Cornell 6 - Yale 2, 11/9/2019

Video Highlights

Barron’s Hat Trick Leads No. 4 Men’s Hockey to Blowout Win Over Yale (Daily Sun)

Barron's Hat Trick Helps #4 Men's Hockey To 6-2 Rout of Yale (Cornell Hockey)

Kemp, D’Orsi Score in Loss at No. 4 Cornell (Yale Hockey)

Roundup: Barron's Hat Trick Helps Cornell Trounce Yale (CHN)

Thank you, I appreciate these. I'm based in China and ESPN/Disney have gotten wise to people using VPNs making it almost impossible to get ESPN+ to work.

do they block things like a sling box?

I know Yale is not what they used to be in terms of talent, but that was one of the worst Yale teams I've seen in years. That or the current Cornell team is just that much better. Brown appeared to be the better of the two opponents this weekend and it wouldn't surprise me if they got a home seed in March

Iceberg
I know Yale is not what they used to be in terms of talent, but that was one of the worst Yale teams I've seen in years. That or the current Cornell team is just that much better. Brown appeared to be the better of the two opponents this weekend and it wouldn't surprise me if they got a home seed in March

By the end of last season, Brown looked legitimately good. I'm not sure how much of the team they lost or what their freshman class is like, but if they're in the same ballpark as last year, you could be right.

Longer clips here:

Leahy from Malinski

Barron's Hat Trick Goal

upprdeck
do they block things like a sling box?

Used to work pretty well, it's more questionable now if it'll work well still, but I've been thinking of trying that as an option, or remotely controlling a computer based in the US.

cu155

upprdeck
do they block things like a sling box?

Used to work pretty well, it's more questionable now if it'll work well still, but I've been thinking of trying that as an option, or remotely controlling a computer based in the US.

I was in China last fall. My VPN didn't work at all. But some of the locals used VPNs that got through the government blockade, particularly on smart phones. Have you compared notes?

Swampy

cu155

upprdeck
do they block things like a sling box?

Used to work pretty well, it's more questionable now if it'll work well still, but I've been thinking of trying that as an option, or remotely controlling a computer based in the US.

I was in China last fall. My VPN didn't work at all. But some of the locals used VPNs that got through the government blockade, particularly on smart phones. Have you compared notes?

Most VPNs are super flakey. ExpressVPN was the most reliable, but now I don't know. There are others that work off and on, but right now the best bet is Google Fi with unlimited roaming capped at 80usd a month.

DL

Swampy

cu155

upprdeck
do they block things like a sling box?

Used to work pretty well, it's more questionable now if it'll work well still, but I've been thinking of trying that as an option, or remotely controlling a computer based in the US.

I was in China last fall. My VPN didn't work at all. But some of the locals used VPNs that got through the government blockade, particularly on smart phones. Have you compared notes?

Most VPNs are super flakey. ExpressVPN was the most reliable, but now I don't know. There are others that work off and on, but right now the best bet is Google Fi with unlimited roaming capped at 80usd a month.

Thanks guys I appreciate the help. The issue is not on the VPN side/China side for once. I have probably the two most stable VPNs available (Astrill would be my first choice for anyone coming to China), as well as Shadowsocks as an alternative. The issue is that on the US side ESPN/Disney have gotten really good at identifying when a user connects with a VPN so even though I'm theoretically using a US based server they are flagging me as connecting from overseas and not allowing the stream. This was not an issue up until the last 2 months or so.

Google Fi is a great solution for people that want to browse open internet. However, Google has also now realize that a small percentage of Google Fi users are using primarily for the international roaming and they have started throttling people's subscriptions (buried in their TOS is the idea that you have to spend the majority of your time in the US to use their service).

cu155

DL

Swampy

cu155

upprdeck
do they block things like a sling box?

Used to work pretty well, it's more questionable now if it'll work well still, but I've been thinking of trying that as an option, or remotely controlling a computer based in the US.

