2020-01-17: Cornell 2 Northern Michigan 2 (ot)
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2020-01-17: Cornell 2 Northern Michigan 2 (ot)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 06:24PM
Last NC games. Go Red!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2020 03:07PM by Trotsky.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 07:31PM
Another game, another 5 minute major and game misconduct for Cornell, midway through the first, on Mitchell. We've argued that these were weak calls. But we're getting called too much. Got to play within the rules as the ECAC and NCAA see them.
[edit add:] Noah Bauld draws a 5 + 10 eight minutes into the third and the scored tied at 2. Sheesh.
[edit add:] Noah Bauld draws a 5 + 10 eight minutes into the third and the scored tied at 2. Sheesh.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 07:39PM
Great crowd for an intersession game.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 07:40PM
Students who've had enough of being home with mom and dad.BearLover
Great crowd for an intersession game.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 17, 2020 07:44PM
Saw Andreev skate around a bit at the end of the period there. Looked pretty normal.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 07:47PM
billhoward
Students who've had enough of being home with mom and dad.BearLover
Great crowd for an intersession game.
I told my parents that I'd paid for season tickets and didn't want to waste them.
I think they bought it.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: French Rage (---.mediazone.com)
Date: January 17, 2020 08:13PM
billhoward
Students who've had enough of being home with mom and dad.BearLover
Great crowd for an intersession game.
Classes start Tuesday, right? And rush is going on, which will bring a good number back.
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Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 08:37PM
Oh, I did not realize classes resume next week. Thanks.French Rage
billhoward
Students who've had enough of being home with mom and dad.BearLover
Great crowd for an intersession game.
Classes start Tuesday, right? And rush is going on, which will bring a good number back.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Cornell95 (---.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 09:15PM
as a fan who never played... what is the responsibility of the offensive player there
maybe I just dont know what to look for, but it seemed like the NMU skater tried to reverse direction along the wall and bauld had no chance to pull up without out contacting him from behind
maybe I just dont know what to look for, but it seemed like the NMU skater tried to reverse direction along the wall and bauld had no chance to pull up without out contacting him from behind
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 17, 2020 09:56PM
Not hard to imagine we were playing Clarkson, and it wasn’t just the green and gold sweaters. Whatever happens tomorrow, NMU is a great tune-up for the rest of the season.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 17, 2020 09:58PM
Scersk '97
Not hard to imagine we were playing Clarkson, and it wasn’t just the green and gold sweaters. Whatever happens tomorrow, NMU is a great tune-up for the rest of the season.
Quite right. Our non-conference schedule has been strong, which especially helps in a year where the ECAC is a bit down.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 17, 2020 10:02PM
scoop85
Scersk '97
Not hard to imagine we were playing Clarkson, and it wasn’t just the green and gold sweaters. Whatever happens tomorrow, NMU is a great tune-up for the rest of the season.
Quite right. Our non-conference schedule has been strong, which especially helps in a year where the ECAC is a bit down.
Indeed. Who would’ve thought BU would be the stinker!
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 10:04PM
As of now we have dropped to 3 in PWR.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri another tie
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 10:25PM
2-2 Friday night. Never led. A tie in each of the last three weekends. Three games is a pretty short trend line. Extend out to four weekends and we're 3-1-3 with Saturday yet to play. Also too many major penalties and ejections.
Still the best team in 17 years. And the 12-1-3 record is mostly away from Lynah. And not clobbered by injuries.
Still the best team in 17 years. And the 12-1-3 record is mostly away from Lynah. And not clobbered by injuries.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan - Fri another tie
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 17, 2020 11:04PM
Last year's team may have been the best team in 16 years had it not been clobbered by injuries.billhoward
2-2 Friday night. Never led. A tie in each of the last three weekends. Three games is a pretty short trend line. Extend out to four weekends and we're 3-1-3 with Saturday yet to play. Also too many major penalties and ejections.
Still the best team in 17 years. And the 12-1-3 record is mostly away from Lynah. And not clobbered by injuries.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 07:01AM
Total of 9:04 on the PK for the Big Red with no goals.
