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Opponent News 19-20

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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 03:54PM

dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 03:55PM

Fun fact, according to the KRACH Monte Carlo run weekly at USCHO, Q is our most likely SF opponent at Lake Placid:

Simulated Final Standings (Monte Carlo simulation of 1026.2 possibilities; n=1,000,000):
 1. Cornell
 2. Clarkson
 3. Dartmouth
 4. Quinnipiac
——————————
 5. Harvard
 6. Colgate
 7. Yale
 8. RPI
——————————
 9. Princeton
10. Brown
11. Union
12. SLU

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2020 03:56PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 03:58PM

ugarte
dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 03:59PM

Trotsky
ugarte
dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.

Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-20.myvzw.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:20PM

blackwidow
Trotsky
Chris H82
Isn't that a low bar when compared to Q? rolleyes
My question was whether SHU belongs in the same cluster with the ECAC in the way that Q (and TBH probably UVM) does not.

I mean, the other way is 16: + SHU, Niagara, RIT, and Canisius. We could also add back Army if we still want to kick out Q (spoiler: we do).
Why do you guys want to kick Q out? Sorry im new.

Coach is a prick too
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:23PM

Trotsky
That's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?

I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:24PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
ugarte
dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.

Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2020 04:26PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: dbilmes (32.218.117.---)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:46PM

ursusminor
Trotsky
That's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?

I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
Sacred Heart is most definitely a Catholic school. An interesting note, not related to hockey, is that Bobby Valentine is their AD. He's the former Mets manager, of course, and was a three-sport All-State athlete in Stamford, CT, before going on to an injury-shortened major league career.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:48PM

ursusminor
Trotsky
That's fascinating. Maybe they could be another SLU -- small, liberal arts Catholic school. I'm all for kicking Q out. Can SHU pull its weight academically?

I am pretty sure that SLU is not a Catholic school. They are named either after the river or the county.
According to their website, not Catholic:

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 04:55PM

Sorry, I always thought they were Catholic. BTW, Saint Lawrence is awesome. His martyrdom is they fried him on a griddle, and that's his symbol.



Nice, huh?

I always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:


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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 05:20PM

Trotsky

I always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 05:31PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
ugarte
dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.

Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.

The Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.241.---)
Date: January 27, 2020 05:53PM

Trotsky
They don't fit the academic model. No need to be sorry.

Give them a chance. We should take a poll. Call it the Quinnipiac University Poll. :)
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 05:54PM

RichH
The Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.
Welp, Rand McNally sucks. (I guess it said "5.4," not "54" ).
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 05:55PM

ugarte
Trotsky

I always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.
Yea, but if they're into adoration of saints that's the Whore of Bâbylon. <-- edit: oh, snap.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2020 05:56PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 27, 2020 07:35PM

Trotsky
ugarte
Trotsky

I always thought SLU was Catholic. Their logo looks very religious to me:
I mean, still Christian just not Catholic.
Yea, but if they're into adoration of saints that's the Whore of Bâbylon. <-- edit: oh, snap.

I hate to love this website.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: January 27, 2020 10:19PM

RichH
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
ugarte
dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.
i saw that and got a little queasy at the bracketology that put them as our first round opponent. it's supposed to be a cakewalk!
According to the posts over at USCHO, they are a very impressive team and their fans dominated the tournament.

Let's see how their fans do if the tournament is further than about 30 miles away.
Bridgeport was 50 miles. Worcester is just 100 miles.

The Sacred Heart campus is 5 miles from the arena in Bridgeport.

I didn't realize it was THAT close!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: January 28, 2020 01:04PM

sacred heart is a pretty quick team this yr.. they dont play solid D but they will be pesky. our fore check would give them fits. but they would make our D be solid on the breakout
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/28/2020 01:08PM by upprdeck.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: dbilmes (32.218.117.---)
Date: January 28, 2020 02:56PM

