2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
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2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 06:28PM
Final game before break. Concentrate, execute, finish.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/07/2019 09:42PM by Trotsky.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 06:55PM
Tupker Twins united on a line tonight; Berard dropped after a weak game.
Also the Barron-Locke-Donaldson line is reunited.
Also the Barron-Locke-Donaldson line is reunited.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
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Date: December 07, 2019 06:56PM
Why is my Slack app showing last night's chat?
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 06:59PM
I think it's up to the admin to change the title
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 07:02PM
Holy fuck, the Dartmouth sweaters are a war crime.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 07, 2019 08:22PM
Does else anyone notice the Dartmouth person lobbying the officials during replays by pointing things out on the replay screen? INAPPROPPRIATE!!
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-12.myvzw.com)
Date: December 07, 2019 08:23PM
Trotsky
Holy fuck, the Dartmouth sweaters are a war crime.
Look like the hamburgler
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:26PM
Dartmouth decided to show up after getting whipped by Colgate last night. Even then, it took a goaltender standing on his head to keep this game close
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:29PM
Of course it was Dartmouth away.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:36PM
Outshot them 40-17, hit 3 posts, and had an opposing goalie makes saves he had no business making. And the winning goal was from a bad angle that Galajda would normally gobble up. But that’s how it goes sometimes in sports.
If nothing else the boys will have a sour taste in their mouth going into break, and will hopefully come out guns blazing in Vegas.
If nothing else the boys will have a sour taste in their mouth going into break, and will hopefully come out guns blazing in Vegas.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:36PM
We do seem to struggle more with big physical teams, which is still weird to see.
But we outshot them 40-17, hit three posts, and made their goalie make a half-dozen amazing saves. It happens.
But we outshot them 40-17, hit three posts, and made their goalie make a half-dozen amazing saves. It happens.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:37PM
Sucks lost in OT to Colgate, so we're still at the top of the standings.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Robb (---.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:42PM
Thompson: where dreams go to die. I friggin hate that place.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 09:43PM
I'm 10-1 there. They should pay my airfare to and from.Robb
Thompson: where dreams go to die. I friggin hate that place.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: KenP (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 10:18PM
The Continuing Saga of Men’s Cornell Hockey and the Hanover Hangover.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 10:35PM
That was one of the most aggressive opponent forechecks I've seen run all season. The result certainly wasn't ideal but this is still a good team and we'll see what they have in Las Vegas next month.
Also, those Dartmouth alternates are horrendous and I wish they just used their normal home whites because those are a lot better
Also, those Dartmouth alternates are horrendous and I wish they just used their normal home whites because those are a lot better
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 11:02PM
Sadly, I figured this would be the one they'd lose, especially since Dartmouth seems to have a decent team this year.
Whatever, now that we've got that behind us, let's just continue taking care of business.
Whatever, now that we've got that behind us, let's just continue taking care of business.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: December 07, 2019 11:13PM
Jeff Hopkins '82
Sadly, I figured this would be the one they'd lose, especially since Dartmouth seems to have a decent team this year.
Whatever, now that we've got that behind us, let's just continue taking care of business.
Also our first loss in 2003, so not bad company.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: December 08, 2019 12:29AM
better than the loss to rpi two years ago after hitting #1 when we were just outplayed by a shitty team. we were better than dartmouth all night and the puck just wouldn't go in. it happens.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 08, 2019 01:57AM
All 4 Vegas teams are among the top 15 in winning percentage:
Team Winning Percentage: W- L- T Win%
1 Cornell 10- 1- 0 .909
2 Minnesota State 14- 1- 1 .906
3 North Dakota 14- 1- 2 .882
4 Clarkson 11- 3- 1 .767
5 Massachusetts 11- 4- 1 .719
6 Boston College 10- 4- 0 .714
7 Penn State 12- 5- 0 .706
8 Army West Point 11- 5- 0 .688
Ohio State 10- 4- 2 .688
10 Bowling Green 11- 5- 1 .676
11 UMass Lowell 10- 4- 4 .667
12 Denver 9- 4- 3 .656
13 Northeastern 10- 5- 2 .647
14 Arizona State 8- 4- 2 .643
15 Providence 9- 5- 3 .618
Sacred Heart 10- 6- 1 .618
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2019 01:58AM by Trotsky.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 08, 2019 03:32AM
scoop85
If nothing else the boys will have a sour taste in their mouth going into break, and will hopefully come out guns blazing in Vegas.
