Polls 2019-20

Yeah I know, who cares. But "for completeness sake" here it is.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - September 16, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	0-0-0	150	1
2	Minnesota		0-0-0	133	2
3	Clarkson		0-0-0	115	3
4	Northeastern		0-0-0	96	5
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	89	4
6	Princeton		0-0-0	67	7
7	Boston University	0-0-0	48	8
8	Boston College		0-0-0	45	6
9	Ohio State		0-0-0	40	9
10	Minnesota Duluth	0-0-0	14	NR

Others receiving votes: Colgate 13, Providence 7, 
St. Lawrence 3, Harvard 2, Syracuse 2, Robert Morris 1

I care, anyway. Thank you!

Who'd Northeastern have to lick (in a gender-neutral sense) to move up from 5 to 4 without anyone playing a single game?

We may have enhanced the ceramic Dalmatian visual...

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - September 30, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota Duluth(49)	0-0-0	996	1
2	Denver		        0-0-0	891	3
3	Minnesota State	(1)	0-0-0	788	6
4	Massachusetts		0-0-0	737	2
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	673	8
6	St. Cloud		0-0-0	566	5
7	Providence		0-0-0	550	4
8	Quinnipiac		0-0-0	526	7
9	Notre Dame		0-0-0	509	10
10	Clarkson		0-0-0	500	11
11	Boston College		0-0-0	466	NR
12	Ohio State		0-0-0	449	12
13	Penn State		0-0-0	406	17
14	Western Michigan	0-0-0	371	18
15	Northeastern		0-0-0	359	9
16	Wisconsin		0-0-0	300	NR
17	Bowling Green		0-0-0	283	13
18	North Dakota		0-0-0	211	20
19	Harvard		        0-0-0	195	14
20	Arizona State		0-0-0	181	15
Others receiving votes: Minnesota 142, AIC 116, Boston University 94, 
UMass Lowell 88, Michigan 40, Northern Michigan 20, Colorado College 9, 
Brown 9, Omaha 7, Dartmouth 6, Maine 3, Bemidji State 3, 
Lake Superior 3, Union 1, Air Force 1, Niagara 1

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - September 30, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	2-0-0	150	1
2	Minnesota		2-0-0	134	2
3	Clarkson		2-0-0	116	3
4	Northeastern		0-0-0	102	4
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	83	5
6	Princeton		0-0-0	73	6
7	Boston College		2-0-0	55	8
8	Boston University	0-0-0	45	7
9	Ohio State		2-0-0	42	9
10	Minnesota Duluth	0-0-0	11	10

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 7, 
Providence 3, Harvard 2, Colgate 1, Syracuse 1

5. Very nice. And 3 ECAC in the top 10.

Wow. I hope we can live up to it.

Though I expect we'll drop a few slots before we even play a game.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Wow. I hope we can live up to it.

Though I expect we'll drop a few slots before we even play a game.

Kinda hard to judge but I'd say we'll be looking at 8 or 9 when we open.

This is the highest we have been in the initial poll since 4th in 2007.

Trotsky
This is the highest we have been in the initial poll since 4th in 2007.

Yeee… That is not an auspicious analogue.

Scersk '97

Trotsky
This is the highest we have been in the initial poll since 4th in 2007.

Yeee… That is not an auspicious analogue.

I just report em.

But it's not a bad thing to remember nothing is ever a cinch. We should be fighting for every point from the first puck drop because things do happen, as we found out with Matt.

.....hate starting so high.

We are 5 in the USA Today, too.

FWIW, CHN has us at #9.

I hate posting USA polls.

Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
September 30, 2019
	Team	               Points	(First)	Last Poll Record

1	Univer Minnesota Duluth	508	(32)	1	29-11-2
2	University of Denver	446	(2)	3	24-12-5
3	University Massachusetts371		2	31-10-0
4	Minnesota State Univer	325		6	32-8-2
5	Cornell University	268		10	21-11-4
6	Providence College	256		4	24-12-6
7	Boston College	        231		NR	14-22-3
8	St Cloud State Univer	207		5	30-6-3
9	Penn State University	201		NR	22-15-2
10	University of Notre Dame177		12	23-14-3
11	Quinnipiac University	169		7	26-10-2
12	Clarkson University	158		8	26-11-2
13	Ohio State University	155		11	20-11-5
14	Northeastern University	124		9	27-11-1
15	Western Michigan Univer	121		NR	21-15-1

Others receiving votes: Wisconsin 114, Bowling Green 64, Harvard 50, 
North Dakota 36, Minnesota 34, Arizona State 30, 
Boston University 20, AIC 7, Brown 4, Michigan 4.


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 1, 2019
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll Record

1	University of Wisconsin	190	(19)	1	2-0-0
2	University of Minnesota	171		2	2-0-0
3	Clarkson University	147		3	2-0-0
4	Northeastern University	128		4	0-0-0
5	Cornell University	109		5	0-0-0
6	Princeton University	90		6	0-0-0
7	Boston College	        69		8	2-0-0
8	Ohio State University	59		9	2-0-0
9	Boston University	53		7	0-0-0
10	Univer Minnesota Duluth	19		NR	0-0-0

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 5, Harvard 2, Providence 2, Colgate 1.

Jeff Hopkins '82
FWIW, CHN has us at #9.

Thanks.

Here is their prediction and the Cornell blurb:

 1. Minn-Duluth
 2. Denver
 3. Minn-Mankato
 4. Notre Dame
 5. BC
 6. Massachusetts
 7. Providence
 8. Penn State
 9. Cornell
10. Clarkson

Ravaged by injuries for most of the 2018-19 season, Cornell still enjoyed a remarkable year. A regular-season ECAC title, playoff championship game appearance and NCAA tournament bid (and one win) were all well-earned. And most of the players that made Cornell successful last season return to Ithaca for another chance to get the Big Red back to the Frozen Four. Mitch Vanderlaan was an important presence for Cornell even if his production is ultimately replaceable. Morgan Barron will be looked upon to make a leap offensively. Matt Nuttle and Alex McCrea played big minutes on the blue line and will be missed, but Yanni Kaldis, Alex Green and goalie Matt Galajda return. And Mike Schafer has repeatedly shown an ability to plug and play with his lineup and system. This year will be no different.