Maybe Sacred Heart wants to have their own arena so the fans won't have their ticket prices gouged by Webster Arena/Ticketmaster. A friend of mine was planning on bringing his entire family to the Connecticut Ice Classic this past weekend. The tickets in the lower section were listed online for $45 apiece (for one day only), but he when we went to checkout his purchase, he did a double-take at the total, and saw that due to various fees and taxes, his $45 tickets were now $70 apiece. Instead, he brought them at the box office, but even there the $45 tickets ended up costing him $58 apiece. The only saving grace was that one of his daughters is a UConn student and her ticket only cost $10. He's glad that Sacred Heart is planning to have a beer garden as part of their new arena, since he enjoys having a cold brew while at the game.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 28, 2020 05:04PM

dbilmes
Sacred Heart isn't our opponent this season, but this seemed like the best place to post this. Not only did Sacred Heart convincingly defeat both Yale and Quinnipiac this past weekend in the first Connecticut Classic, it also announced plans to spend $60 million to build a 4,000-seat hockey arena. Apparently Sacred Heart has realized that men's hockey is the best sport for it become a national contender (just like Q),and is going to go for it big time.


This looks like it will be a gorgeous facility. 4,000 capacity made me raise my eyebrows at first, but it's clear from the articles they intend it to also be used for other events, concerts, and graduation. Contrast this with UConn, a school with 4x the enrollment with a hockey program in a major conference, planning to build an on-campus arena with half the capacity. Uconn seems to pout at every turn that they are being made by HEA to update their tin-can of an on-campus facility. Imagine being a UConn student, having to drive 35 minutes into Hartford for every home game, where there are 8 seats for every retirement age fan, and your band isn't allowed to play after goals because of Whaler nostalgia.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2020 09:31AM

Interesting game in Anchorage last night that ended: Mankato 2, Anchorage 2.

Three major penalties, three game misconducts, no power play goals.

During the last minute of the third period, Mankato scored two extra-attacker goals to eek out a tie.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 02, 2020 12:27PM

ice
Interesting game in Anchorage last night that ended: Mankato 2, Anchorage 2.

Three major penalties, three game misconducts, no power play goals.

During the last minute of the third period, Mankato scored two extra-attacker goals to eek out a tie.

Fire Hastings!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2020 01:56PM

In the last 30 years, Harvard has won the Beanpot twice.

Recent Beanpot winners:

2010 - BC
2011 - BC
2013 - BC
2014 - BC
2015 - BU
2016 - BC
2017 - Harvard
2018 - NE
2019 - NE

This year:

Havard(17) vs. NE(12)
BC(4) vs. BU(26)

If Havard wins it, they could move up to 12 +/- 1 and help Cornell. Ted, are you reading this?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 03, 2020 02:34PM

My favorite Beanpot stat is in the first 27 Northeastern never won, and only even played in the final twice.

SF: 2-25
F: 0-2
Overall: 2-27 .074
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 03, 2020 07:46PM

H loses 3-1 with EN goal.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2020 08:34PM

Jim Hyla
H loses 3-1 with EN goal.
They never disappoint...
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.pennnet.nat.upenn.edu)
Date: February 04, 2020 12:03AM

BU beat BC 5-4 in double overtime. The game counts as a 4-4 tie.

That will give Harvard a shot at #5 BC.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2020 12:05AM by ice.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Iceberg (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 06, 2020 01:08AM

So Kevin Sneddon is (supposedly) retiring as Vermont head coach after this season and they'll be looking for a replacement. Per some folks on USCHO, Ben Syer is one of the several people being looked at
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 06, 2020 10:33AM

Iceberg
So Kevin Sneddon is (supposedly) retiring as Vermont head coach after this season and they'll be looking for a replacement. Per some folks on USCHO, Ben Syer is one of the several people being looked at

That wouldn't surprise me. He seems to have done an excellent job on the recruiting trail and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2020 11:41AM

Ben deserves it. I've thought of him as heir apparent here (IINM didn't they promote him from assistant to associate coach?) but Mike's not going anywhere soon and Syer will be a great head coach. Vaya con Dios.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/06/2020 11:41AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 06, 2020 01:51PM

scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2020 01:51PM

sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: CAS (---.dia.static.qwest.net)
Date: February 06, 2020 02:32PM

Ben’s wife works as a senior administrator for Cornell. Hopefully that will help keep them both at Cornell for many more years.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (161.11.160.---)
Date: February 06, 2020 03:20PM

CAS
Ben’s wife works as a senior administrator for Cornell. Hopefully that will help keep them both at Cornell for many more years.