Agree, as much as I hate losing to Dartmouth, if you’re going to lose, this is probably the game to do it. Unlikely we’ll be tied with them at the end of the season. By losing this they have a lot to think about as they get ready for LV. For the NCAAs those games are more important than this one.
Now can anyone tell me why the first Dartmouth goal was a PP? The penalty was at 0:19 and the goal was at 2:20.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Swampy (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 08, 2019 09:27AM
[quote="Jim Hyla]
Now can anyone tell me why the first Dartmouth goal was a PP? The penalty was at 0:19 and the goal was at 2:20.[/quote]
Dartmouth is a liberal arts school?
Now can anyone tell me why the first Dartmouth goal was a PP? The penalty was at 0:19 and the goal was at 2:20.[/quote]
Dartmouth is a liberal arts school?
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: December 08, 2019 09:52AM
CBR reports that #2 Men's Hockey's 10-Game Win Streak Halts With 2-1 Loss at Dartmouth
Dartmouth Sports says UNBEATEN NO MORE! Dartmouth Stuns No. 2 Cornell, 2-1
Meanwhile the Sun states Dartmouth Ends No. 2 Men’s Hockey’s 10-Game Winning Streak
However "The Dartmouth" has nothing to say about it.
USCHO mentions it.
At least CHN reports Roundup: Dartmouth Hands Cornell 1st Loss
Many state this joke. "Dartmouth coach Bob Gaudet said, 'We managed the game so well, especially in the third period with the lead.'"
Dartmouth Sports says UNBEATEN NO MORE! Dartmouth Stuns No. 2 Cornell, 2-1
Meanwhile the Sun states Dartmouth Ends No. 2 Men’s Hockey’s 10-Game Winning Streak
However "The Dartmouth" has nothing to say about it.
USCHO mentions it.
At least CHN reports Roundup: Dartmouth Hands Cornell 1st Loss
Many state this joke. "Dartmouth coach Bob Gaudet said, 'We managed the game so well, especially in the third period with the lead.'"
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 08, 2019 10:04AM
Swampy
Jim Hyla
Now can anyone tell me why the first Dartmouth goal was a PP? The penalty was at 0:19 and the goal was at 2:20.
Dartmouth is a liberal arts school?
Arithmetic was one of the seven liberal arts of Martianus Capella.
You would know this if you had a liberal arts degree.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2019 10:07AM by Trotsky.
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: December 08, 2019 10:39AM
ugarte
better than the loss to rpi two years ago after hitting #1 when we were just outplayed by a shitty team. we were better than dartmouth all night and the puck just wouldn't go in. it happens.
We were better than Dartmouth most of the night, for sure. But when I happened to tune in in the second, I saw Dartmouth giving us fits by playing tight, physical defense and cycling on offense. When they're playing well, they look like a version of Cornell '03; we, however, are now something that has more game-to-game upside than '03 but lacks, perhaps, that crushing consistency. A further refinement of '05, let's say. For the record, I'm pleased with the transformation.
I would've liked to see us "manufacture" a tying goal, perhaps something much like that Locke goal against Harvard the previous night. Yet, I would say, Dartmouth had a lot to do with denying us the opportunity to do so.
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 09, 2019 01:00AM
I agree with the other posters who have said that, given Cornell was going to have to lose eventually, better that it was the last game of the semester against a team they badly outplayed. Dartmouth generated almost zero offense. Their first goal was on a perfect shot and their second goal Galajda should have stopped. Cornell hit three pipes and created a billion other chances. Cornell is a much better team than Dartmouth and they showed it last night. Whatever. I just hope Galajda isn't haunted by the second goal for the rest of the calendar year.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Swampy (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 09, 2019 02:22AM
Trotsky
Swampy
Jim Hyla
Now can anyone tell me why the first Dartmouth goal was a PP? The penalty was at 0:19 and the goal was at 2:20.
Dartmouth is a liberal arts school?
Arithmetic was one of the seven liberal arts of Martianus Capella.
You would know this if you had a liberal arts degree.
I do know this. “Liberal education” started with the Academy in Greece. Its name signifies an education for free people, non-slaves.
But have you seen what passes for liberal education and liberal arts in the modern corporate U? To say it’s whatever keeps butts in seats, raises “retention rates,” and keeps dollars flowing is not an exaggeration. And surely it’s sold to students as “this is what (corporate) employers want.”
Seriously, at an elite school like Dartmouth one would expect all students to be mathematically competent. So my joke was very tongue-in-cheek. But drop down a notch or two, and the joke takes on an entirely different color.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2019 02:33AM by Swampy.