It's interesting that we made jumps from the final 2019 poll in both USCHO (8 to 5) and USA Hockey (10 to 5) while nobody else did except BC. Maybe it signifies us holding our place while other schools lost significant strength and dropped below us. Maybe it indicates that we have a larger number of players who are expected to blossom. It could be the freshman class but while they look strong I don't think they are that heralded.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - October 7, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota Duluth(39)	0-0-0	978	1
2	Denver	        (10)	2-0-0	927	2
3	Minnesota State	(1)	0-0-0	844	3
4	Massachusetts		0-0-0	767	4
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	747	5
6	Providence		1-0-0	651	7
7	St. Cloud		0-0-0	630	6
8	Notre Dame		0-0-0	550	9
9	Quinnipiac		0-0-0	528	8
10	Boston College		0-0-0	522	11
11	Clarkson		0-0-0	510	10
12	Ohio State		0-0-0	460	12
13	Penn State		0-0-0	436	13
14	Western Michigan	0-0-0	375	14
15	Northeastern		0-0-0	302	15
16	Wisconsin		0-0-0	286	16
17	Bowling Green		1-0-0	258	17
18	North Dakota		0-0-0	153	18
19	Harvard		        0-0-0	114	19
20	Boston University	1-0-0	95	NR

Others receiving votes: UMass Lowell 83, AIC 80, Minnesota 53, 
Michigan 45, Arizona State 40, Lake Superior 18, Brown 12, 
Northern Michigan 12, Colorado College 7, Michigan Tech 7, 
Dartmouth 5, Mercyhurst 2, Niagara 2, Air Force 1

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 7, 2019
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record

1	Univer Minnesota Duluth	495	(33)	1	0-0-0
2	University of Denver	448		2	2-0-0
3	Minnesota State Univer  358		4	0-0-0
4	Cornell University	327		5	0-0-0
5	Univer Massachusetts	318		3	0-0-0
6	Boston College	        283		7	0-0-0
7	Providence College	253		6	1-0-0
8	St Cloud State Univer   218		8	0-0-0
9	University of Notre Dame216		10	0-0-0
10	Penn State University	204		9	0-0-0
11	Clarkson University	180		12	0-0-0
12	Western Michigan Univer	134		15	0-0-0
13	Quinnipiac University	128		11	0-0-0
14	Ohio State University	121		13	0-0-0
15	University of Wisconsin	96		NR	0-0-0

Others receiving votes: Northeastern 67, Bowling Green 31, Harvard 22, 
Minnesota 18, North Dakota 12, Boston University 12, UMass Lowell 10, 
Arizona State 4, Brown 4, American International 2.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - October 7, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	4-0-0	150	1
2	Minnesota		4-0-0	134	2
3	Northeastern		1-0-0	110	4
4	Clarkson		3-1-0	107	3
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	75	5
6	Princeton		0-0-0	73	6
7	Boston College		4-0-0	54	7
8	Ohio State		4-0-0	52	9
9	Minnesota Duluth	1-1-0	31	10
10	Boston University	1-0-0	29	8

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 5, Harvard 2, 
Syracuse 1, Colgate 1, Mercyhurst 1

We start the season fifth in the polls. Same argument as previous years: Cornell plays hard and sometimes moves up. Cornell doesn't play - late start to the season, or over the semester break - and we always move up. Plus no injuries with that strategy. In those no-games periods, maybe ESPN can create Deepfake games where we play Harvard and win every one in an exciting come from behind.

I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

ursusminor

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Colgate did not look very good vs RIT sat night.

ECAC teams seem to struggle in early games against power conference opponents. For Ivies this makes sense -- Ivy game n is often non-Ivy opponent's game n + 4. Those differences are most pronounced early. It doesn't explain non-Ivy ECAC members' struggles.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 8, 2019
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record

1	University of Wisconsin	190	(19)	1	4-0-0
2	University of Minnesota	171		2	4-0-0
3	Northeastern University	140		4	1-0-0
4	Clarkson University	135		3	3-1-0
5	Cornell University	90		5	0-0-0
6	Princeton University	83		6	0-0-0
7	Boston College	        71		7	4-0-0
8	Ohio State University	68		8	4-0-0
9	Univer Minnesota Duluth	56		10	1-1-0
10	Boston University	34		9	1-0-0

Others receiving votes: Harvard 3, Robert Morris 3, 
Colgate 2, Mercyhurst 2.

marty

ursusminor

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Agreed.

marty
Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Not just losing. Losing 5-0 and 7-3.

Trotsky

marty
Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Not just losing. Losing 5-0 and 7-3.

Trotsky, twice in one week?
The Army score was Army 3, Union 2 (after Union going up 2-1 on a SHG).

marty

Trotsky

marty
Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Not just losing. Losing 5-0 and 7-3.

Trotsky, twice in one week?
The Army score was Army 3, Union 2 (after Union going up 2-1 on a SHG).

My mistake. Friday was the chicks.

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

It was exam week in Hamden.

USA polls aren't out yet. At least not on USCHO yet.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - October 14, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Denver	       (38)     4-0-0	979	2
2	Minnesota State	(8)	2-0-0	918	3
3	Minnesota Duluth(3)	1-1-0	882	1
4	Massachusetts		1-0-0	784	4
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	715	5
6	Boston College		2-0-0	649	10
7	Notre Dame		2-0-0	608	8
8	Quinnipiac		2-0-0	598	9
9	Penn State	(1)	2-0-0	509	13
10	Clarkson		1-0-1	506	11
11	St. Cloud		0-0-2	499	7
12	Ohio State		1-0-1	477	12
13	Providence		1-1-0	453	6
14	Western Michigan	1-0-1	401	14
15	Northeastern		2-0-0	349	15
16	North Dakota		2-0-0	278	18
17	Wisconsin		1-1-0	273	16
18	UMass Lowell		3-1-0	204	NR
19	Harvard		        0-0-0	130	19
20	Boston University	1-0-0	119	20

Others receiving votes: Bowling Green 71, Minnesota 33, Brown 11, 
Colorado College 11, Northern Michigan 8, Michigan 7, Omaha 6, 
Dartmouth 5, RIT 4, AIC 4, Robert Morris 2, Arizona State 2, 
Mercyhurst 2, Lake Superior 1, Alaska 1, Bemidji State 1



USCHO Division I Women's Poll - October 14, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(14)	6-0-0	149	1
2	Minnesota	(1)	6-0-0	136	2
3	Northeastern		3-0-0	108	3
4	Clarkson		3-1-0	105	4
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	87	5
6	Princeton		0-0-0	71	6
7	Boston College		4-0-0	58	7
8	Minnesota Duluth	3-1-0	45	9
9	Ohio State		4-2-0	42	8
10	Robert Morris		2-2-0	9	NR

Others receiving votes: Harvard 6, Boston University 4, 
Syracuse 3, New Hampshire 1, Mercyhurst 1

Jim Hyla
USA polls aren't out yet. At least not on USCHO yet.

We've moved up to 4 in USA Hockey. No first place votes. Yet.

Edit: That was last week as I continue my freefall into senility.

Trotsky
ECAC teams seem to struggle in early games against power conference opponents. For Ivies this makes sense -- Ivy game n is often non-Ivy opponent's game n + 4. Those differences are most pronounced early. It doesn't explain non-Ivy ECAC members' struggles.

Isn't the differential 7? Ivy limit 29, ECAC limit 32, others limit 36? Or am I remembering wrong? Denver's already 4 games in.

if we can hold off not playing for another 2-3 weeks we could probably get to first place

upprdeck
if we can hold off not playing for another 2-3 weeks we could probably get to first place

If we can play nothing until April, we could wind up #1 and win the NC!