+ googol

smashfreak
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 06, 2020 03:36PM

Trotsky
sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.

Is this just for this year or forever?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: sah67 (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 06, 2020 03:39PM

Swampy
Trotsky
sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.

Is this just for this year or forever?

Since he was hired, I believe.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 06, 2020 09:17PM

sah67
Swampy
Trotsky
sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.

Is this just for this year or forever?

Since he was hired, I believe.

Yes, I'll second that belief.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 07, 2020 11:49AM

Jim Hyla
sah67
Swampy
Trotsky
sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.

Is this just for this year or forever?

Since he was hired, I believe.

Yes, I'll second that belief.

Oh.

...

Fire Schafer!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.sub-174-250-56.myvzw.com)
Date: February 07, 2020 02:55PM

Swampy
Jim Hyla
sah67
Swampy
Trotsky
sah67
scoop85
...and has been solid when he's filled in for Schafer on the bench.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Ben is undefeated when filling in for Schafer.
Correct.

Is this just for this year or forever?

Since he was hired, I believe.

Yes, I'll second that belief.

Oh.

...

Fire Schafer!

That stats-obsessed egghead is ruining our game (and the world) with his maths, after all.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/07/2020 02:56PM by RichH.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 05:59PM

Beanpot consolation game.

BC is up 5-2 on Harvard, second period.

BC scored two short-handed goals on a Harvard power play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2020 06:00PM by ice.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 06:03PM

Harvard doing everything possible to lower the ECAC in the Pairwise.

BC up 6-2 after two.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 06:24PM

Ted brings out a new goalie for the third. He's not giving up.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 06:50PM

BC wins it 7-2
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 07:52PM

In other words, Harvard does what Harvard does, i.e. sucks.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 10, 2020 07:52PM

ice
BC wins it 7-2

I know BC has some firepower, but hard to believe we were so bottled up by that same Harvard team a couple of weeks ago.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 07:55PM

And BU up 2-0 early in the finals.

The game is on NHL Network for those who'd care to watch it (using the NESN broadcast).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/10/2020 08:04PM by Jeff Hopkins '82.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 09:05PM

Now 4-2 NU in the 2nd. Wow.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 10, 2020 09:13PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Now 4-2 NU in the 2nd. Wow.

Northeastern’s PK looks similarly passive to ours this season, with similar results.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 10:22PM

BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 10, 2020 10:27PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 10:39PM

scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 10:59PM

They finished the first 5 minute OT, so officially the game is an NCAA tie.

Now in a second 20 minute OT.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 11:21PM

And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 10, 2020 11:38PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 11, 2020 08:14AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.

On just a bad call. I don't care that BU beat NU on a similar bad call a few years ago. That was a bad call. I can't easily find a video to show it, but wow.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 11, 2020 09:22AM

ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly

Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 11, 2020 09:23AM

Jim Hyla
Jeff Hopkins '82
And NU wins it with ~5 mins left in OT.

On just a bad call. I don't care that BU beat NU on a similar bad call a few years ago. That was a bad call. I can't easily find a video to show it, but wow.

A weak call, especially considering what the refs let slide prior to that point in the OT.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 11, 2020 03:33PM

scoop85
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly

Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.

It never happened.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: RichH (---.sub-174-250-58.myvzw.com)
Date: February 11, 2020 03:45PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly

Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.

It never happened.


No, I don’t think I’ll ever get over Macho Grande.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 11, 2020 03:56PM

RichH
Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
scoop85
Jeff Hopkins '82
BU ties it at 4 with 0.8 seconds left. They're going to OT!

If I’m a Northeastern fan I’d be feeling sick. A Northeastern guy was just about to skate the puck out of the zone with about 15 seconds left but turned it over and BU was able to pop one home on a goalmouth scramble. Just nuts.

Reminded me of when we beat Sucks a few years ago.
sounds more like a lacrosse game I remember less fondly

Yeah, that's probably a better (and more painful) comparison.

It never happened.


No, I don’t think I’ll ever get over Macho Grande.

