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Opponent News 19-20

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Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: CU2007 (---.nyc.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2020 07:16PM

adamw
We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.

Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 01:13PM

CU2007
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?

As I say often - it's impossible to really say, because it depends upon some big donor coming along and saying "please take my money" -- that's pretty much it. So you never know.

We will have news on this on CHN soon - there may be one ready to make the jump for sure - but still not sure.

The Alaska programs will probably fold eventually, but may try to hang on kicking and screaming for a while.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 01:38PM

adamw
CU2007
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?

As I say often - it's impossible to really say, because it depends upon some big donor coming along and saying "please take my money" -- that's pretty much it. So you never know...

Hey Bennett, Frank Messa called
He said U. Sucks
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 03:07PM

CU2007
adamw
We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
Amazing that Alabama-Huntsville holds on. Their president Robert Altenkirch 2011-2019 was a believer in sports as a school unifier and to that end in his stop before UAH, had taken NJIT (think CCNY Tech in Newark) into D1 basketball. (How do you unify a school around the NCAA record for consecutive defeats, 51? ) Have to see if the new guy is as supportive of UAH hockey. There is now UAH women's hockey to provide Title IX balance.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 03:09PM

billhoward
CU2007
adamw
We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?
Amazing that Alabama-Huntsville holds on. Their president Robert Altenkirch 2011-2019 was a believer in sports as a school unifier and to that end in his stop before UAH, had taken NJIT (think CCNY Tech in Newark) into D1 basketball. (How do you unify a school around the NCAA record for consecutive defeats, 51? ) Have to see if the new guy is as supportive of UAH hockey. There is now UAH women's hockey to provide Title IX balance.
IIRC, UAH also had white knights among the team alumni who saved the program with their own contributions.

I would't be shocked if UAA and UAF have a similar network, although the expenses are probably a lot higher.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 07:55PM

Harvard up 3-0 on Clarkson at the end of the first period.

C'mon, you stupid Crimson, do something right for once.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 08:10PM

Give My Regards
Harvard up 3-0 on Clarkson at the end of the first period.

C'mon, you stupid Crimson, do something right for once.

Now 4-1.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 08:22PM

Harvard is manhandling Clarkson. Total domination through 2 periods
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 08:25PM

Cop at Lynah
Harvard is manhandling Clarkson. Total domination through 2 periods

No, BC is manhandling Northeastern. Now 7-1 after 2, but it was 7-0.

Edit: Now 9-1. Somebody's pissed about the Beanpot. Just wow.

And they made the conversion. Final 10-1.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2020 09:15PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: BearLover (198.232.63.---)
Date: February 21, 2020 09:39PM

RPI beat Q 4-0. Pretty good night in-conference.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.pennnet.nat.upenn.edu)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:00PM

St. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2020 10:05PM by ice.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:13PM

ice
St. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Minny State is beating UAH 9-0 so no gaining ground there.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:24PM

ugarte
ice
St. Cloud just went ahead of ND in the second. 2-1, 2:18 left
Minny State is beating UAH 9-0 so no gaining ground there.

Duluth lost to Western Mich.

UND and St.Cloud now tied 2-2. Denver up 5-2 on Miami in the 2nd.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:29PM

If someone had told you before tonight's games started that BC would beat Northeastern 10-1, what odds would you have needed to make a bet on another game tonight winding up even more lopsided than that?

Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:44PM

St. Cloud was down 3-2 to North Dakota. They tied it a 3-3, and there was a review resulting in a major penalty against North Dakota. St. Cloud starting on the PP now.

I'm listening here: [fightinghawks.com]
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 21, 2020 10:55PM

Penn State and Minny now in OT at 3-3. The Goofer Goalie has stopped 51 out of 54 PSU shots!

The game counts as a tie in the PWR, but PSU wins it in the 3 on 3.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2020 11:10PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 21, 2020 11:04PM

St Cloud and North Dakota going into OT tied at 3.