Beeeej

Trotsky
ECAC teams seem to struggle in early games against power conference opponents. For Ivies this makes sense -- Ivy game n is often non-Ivy opponent's game n + 4. Those differences are most pronounced early. It doesn't explain non-Ivy ECAC members' struggles.

Isn't the differential 7? Ivy limit 29, ECAC limit 32, others limit 36? Or am I remembering wrong? Denver's already 4 games in.

IINM the differential now is 5 (29/32/34*) but not all of that is expended by early games. Factory schools also work in an extra weekend during the season, probably with a shorter winter break.

* The games in Alaska may still not count towards the limit in which case those conferences' limit is effectively 36.

USA Polls list CU Men and Women at #5. Hopefully the results will make the USCHO page soon.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll

         School             Points(First)Last Week Record Weeks in Top 15	

1 	University of Denver    497 (28)2 	4-0-0 	3
2 	Univer Minnesota Duluth 444 (2) 1 	1-0-1 	3
3 	Minnesota State Univer  428 (3) 3 	2-0-0 	3
4 	Univer of Massachusetts 346 	5 	1-0-0 	3
5 	Cornell University      337 	4 	0-0-0 	3
6 	Boston College          331 	6 	2-0-0 	3
7 	Notre Dame University   276 	9 	2-0-0 	3
8 	Penn State University   222 (1) 10 	2-0-0 	3
9 	Clarkson University     189 	11 	1-0-1 	3
10 	Quinnipiac University   180 	13 	2-0-0 	3
11 	St. Cloud State Univer  153 	8 	0-0-2 	3
12 	Providence College      138 	7 	1-1-0 	3
13 	Ohio State University   134 	14 	1-0-1 	3
14 	Northeastern University 112 	NR 	2-0-0 	2
15 	Western Michigan Univer 93 	12 	1-0-1 	3

Others receiving votes: Harvard University, 35; 
University of North Dakota, 35; University of Wisconsin, 35; 
University of Minnesota, 24; University of Massachusetts-Lowell, 14; 
Bowling Green University, 15; Air Force Academy, 13; 
Boston University, 9; Brown University, 3

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll

         School            Points(First)Last Week  Record Weeks in Top 10

1. 	University of Wisconsin, 190(19)1 	6-0-0 	4
2. 	University of Minnesota, 170 	2 	6-0-0 	4
3. 	Northeastern University, 143 	3 	3-0-0 	4
4. 	Clarkson University,     131 	4 	3-1-0 	4
5. 	Cornell University,      108 	5 	0-0-0 	4
6. 	Princeton University,     91 	6 	0-0-0 	4
7. 	Boston College,           78 	7 	4-0-0 	4
8. 	Univer Minnesota Duluth,  59 	9 	3-1-0 	3
9. 	Ohio State University,    50 	8 	4-2-0 	4
10. 	Robert Morris University,  9 	NR 	2-2-0 	1

Others Receiving Votes: Boston University, 5; Harvard University, 5; 
Mercyhurst University, 2; University of New Hampshire, 2; Syracuse University, 1.

Trotsky

Beeeej

Trotsky
ECAC teams seem to struggle in early games against power conference opponents. For Ivies this makes sense -- Ivy game n is often non-Ivy opponent's game n + 4. Those differences are most pronounced early. It doesn't explain non-Ivy ECAC members' struggles.

Isn't the differential 7? Ivy limit 29, ECAC limit 32, others limit 36? Or am I remembering wrong? Denver's already 4 games in.

IINM the differential now is 5 (29/32/34*) but not all of that is expended by early games. Factory schools also work in an extra weekend during the season, probably with a shorter winter break.

* The games in Alaska may still not count towards the limit in which case those conferences' limit is effectively 36.

The ECAC does not have a 32-game limit. I vaguely recall that there was such a limit at one time, but the non-Ivy ECAC schools can and do play 34 games. I am pretty sure that the Alaska exemption still exists.

I thought that the mandatory break was an NCAA rule, but that could be the ECAC.

ursusminor
mandatory break was an NCAA rule, but that could be the ECAC.

Tied to Xmas/New Years or each school's exam schedule? For example, Dartmouth had (has?) trimesters so their exam schedule was (is?) all sorts of fucked up.

Swampy

upprdeck
if we can hold off not playing for another 2-3 weeks we could probably get to first place

If we can play nothing until April, we could wind up #1 and win the NC!

2nd undefeated season!

marty

ursusminor

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Union is now perfect on the year. The Union football team is 6-0 and the Union hockey team is 0-6.

marty

marty

ursusminor

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Dioes that average out to 0.500?

Union is now perfect on the year. The Union football team is 6-0 and the Union hockey team is 0-6.

marty

marty

ursusminor

Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Union is now perfect on the year. The Union football team is 6-0 and the Union hockey team is 0-6.

Question is could the Union football team beat the Union hockey team on ice?

I'll do USA Polls once they're available.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - October 21, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Denver	       (47)	6-0-0	996	1
2	Minnesota State	(3)	3-0-1	948	2
3	Massachusetts		3-1-0	824	4
4	Cornell		        0-0-0	796	5
5	Notre Dame		2-0-0	691	7
6	Wisconsin		3-1-0	617	17
7	Providence		3-1-0	611	13
8	Minnesota Duluth	1-3-0	601	3
9	Quinnipiac		3-1-0	549	8
10	Boston College		2-2-0	524	6
11	Northeastern		3-0-1	502	15
12	Penn State		3-1-0	459	9
13	Clarkson		2-1-1	436	10
14	St. Cloud		0-0-2	404	11
15	Ohio State		2-1-1	352	12
16	North Dakota		2-1-1	290	16
17	Bowling Green		3-2-0	187	NR
18	Western Michigan	1-2-1	168	14
19	Harvard		        0-0-0	145	19
20	Minnesota		3-1-0	78	NR

Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan 66, Omaha 64, 
UMass Lowell 60, Michigan 54, Boston University 18, RIT 15, 
Brown 13, Alaska 10, Colorado College 7, AIC 6, 
Dartmouth 4, Arizona State 2, Holy Cross 1, Mercyhurst 1, Army 1

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - October 21, 2019
Rnk	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(13)	8-0-0	148	1
2	Minnesota	(2)	8-0-0	136	2
3	Northeastern		5-0-0	111	3
4	Clarkson		4-1-1	98	4
5	Cornell		        0-0-0	78	5
6	Boston College		6-0-0	72	7
6	Princeton		0-0-0	72	6
8	Robert Morris		2-3-1	34	10
9	Ohio State		4-2-2	28	9
10	Boston University		3-1-1	17	NR

Others receiving votes: Minnesota Duluth 9, Harvard 6, 
Mercyhurst 6, Colgate 5, Bemidji State 4, Syracuse 1

USA's Women's Poll should be out tomorrow.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Men's Poll
(2019-20 Season, Week #4 - Oct. 21)