I was in China last fall. My VPN didn't work at all. But some of the locals used VPNs that got through the government blockade, particularly on smart phones. Have you compared notes?

Most VPNs are super flakey. ExpressVPN was the most reliable, but now I don't know. There are others that work off and on, but right now the best bet is Google Fi with unlimited roaming capped at 80usd a month.

Thanks guys I appreciate the help. The issue is not on the VPN side/China side for once. I have probably the two most stable VPNs available (Astrill would be my first choice for anyone coming to China), as well as Shadowsocks as an alternative. The issue is that on the US side ESPN/Disney have gotten really good at identifying when a user connects with a VPN so even though I'm theoretically using a US based server they are flagging me as connecting from overseas and not allowing the stream. This was not an issue up until the last 2 months or so.

Google Fi is a great solution for people that want to browse open internet. However, Google has also now realize that a small percentage of Google Fi users are using primarily for the international roaming and they have started throttling people's subscriptions (buried in their TOS is the idea that you have to spend the majority of your time in the US to use their service).

Ah that problem. I was in Tibet, so I was conscious of both kinds of blockage.

But even though I told them I be traveling in Asia, my own ISP, Cox Communications, blocked me from my own email, not only in China, but Nepal, Bhutan, and India too. I’ve found NordVPN to be pretty good for getting around such things, although Cox also blocks most (but not all) of Nord’s servers in the U.S. from sending email.

My wife returned to India this fall, and rather than teach the most technophobic person I know about SIM cards &tc, I switched her to Google Fi before she left for India. And there have been absolutely zero complaints, not only about service in India, but in the U.S. as well. If you knew my wife, you’d know this is high praise indeed. (She also used Nord without complaint.) It probably helps that she has a Pixel 3a, which has the technology to take advantage of FI’s carrier switching. My point is that for someone based in the U.S. who travels internationally a lot, FI’s pretty good.

some software wont even run if it sees a vpn active. alot of phone apps wont work.

ESPN is working hard on stopping these types of things.. the new disney+ service is adding on by limiting acct sharing for the espn/hulu/disney+ streams so they are working hard on location software side of things.

I checked, and it looks like they don't even make sling boxes as of 2017. I might get desperate and do something like run a live computer in the US and then connect to it remotely via Teamviewer or similar app and just remotely control the computer and then share screens...tough to get a hockey fix.

but they still sell them for $100 or so and used ones on ebay for under $50. I use mine quite a bit still.

Per CHN:

Cornell is 2nd for goals scored per game.
5th for goals against per game.
2nd for power play percentage.
And has three of the top five goals per game scorers.

Fun with small sample sizes.

JasonN95
Per CHN:

Cornell is 2nd for goals scored per game.
5th for goals against per game.
2nd for power play percentage.
And has three of the top five goals per game scorers.

Fun with small sample sizes.

But also, they've looked very proficient on offense...all four lines have.

if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

upprdeck
if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

Hint: we can't. I think this year could be something very special, but for me, I still haven't seen any actual evidence for that yet. Let's be honest, MSU, Brown, and Yale just aren't going to be competitive this year. Let's keep the over-exuberance in check for a few more weeks, at least.

Robb

upprdeck
if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

Hint: we can't. I think this year could be something very special, but for me, I still haven't seen any actual evidence for that yet. Let's be honest, MSU, Brown, and Yale just aren't going to be competitive this year. Let's keep the over-exuberance in check for a few more weeks, at least.

Friday night looms large.

Swampy

Robb

upprdeck
if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

Hint: we can't. I think this year could be something very special, but for me, I still haven't seen any actual evidence for that yet. Let's be honest, MSU, Brown, and Yale just aren't going to be competitive this year. Let's keep the over-exuberance in check for a few more weeks, at least.

Friday night looms large.

It is our first big test -- a very strong conference rival on their traditionally difficult ice. This is one of the six biggest games of the RS, along with the Harvard games and the ones against some other emergent conference power.