Edit: No score in the first OT, so that's a tie as far as we're concerned.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2020 11:14PM by andyw2100.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: February 21, 2020 11:33PM

Wisco 7 ASU 6

Hands down the firewagon hockey game of the year so far. Two lead changes and final goal at 18:51 of the third. Not a surprise since that’s the way both teams have been playing all year.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2020 11:34PM by Scersk '97.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.pennnet.nat.upenn.edu)
Date: February 22, 2020 12:29AM

andyw2100

Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0

I think MS should have eased up at 5, especially given that Alabama needs to find a new conference.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 08:37PM

ice
andyw2100

Minnesota State over Alabama-Huntsville 10-0

I think MS should have eased up at 5, especially given that Alabama needs to find a new conference.

Seems like that message didn't get passed to them. They're up 7-0 in the 2nd tonight.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:04PM

Meanwhile, SLU is up 5-2 in the 3rd against Harvard. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:08PM

Iceberg
Meanwhile, SLU is up 5-2 in the 3rd against Harvard. Talk about Jekyll and Hyde

Now 5-3. uhhhh...

Edit: 6-3 final.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2020 09:22PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:25PM

St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:37PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,

20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:45PM

1 point weekend for ND but they are still at the top of the Pairwise.

Mankato bullies Huntsville 10-0 and 8-0.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:46PM

ice
Jeff Hopkins '82
St. Cloud beats N. Dakota 2-1. The games ends with some fisticuffs after the final whistle. ND skates off without shaking hands,

20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#3 Matt Kiersted 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00North Dakota#14 Jasper Weatherby 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#3 Jack Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling ROUGHING - Minor (2:00)
20:00St. Cloud State#7 Nick Poehling 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT - Misconduct (10:00)

The whole thing started when a NoDak player took a shot after the horn blew. One of the St. Cloud players took offense and jumped him at center ice.

Much ado about nothing.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:52PM

Anyone short on Ipecac can tune into the Onion Senior Night ceremony on ESPN+.

Wish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT. Onion season ticket holders can keep their ice fresh till the fall!pain
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2020 09:59PM by marty.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 22, 2020 09:57PM

marty

Wish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT.

A PP goal...
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2020 10:13PM

RPI is 8-3-1 in ECAC play in 2020, with 2 of those losses against us, since the new year. I'm wondering if they're getting hot come ECAC tourny time. (Perhaps not having to work on spreadsheets has unburdened them.)

 
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2020 10:18PM by French Rage.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: February 22, 2020 10:40PM

andyw2100
marty

Wish it had ended in a tie but Sieve Hanson let in a goal in OT.

A PP goal...

...after making 50 saves. QU attempted over 100 shots according to the broadcast. Pretty noble effort.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 23, 2020 06:01AM

French Rage
RPI is 8-3-1 in ECAC play in 2020, with 2 of those losses against us, since the new year. I'm wondering if they're getting hot come ECAC tourny time. (Perhaps not having to work on spreadsheets has unburdened them.)

OTOH, the RPI women completed a perfect ECAC season. rolleyes
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 25, 2020 12:06PM

jtwcornell91
redice
Brent Brekke was named Head Coach of the the St Lawrence Men's Ice Hockey team today.... Congrats, Brent!!!

[www.instagram.com]

So we're basically colonizing the North Country. And we've already got Don Vaughan at Colgate, although his time as a Cornell assistant was long ago.

Obviously we played against both SLU and Clarkson on the road this season, but will this weekend be the first time both men’s head coaches visiting Lynah to play *at* Cornell are both former Cornell men’s assistant coaches? Anyone know for sure?

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 06:09AM

Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 06:44AM

ursusminor
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.

RPI had more than a few vocal fans at Lynah two weeks ago. I noticed a linesman wannabe and his faux ref buddy from section 7 made the trip.

The fans who have kept their season tickets are enjoying a good season.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 07:23AM

ursusminor
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.

Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 07:36AM

scoop85
ursusminor
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.

Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.


As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.

help
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/29/2020 07:37AM by marty.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 09:34AM

Colgate: Hockey Secures Home Ice with Late Goal

Clarkson: Clarkson Settles for Tie at Colgate

The Colgate link has video of their goal, and the sparse crowd.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 09:51AM

marty
scoop85
ursusminor
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.

Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.


As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.

help

He is certainly able to do more with what he has than Appert did. Players are actually improving over four years which did not seem to ever happen with Appert.

I suspect that Cornell fans will disagree, which is fine, but I think that Smith deserves the ECAC CotY award. It is an award that an RPI coach has never received although coaches for all of the other 11 schools have. BTW, how did that award get named for Tim Taylor rather than Ned Harkness?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 29, 2020 10:09AM

COTY is subjective in many ways

RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2

Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4

so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall

Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?

Not sure either was expected.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 10:22AM

I certainly agree that it is subjective. You are correct that what Cornell did is harder. The question is how much did the coach have to do with it.

Both schools benefitted from the fact that the middle eight teams in the ECAC this year are all very mediocre. That is shown by where they all sit in the PWR. RPI is still in the upper 30's.

There have been other years when I thought that an RPI coach deserved it and didn't win it (not since before Appert.)
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 01:27PM

ursusminor
marty
scoop85
ursusminor
Lynah East seemed like Houston East (a.k.a. Beaumont) on Friday. Granted that the Harvard fan(s) had little to cheer about, but it certainly sounded on the broadcast like RPI had a larger presence than Harvard. This despite the fact that attendance in Troy has been diminishing steadily for years.

Nice to see RPI—-a school with a great hockey tradition and a core group of loyal fans—-have a resurgence.


As a season ticket holder since 1997, I confess that this is the first season that I've truly rooted for RPI. And to that credit Coach Smith. I like him so much more than Appert that I'm thinking I need to see an analyst. Instead I keep watching hockey.

help

He is certainly able to do more with what he has than Appert did. Players are actually improving over four years which did not seem to ever happen with Appert.

I suspect that Cornell fans will disagree, which is fine, but I think that Smith deserves the ECAC CotY award. It is an award that an RPI coach has never received although coaches for all of the other 11 schools have. BTW, how did that award get named for Tim Taylor rather than Ned Harkness?

Taylor probably stepped on fewer toes than Ned... Just sayin...

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 01:41PM

RPI's ECAC record pre- and post- New Year certainly lend credence to the RPI coach making a big impact once the season got rolling.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 01:41PM

Flunkies get statues; innovators win championships.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 01:44PM

Trotsky
Flunkies get statues; innovators win championships.

I'm OK with Schafer never winning another COTY if we win a NC. And I bet he is too.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 01:45PM

French Rage
Trotsky
Flunkies get statues; innovators win championships.

I'm OK with Schafer never winning another COTY if we win a NC. And I bet he is too.
Me too.

They named Cornell after the guy with the money, not the ideas.

Which is really just as well since White University would have been a little too on the nose.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 03:45PM

Old Ez had the ideas before he had the money. His wealth didn't come from outworking the other white guys.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 06:26PM

osorojo
Old Ez had the ideas before he had the money. His wealth didn't come from outworking the other white guys.

He had the ideas about certain inventions, most importantly how to make a machine that would dig a trench, lay telegraph cable, and cover it up and, when the cable proved too crappy to last underground, how to use glass insulators to sting telegraph wire on telegraph poles (I heard he invented them too, but I also have heard they were already using them in England). Before that and after he hooked up with that Morse guy, he worked his ass off.

OTOH, White had ideas like a school for any person & any subject, co-ed, electives, academic departments, a school "free from religious influences, free from political influences, and free from commercial influences" yes still engaged with the world (no idea lasts forever), etc., etc., etc.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 06:51PM

upprdeck
COTY is subjective in many ways

RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2

Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4

so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall

Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?

Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.

That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 08:28PM

BearLover
upprdeck
COTY is subjective in many ways

RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2

Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4

so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall

Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?

Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.

That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.

It Smith's favor, it does take a while to change the attitude left over from Appert. I do agree that it shouldn't be a most-improved coach award.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: February 29, 2020 08:49PM

ursusminor
BearLover
upprdeck
COTY is subjective in many ways

RPI went from 7-13-2 / 10-23-3
to 12-8-1 / 16-15-2

Cornell went from 13-5-4 / 21-11-4
to 17-2-2 / 22-2-4

so RPI went up about 5 games in the league and 6-8 ish over all
cornell went up 4 games in the league 9 less losses overall

Which is harder to do, go from not very good to .500? or from pretty good to dominant?

Not sure either was expected.
I've always found it strange CotY award is interpreted as the "Most Improved Coach" award. If that same coach was in charge the prior year when the team was worse, why does that make him a a better CotY candidate when the team improves the next year than a coach whose team was great both years? I think a coach's season should be evaluated in a vacuum based on the talent the coach had access to and the injuries the coach had to to overcome. I would not consider the prior year at all.

That is not an argument for or against Schafer/Smith, just how I believe the award should be treated.

It Smith's favor, it does take a while to change the attitude left over from Appert. I do agree that it shouldn't be a most-improved coach award.

I think the most important measurement is finish vs. preseason poll, rather than previous year. The preseason poll takes previous year into account, sure, but if a team outperforms those preseason polls, the coach is given much more consideration. RPI was picked 10th in the media, and T9 for coaches preseason poll. Now it looks like they're going to lock down a bye...that's significant in the eyes of the voters.

That said, leading a team to the #1 spot in the national polls...that's something that's hard to maintain, and is respected.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: February 29, 2020 10:26PM

So is it the coaches fault of the writers do a poor job of predicting?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 29, 2020 10:42PM

North Dakota wins in overtime.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 01, 2020 12:07AM

Trotsky
North Dakota wins in overtime.

After Western thought they won:
?s=21

 
___________________________
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: jeff '84 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 01, 2020 07:58AM

CU2007
adamw
We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.

Who do you predict adds D1 hockey in the next 5 years? And do you think the Alaska programs eventually fold?

[dailycaller.com]


“The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.

According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days...”
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: March 01, 2020 08:49AM

well they could have called the interference penalty that would have helped.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.sub-174-200-7.myvzw.com)
Date: March 01, 2020 09:16AM

WMich is sort of a bubble team, too. Rough break for them.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 01, 2020 09:49AM

jeff '84
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/28/report-university-of-illinois-hockey-team-john-buccigross/


“The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.

According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days...”

I wonder if this makes Iowa more likely. There's perennial speculation there and they actually have a great tradition in ACHA.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 01, 2020 05:53PM

jeff '84
“The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.

According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days...”

Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.

One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 01, 2020 05:55PM

adamw
jeff '84
“The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.

According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days...”

Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.

One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"

So reading between the lines, I've decoded Adam's secret message that EA Sports is releasing a college hockey video game.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 01, 2020 05:57PM

RichH
adamw
jeff '84
“The University of Illinois will reportedly be adding a college hockey team.

According to John Buccigross, the Fighting Illini will announce plans for a division one hockey team in the coming days...”

Someone has announced this at least once a month for 3 years.

One day. someone will look like a genius for being "right"

So reading between the lines, I've decoded Adam's secret message that EA Sports is releasing a college hockey video game.

Well, there is a Big 10 Hockey Conference. whistle
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 06, 2020 06:39PM

RPI's Coach Smith is one hell of a promoter.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/06/2020 06:40PM by marty.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Robb (---.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 08:31PM

#2 Minnesota State currently outshooting #57 UAA 30-6 in the second, and losing 1-0. Go Seawolves!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:20PM

Robb
#2 Minnesota State currently outshooting #57 UAA 30-6 in the second, and losing 1-0. Go Seawolves!