                                       (First) Last Week Record Weeks in Top 15
1 	University of Denver,       510 (34) 	1 	6-0-0 	4
2 	Minnesota State University, 466 	3 	3-0-1 	4
3 	Cornell University,         341 	4 	0-0-0 	4
4 	University of Notre Dame,   339 	7 	2-0-0 	4
5 	University of Massachusetts,326 	4 	3-1-0 	4
6 	University of Wisconsin,    274 	NR 	3-1-0 	2
7 	Providence University,      273 	12 	3-1-0 	4
8 	University Minnesota Duluth,266 	2 	1-3-0 	4
9 	Penn State University,      197 	8 	3-1-0 	4
10 	Boston College,             181 	6 	2-2-0 	4
11 	Northeastern University,    170 	14 	3-0-1 	3
12 	Clarkson University,        151 	9 	2-1-1 	4
13 	Quinnipiac University,      148 	10 	3-1-0 	4
14 	St. Cloud State University, 114 	11 	0-0-2 	4
15 	Ohio State University,       81 	13 	2-1-1 	4

Others receiving votes: Harvard University, 35; 
University of North Dakota, 35; University of Wisconsin, 35; 
University of Minnesota, 24; University of Massachusetts-Lowell, 14; 
Bowling Green University, 15; Air Force Academy, 13; 
Boston University, 9; Brown University, 3

Trotsky

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Trotsky

marty

Trotsky
I like that Clarkson did not play and moved 12 to 11 while Q did not play and moved 11 to 13.

Q tied Brock U. on Sunday in the last minute of the third with an extra attacker. (After RPI dominated Brock on Saturday.)

Well, that sucks, because it's a perfectly reasonable explanation.

But RPI didn't make the list.

Yes, but RPI and Cornell fans can also enjoy Union losing on Saturday and Sunday.

Union is now perfect on the year. The Union football team is 6-0 and the Union hockey team is 0-6.

Question is could the Union football team beat the Union hockey team on ice?

A guy across the hall in my freshman dorm had played high school basketball in central Minnesota. He acknowledged that the school's hockey team could beat the basketball team at basketball.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Women's Poll Oct. 22)

                               (First) Last Week Record Weeks in Top 10
1. 	University of Wisconsin, 190(19)1 	8-0-0 	5
2. 	University of Minnesota, 171 	2 	8-0-0 	5
3. 	Northeastern University, 144 	3 	5-0-0 	5
4. 	Clarkson University,     124 	4 	4-1-1 	5
5. 	Cornell University,      101 	5 	0-0-0 	5
6. 	Princeton University,     92 	6 	0-0-0 	5
7. 	Boston College,           89 	7 	6-0-0 	5
8. 	Ohio State University,    44 	9 	4-2-2 	5
9. 	Robert Morris University, 39 	10 	2-3-1 	2
10. 	Boston University,        17 	NR 	3-1-1 	4

Others Receiving Votes: University of Minnesota Duluth, 10; 
Harvard University, 8; Colgate University, 6; 
Bemidji State University, 5; Mercyhurst University, 3.

Jim Hyla
USA's Women's Poll should be out tomorrow.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Men's Poll
(2019-20 Season, Week #4 - Oct. 21)

                                       (First) Last Week Record Weeks in Top 15
1 	University of Denver,       510 (34) 	1 	6-0-0 	4
2 	Minnesota State University, 466 	3 	3-0-1 	4
3 	Cornell University,         341 	4 	0-0-0 	4
4 	University of Notre Dame,   339 	7 	2-0-0 	4
5 	University of Massachusetts,326 	4 	3-1-0 	4
6 	University of Wisconsin,    274 	NR 	3-1-0 	2
7 	Providence University,      273 	12 	3-1-0 	4
8 	University Minnesota Duluth,266 	2 	1-3-0 	4
9 	Penn State University,      197 	8 	3-1-0 	4
10 	Boston College,             181 	6 	2-2-0 	4
11 	Northeastern University,    170 	14 	3-0-1 	3
12 	Clarkson University,        151 	9 	2-1-1 	4
13 	Quinnipiac University,      148 	10 	3-1-0 	4
14 	St. Cloud State University, 114 	11 	0-0-2 	4
15 	Ohio State University,       81 	13 	2-1-1 	4

Others receiving votes: Harvard University, 35; 
University of North Dakota, 35; University of Wisconsin, 35; 
University of Minnesota, 24; University of Massachusetts-Lowell, 14; 
Bowling Green University, 15; Air Force Academy, 13; 
Boston University, 9; Brown University, 3

Wow! It’s not so unexpected that we’re #3; we’re undefeated, after all. But the fact that a school that doesn’t even exist ranks #7 is truly impressive.

Swampy

Jim Hyla
USA's Women's Poll should be out tomorrow.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Men's Poll
(2019-20 Season, Week #4 - Oct. 21)

                                       (First) Last Week Record Weeks in Top 15
1 	University of Denver,       510 (34) 	1 	6-0-0 	4
2 	Minnesota State University, 466 	3 	3-0-1 	4
3 	Cornell University,         341 	4 	0-0-0 	4
4 	University of Notre Dame,   339 	7 	2-0-0 	4
5 	University of Massachusetts,326 	4 	3-1-0 	4
6 	University of Wisconsin,    274 	NR 	3-1-0 	2
7 	Providence University,      273 	12 	3-1-0 	4
8 	University Minnesota Duluth,266 	2 	1-3-0 	4
9 	Penn State University,      197 	8 	3-1-0 	4
10 	Boston College,             181 	6 	2-2-0 	4
11 	Northeastern University,    170 	14 	3-0-1 	3
12 	Clarkson University,        151 	9 	2-1-1 	4
13 	Quinnipiac University,      148 	10 	3-1-0 	4
14 	St. Cloud State University, 114 	11 	0-0-2 	4
15 	Ohio State University,       81 	13 	2-1-1 	4

Others receiving votes: Harvard University, 35; 
University of North Dakota, 35; University of Wisconsin, 35; 
University of Minnesota, 24; University of Massachusetts-Lowell, 14; 
Bowling Green University, 15; Air Force Academy, 13; 
Boston University, 9; Brown University, 3

Wow! It’s not so unexpected that we’re #3; we’re undefeated, after all. But the fact that a school that doesn’t even exist ranks #7 is truly impressive.

Look, it's the USA poll. 'nuff said!

Jim Hyla
Look, it's the USA poll. 'nuff said!

Where did you find a USA Hockey link with the votes? When I checked both USA Hockey and USCHO there was a table empty except for the school name. I wasn't even sure it was the real poll.

nm, the numbers now show on the USA site. Didn't before. Weird.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
Look, it's the USA poll. 'nuff said!

Where did you find a USA Hockey link with the votes? When I checked both USA Hockey and USCHO there was a table empty except for the school name. I wasn't even sure it was the real poll.

nm, the numbers now show on the USA site. Didn't before. Weird.

That's exactly what happens with me, but only one of the reasons I hate their polls.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
Look, it's the USA poll. 'nuff said!