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Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 09:14AM
thought there were a couple long stretches were we really dominated.. NK has some quick kids and that caused some issues at times.
the PP created a bunch of really good chances we need to put more of those home.
the PK was pretty solid a couple of one timers but not much in the really dangerous areas
we cycled well for a while. the NM goalie played well but we didnt put home most of the really good chances and the extended PK and loss of 2 players in the rotation probably added up.
the PP created a bunch of really good chances we need to put more of those home.
the PK was pretty solid a couple of one timers but not much in the really dangerous areas
we cycled well for a while. the NM goalie played well but we didnt put home most of the really good chances and the extended PK and loss of 2 players in the rotation probably added up.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 18, 2020 10:23AM
upprdeck
thought there were a couple long stretches were we really dominated.. NK has some quick kids and that caused some issues at times.
the PP created a bunch of really good chances we need to put more of those home.
the PK was pretty solid a couple of one timers but not much in the really dangerous areas
we cycled well for a while. the NM goalie played well but we didnt put home most of the really good chances and the extended PK and loss of 2 players in the rotation probably added up.
I mentioned on the Slack chat that we seemed to revert to the bad old days of the “gang that can’t shoot straight” by missing the cage on numerous shots.
Also, Kaldis seems to have become allergic to taking a shot. He’s always been a pass-first guy, but he had a few really good looks from the top of the slot on the PP that he passed up.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 10:50AM
gonna be dicey heading to the game today. 2-8 inches of snow depending on the forecast you have to drive thru, those of us coming from north of the city more snow, those down in the city more sleet and ice. lots of flights cancelled so kids trying to get to campus the last day or 2 from the midwest probably seeing trouble,
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 12:53PM
If that's how NMU plays on a regular basis, then they would be a BYE team in the ECAC this year. And they were missing one of their better players.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 01:07PM
scoop85
Also, Kaldis seems to have become allergic to taking a shot. He’s always been a pass-first guy, but he had a few really good looks from the top of the slot on the PP that he passed up.
I'm fine with this, because Kaldis, for all his usefulness, has one of the least effective slapshots of any offensive defenseman we've ever had. Every once in a while he can snap something in, but it's rare. Looking back, we haven't had an effective goal-scoring defenseman since Ryan, and we haven't had an effective power-play shooter since Charlie Cook, in my opinion. We haven't had a sniper since Mark McRae; Murray was more of a bomber.
Kaldis also needs to stop dangling the puck one-handed when entering the offensive zone and clear with authority on the kill. The latter is something I saw from others last night and may have been a point of emphasis in practices, but Kaldis still created a couple of "moments." I don't know if he's injured or something, but his play has been—I don't know—kind of "flat." He's being more than a little lax with the puck. Maybe he's just tired.
I think Green needs to shoot more. He set off an absolute bomb from way out last night that almost beat Kent. And where has Joe Leahy been? He played that one game and scored that pretty goal, but the seventh defenseman has been Cairns ever since.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 18, 2020 01:09PM
I don't remember Ned Harkness rationalizing any performances by his teams, and I can't remember any fans of his teams doing so. If you get beat the other team was better. If you tie the other team was just as good as you.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-141.myvzw.com)
Date: January 18, 2020 01:32PM
osorojo
I don't remember Ned Harkness rationalizing any performances by his teams, and I can't remember any fans of his teams doing so. If you get beat the other team was better. If you tie the other team was just as good as you.
Weren't you looking for an explanation as to our mental weakness when we dropped a game to Dartmouth?
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: January 18, 2020 02:08PM
Nope. I have always found an "explanation" for failure to be a waste of time.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 03:09PM
I think Malinski has a shot to be one.Scersk '97
Looking back, we haven't had an effective goal-scoring defenseman since Ryan, and we haven't had an effective power-play shooter since Charlie Cook, in my opinion.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 03:13PM
Cairns seems to have settled down as a dependable 19. I'm not complaining, though Leahy has shown that nice offensive touch in his few games, which could have been useful.Scersk '97
And where has Joe Leahy been? He played that one game and scored that pretty goal, but the seventh defenseman has been Cairns ever since.
I think Leahy may simply be exploitable by good teams and we've played a string of them. We may see him again with SLU, Brown, Yale, and Princeton.
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2020 03:18PM by Trotsky.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 03:47PM
Trotsky
Cairns seems to have settled down as a dependable 19. I'm not complaining, though Leahy has shown that nice offensive touch in his few games, which could have been useful.Scersk '97
And where has Joe Leahy been? He played that one game and scored that pretty goal, but the seventh defenseman has been Cairns ever since.
