come out with a tie.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2020 11:05PM

I'm not sure we were entirely lucky. Harvard was also lucky to get the bad turnover that gave them their only goal. This was probable a scoreless tie that happenstance turned into a 1-1 tie.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-132.myvzw.com)
Date: January 25, 2020 11:12PM

Trotsky
I'm not sure we were entirely lucky. Harvard was also lucky to get the bad turnover that gave them their only goal. This was probable a scoreless tie that happenstance turned into a 1-1 tie.

Plus, we really, really should've had a major. Hard to guarantee goals on it or anything, but if Wong got kicked out, it would've opened up space.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: underskill (204.194.190.---)
Date: January 25, 2020 11:13PM

Any idea how long the injured players are expected out? We looked awful on face offs
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2020 11:16PM

Cornell was indeed lucky to come out with the tie. Harvard played such aggressive D, especially on the PK, and Cornell was unable to thread the needle on its passes in the little time and space Harvard gave them. I actually thought Cornell played well defensively and limited the chances of Harvard's dangerous offense, but repeated errant passes killed any chance at setting up the cycle, and without sustained possession Cornell was never able to impose its physicality. Harvard had the speed to play this way, and I would expect other talented teams to imitate this style against Cornell. Hopefully not a preview of an NCAA tournament game against another speedy team.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 25, 2020 11:50PM

underskill
Any idea how long the injured players are expected out? We looked awful on face offs

Interestingly, near the end of OT Grady said the FO’s were only 31-29 Harvard
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: billhoward (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 26, 2020 12:02AM

andyw2100
jy3
place is going nuts. wish I was there!

As we started the 6 on 4 Lynah was as loud as I've ever heard it during play. (Well, it seemed that way, anyway.)
I measured 110 dB in Section E when we scored, Harvard def heard the Cornell fans during the game, After the Cantabrigians got on the board, Jack Drury came over to our section and held his arms out in a faux acknowledgment of our love for Harvard. Ballsy.

A 1-1 come from behind tie felt a lot better than 0-0.

Great weekend. Too bad 1970 leader Dan Lodboa passed recently. “Lodboa” as in third period hat track over Clarkson in the title game.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Robb (---.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 12:02AM

BearLover
Cornell was indeed lucky to come out with the tie. Harvard played such aggressive D, especially on the PK, and Cornell was unable to thread the needle on its passes in the little time and space Harvard gave them. I actually thought Cornell played well defensively and limited the chances of Harvard's dangerous offense, but repeated errant passes killed any chance at setting up the cycle, and without sustained possession Cornell was never able to impose its physicality. Harvard had the speed to play this way, and I would expect other talented teams to imitate this style against Cornell. Hopefully not a preview of an NCAA tournament game against another speedy team.
I repeatedly found myself screaming at the screen, “Stop passing into traffic!” We kept thinking we were playing Yale or SLU, not Harvard. Way too cute. If they’re packing it in and clogging up the passing lanes in front of the net, try something besides a direct frontal assault - pull the puck back and get it moving around the perimeter so you can create some open space when they over-pursue.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 26, 2020 09:26AM

first game all year we really didnt the cycle going all that much. but really we need to stop missing the net on so many of the chances, especially in a game where we are generating so many shots.

harvard came to play as you would expect after we jumped them game 1.

its about effort not talent for them
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 09:53AM

On the tube we looked very sloppy and careless. Is there a source of statistics on unforced turnovers? I'd be surprised if we weren't at or close to a season high.

Harvard was fast and precise. It also played to break up our breakouts.

To counter, we needed all five skaters to be on the same page. Too often, they weren't or they tried to be cute on their way between the red and blue lines.

I thought we should counter their blue-line structure by dumping the puck into the zone in ways the players off the puck could immediately forecheck. While I favor coordinated attacking across the blue line, we needed to make them pay for their strategy of breaking that up.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-28.myvzw.com)
Date: January 26, 2020 10:12AM

This is an odd thing to highlight, but man, Harvard was good at lobbing the puck high enough to slow its momentum and clear it without icing.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 26, 2020 10:16AM

Dafatone
This is an odd thing to highlight, but man, Harvard was good at lobbing the puck high enough to slow its momentum and clear it without icing.

Whenever we play Harvard, I fear exactly what you've described leading to a breakaway goal. They've always ben oddly good at that.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2020 10:16AM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 10:17AM

Scersk '97
Dafatone
This is an odd thing to highlight, but man, Harvard was good at lobbing the puck high enough to slow its momentum and clear it without icing.