Where did you find a USA Hockey link with the votes? When I checked both USA Hockey and USCHO there was a table empty except for the school name. I wasn't even sure it was the real poll.

nm, the numbers now show on the USA site. Didn't before. Weird.

That's exactly what happens with me, but only one of the reasons I hate their polls.

Whichever poll has us higher is metaphysical truth.

I'm sure the USA polls will be available sometime.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - October 28, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Denver	       (46)	6-0-0	996	1
2	Minnesota State	(4)	5-0-1	952	2
3	Massachusetts		4-1-0	861	3
4	Cornell		        0-0-0	778	4
5	Notre Dame		4-0-0	768	5
6	Minnesota Duluth	3-3-0	670	8
7	Wisconsin		4-2-0	653	6
8	Providence		4-2-0	641	7
9	Quinnipiac		4-1-0	594	9
10	Northeastern		4-1-1	562	11
11	Clarkson		3-2-1	454	13
12	Penn State		4-1-0	449	12
13	Ohio State		4-1-1	418	15
14	North Dakota		4-1-1	359	16
15	Boston College		2-3-0	329	10
16	St. Cloud		1-1-2	285	14
17	UMass Lowell		4-2-2	136	NR
18	Bowling Green		4-3-0	125	17
19	Harvard		        0-0-0	120	19
20	Northern Michigan	4-1-1	118	NR

Others receiving votes: Western Michigan 79, Omaha 35, 
Michigan 32, RIT 28, Boston University 23, Minnesota 15, 
Brown 11, Bemidji State 5, Alaska 1, Maine 1, 
Colorado College 1, Dartmouth 1

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - October 28, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Wisconsin	(15)	10-0-0	150	1
2	Minnesota		9-1-0	131	2
3	Cornell		        2-0-0	115	5
4	Northeastern		5-1-0	94	3
5	Clarkson		5-1-2	83	4
6	Princeton		2-0-0	79	6
7	Boston College		7-0-1	70	6
8	Ohio State		5-3-2	45	9
9	Boston University	5-1-1	29	10
10	Minnesota Duluth	5-3-0	18	NR

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 7, Harvard 4

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll

Men's Poll (2019-20 Season, Week #5 - Oct. 28)

Rank    School              (First) Last Week  Record  Weeks in Top 15

1 	University of Denver, (34) 510 	1 	6-0-0 	5
2 	Minnesota State University 475 	2 	5-0-1 	5
3 	University of Massachusetts399 	5 	4-1-0 	5
4 	University of Notre Dame,  393 	4 	4-0-0 	5
5 	Cornell University,        344 	3 	0-0-0 	5
6 	Univer Minnesota Duluth,   328 	8 	3-3-0 	5
7 	Providence College,        270 	7 	4-2-0 	5
8 	University of Wisconsin,   243 	6 	4-2-0 	3
9 	Quinnipiac University,     200 	13 	4-1-0 	5
10 	Northeastern University,   197 	11 	4-1-1 	5
11 	Clarkson University,       175 	12 	3-2-1 	5
12 	Penn State University,     152 	9 	4-1-0 	5
13 	Ohio State University,     117 	15 	4-1-1 	5
14 	University of North Dakota, 76 	NR 	4-1-1 	5
15 	Boston College,             66 	10 	2-3-0 	4

Others receiving votes: St. Cloud State University, 47; Northern Michigan University, 26; 
Harvard University, 21; University of Massachusetts Lowell, 16; Bowling Green University, 13; 
Boston University, 6; Brown University, 3; University of Nebraska Omaha, 2; University of Michigan, 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll

Women's Poll (2019-20 Season, Week #6 - Oct. 29)


Rank    School             (First) Last Week Record  Weeks in Top 10

1. 	University Wisconsin(19) 190  	1 	10-0-0 	6
2. 	University of Minnesota, 167 	2 	9-1-0 	6
3. 	Cornell University,      144 	5 	2-0-0 	6
4. 	Northeastern University, 118 	3 	4-1-1 	6
5. 	Princeton University,    105 	6 	2-0-0 	6
6. 	Clarkson University,     101 	4 	5-1-2 	6
7. 	Boston College,           81 	7 	7-0-1 	6
8. 	Ohio State University,    70 	8 	5-3-2 	6
9. 	Boston University,        34 	10 	5-2-1 	5
10. 	Univer Minnesota Duluth,  24 	NR 	5-3-0 	4

Others Receiving Votes: Harvard University, 7; Robert Morris University, 4.

The Rancor

Swampy

upprdeck
if we can hold off not playing for another 2-3 weeks we could probably get to first place

If we can play nothing until April, we could wind up #1 and win the NC!

2nd undefeated season!

When would we take possession of the belt?

I'll post later, but the men are 4 in both polls and women 3 in USCHO.

Brown is now higher in the polls (27) than Yale (unranked).

USCHO:

04 Cornell
08 Clarkson
15 Quinnipiac
18 Harvard
27 Brown
27 Princeton

Women rank #1 in the pairwise; men are #11.

Trotsky
Brown is now higher in the polls (27) than Yale (unranked).

USCHO:

04 Cornell
08 Clarkson
15 Quinnipiac
18 Harvard
27 Brown
27 Princeton

While Qunnipiac can never be counted out based on recent history, they seem to have taken a step back this year and may be a tad (or more) overrated.

brown a good solid team to start at home with.

Swampy
Women rank #1 in the pairwise; men are #11.

Men are 2 in pairwise on the CHN site:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Seems like at least one of the sites must be doing something wrong.

While we stay at 4 in USCHO Men's poll, our points have moved a lot closer to #3.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - November 4, 2019
Rnk	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Denver	        (49)	8-0-0	998	1
2	Massachusetts	(1)	6-1-0	925	3
3	Minnesota State		6-1-1	875	2
4	Cornell		        2-0-0	852	4
5	Notre Dame		5-0-1	807	5
6	Penn State		6-1-0	700	12
7	Minnesota Duluth	3-3-0	682	6
8	Clarkson		5-2-1	609	11
9	Ohio State		6-1-1	582	13
10	North Dakota		5-1-1	508	14
11	Providence		4-3-1	464	8
12	Wisconsin		4-4-0	390	7
13	Northeastern		4-3-1	341	10
14	UMass Lowell		6-2-2	339	17
15	Quinnipiac		4-3-0	332	9
16	Northern Michigan	6-1-1	206	20
17	Bowling Green		5-4-0	195	18
18	Harvard		        1-0-0	185	19
19	Boston College		3-4-0	177	15
20	Omaha		        4-1-1	78	NR

Others receiving votes: RIT 53, Western Michigan 47, Maine 43, 
St. Cloud 41, Arizona State 28, New Hampshire 12, Brown 11, 
Princeton 11, Boston University 4, Alaska 3, Minnesota 2


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll
Men's Poll (2019-20 Season, Week #6 - Nov. 4)