Now 2-2, 11-49
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:27PM

Northern's Griffin Loughran tried to check the ref tonight?
?s=21

 
___________________________
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:32PM

Whoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.

Loughran is Northern's best player with 40 points, so it's not like he's a goon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2020 09:35PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:33PM

Trotsky
Whoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.

As someone pointed out in the comments, he's probably just sealing off the boards and doesn't see the ref. Looks worse (and funnier) than it is.

 
___________________________
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:35PM

UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.

That should help put some distance between us and BC.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:35PM

andyw2100
UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.

That should help put some distance between us and BC.
Excellent.

Mankato and NoDak both winning. Mankato final shots were 53-14.

UMD winning big, I wonder if they will overtake BC. Their seniors must be up around 180 GP. (Edit: only 4 seniors, highest is 155 GP).
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2020 09:39PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2020 09:59PM

Princeton wins it in OT, on the PP!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 10:39PM

UMD, repeat defending NCAA champions and back-to-back-to-back finalists, are now #4 PWR and in line for a 1-seed.

Cornell is now the only eastern school in the top 5.

1. NoDak
2. Mankato
3. Cornell
4. Minn-Duluth

5. Denver
6. BC
7. Pedo State
8. UMass
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2020 10:40PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: March 07, 2020 10:40PM

Trotsky
andyw2100
UNH over BC in OT, 4-3.

That should help put some distance between us and BC.
Excellent.

Mankato and NoDak both winning. Mankato final shots were 53-14.

UMD winning big, I wonder if they will overtake BC. Their seniors must be up around 180 GP. (Edit: only 4 seniors, highest is 155 GP).

As of 10:30, UMD moves up to 4th, Denver to 5th, BC to 6th.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 07, 2020 10:45PM

Trotsky
UMD, repeat defending NCAA champions and back-to-back-to-back finalists, are now #4 PWR and in line for a 1-seed.

Cornell is now the only eastern school in the top 5.

1. NoDak
2. Mankato
3. Cornell
4. Minn-Duluth

5. Denver
6. BC
7. Pedo State
8. UMass

If it ended that way next weekend Duluth would seem destined for Loveland.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 08, 2020 09:57AM

Trotsky
Whoa. I was expecting an accidental collision. That really, really looks intentional, but I've never seen a guy just lose his mind like that.

Loughran is Northern's best player with 40 points, so it's not like he's a goon.

Actually - he might not just be a goon - but he is a goon. Also leads them in PIM, and is an all-around knucklehead. He speared a guy Saturday night, and got away with only 2 minutes. They lost. Season over. Went completely down the toilet after leaving Lynah. As did Michigan State in the 2nd half. Two series of events that really didn't help Cornell at all. If those teams stayed where they were at midseason, Cornell would be No. 2 in the Pairwise.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2020 11:41PM by adamw.
 
Illinois not quite there
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: April 21, 2020 11:46PM

Illinois seems have been poised to announce that they were going DI in ice hockey, with money for a new arena lined up, but the pandemic and economic uncertainty is at least postponing the formal announcement.
[www.news-gazette.com]
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: May 22, 2020 04:48PM

Alabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 22, 2020 05:02PM

Beeeej
Alabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

That seemed inevitable unfortunately.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: May 22, 2020 09:44PM

That's a shame.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: May 23, 2020 05:09PM

Speculation that one or both Alaska schools could go next.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: May 29, 2020 04:42PM

Beeeej
Alabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Reports of the Chargers’ demise were premature. As CHN reports that they’re returning for whatever upcoming season exists after an online fundraiser was successful. Definitely a stopgap, and the axe is still hovering, but quite a reversal considering players had already started to commit elsewhere.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/29/2020 05:02PM by RichH.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: May 29, 2020 04:58PM

RichH
Beeeej
Alabama-Huntsville drops men's hockey and two other sports.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

Reports of the Chargers’ demise were premature. As CHN reports that they’re returning for whatever upcoming season exists after an online fundraiser was successful. Definitely a stopgap, and the axe is still hovering, but quite a reversal considering players had already started to commit elsewhere.