You can do it, Stryker!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ice (---.pennnet.nat.upenn.edu)
Date: February 11, 2020 06:19PM

Beanpot

BU vs Northeastern Highlights:

[www.youtube.com]
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 11, 2020 10:39PM

ice
Beanpot

BU vs Northeastern Highlights:

[www.youtube.com]

Great highlights. These clips show the plays developing rather than just the few seconds before each goal. I wish Cornell would take notice.

However, the penalty that led to the tie-breaking goal is missing.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: February 12, 2020 10:07AM

marty
ice
Beanpot

BU vs Northeastern Highlights:

[www.youtube.com]

Great highlights. These clips show the plays developing rather than just the few seconds before each goal. I wish Cornell would take notice.

However, the penalty that led to the tie-breaking goal is missing.
this was my reaction to the video too, in all respects. also, a lot of saves and near-misses. defensive highlights are highlights!

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 12, 2020 01:53PM

Comparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14  Uni   @Qpc    Yal    Clk
2/15  RPI   @Prn    Brn    SLU
2/21 @Yal    Hvd   @Clk   @RPI
2/22 @Brn    Drt   @SLU   @Uni
2/28  SLU   @Cgt    RPI    Brn
2/29  Clk   @Cor    Uni    Yal

If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14    2      1      2      1
2/15    2      2      2      2
2/21    2      1      1      2
2/22    2      2      2      2
2/28    2      2      2      2
2/29    1      1      2      2
Pts    37     35     33     32

The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996.
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2020 12:40PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Scersk '97 (32.210.48.---)
Date: February 13, 2020 09:04AM

Trotsky
The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996.

Yes, it was my junior year, so there are intangibles that light the whole experience up like a Christmas tree, but that stretch run was the most exciting period of Cornell hockey that I have ever witnessed. '97 was different—a much more "cardiac kids" kind of situation. '03 was "men against boys." '05 might have come close, but I watched (mostly, listened to) that one from afar.

Nothing compares to '96: fan for life.

This year? I don't think the top 4 are going to find their Colgate. It's all about jockeying to secure the "best" quarterfinal opponent. Takes a bit of the suspense out of it, but I'll take it.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2020 12:25PM

Trotsky
Comparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14  Uni   @Prn    Yal    Clk
2/15  RPI   @Qpc    Brn    SLU
2/21 @Yal    Hvd   @Clk   @RPI
2/22 @Brn    Drt   @SLU   @Uni
2/28  SLU   @Cgt    RPI    Brn
2/29  Clk   @Cor    Uni    Yal

If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14    2      2      2      1
2/15    2      1      2      2
2/21    2      1      1      2
2/22    2      2      2      2
2/28    2      2      2      2
2/29    1      1      2      2
Pts    37     35     33     32

The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996.

If I understand what you are doing correctly, there must be an even number of 1's for each date. It looks like the Clarkson entries for 2/14 and 2/15 should be switched.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 13, 2020 12:36PM

ursusminor
If I understand what you are doing correctly, there must be an even number of 1's for each date. It looks like the Clarkson entries for 2/14 and 2/15 should be switched.

Yep. I suck. Fixed.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/13/2020 12:37PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Dafatone (206.209.15.---)
Date: February 13, 2020 03:30PM

Trotsky
Comparison of our and our opponents' remaining games.

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14  Uni   @Qpc    Yal    Clk
2/15  RPI   @Prn    Brn    SLU
2/21 @Yal    Hvd   @Clk   @RPI
2/22 @Brn    Drt   @SLU   @Uni
2/28  SLU   @Cgt    RPI    Brn
2/29  Clk   @Cor    Uni    Yal

If we projected 2 points vs non-contenders and 1 each intra-contender games:

Team  Cor    Clk    Hvd    Qpc
Pts    26     26     22     21
2/14    2      1      2      1
2/15    2      2      2      2
2/21    2      1      1      2
2/22    2      2      2      2
2/28    2      2      2      2
2/29    1      1      2      2
Pts    37     35     33     32

The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996.