Rank    School                  (First)    Last Week    Record  Weeks in Top 15
1 	University of Denver,     (34) 510      1 	8-0-0 	6
2 	University of Massachusetts,   453 	3 	6-1-0 	6
3 	Minnesota State University,    416 	2 	6-1-1 	6
4 	Cornell University,            397 	5 	2-0-0 	6
5 	University of Notre Dame,      394 	4 	5-0-1 	6
6 	Penn State University,         307 	12 	6-1-0 	6
7 	University of Minnesota Duluth,276 	6 	3-3-0 	6
8 	Ohio State University,         238 	13 	6-1-1 	6
9 	Clarkson University,           213 	11 	5-2-1 	6
10 	University of North Dakota,    176 	14 	5-1-1 	2
11 	Providence College,            155 	7 	4-3-1 	6
12 	University of Wisconsin,        92 	8 	4-4-0 	4
13 	Northeastern University,        83 	10 	4-3-1 	6
14 	University Massachusetts Lowell 73 	NR 	6-2-2 	1
15 	Harvard University,             59 	NR 	1-0-0 	1

Others receiving votes: Quinnipiac University, 57; 
University of Northern Michigan, 48; Bowling Green University, 36; 
Boston College, 32; University of Nebraska Omaha, 18; 
Arizona State University, 9; University of Maine 7; St. Cloud State University 5; 
Brown University, 3; Rochester Institute of Technology, 3.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - November 4, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota	(14)	10-1-1	149	2
2	Wisconsin	(1)	10-1-1	136	1
3	Cornell		        4-0-0	113	3
4	Northeastern		7-1-0	99	4
5	Boston College		9-0-1	84	7
6	Clarkson		7-1-2	79	5
7	Princeton		4-1-0	64	6
8	Ohio State		7-3-2	51	8
9	Minnesota Duluth	7-3-0	27	10
10	Boston University	5-3-1	11	9

Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 8, Harvard 4

andyw2100

Swampy
Women rank #1 in the pairwise; men are #11.

Men are 2 in pairwise on the CHN site:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Seems like at least one of the sites must be doing something wrong.

Not enough data for it to be meaningful.

Jeff Hopkins '82

andyw2100

Swampy
Women rank #1 in the pairwise; men are #11.

Men are 2 in pairwise on the CHN site:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Seems like at least one of the sites must be doing something wrong.

Not enough data for it to be meaningful.

Sure. But I thought pairwise was supposed to be completely objective math. Doesn't the fact that the two sites have different pairwise rankings mean that one is doing the math wrong?

andyw2100

Jeff Hopkins '82

andyw2100

Swampy
Women rank #1 in the pairwise; men are #11.

Men are 2 in pairwise on the CHN site:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Seems like at least one of the sites must be doing something wrong.

Not enough data for it to be meaningful.

Sure. But I thought pairwise was supposed to be completely objective math. Doesn't the fact that the two sites have different pairwise rankings mean that one is doing the math wrong?

FWIW, USCHO has our RPI @ 0.5875, and CHN has it @ 0.7075. If USCHO had the same result, we’d be #2 on USCHO too.

Trotsky
Brown is now higher in the polls (27) than Yale (unranked).

USCHO:

04 Cornell
08 Clarkson
15 Quinnipiac
18 Harvard
27 Brown
27 Princeton

Brown lost to Yale 3-2 then beat Yale like the proverbial drum, 5-1. Brown also killed all of Yale’s penalty opportunities.

upprdeck
brown a good solid team to start at home with.

* Yann Denis back for a fifth year and a shot at the Hobey, perhaps.
* Or maybe some recruits who got confused and mistook Brown for Providence ...
* The way the occasional Cornell aspirant looks to Mount Vernon, Iowa, as entree to the Ivies

billhoward

upprdeck
brown a good solid team to start at home with.

* Yann Denis back for a fifth year and a shot at the Hobey, perhaps.
* Or maybe some recruits who got confused and mistook Brown for Providence ...
* The way the occasional Cornell aspirant looks to Mount Vernon, Iowa, as entree to the Ivies

Brown's GK, Gavin Nieto, also put up some pretty impressive figures last weekend: 57 saves/60 shots, 93.4% save percentage, and 2.03 GAA.

In contrast, Galajda saved 45/49 shots, with a 91.8% save percentage, and 2.00 GAA.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll
Women's Poll (2019-20 Season, Week #7 - Nov. 5)

Rank    School           (First)    Last Week Record   Weeks in Top 10
1. 	Univer Minnesota,   (19) 190  	2 	10-1-1 	7
2. 	University of Wisconsin, 171 	1 	10-1-1 	7
3. 	Cornell University,      139 	3 	4-0-0 	7
4. 	Northeastern University, 125 	4 	7-1-0 	7
5. 	Clarkson University,     107 	6 	7-1-2 	7
6. 	Boston College,          104 	7 	9-0-1 	7
7. 	Princeton University,     83 	5 	4-1-0 	7
8. 	Ohio State University,    64 	8 	7-3-2 	7
9. 	Univer Minnesota Duluth,  39 	10 	7-3-0 	5
10. 	Boston University,        13 	9 	5-3-1 	6

Others Receiving Votes: Robert Morris University, 6; Harvard University, 4.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - November 11, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota State	(25)	8-1-1	961	3
2	Denver	        (15)	8-1-1	913	1
3	Cornell	        (5)	4-0-0	890	4
4	Notre Dame	(4)	7-0-1	882	5
5	Massachusetts	(1)	6-2-0	774	2
6	Minnesota Duluth	4-3-1	734	7
7	Clarkson		7-2-1	671	8
8	Penn State		7-2-0	639	6
9	North Dakota		7-1-1	620	10
10	Providence		5-3-2	473	11
11	Ohio State		6-3-1	470	9
12	UMass Lowell		7-2-3	406	14
13	Harvard		        3-0-0	389	18
14	Northeastern		5-3-2	359	13
15	Wisconsin		5-5-0	307	12
16	Boston College		5-4-0	193	19
17	Bowling Green		5-4-0	166	17
18	Northern Michigan	6-2-2	160	16
19	Omaha		        5-2-1	127	20
20	Western Michigan	5-3-2	87	NR

Others receiving votes: RIT 77, Quinnipiac 75, New Hampshire 42, 
St. Cloud 33, Maine 24, Boston University 11, Arizona State 7, 
Alaska 5, Brown 5


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll
Men's Poll Nov. 11


Rank     School                        First Last Week  Record  Weeks in Top 15
1 	University of Denver,       458 (13) 	1 	8-1-1 	7
	Minnesota State University, 458 (6) 	3 	8-1-1 	7
3 	University of Notre Dame,   450 	5 	7-0-1 	7
4 	Cornell University,         432 	4 	4-0-0 	7
5 	University of Massachusetts,347 	2 	6-2-0 	7
6 	University Minnesota Duluth,311 	7 	4-3-1 	7
7 	Clarkson University,        276 	9 	7-2-1 	7
8 	Penn State University,      264 	6 	7-2-0 	7
9 	University of North Dakota, 253 	10 	7-1-1 	3
10 	Providence College,         159 	11 	5-3-2 	7
11 	Ohio State University,      153 	8 	6-3-1 	7
12 	Harvard University,         148 	15 	3-0-0 	2
13 	Univer Massachusetts Lowell 104 	14 	7-2-3 	2
14 	Northeastern University,     98 	13 	5-3-2 	7
15 	University of Wisconsin,     44 	12 	5-5-0 	5

Others Receiving Votes: Boston College, 36; University of Nebraska Omaha, 25; 
Bowling Green University, 20; University of Northern Michigan, 19; 
Quinnipiac University, 6; RIT, 6; University of Maine, 4; 
St. Cloud State University, 3; University of Minnesota, 3; 
University of New Hampshire, 2; Western Michigan University, 1.