Whenever we play Harvard, I fear exactly what you've described leading to a breakaway goal. They've always ben oddly good at that.

Do you suppose they practice it?
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.sub-174-220-10.myvzw.com)
Date: January 26, 2020 10:38AM

A few folks have said Cornell was lucky to get out with a tie, and I guess that’s true if thinking about the game as time was short and Cornell was down a goal, but over the course of the game despite the shot difference I though Cornell had just as many quality looks as Harvard, maybe more (perhaps my Big Red tinted glasses are partially to blame).

I agree that a bit more dump and chase might have worked. Cornell has players that can get to the corners fast and work for the puck; you dump while your attackers are getting up to speed and you can beat the flatter footed defenders at the blue line to the corners. (How strange it feels to say I wanted Cornell to dump the puck more.)

Something I noticed that NMich and Harvard did on their power plays was as they were coming to Cornell’s blue line and Cornell had its players stacked there to make entry hard, the puck carrier would curl and pass back to a teammate who was coming at the blue line with a head of steam at a different entry point and it seemed to work to get the puck into the offensive zone. Maybe teams have been doing this and I hadn’t noticed before.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 11:30AM

Scersk '97
Dafatone
This is an odd thing to highlight, but man, Harvard was good at lobbing the puck high enough to slow its momentum and clear it without icing.

Whenever we play Harvard, I fear exactly what you've described leading to a breakaway goal. They've always ben oddly good at that.
The Fuscos either brought this to Harvard or perfected in the early 80s. Bright has a high roof (unencumbered with banners... hee hee) and you can really play Gravity's Rainbow there. Not so much at Lynah.

I imagine at Thompson they could get an NFL punt's hangtime.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2020 11:31AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 12:28PM

Trotsky
Scersk '97
Dafatone
This is an odd thing to highlight, but man, Harvard was good at lobbing the puck high enough to slow its momentum and clear it without icing.

Whenever we play Harvard, I fear exactly what you've described leading to a breakaway goal. They've always ben oddly good at that.
The Fuscos either brought this to Harvard or perfected in the early 80s. Bright has a high roof (unencumbered with banners... hee hee) and you can really play Gravity's Rainbow there. Not so much at Lynah.

I imagine at Thompson they could get an NFL punt's hangtime.

Interesting thoughts that: (1) the home arena's architecture might dictate a team's overall skill set and, therefore, style of play and (2) the way a team memorializes its past successes, as well as the quantity and quality of such successes, might have a similar effect.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 02:12PM

Q did some aggressive forechecking in November. I bet they go for that again next Friday.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: January 26, 2020 02:18PM

CBR: Regush's Late Power-Play Goal Helps #1 Men's Hockey Tie #16 Harvard, 1-1

Hvd: No. 16 Men's Ice Hockey Fights For 1-1 Tie at No. 1/1 Cornell

Sun: Regush’s Late Goal Helps No. 1 Men’s Hockey Force 1-1 Tie With No. 16 Harvard

Crimson: 16 Men's Hockey Ties No. 1 Cornell, 1-1, at Lynah Rink

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: sah67 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 26, 2020 03:50PM

Scersk '97
I have seen few clearer fives.

I'm sure the refs were just giving Wong the benefit of the doubt, given his spotless record wow


 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 26, 2020 06:58PM

Wong is obviously a Kevan Melrose cementhead. He's gonna be fun for the next four years. At some point somebody is going to have a talk with him. Not Mullin, though; I won't make that trade.

Wonder if Damian Rocke had a son. Hell, even a daughter.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 08:07AM

Inside the Fish-Throwing Tradition at Lynah Rink But the Sun article has little about the tradiion.

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: marty (---.sub-174-220-1.myvzw.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 09:29AM

Jim Hyla
Inside the Fish-Throwing Tradition at Lynah Rink But the Sun article has little about the tradiion.

I don't understand how tieing a chicken to the goal morphed into throwing fish.

The picture of the poor confused chicken exists - but this occurred sometime before 1972. The Sun mentions fish in the early 70's yet I don't remember any fish on the ice from 70-74.

Calling Bill Howard. You were in the class of '74. And how about comments from other folks with memories of the 70's?
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 09:59AM

There were chickens in the early 80s. I believe The Unfortunate Incident was 1984, and that was it for the fowl.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 10:06AM

A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2020 10:07AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-20.myvzw.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 10:17AM

Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

People will always get behind a winner. Even in the age of iPhones and Netflix.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 10:49AM

CU2007
Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

People will always get behind a winner. Even in the age of iPhones and Netflix.
Well, then, I have a suggestion...