Trotsky

Swampy

Robb

upprdeck
if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

Hint: we can't. I think this year could be something very special, but for me, I still haven't seen any actual evidence for that yet. Let's be honest, MSU, Brown, and Yale just aren't going to be competitive this year. Let's keep the over-exuberance in check for a few more weeks, at least.

Friday night looms large.

It is our first big test -- a very strong conference rival on their traditionally difficult ice. This is one of the six biggest games of the RS, along with the Harvard games and the ones against some other emergent conference power.

It's a big game and a tough opponent. I don't want to anger any gods.

But I'm thrilled with what I've seen so far. We fought off a tough challenge in our first game. Then we won big three straight against teams we should be beating. And Brown's a pretty decent team.

Brown could conceivably be #4 after the Big 3. So could RPI, which is wild. About all we know so far is that Yale is hot garbage. Union sure seems bad, too.

Trotsky
Brown could conceivably be #4 after the Big 3. So could RPI, which is wild. About all we know so far is that Yale is hot garbage. Union sure seems bad, too.

Gone is the bizarro Mercury Retrograde version of the ECAC, ruled by Yale, Union, and Quinnipiac. Order seems to be restored with Cornell, Clarkson, and Harvard as the top dogs.

RichH
Order seems to be restored with Cornell, Clarkson, and Harvard as the top dogs.

The old ways are the best ways.

Trotsky
Brown could conceivably be #4 after the Big 3. So could RPI, which is wild. About all we know so far is that Yale is hot garbage. Union sure seems bad, too.

There really isn't much of a basis for the claim that Yale is going to be significantly worse than Brown. If I had to guess, I'd predict neither team ends up particularly good but Yale finishes ahead of Brown.

This is my favorite sentence from the Yale Daily sportswriter about last weekend's Cornell game: "While both teams wound up finishing with the same number of shots on goal, the dissimilitude of pucks that found the back of the net was not in the Bulldogs’ favor on Saturday." You can read other literary gems here. It's a throwback to the sportswriting of the 1920s and 30s, although writers like Grantland Rice and later on, Red Smith, did it much better!

dbilmes
This is my favorite sentence from the Yale Daily sportswriter about last weekend's Cornell game: "While both teams wound up finishing with the same number of shots on goal, the dissimilitude of pucks that found the back of the net was not in the Bulldogs’ favor on Saturday." You can read other literary gems here. It's a throwback to the sportswriting of the 1920s and 30s, although writers like Grantland Rice and later on, Red Smith, did it much better!

Those Bulldog chaps are not exceptionally proficient in geography either:

JARED FEL & MARGARET HEDEMAN (Yale Daily News)
The Elis then traveled up north to take on the fourth-ranked hockey team in the nation, Cornell (4–0, 2–0).

Small wonder that Daniel Coit Gilman, a geographer, Yale 1852, and A. D. White's buddy, left Yale to ascend to the presidency of the University of California and then, that of The Johns Hopkins University. Both continue to be excellent in Geography.

(Extra credit for someone who teaches me how to include a live Google Map excerpt showing Hamilton and Ithaca in upstate New York.)

dbilmes
This is my favorite sentence from the Yale Daily sportswriter about last weekend's Cornell game: "While both teams wound up finishing with the same number of shots on goal, the dissimilitude of pucks that found the back of the net was not in the Bulldogs’ favor on Saturday." You can read other literary gems here. It's a throwback to the sportswriting of the 1920s and 30s, although writers like Grantland Rice and later on, Red Smith, did it much better!

Fun fact: Grantland Rice was crap.

BearLover
There really isn't much of a basis for the claim that Yale is going to be significantly worse than Brown. If I had to guess, I'd predict neither team ends up particularly good but Yale finishes ahead of Brown.