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - November 11, 2019
Rnk	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota	(15)	10-1-1	150	1
2	Wisconsin		10-1-1	135	2
3	Cornell		        5-0-1	113	3
4	Northeastern		8-1-0	101	4
5	Clarkson		8-1-3	89	6
6	Boston College		9-1-1	72	5
7	Ohio State		7-3-2	51	8
8	Princeton		5-2-0	44	7
9	Harvard		        5-0-0	29	NR
10	Minnesota Duluth	7-3-0	23	9

Others receiving votes: Boston University 12, Robert Morris 6

The USCHO.com poll has Cornell #3 and Clarkson #7. Big game on Friday--a top 10 ECAC matchup.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine College Hockey Poll
Women's Poll Week #8 - Nov. 12

Rank    School                  (First) Last Week Record Weeks in Top 10
1. 	University of Minnesota,189 (18)1 	10-1-1 	8
2. 	University of Wisconsin,172 (1) 2 	10-1-1 	8
3. 	Cornell University,     144     3 	5-0-1 	8
4. 	Northeastern University 128 	4 	8-1-0 	8
5. 	Clarkson University,    115 	5 	8-1-3 	8
6. 	Boston College,          92 	6 	9-1-1 	8
7. 	Ohio State University,   75 	8 	7-3-2 	8
8. 	Princeton University,    55 	7 	5-2-0 	8
9. 	Univer Minnesota Duluth, 38 	9 	7-3-0 	6
10. 	Harvard University,      21 	NR 	5-0-0 	1

Others Receiving Votes: Boston University, 11; Robert Morris University, 5.

notre dame, duluth and umass all lost tonight. if we take care of business tomorrow i assume we move up to 3.

ugarte
notre dame, duluth and umass all lost tonight. if we take care of business tomorrow i assume we move up to 3.

Go home, ugarte, you're drunk. We're already 3.

ugarte
notre dame, duluth and umass all lost tonight. if we take care of business tomorrow i assume we move up to 3.

And Denver tied, for NCAA purposes. (They actually lost in the second OT.)

Trotsky

ugarte
notre dame, duluth and umass all lost tonight. if we take care of business tomorrow i assume we move up to 3.

Go home, ugarte, you're drunk. We're already 3.

usa today is the only newspaper i read, since i live in a la quinta.

ugarte

Trotsky

ugarte
notre dame, duluth and umass all lost tonight. if we take care of business tomorrow i assume we move up to 3.

Go home, ugarte, you're drunk. We're already 3.

usa today is the only newspaper i read, since i live in a la quinta.

How is Gideons polling us?

This is a strange feeling. Normally after a win, and especially after a weekend sweep, I’m banging the refresh button on the PWR and KRACH pages like a coked out lab rat, just to see how much we climbed. Right now, when we’re #1 in everything, it almost takes some of the joy....nah, can’t say it with a straight face. THIS IS AWESOME!

Good chance we’ll be #2 next week after Denver goes 0-1-1 and Notre Dame lost last night too

You never know. They might throw NoDak all the way to 2. Western Bias (TM).

The Cornell men and women are now a combined 13-0-1 overall, 9-0-1 in conference.

Harvard's are 10-0-0 in each.

It's a Fish & Fowl World.

Trotsky
The Cornell men and women are now a combined 13-0-1 overall, 9-0-1 in conference.

Harvard's are 10-0-0 in each.

It's a Fish & Fowl World.

Well, between now and the end of Xmas break, we play Q, P-ton, BU, (13) Harvard, (11) tOSU, and (10) Providence/Army.

Hahvad plays RIP, (16) BC, BU, (<= 3) us, Colgate, and 2xASU.

We've got the tougher path, but H always has trouble with those pesky prols from the other side of the river.

Our SOS currently ranks 8th, while Sucks ranks 30th.

Hopefully, we'll see some separation.

Swampy

Trotsky
The Cornell men and women are now a combined 13-0-1 overall, 9-0-1 in conference.

Harvard's are 10-0-0 in each.

It's a Fish & Fowl World.

Well, between now and the end of Xmas break, we play Q, P-ton, BU, (13) Harvard, (11) tOSU, and (10) Providence/Army.

Hahvad plays RIP, (16) BC, BU, (<= 3) us, Colgate, and 2xASU.

We've got the tougher path, but H always has trouble with those pesky prols from the other side of the river.

Our SOS currently ranks 8th, while Sucks ranks 30th.

Hopefully, we'll see some separation.

Just win baby, just win!!

Signs that Harvard and Cornell will regress: the Crimson's shooting percentage (18.2%) is first in the country, and the Big Red's (15.8%) is second. Meanwhile, Harvard's save percentage (96.2%) is far and away number one in the nation. Cornell's (92.6%) is tied for tenth, though that is in line with Galajda's and Cornell's historical save percentages, and so may not regress much if at all.

BearLover
Signs that Harvard and Cornell will regress: the Crimson's shooting percentage (18.2%) is first in the country, and the Big Red's (15.8%) is second. Meanwhile, Harvard's save percentage (96.2%) is far and away number one in the nation. Cornell's (92.6%) is tied for tenth, though that is in line with Galajda's and Cornell's historical save percentages, and so may not regress much if at all.

The shooting % regression will be largely due to playing stronger competition. But I think both Harvard and Cornell will continue to have a number of 5 and 6 goal games against the lighter weights in the ECAC. I think there’s a larger than usual gulf between the top 3 teams and the rest of the conference this season.

Why? Just because 8 of the bottom 16 teams in KRACH are from the ECAC?

BearLover
Signs that Harvard and Cornell will regress: the Crimson's shooting percentage (18.2%) is first in the country, and the Big Red's (15.8%) is second. Meanwhile, Harvard's save percentage (96.2%) is far and away number one in the nation. Cornell's (92.6%) is tied for tenth, though that is in line with Galajda's and Cornell's historical save percentages, and so may not regress much if at all.

I don't feel like looking this up for Harvard, but Cornell is absolutely dominating even strength shot attempts thus far. Even vs Clarkson they had a substantial advantage. IIRC the only game where Cornell didn't have a clear edge was game 1 vs MSU (basically even). That shooting percentage probably is unsustainable, but at least it's backed up by measurable signs of possession dominance.