I'm strangely fascinated by the fact that we, Sucks, and Q all have the same six teams remaining. Clarkson has the other six.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: DL (---.nrflva.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 13, 2020 07:56PM

Scersk '97
Trotsky
The 4th place team has not finished with 30+ points since 1996.

Yes, it was my junior year, so there are intangibles that light the whole experience up like a Christmas tree, but that stretch run was the most exciting period of Cornell hockey that I have ever witnessed. '97 was different—a much more "cardiac kids" kind of situation. '03 was "men against boys." '05 might have come close, but I watched (mostly, listened to) that one from afar.

Nothing compares to '96: fan for life.

This year? I don't think the top 4 are going to find their Colgate. It's all about jockeying to secure the "best" quarterfinal opponent. Takes a bit of the suspense out of it, but I'll take it.
+1
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 09:30PM

Watching the ot of Brown at Harvard -- Bright is empty.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 09:40PM

Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 09:56PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2020 09:57PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 10:03PM

NoDak 2 Denver 1, 13 mins to go. Denver's goaltender is Magnus Chrona, and is, I assume, also a Bond villain.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2020 10:04PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 10:07PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.

What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 11:41PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.

What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.

 
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Hostile Witness podcast

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/15/2020 11:44PM by ugarte.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 15, 2020 11:49PM

ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.

What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.

It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.

 
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 12:39AM

French Rage
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.

What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.

It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.

Hopefully it won't matter this year, but the Ivies don't get to decide what math means. Aesthetics > authority. Smash the state!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 08:46AM

Trotsky
French Rage
ugarte
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Brown ties Sucks 1-1. Yale beats Dartmouth 4-3.

Cornell wins the Ivy title.
Not yet. We are 6-1-1, 13 points with 2 games to go. Harvard finishes 5-1-4, 14 points. 1 point next weekend to win a share, 2 to win outright.

Please do not mention that abortion of 3-point wins the Ivies claims. It means nothing. The Ivy League office can fuck itself with a rusty pitching niblick.

What is the "official" scoring basis? Is it as the Ivy League page shows it or as you show it?
the one that earns a banner is the one that matters. the other one gets a rusty niblick.

It's good to win the banner, but there's also a nice sense to win it with the non-inane scoring system too.

Hopefully it won't matter this year, but the Ivies don't get to decide what math means. Aesthetics > authority. Smash the state!

Uh huh.

Nurse, get Mr. Trotsky his meds, please.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 04:19PM

CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time. St. Thomas (MN) has been talking about jumping to D-I.
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2020 04:35PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 04:35PM

Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.

When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 04:38PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.

When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.

The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.

None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2020 04:39PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 05:15PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.

When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.

The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.

None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).

Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 05:22PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.

When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.

The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.

None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).

Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
The Lumberjacks! Dr. Mrs. grew up in Flag and we have friends there.

Evidently Grand Canyon University, which is about three blocks from my new house, competes as an ACHA D-1 Indy same as UNLV. They're lunatic fundies so they shouldn't mind going into the corner.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 05:24PM

Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

that is no longer news - FYI. We reported that months ago. ASU is not going to happen, far as I know. CCHA name is most likely - to be announced this week.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.44.98.30.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 05:29PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers. They would need 3 others to get to the NC$$ conference minimum. Based on USCHO threads the Alaska schools are in serious trouble due to lack of institutional support and state budget cuts. Outside of a conference and mandatory scheduling they are fucked for games.

If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time.

When we were out in Vegas, people were saying that UNLV has a decent club team. With the success of the Golden Knights, I wonder if UNLV'd consider going D1.

The far west could really have something if UA (Tucson) joined ASU and if USC and UCLA, who competed in the 50s, brought D-I to LA. With that as a base I could then see schools like UNLV, BYU, and maybe Cal (another former program) being enticed.

None of this has anything to do with me retiring to Phoenix (why, yes, I would support admitting ASU to the ECAC).

Maybe even NAU. They've got a decent club team, too.
The Lumberjacks! Dr. Mrs. grew up in Flag and we have friends there.

Evidently Grand Canyon University, which is about three blocks from my new house, competes as an ACHA D-1 Indy same as UNLV. They're lunatic fundies so they shouldn't mind going into the corner.