Huh. Well, good for them.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: upprdeck (38.77.26.---)
Date: May 29, 2020 05:12PM

even makes you wonder about Browns decision to drop so many teams before really looking at all the choices
 
Reid Cashman new Dartmouth coach
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: June 01, 2020 05:21PM

Re: Reid Cashman new Dartmouth coach
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 01, 2020 06:02PM

One of the best opponents I've ever seen; hopefully won't continue Gaudet's cementhead ways.

Fun fact: The date of Mike Schafer's first game playing for Cornell is prior to the date of Reid Cashman's birth.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/01/2020 06:07PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Reid Cashman new Dartmouth coach
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: June 01, 2020 06:05PM

Trotsky
One of the best opponents I've ever seen, ad hopefully won't continue their cementhead ways.

Absolutely. Ton of respect for the guy. We even voted him "Most Respected Opponent" in 2007 for TBRW?.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Reid Cashman new Dartmouth coach
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: June 01, 2020 10:53PM

Beeeej
Trotsky
One of the best opponents I've ever seen, ad hopefully won't continue their cementhead ways.

Absolutely. Ton of respect for the guy. We even voted him "Most Respected Opponent" in 2007 for TBRW?.

I thought he might have a more successful pro career, but was a terrific college player. I think he’ll have a good run in Hanover if he can manage the tougher recruiting climate than he was used to at Q.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: June 05, 2020 03:46PM

Dartmouth's Shane Sellar will play for RPI in the upcoming season, assuming that there is an upcoming season, as a grad transfer. He has shown up in the RPI directory. He wouldn't have been eligible at DC for the usual Ivy reason.

Edit: He must have impressed the RPI staff a couple of years ago [www.collegehockeystats.net]. :-P
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2020 03:50PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: August 12, 2020 08:02PM

Harvard is hemorrhaging players. Reilly Walsh just signed with the Devils, and their top recruit Matthew Berniers, a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming NHL draft (and son of two Cornellians FWIW) has made a late switch from Harvard to Michigan for the upcoming season. Poor Teddy! help
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 12, 2020 09:04PM

scoop85
Harvard is hemorrhaging players. Reilly Walsh just signed with the Devils, and their top recruit Matthew Berniers, a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming NHL draft (and son of two Cornellians FWIW) has made a late switch from Harvard to Michigan for the upcoming season. Poor Teddy! help
Berniers is a killer. Hahvahd sucks.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: dbilmes (32.218.114.---)
Date: August 17, 2020 02:57PM

I wonder how many of these were hockey players.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: August 17, 2020 03:05PM

dbilmes
I wonder how many of these were hockey players.

Can't read without subscribing.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 17, 2020 03:34PM

Beeeej
dbilmes
I wonder how many of these were hockey players.

Can't read without subscribing.
You're not already a subscriber to the Grands Forks Herald?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: August 17, 2020 03:43PM

Trotsky
Beeeej
dbilmes
I wonder how many of these were hockey players.

Can't read without subscribing.
You're not already a subscriber to the Grands Forks Herald?

I was. One of many cutbacks we've had to make in these uncertain times.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: August 17, 2020 11:00PM

Beeeej
Trotsky
Beeeej
dbilmes
I wonder how many of these were hockey players.

Can't read without subscribing.
You're not already a subscriber to the Grands Forks Herald?

I was. One of many cutbacks we've had to make in these uncertain times.
They can have my Jefferson Jimplecute when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

[web.archive.org]
Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2020 11:04PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 23, 2020 11:07AM

Mike Gilligan looks great these days!
 
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