One thing I've always wondered is how much team shooting percentage is a function of luck in college hockey. The talent differentials are much larger in D-I than in the NHL. It's possible Cornell's shooting % is huge in part because the teams they've been playing haven't been very good, so the shooters have had better looks and a lot more time.

do the numbers show the shooting % on quality chances cause thats what matters more.. you get the random game of long range tip ins and screen shots that go in but thats more luck. the open shots from inside the circles is more what you can control, at least you hope you can.

so far we are getting a good number of open looks. you might not get as many against better teams, but you better bury some of them when you get so many against the lesser teams and so far we have,

the passing has been great so far to free guys up.


I agree though after the top 3 it drops off pretty fast. if that holds true you have to win most of those games and we only have 3 against harvard/clarkson left. then who is in the next tier? really want to win all those games against the bottom 6. dart/rpi/quin can you avoid more than a couple losses against those 3? now we want to sweep clarkson and that leaves Harvard.

Rankings roundup: How the top 20 teams fared, Nov. 15-16

No. 1 Minnesota State (8-1-1)
Did not play.

No. 2 Denver (8-2-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 9 North Dakota 1 at No. 2 Denver 1 (OT)
11/16/2019 N- o. 9 North Dakota 4 at No. 2 Denver 1

No. 3 Cornell (6-0-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 3 Cornell 4 at No. 7 Clarkson 2
11/16/2019 – No. 3 Cornell 6 at St. Lawrence 1 (at Canton)

No. 4 Notre Dame (8-1-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 0 at No. 15 Wisconsin 3
11/16/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 5 at No. 15 Wisconsin 4 (OT)

No. 5 Massachusetts (7-3-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 5 Massachusetts 3 at RV Boston University 4
11/16/2019 – RV Boston University 1 at No. 5 Massachusetts 4

No. 6 Minnesota Duluth (5-4-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 6 Minnesota Duluth 1 at Miami 3
11/16/2019 – No. 6 Minnesota Duluth 3 at Miami 2

No. 7 Clarkson (8-3-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 3 Cornell 4 at No. 7 Clarkson 2
11/16/2019 – Colgate 1 at No. 7 Clarkson 5

No. 8 Penn State (9-2-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 8 Penn State 8 at Minnesota 2
11/16/2019 – No. 8 Penn State 6 at Minnesota 3

No. 9 North Dakota (8-1-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 9 North Dakota 1 at No. 2 Denver 1 (OT)
11/16/2019 – No. 9 North Dakota 4 at No. 2 Denver 1

No. 10 Providence (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 14 Northeastern 2 at No. 10 Providence 3
11/16/2019 – No. 10 Providence 3 at No. 14 Northeastern 7

No. 11 Ohio State (6-3-1)
Did not play.

No. 12 UMass Lowell (7-3-4)
11/15/2019 – No. 12 UMass Lowell 3 at Connecticut 3 (OT)
11/16/2019 – Connecticut 2 at No. 12 UMass Lowell 1

No. 13 Harvard (5-0-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 13 Harvard 4 at RV Brown 1
11/16/2019 – No. 13 Harvard 6 at Yale 1

No. 14 Northeastern (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 14 Northeastern 2 at No. 10 Providence 3
11/16/2019 – No. 10 Providence 3 at No. 14 Northeastern 7

No. 15 Wisconsin (6-6-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 0 at No. 15 Wisconsin 3
11/16/2019 – No. 4 Notre Dame 5 at No. 15 Wisconsin 4 (OT)

No. 16 Boston College (7-4-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 16 Boston College 5 at Vermont 1
11/16/2019 – No. 16 Boston College 3 at Vermont 0

No. 17 Bowling Green (7-4-0)
11/15/2019 – No. 17 Bowling Green 3 at Alaska Anchorage 1
11/16/2019 – No. 17 Bowling Green 3 at Alaska Anchorage 0

No. 18 Northern Michigan (7-3-2)
11/15/2019 – RV Alaska 1 at No. 18 Northern Michigan 2
11/16/2019 – RV Alaska 3 at No. 18 Northern Michigan 2

No. 19 Omaha (6-3-1)
11/15/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 2 at No. 20 Western Michigan 3
11/16/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 6 at No. 20 Western Michigan 3

No. 20 Western Michigan (6-4-2)
11/15/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 2 at No. 20 Western Michigan 3
11/16/2019 – No. 19 Omaha 6 at No. 20 Western Michigan 3

RV = Received Votes

Welp, from that... we could be 2.

Trotsky
Welp, from that... we could be 2.

We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

Men #2 with 13 First votes. And they are above the women. I wonder when they last did that.

USCHO Division I Men's Poll - November 18, 2019
Rnk	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota State	(36)	8-1-1	983	1
2	Cornell	        (13)	6-0-0	948	3
3	Notre Dame		8-1-1	830	4
4	Denver		        8-2-2	820	2
5	North Dakota	(1)	8-1-2	809	9
6	Penn State		9-2-0	787	8
7	Massachusetts		7-3-0	680	5
8	Clarkson		8-3-1	619	7
9	Minnesota Duluth	5-4-1	570	6
10	Harvard		        5-0-0	561	13
11	Ohio State		6-3-1	467	11
12	Providence		6-4-2	433	10
13	Northeastern		6-4-2	342	14
14	Boston College		7-4-0	341	16
15	UMass Lowell		7-3-4	266	12
16	Wisconsin		6-6-0	250	15
17	Bowling Green		7-4-0	231	17
18	Omaha		        6-3-1	148	19
19	Northern Michigan	7-3-2	137	18
20	Western Michigan	6-4-2	104	20

Others receiving votes: Maine 83, Quinnipiac 52, 
Arizona State 11, Alaska 9, RIT 7, Dartmouth 4, 
Colorado College 4, New Hampshire 3, Robert Morris 1

USCHO Division I Women's Poll - November 18, 2019
Rnk	Team	       (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll

1	Minnesota	(15)	12-1-1	150	1
2	Wisconsin		12-1-1	135	2
3	Cornell		        7-0-1	115	3
4	Northeastern		10-1-0	101	4
5	Clarkson		10-1-3	87	5
6	Boston College		10-1-1	79	6
7	Ohio State		8-3-3	56	7
8	Princeton		7-2-0	47	8
9	Harvard		        5-0-0	30	9
10	Minnesota Duluth	7-4-1	19	10

Others receiving votes: Boston University 5, Mercyhurst 1

Swampy

Trotsky
Welp, from that... we could be 2.

We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

13 first place votes. Closer to 1 than 3. Harvard up 3 slots to #10.

Swampy

Trotsky
We are indeed #2 in the USCHO poll. USA Today is always late.

Second in USAToday poll too, with 15 first place votes vs. 19 for Minnesota State.

Cornell men have not had 13+ first place votes in November since at least 1996.

Cornell's newest ranking saves me a lot of trouble. You have no idea much time I have wasted over 55 years of scrolling down through the rankings.