TBH I did notice the girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2020 10:50AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-20.myvzw.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 10:55AM

Trotsky
CU2007
Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

People will always get behind a winner. Even in the age of iPhones and Netflix.
Well, then, I have a suggestion...

TBH I did notice the girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.

I actually did too, but something something small sample sizes.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: bandit (147.129.19.---)
Date: January 28, 2020 12:26PM

If you are going remain atop....come to play Cornell. Seems as though you are playing afraid, without heart, and not as a number 1 team in DI hockey. Not impressed with ties!
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 01:08PM

Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell vs Harvard
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 05:16PM

Trotsky
There were chickens in the early 80s. I believe The Unfortunate Incident was 1984, and that was it for the fowl.

Definitely both fish and fowl during my tenure (79-82). However, the fish were thrown before Sucks came out for the 3rd period, not at the beginning of the game.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 05:34PM

Trotsky
CU2007
Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

People will always get behind a winner. Even in the age of iPhones and Netflix.
Well, then, I have a suggestion...

TBH I did notice the girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.

Have you followed the demographics of the student body? Cripes, even the Engineering College took in over 50% women in 2018 (and I presume 2019). In my day, the ratio was 6:1 male:female (and we'd hike up Lib Slope uphill both ways!). Once you increase the size of the pool of women, the odds of seeing lots of attractive women increase. Also, and not to say that back in the day Cornell women were from an inherently less attractive demographic (have you seen films showing the Notorious RBG while she was at Cornell? -- quite the looker), but as one portion of the incoming student body admitted to fill available spots expands from taking only the top 1% to the top 2.5%, one might expect to pick up a larger percentage of applicants whose non-academic high school activities went beyond captain of the chess team, student body president, or editor of the school newspaper and now include captain of the cheerleaders or leading actress in the drama club. wow
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2020 05:39PM by Swampy.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 05:41PM

Swampy
Trotsky
CU2007
Trotsky
A lot of people have commented on how loud it was after the Regush goal. It sounded fantastic over ESPN+. I am very happy to hear this. The coach and players have also noticed, based on their comments. Even some of us stodgy "in my day" old timers think this compares favorably with any epoch of the Faithful.

We bitch constantly about latecomers and cell phones so I hope there's a ton of positive reinforcement being given to the students right now. They're really coming through and it helps. Later, if we can do this at the neutral sites, it could provide that tiny sliver of an edge -- the kind of thing that makes the difference in, oh I dunno, a triple overtime QF say.

People will always get behind a winner. Even in the age of iPhones and Netflix.
Well, then, I have a suggestion...

TBH I did notice the girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.

Have you followed the demographics of the student body? Cripes, even the Engineering College took in over 50% women in 2018 (and I presume 2019). In my day, the ratio was 6:1 male:female (and we'd hike up Lib Slope uphill both ways!). Once you increase the size of the pool of women, the odds of seeing lots of attractive women increase. Also, and not to say that back in the day Cornell women were from an inherently less attractive demographic (have you seen films showing the Notorious RBG while she was at Cornell? -- quite the looker), but as one portion of the incoming student body admitted to fill available spots expands from taking only the top 1% to the top 2.5%, one might expect to pick up a larger percentage of applicants whose non-academic high school activities went beyond captain of the chess team, student body president, or editor of the school newspaper and now include captain of the cheerleaders or leading actress in the drama club. wow

RBG was indeed quite something while at Cornell
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 06:42PM

Swampy
Have you followed the demographics of the student body? Cripes, even the Engineering College took in over 50% women in 2018 (and I presume 2019).

I'm sorry, I should have clarified. TBH I did notice the white girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2020 06:43PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 08:27PM

would you all please be horny in private. women aren't some weird background ephemera that you happen to have noticed and have theories about.

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 08:47PM

ugarte
would you all please be horny in private. women aren't some weird background ephemera that you happen to have noticed and have theories about.

Thank you.

 
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Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 28, 2020 10:12PM

Trotsky
Swampy
Have you followed the demographics of the student body? Cripes, even the Engineering College took in over 50% women in 2018 (and I presume 2019).

I'm sorry, I should have clarified. TBH I did notice the white girls in the student section appear to be getting hotter. This happened with the Mets in 86, too.
The last month or so has seen some incredibly creepy ELynah posts.
 
Re: 2020-01-25: Cornell 1 Harvard 1 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 29, 2020 02:48AM

ugarte
would you all please be horny in private. women aren't some weird background ephemera that you happen to have noticed and have theories about.

No face without a heel, Maisel
 

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