An early look at 2019-2020

arugula

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
Progression of Cornell GF and 10+ scorers:

2015    57    Hilbrich 10
2016    79    Angello 11, Kubiak 10
2017    99    Vanderlaan 15, Angello 12, Yates 12
2018   102    Angello 13, Yates 13, Rauter 11
2019   108    Barron 15, Donaldson 12, Regush 12, Vanderlaan 11

If only.........

Speaking of... most goals by a freshman:

2000    8    Matt McRae
2001    7    Vesce
2002    4    Knoepfli
2003   13    Moulson
2004    6    Carefoot
2005    5    Scott
2006    3    Kennedy
2007   11    Greening
2008   12    R. Nash
2009    3    Collins, Ross
2010    4    D'Agostino, Esposito
2011    3    Mowrey
2012    8    Ferlin
2013    2    Hilbrich, Knisley
2014    4    Buckles
2015    2    Bliss, Tschantz
2016   11    Angello
2017    6    Malott
2018    5    Barron, Betts
2019   12    Regush

On a team without Barron we'd all be insanely high on Regush.

For fun comparison:

1985   21    Nieuwendyk

in 29 games

Great as Niuewendyk was, those were such radically different times for scoring. Just apples and oranges. Not uncommon then to see two points a game players, as Joe was the following two years.

Fair enough. In 1978 as a junior, Lance Nethery had 23 goals in 26 games.

Oh, and 60 assists.

And then there's this.

Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

arugula
Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

There was very much a stigma about COLLEGE BOY! in the 70s in the NHL. I mean, that was almost as bad as being a homosexual.

Don Cherry was making personnel decisions in the 70s. Christ, Eddie Shore wasn't dead yet.

Trotsky

arugula
Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

There was very much a stigma about COLLEGE BOY! in the 70s in the NHL. I mean, that was almost as bad as being a homosexual.

Don Cherry was making personnel decisions in the 70s. Christ, Eddie Shore wasn't dead yet.

Lance had everything that an NHL'er needed except great skating skills. If he could have refined that skill, he would have had agood NHL career.

arugula

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
Progression of Cornell GF and 10+ scorers:

2015    57    Hilbrich 10
2016    79    Angello 11, Kubiak 10
2017    99    Vanderlaan 15, Angello 12, Yates 12
2018   102    Angello 13, Yates 13, Rauter 11
2019   108    Barron 15, Donaldson 12, Regush 12, Vanderlaan 11

If only.........

Speaking of... most goals by a freshman:

2000    8    Matt McRae
2001    7    Vesce
2002    4    Knoepfli
2003   13    Moulson
2004    6    Carefoot
2005    5    Scott
2006    3    Kennedy
2007   11    Greening
2008   12    R. Nash
2009    3    Collins, Ross
2010    4    D'Agostino, Esposito
2011    3    Mowrey
2012    8    Ferlin
2013    2    Hilbrich, Knisley
2014    4    Buckles
2015    2    Bliss, Tschantz
2016   11    Angello
2017    6    Malott
2018    5    Barron, Betts
2019   12    Regush

On a team without Barron we'd all be insanely high on Regush.

For fun comparison:

1985   21    Nieuwendyk

in 29 games

Great as Niuewendyk was, those were such radically different times for scoring. Just apples and oranges. Not uncommon then to see two points a game players, as Joe was the following two years.

yeah nieuwy was probably overrated

ugarte
yeah nieuwy was probably overrated

That wasn't what he was saying.

This is what he was saying.

redice

Trotsky

arugula
Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

There was very much a stigma about COLLEGE BOY! in the 70s in the NHL. I mean, that was almost as bad as being a homosexual.

Don Cherry was making personnel decisions in the 70s. Christ, Eddie Shore wasn't dead yet.

Lance had everything that an NHL'er needed except great skating skills. If he could have refined that skill, he would have had agood NHL career.

The funny thing is that skating instruction wasn't nearly as good as it is now and skating could be considered one of the easier things to improve on the professional level. The quality of skating instruction is much better nowadays thanks to people like Laura Stamm '59

Iceberg

redice

Trotsky

arugula
Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

There was very much a stigma about COLLEGE BOY! in the 70s in the NHL. I mean, that was almost as bad as being a homosexual.

Don Cherry was making personnel decisions in the 70s. Christ, Eddie Shore wasn't dead yet.

Lance had everything that an NHL'er needed except great skating skills. If he could have refined that skill, he would have had agood NHL career.

The funny thing is that skating instruction wasn't nearly as good as it is now and skating could be considered one of the easier things to improve on the professional level. The quality of skating instruction is much better nowadays thanks to people like Laura Stamm '70

Agreed. I can only imagine the nice career that Lance could have had.. Because he was an awesome player. Man, could he EVER see the whole ice sheet!!!

redice

Iceberg

redice

Trotsky

arugula
Wow, that's nuts. Interesting too is the difference between NC$$ in the 70s versus the 80s as an NHL feeder. Nethery was even more dominant than Niuewendyk, yet had a very minor NHL career.

There was very much a stigma about COLLEGE BOY! in the 70s in the NHL. I mean, that was almost as bad as being a homosexual.

Don Cherry was making personnel decisions in the 70s. Christ, Eddie Shore wasn't dead yet.

Lance had everything that an NHL'er needed except great skating skills. If he could have refined that skill, he would have had agood NHL career.

The funny thing is that skating instruction wasn't nearly as good as it is now and skating could be considered one of the easier things to improve on the professional level. The quality of skating instruction is much better nowadays thanks to people like Laura Stamm '70

Agreed. I can only imagine the nice career that Lance could have had.. Because he was an awesome player. Man, could he EVER see the whole ice sheet!!!