I think Leahy may simply be exploitable by good teams and we've played a string of them. We may see him again with SLU, Brown, Yale, and Princeton.
That's kind of my sense. He's a step—only one—behind, but he has a bigger offensive upside than Cairns. Big shot, if I'm remembering correctly. I just wondered if he was injured.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 03:48PM
Trotsky
I think Malinski has a shot to be one.Scersk '97
Looking back, we haven't had an effective goal-scoring defenseman since Ryan, and we haven't had an effective power-play shooter since Charlie Cook, in my opinion.
Which kind? Crafty goal-scorer or power-play shooter/sniper? If I'm recalling what I've seen of Malinski properly so far, he doesn't seem to have a huge shot but tends not to bash it into blockers—a fine profile as far as I'm concerned. Also seems pretty mobile, but I haven't seen him ranging down low as much lately. Probably has to do with the quality of the competition.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 05:37PM
Sniper/play-maker. Kaldis, basically.Scersk '97
Trotsky
I think Malinski has a shot to be one.Scersk '97
Looking back, we haven't had an effective goal-scoring defenseman since Ryan, and we haven't had an effective power-play shooter since Charlie Cook, in my opinion.
Which kind? Crafty goal-scorer or power-play shooter/sniper?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2020 05:38PM by Trotsky.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 18, 2020 06:22PM
upprdeck
thought there were a couple long stretches were we really dominated.. NK has some quick kids and that caused some issues at times.
NMU is fearless and reckless with their speed. Just using their bodies as projectiles, if that’s what’s needed. It makes me a little scared of injuries tonight, to be honest. We dodged a couple bad injuries last night, and our getting caught up in flying bodies led to the two majors, if you ask me.
I follow Adam on twitter, and he’s getting apoplectic about the trend of officials reviewing for majors when nothing is initially called, and I have to say, I’m coming around to that point of view. It’s getting ridiculous.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 06:37PM
RichH
upprdeck
thought there were a couple long stretches were we really dominated.. NK has some quick kids and that caused some issues at times.
NMU is fearless and reckless with their speed. Just using their bodies as projectiles, if that’s what’s needed. It makes me a little scared of injuries tonight, to be honest. We dodged a couple bad injuries last night, and our getting caught up in flying bodies led to the two majors, if you ask me.
I follow Adam on twitter, and he’s getting apoplectic about the trend of officials reviewing for majors when nothing is initially called, and I have to say, I’m coming around to that point of view. It’s getting ridiculous.
As last night's game crept towards three hours, I laughed thinking of the "speed up the game" effort around the 2002 Olympics. 15 seconds from whistle to draw and games at 2:00-2:05. Media timeouts help lengthen the game but the reviews are total momentum killers.
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Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: January 18, 2020 06:38PM
really felt like both the hits that went uncalled on them for knee shots were worse than both majors we got.. one of ours i get it was along the boards and we knocked the kid in the other not really sure it was something that doesnt go uncalled 10x a game.
there are multiple refs for a reason and if they both dont see even a penalty live on plays around the puck then what are they there for.. if they want to confirm a major from a minor at least they saw something.
different if its on calls away from the puck
there are multiple refs for a reason and if they both dont see even a penalty live on plays around the puck then what are they there for.. if they want to confirm a major from a minor at least they saw something.
different if its on calls away from the puck
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2020 06:41PM
And like that: Leahy in tonight.Scersk '97
Trotsky
Cairns seems to have settled down as a dependable 19. I'm not complaining, though Leahy has shown that nice offensive touch in his few games, which could have been useful.Scersk '97
And where has Joe Leahy been? He played that one game and scored that pretty goal, but the seventh defenseman has been Cairns ever since.
I think Leahy may simply be exploitable by good teams and we've played a string of them. We may see him again with SLU, Brown, Yale, and Princeton.
That's kind of my sense. He's a step—only one—behind, but he has a bigger offensive upside than Cairns. Big shot, if I'm remembering correctly. I just wondered if he was injured.
Re: 2020-01-17: Cornell vs Northern Michigan
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: January 19, 2020 12:27AM
Trotsky
And like that: Leahy in tonight.Scersk '97
That's kind of my sense. He's a step—only one—behind, but he has a bigger offensive upside than Cairns. Big shot, if I'm remembering correctly. I just wondered if he was injured.
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