Of course, Jesus would forgive their penalties, especially if they cross-checked in his name.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 05:53PM

Trotsky
CHN reporting 7 teams are leaving the WCHA to form a new conference. Wonder if Arizona State will make it an even 8? Bowling Green owns the "CCHA" label so they could revive that name.

Wait, with that many teams leaving who's left?


UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.

Ahh, the farther away schools.


If Cal and USC wanted to revive their programs now would be a pretty good time. St. Thomas (MN) has been talking about jumping to D-I.

Are they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?

 
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03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 07:53PM

French Rage
Are they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?
Coincidentally, another Indy ACHA school is UAB, which had a D-1 not all that long ago (80s at least, maybe 90s).

I have no idea what to do about Alaska other than impose a surcharge on all of D-1 hockey to defray their and their opponents' travel costs. Hockey Socialism!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 07:58PM

Trotsky
French Rage
Are they going to want to spend money getting clubs to DI so they can spend more traveling to Alaska and Alabama?
Coincidentally, another Indy ACHA school is UAB, which had a D-1 not all that long ago (80s at least, maybe 90s).

I have no idea what to do about Alaska other than impose a surcharge on all of D-1 hockey to defray their and their opponents' travel costs. Hockey Socialism!

I don't have any records of UAB ever being a thing. Do you have something that shows that?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.static.firstlight.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 08:34PM

Trotsky
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.

I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.

 
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Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 16, 2020 08:41PM

Give My Regards
Trotsky
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.

I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.

You can't fire me, I quit!
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 09:05PM

Give My Regards
Trotsky
UAA, UAF and UAH are the Leftovers.

I'll see if I can dig this up, but I think I read somewhere that UAH back in November served notice that they intend to withdraw from (what's left of) the WCHA. IIRC they were looking to join Atlantic Hockey.
According to the thread on USCHO that was a strategic move to protect themselves if the league folded, but I don't understand the details.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2020 10:55PM

Huntsville basically withdrew so that they could start looking elsewhere. That's pretty much it. Since the league basically won't exist anyway, it's somewhat irrelevant.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: abmarks (209.107.190.---)
Date: February 17, 2020 12:13PM

are there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2020 12:30PM

abmarks
are there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.

not that far West
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2020 01:58PM

abmarks
are there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.

How about D3 schools near Schenectady?
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2020 04:12PM

marty
abmarks
are there any D2 or D3 schools out west at all? If so you'd think Alaskan schools by this point would have thought about dropping down.

How about D3 schools near Schenectady?
This year that would be Union.

Yes, that's the joke, I know...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2020 04:12PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20
Posted by: Chris H82 (130.76.24.---)
Date: February 18, 2020 03:34PM

There is club hockey on the West Coast - see this well-timed article for a bit of detail:
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2020 12:01PM

New York Times on the WCHA implosion:
How Many Hockey Teams Does it Take to Make a Conference?

Pat Borzi, NYT, 2/20/20
Last June, seven schools — Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Ferris State, Northern Michigan, Michigan Tech and Lake Superior State — announced plans to withdraw from the W.C.H.A. and possibly form a new conference for the 2021-22 season. That left only Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville, the W.C.H.A.’s farthest-flung members. This week, the departing seven programs reorganized as the Central Collegiate Hockey Association, reviving the name of a conference that dissolved in the previous realignment.

Interesting about how Alaska-Anchorage is saving money:
NYT
This season, Alaska-Anchorage shifted games from the 6,290-seat Sullivan Arena downtown to the 750-seat Seawolf Sports Complex on campus, a move that Athletic Director Greg Myford said saved $200,000 annually. The complex’s capacity ranks below the W.C.H.A. minimum of 2,500 and Myford soon plans to announce fund-raising for an expansion project to increase seating to as many as 3,000. [WCHA commissioner Bill] Robertson approved the venue shift, a decision that did not sit well with some members.
... By resources and commitment, the seven departing W.C.H.A. schools have been on opposite trajectories from the others since the beginning. While Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green and the Michigan schools invested in facilities and program upgrades, the Alaska schools faced state-mandated budget cuts to higher education that threatened men’s hockey’s survival. The Alaska state budget will trim $70 million from the university system over three years. ... [reportedlty] ongoing financial issues in Alaska concerned all seven. So did lackluster play by certain schools. Alabama-Huntsville’s last winning season came in 2005-06, and Alaska-Anchorage is deep into its sixth consecutive losing season. The departing schools felt those sub-.500 seasons hampered their pursuit of at-large bids to the N.C.A.A. Tournament, where strength of schedule is a factor. Under its current configuration, the W.C.H.A. has yet to win an N.C.A.A. title. The last came in 2011, by Minnesota Duluth, now in the N.C.H.C.