I respectfully disagree -- my basis was the two games I watched last weekend. Brown looked like a mediocre team outplayed by a superior opponent. Yale OTOH was atrocious (and it was glorious to watch their incompetence).

If I had to predict league finish based solely on those games I'd say Brown 6, Yale 11. Allain is good enough that he can probably whip something out of that dog and maybe get them to 8, but unless they have significant, and temporary, injury trouble, they are in freefall. And it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys (except Q).

Robb

upprdeck
if we can keep up the volume of quality chances thats a good thing.

Hint: we can't. I think this year could be something very special, but for me, I still haven't seen any actual evidence for that yet. Let's be honest, MSU, Brown, and Yale just aren't going to be competitive this year. Let's keep the over-exuberance in check for a few more weeks, at least.

I agree with all of this. My key observations about this year's team, based on a grand total of 1.5 periods watched plus looking at shot attempt statistics:

1) The opposition has been weak.
2) This team is absolutely dominating weak teams - even when shots seem fairly even for stretches Cornell just has the puck all the time..
3) The PP looks like it's for real - they're making the kind of skip passes (high point to weak side post, down low to weak side point) that past Cornell teams didn't even attempt. If they can do that kind of stuff against top tier competition this team will be really dangerous.

The second and third points are encouraging. I don't think I've really seen Cornell dominate mediocre to poor opposition in this way within the last 10 years. Maybe not since 2003. But beating the tar out of bad teams on two straight weekends is something top 4 conference teams with no real hope at an NCAA title can do, too.

Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

Trotsky
Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

What I think is amazing is how confident he is and how confident and accurate he is in passing the puck and HOW CONFIDENT AND ACCURATE HE IS IN MAKING SHOTS ON GOAL!!!

The Chief Albany Bear will approve if he is as good as these games have indicated.

marty

Trotsky
Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

What I think is amazing is how confident he is and how confident and accurate he is in passing the puck and HOW CONFIDENT AND ACCURATE HE IS IN MAKING SHOTS ON GOAL!!!

The Chief Albany Bear will approve if he is as good as these games have indicated.

We had several sniper shots last weekend that made me nervously check my ticket stub to see if I'd wandered into the wrong rink.

marty

Trotsky
Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

What I think is amazing is how confident he is and how confident and accurate he is in passing the puck and HOW CONFIDENT AND ACCURATE HE IS IN MAKING SHOTS ON GOAL!!!

The Chief Albany Bear will approve if he is as good as these games have indicated.

A 21-year old freshman - it should be noted. Doesn't mean I enjoy it any less - but he barely qualifies as a freshman.

adamw

marty

Trotsky
Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

What I think is amazing is how confident he is and how confident and accurate he is in passing the puck and HOW CONFIDENT AND ACCURATE HE IS IN MAKING SHOTS ON GOAL!!!

The Chief Albany Bear will approve if he is as good as these games have indicated.

A 21-year old freshman - it should be noted. Doesn't mean I enjoy it any less - but he barely qualifies as a freshman.

Does he still have 4 years of eligibility?

adamw

marty

Trotsky
Agreed on all three points. I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman.

What I think is amazing is how confident he is and how confident and accurate he is in passing the puck and HOW CONFIDENT AND ACCURATE HE IS IN MAKING SHOTS ON GOAL!!!

The Chief Albany Bear will approve if he is as good as these games have indicated.

A 21-year old freshman - it should be noted. Doesn't mean I enjoy it any less - but he barely qualifies as a freshman.

Our legally drinking adults have been beating on higher-ranked 18 year old prospects for quite some time, now.

adamw

A 21-year old freshman - it should be noted. Doesn't mean I enjoy it any less - but he barely qualifies as a freshman.

So you're just saying he's a "quinny frosh"?

abmarks

adamw

A 21-year old freshman - it should be noted. Doesn't mean I enjoy it any less - but he barely qualifies as a freshman.

So you're just saying he's a "quinny frosh"?

At 21 he's still just a Q commit.