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: French Rage (---.mediazone.com)
Date: December 10, 2019 12:03PM
Was it an exciting win for Dartmouth's fan?
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Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: December 10, 2019 05:26PM
French Rage
Was it an exciting win for Dartmouth's fan?
I believe their students were away, but the crowd size was reasonable. It certainly seemed larger than I remember in many other games there. So maybe they are getting better support this year. Now as far as quality of some fans, that's a different question.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 11, 2019 09:48AM
I was there for the mid to late 80s games when attendance was in double digits. There is no way on Earth it isn't better now.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: December 13, 2019 09:30AM
Last night's game was an anomaly for us," Clark said. "This was more of who we are and our game."
Soooo...it was anomalous yet more characteristic? How, exactly, does that work?
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: December 13, 2019 09:40AM
TimV
Last night's game was an anomaly for us," Clark said. "This was more of who we are and our game."
Soooo...it was anomalous yet more characteristic? How, exactly, does that work?
I think "last night" meant the Colgate 5-1 loss and "this" was our game.
Unfortunately they then went on to tie (#44 in PWR) Bentley.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: December 13, 2019 10:19AM
Ok. That's what I get for being a week behind in my reading. Carryover bad habit from college.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 13, 2019 10:46AM
Hope you all saw this column by our guy Joe ...
Now everyone read it with crossed fingers, to make sure it doesn't upset the gods..
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Now everyone read it with crossed fingers, to make sure it doesn't upset the gods..
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:16PM
Nice piece.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:21PM
Trotsky
Nice piece.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
I might give more of a shit about the truth of that one comment if that same guy weren't making that same exact comment on every CHN story that dares to suggest Cornell is good this year. Another true statement is that if we manage to win the last four (or eight) games of the year, nobody is going to care who we beat along the way. Anybody remember what Yale's SOS was on their way to a #15 PWR finish in 2013 before they ran the table?
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:33PM
My reaction exactly. Likely a western whiner. His handle is ironic.Beeeej
Trotsky
Nice piece.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
I might give more of a shit about the truth of that one comment if that same guy weren't making that same exact comment on every CHN story that dares to suggest Cornell is good this year.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:34PM
adamw
Hope you all saw this column by our guy Joe ...
Now everyone read it with crossed fingers, to make sure it doesn't upset the gods..
[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Of course I enjoyed the substance, but it was beautifully written article to boot.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:34PM
Beeeej
Trotsky
Nice piece.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
I might give more of a shit about the truth of that one comment if that same guy weren't making that same exact comment on every CHN story that dares to suggest Cornell is good this year. Another true statement is that if we manage to win the last four (or eight) games of the year, nobody is going to care who we beat along the way. Anybody remember what Yale's SOS was on their way to a #15 PWR finish in 2013 before they ran the table?
Of course that's true of virtually every team in the nation.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: December 13, 2019 01:35PM
Jim Hyla
Beeeej
Trotsky
Nice piece.
We'll know a bit more about the team after Vegas. They look great but that one Comment is also a true statement. The best team they've beaten so far is not a top 10 PWR team.
I might give more of a shit about the truth of that one comment if that same guy weren't making that same exact comment on every CHN story that dares to suggest Cornell is good this year. Another true statement is that if we manage to win the last four (or eight) games of the year, nobody is going to care who we beat along the way. Anybody remember what Yale's SOS was on their way to a #15 PWR finish in 2013 before they ran the table?
Of course that's true of virtually every team in the nation.
Precisely why his comment is meaningless.
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 13, 2019 03:00PM
"Meaningless" is overstating it. It doesn't detract from my estimate of the team's quality, but it does increase the margin of error. Wins against top teams help nail down a contender as belonging there. They raise the floor.Beeeej
Precisely why his comment is meaningless.
OTOH, I wasn't aware the commenter was a troll using that line as a bludgeon so fuck him with Kevan Melrose's pox-riddled cock.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/13/2019 03:00PM by Trotsky.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 08:28AM
The loss to Dartmouth was not due to injuries, poor ice, or any other physical factor as far as I have heard. The mental "quality" of the team at Dartmouth is suspect.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-225-141.myvzw.com)
Date: December 14, 2019 09:28AM
osorojo
The loss to Dartmouth was not due to injuries, poor ice, or any other physical factor as far as I have heard. The mental "quality" of the team at Dartmouth is suspect.
We hit three posts, sat on them the entire third period, and outshot them 40-17. They got lucky on a weird fluky goal and their goalie made a half-dozen miracle saves.