Who could keep the WCHA afloat? The story notes Arizona State is the lone independent among 60 D1 hockey schools but opted not to join in 2017. St. Thomas in St. Paul, MN, is trying to get NCAA approval to jump from D3 to D1. The story adds, "Illinois soon plans to add Division I hockey but is committed to the Big Ten. Mike Snee, executive director of College Hockey Inc., a nonprofit that promotes men’s Division I hockey, said his organization is helping six schools develop Division I programs. He declined to name them, and it’s not clear if any will field teams by 2021-22."
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2020 12:01PM

New York Times on the WCHA implosion:
How Many Hockey Teams Does it Take to Make a Conference?

Pat Borzi, NYT, 2/20/20
Last June, seven schools — Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Ferris State, Northern Michigan, Michigan Tech and Lake Superior State — announced plans to withdraw from the W.C.H.A. and possibly form a new conference for the 2021-22 season. That left only Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks and Alabama-Huntsville, the W.C.H.A.’s farthest-flung members. This week, the departing seven programs reorganized as the Central Collegiate Hockey Association, reviving the name of a conference that dissolved in the previous realignment.

Interesting about how Alaska-Anchorage is saving money:
NYT
This season, Alaska-Anchorage shifted games from the 6,290-seat Sullivan Arena downtown to the 750-seat Seawolf Sports Complex on campus, a move that Athletic Director Greg Myford said saved $200,000 annually. The complex’s capacity ranks below the W.C.H.A. minimum of 2,500 and Myford soon plans to announce fund-raising for an expansion project to increase seating to as many as 3,000. [WCHA commissioner Bill] Robertson approved the venue shift, a decision that did not sit well with some members.
... By resources and commitment, the seven departing W.C.H.A. schools have been on opposite trajectories from the others since the beginning. While Minnesota State, Bemidji State, Bowling Green and the Michigan schools invested in facilities and program upgrades, the Alaska schools faced state-mandated budget cuts to higher education that threatened men’s hockey’s survival. The Alaska state budget will trim $70 million from the university system over three years. ... [reportedlty] ongoing financial issues in Alaska concerned all seven. So did lackluster play by certain schools. Alabama-Huntsville’s last winning season came in 2005-06, and Alaska-Anchorage is deep into its sixth consecutive losing season. The departing schools felt those sub-.500 seasons hampered their pursuit of at-large bids to the N.C.A.A. Tournament, where strength of schedule is a factor. Under its current configuration, the W.C.H.A. has yet to win an N.C.A.A. title. The last came in 2011, by Minnesota Duluth, now in the N.C.H.C.

Who could keep the WCHA afloat? The story notes Arizona State is the lone independent among 60 D1 hockey schools but opted not to join in 2017. St. Thomas in St. Paul, MN, is trying to get NCAA approval to jump from D3 to D1. The story adds, "Illinois soon plans to add Division I hockey but is committed to the Big Ten. Mike Snee, executive director of College Hockey Inc., a nonprofit that promotes men’s Division I hockey, said his organization is helping six schools develop Division I programs. He declined to name them, and it’s not clear if any will field teams by 2021-22."
 
Re: Opponent News 19-20 - WCHA breakup
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2020 02:57PM

We've covered all of this pretty extensively. Zero news in there. Of course, the NYT is catering to an audience that doesn't really follow it. ... If Illinois adds any time soon, I'll be surprised. There may be an announcement of a team or so soon - but it won't be a major one. Arizona State "opted not to join" because they were asking for too many things, and the WCHA basically said forget it. Not to mention it doesn't have an arena yet either.
 
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