It has nothing to do with mental anything.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 10:21AM
Too soon to start making excuses. Hockey is NOT a game of chance - unless Cornell's one goal in 40 shots was a lucky goal?
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 12:22PM
osorojo
The loss to Dartmouth was not due to injuries, poor ice, or any other physical factor as far as I have heard. The mental "quality" of the team at Dartmouth is suspect.
No.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 12:22PM
osorojo
Too soon to start making excuses. Hockey is NOT a game of chance - unless Cornell's one goal in 40 shots was a lucky goal?
More no.
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 01:20PM
I can't argue with cold, hard logic and solid evidence. On any particular night any hockey team could beat any other hockey team. But you would have to be very patient and very long-lived.
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 02:06PM
I have been following Cornell Men's ice hockey ever since Roger "The Beast" Eastman stepped on Lynah's ice. I have come to sense the difference between an Excuse for a loss, such as "bad breaks" and a Reason for a loss, such as "injuries". Cornell was rated #2 - Dartmouth #29. What physical (versus mental) disabilities did Cornell suffer at game time?
Re: 2019-12-07: Dartmouth 2 Cornell 1
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: December 14, 2019 06:31PM
The difference between 2 and 29 just isn't that wide. The Astros went 0-3 against the Reds this year. Holy Cross beat Minnesota etc etc etcosorojo
I have been following Cornell Men's ice hockey ever since Roger "The Beast" Eastman stepped on Lynah's ice. I have come to sense the difference between an Excuse for a loss, such as "bad breaks" and a Reason for a loss, such as "injuries". Cornell was rated #2 - Dartmouth #29. What physical (versus mental) disabilities did Cornell suffer at game time?
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Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: CU2007 (---.nyc.rr.com)
Date: December 15, 2019 01:31AM
osorojo
The loss to Dartmouth was not due to injuries, poor ice, or any other physical factor as far as I have heard. The mental "quality" of the team at Dartmouth is suspect.
Delete your account
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 15, 2019 10:03AM
Ice hockey is not a game of chance.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-203-16.myvzw.com)
Date: December 15, 2019 10:37AM
osorojo
Ice hockey is not a game of chance.
Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 15, 2019 04:01PM
The examination of effects is not nearly as interesting as the examination of causes. A 2-1 hockey loss is an effect. "Nothing to see here folks - move on." Those who do not examine the causes and effects of the past are bound to repeat the past.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 15, 2019 07:01PM
osorojo
Those who do not examine the causes and effects of the past are bound to repeat the past.
Review of your posts suggests this is the case.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Tom Lento (199.201.64.---)
Date: December 15, 2019 09:54PM
Dafatone
osorojo
Ice hockey is not a game of chance.
Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?
Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.
All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.
Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: December 16, 2019 08:02AM
Tom Lento
Dafatone
osorojo
Ice hockey is not a game of chance.
Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?
Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.
All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.
Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.
The problem with the T & L in the CHN results is that they couldn't count past 10. We beat Brown 11-2 & BC 12-2, turning a loss and a tie into 2 wins.
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
Adam, where are you?
Edit #2: Looking at their whole results page, they can count past 10, as they have the McMaster game 14-2. So I don't know how they f'd up.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2019 08:11AM by Jim Hyla.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (94.200.55.---)
Date: December 16, 2019 08:37AM
In the old Gahden, Jim. Boston, that is.Jim Hyla
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2019 10:29AM by Al DeFlorio.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 11:29AM
By definition we can't predict random events at all or complex future events with much reliability, but we certainly must study the past events and learn from them to achieve our goals. There is not much correlation between a hockey game and a craps game - unless you're into predestination? I hope someone is looking into what the team did wrong (besides lose) in the last game so they don't do it again in the next game. There's a generic name for people who continue to make the same mistakes.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: underskill (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 11:36AM
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 11:43AM
Are you a Cornell graduate?
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 12:05PM
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 01:38PM
Jim Hyla
Tom Lento
Dafatone
osorojo
Ice hockey is not a game of chance.
Which is why there has never been an upset in the history of hockey, right?
Well, I know from The Lore that Ned Harkness never, ever, let his teams have mental lapses, so I'm guessing CHN has its history pages wrong. 11-0-1 Cornell couldn't have lost to a 6-5-0 Yale team at Lynah in early January in 1967.
All kidding aside, the CHN page for the 1966-67 Cornell results is clearly messed up - it shows Cornell losing to Brown, playing BC to a draw, and beating BU en route to the ECAC tournament title, which makes no sense at all. However, according to Wikipedia the loss to Yale did, in fact, happen, with Cornell heavily outshooting Yale and losing anyway.
Here's hoping the rest of this season ends up with the same collection of titles as the 66-67 season.
The problem with the T & L in the CHN results is that they couldn't count past 10. We beat Brown 11-2 & BC 12-2, turning a loss and a tie into 2 wins.
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
Adam, where are you?
Edit #2: Looking at their whole results page, they can count past 10, as they have the McMaster game 14-2. So I don't know how they f'd up.
I love when everyone snarks instead of just, ya know, sending a nice heads up email. Friggin millennials.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 01:39PM
osorojo
By definition we can't predict random events at all or complex future events with much reliability, but we certainly must study the past events and learn from them to achieve our goals. There is not much correlation between a hockey game and a craps game - unless you're into predestination? I hope someone is looking into what the team did wrong (besides lose) in the last game so they don't do it again in the next game. There's a generic name for people who continue to make the same mistakes.
Nah, coaches never do that ... They just wind up the players, turn on the electric vibration machine, and let them run around randomly in hopes of the right outcome.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 01:47PM
Jim Hyla
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/2019 01:48PM by adamw.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: RichH (45.56.148.---)
Date: December 16, 2019 01:57PM
adamw
Jim Hyla
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.
And then, after beating Harvard in Ithaca, they went back to the Garden for the "Boston Christmas Tournament" with Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. Maybe Ned also lobbied for us to replace BC in the Beanpot that year, too.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 02:42PM
I do what I can for you people...
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: December 16, 2019 03:41PM
underskill
Ok, so I'm an elder law attorney by day. A portion of this thread seems to have devolved into the random and disconnected rambling that I hear on an almost daily basis with certain of my clients.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 05:30PM
Do they pay you in hard candy?scoop85
underskill
Ok, so I'm an elder law attorney by day. A portion of this thread seems to have devolved into the random and disconnected rambling that I hear on an almost daily basis with certain of my clients.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: cth95 (---.hsd1.vt.comcast.net)
Date: December 16, 2019 06:26PM
That's really cool. I plugged in the games for 2003 and happened to notice we lost to Dartmouth in Hanover 5-2 before beating them later in Ithaca 6-1. I hope that bodes well for this year.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (94.200.55.---)
Date: December 16, 2019 07:10PM
No, this tournament was in the Boston Arena, not the Garden. I had already posted that the first tournament was at the Boston Garden.RichH
adamw
Jim Hyla
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.
And then, after beating Harvard in Ithaca, they went back to the Garden for the "Boston Christmas Tournament" with Northeastern, Harvard, and BU. Maybe Ned also lobbied for us to replace BC in the Beanpot that year, too.
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: December 17, 2019 08:22AM
adamw
Jim Hyla
Edit #1: Oh, and the Dec. 16-17 ECAC Holiday Tourney was at MSG, not Boston Garden.
I just looked this up again Jim, from newspaper accounts of the time. This tournament was in Boston.
Yes my bad. I always remembered us going to MSG for their holiday tournaments, we won it 4 times including the year before and the year after 1966, so my old age memory got this wrong.
Adam, I believe you also have the BC games in that tournament as being at MSG. Those also carry over into the MSU and NU pages, where the games against BC are listed as at MSG and the other games at Boston.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 17, 2019 12:53PM
Jim Hyla
Adam, I believe you also have the BC games in that tournament as being at MSG. Those also carry over into the MSU and NU pages, where the games against BC are listed as at MSG and the other games at Boston.
Fixed it - thanks.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: December 17, 2019 06:24PM
The press accounts don't do justice to Mike Doran's goal. It was a 2-on-1, with Doran trailing Ferguson. Ferguson skated straight on goal and dropped the pass to Doran. Meanwhile, Ferguson faked a shot and moved into position to screen the GK. Doran immediately shot the puck into the goal.
It's the kind of thing that stays with you for fifty years or so.
It's the kind of thing that stays with you for fifty years or so.
Re: 2019-12-07: Cornell at Dartmouth
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: December 17, 2019 06:34PM
If I close my eyes I can still see the Moeser goal from Nieuwy to win the 1986 ECAC SF in 2ot against Yale.Swampy
The press accounts don't do justice to Mike Doran's goal. It was a 2-on-1, with Doran trailing Ferguson. Ferguson skated straight on goal and dropped the pass to Doran. Meanwhile, Ferguson faked a shot and moved into position to screen the GK. Doran immediately shot the puck into the goal.
It's the kind of thing that stays with you for fifty years or so.
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