He did have a pretty nice career in Europe, though, winning championships as a player in Switzerland and a coach in Germany.

Iceberg
Laura Stamm '59

Had no idea she was an alumna.

jtwcornell91

He did have a pretty nice career in Europe, though, winning championships as a player in Switzerland and a coach in Germany.

I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you're on top of that fact.

Trotsky

arugula

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Trotsky
Progression of Cornell GF and 10+ scorers:

2015    57    Hilbrich 10
2016    79    Angello 11, Kubiak 10
2017    99    Vanderlaan 15, Angello 12, Yates 12
2018   102    Angello 13, Yates 13, Rauter 11
2019   108    Barron 15, Donaldson 12, Regush 12, Vanderlaan 11

If only.........

Speaking of... most goals by a freshman:

2000    8    Matt McRae
2001    7    Vesce
2002    4    Knoepfli
2003   13    Moulson
2004    6    Carefoot
2005    5    Scott
2006    3    Kennedy
2007   11    Greening
2008   12    R. Nash
2009    3    Collins, Ross
2010    4    D'Agostino, Esposito
2011    3    Mowrey
2012    8    Ferlin
2013    2    Hilbrich, Knisley
2014    4    Buckles
2015    2    Bliss, Tschantz
2016   11    Angello
2017    6    Malott
2018    5    Barron, Betts
2019   12    Regush

On a team without Barron we'd all be insanely high on Regush.

For fun comparison:

1985   21    Nieuwendyk

in 29 games

Great as Niuewendyk was, those were such radically different times for scoring. Just apples and oranges. Not uncommon then to see two points a game players, as Joe was the following two years.

Fair enough. In 1978 as a junior, Lance Nethery had 23 goals in 26 games.

Oh, and 60 assists.

And then there's this.

Wow! and his 1960-61 team goes 19-2 and does NOT make the NCSS? [en.wikipedia.org] What's up with that?

nshapiro

Trotsky
And then there's this.

Wow! and his 1960-61 team goes 19-2 and does NOT make the NCSS? [en.wikipedia.org] What's up with that?

Their two losses were to Clarkson and RPI, so their record vs. TUC wasn't all that great. I think that was dropped from the criteria in 19x6.

Scersk '97
19x6.

This is the most oddly specific estimate I have ever seen.

nshapiro
Wow! and his 1960-61 team goes 19-2 and does NOT make the NCSS? [en.wikipedia.org] What's up with that?

This:



Bishops. Norwich. St. Nicks. Macdonald. The fuck is a "Macdonald"?

I suspect the committee made the right decision.

Trotsky

nshapiro
Wow! and his 1960-61 team goes 19-2 and does NOT make the NCSS? [en.wikipedia.org] What's up with that?

This:

scorecard_rev.jpg

Bishops. Norwich. St. Nicks. Macdonald. The fuck is a "Macdonald"?

I suspect the committee made the right decision.

Probably Macdonald College of McGill University, though it would be unusual for a unit of a larger school to have its own sports teams - at least it would today.

"In tonight's Ivy League and ECAC contest, Cornell University takes on the Cornell School of Hotel Administration!"

Trotsky

Scersk '97
19x6.

This is the most oddly specific estimate I have ever seen.

Well, in 20x6, we'll just assign the NCAA cham-peen-ship based on overall radness.

Beeeej
Probably Macdonald College of McGill University, though it would be unusual for a unit of a larger school to have its own sports teams - at least it would today.

Looks like you're right -- they didn't join McGill until 1972 so they were a separate entity at that time.


They must have had a fantastic mascot.

Trotsky

Beeeej
Probably Macdonald College of McGill University, though it would be unusual for a unit of a larger school to have its own sports teams - at least it would today.

Looks like you're right -- they didn't join McGill until 1972 so they were a separate entity at that time.


They must have had a fantastic mascot.

With a C, Trotsky. With a C.

RichH

jtwcornell91

He did have a pretty nice career in Europe, though, winning championships as a player in Switzerland and a coach in Germany.

I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you're on top of that fact.

Well, I'm actually aware of it because I watched him coach the Kölner Haie to the 1999 Spengler Cup title (with Ralph Krueger doing color commentary on the Swiss German TV broadcasts!) when I was living in Bern. IIRC, I posted about it on the old CHDF. (There is no nerd smiley with tape-repaired eyeglasses, so that one will have to do.)

Personnel alone are not a reliable indicator of success. In evidence of this look at the remarkable transformation the Brown hockey team underwent halfway through last season. Strategy, conditioning and even corny old team spirit are significant variables.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Beeeej
Probably Macdonald College of McGill University, though it would be unusual for a unit of a larger school to have its own sports teams - at least it would today.

Looks like you're right -- they didn't join McGill until 1972 so they were a separate entity at that time.


They must have had a fantastic mascot.

With a C, Trotsky. With a C.

I am picturing white hoods with a kilt

nshapiro

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Beeeej
Probably Macdonald College of McGill University, though it would be unusual for a unit of a larger school to have its own sports teams - at least it would today.

Looks like you're right -- they didn't join McGill until 1972 so they were a separate entity at that time.


They must have had a fantastic mascot.

With a C, Trotsky. With a C.

I am picturing white hoods with a kilt

Somebody's taking this a little too far...

presale for red hot hockey at MSG - presale code is PRECORNELL unless you want to sit with terriers [click.email.ticketmaster.com]

ugarte
presale for red hot hockey at MSG - presale code is PRECORNELL unless you want to sit with terriers [click.email.ticketmaster.com]

N.B. the public sale went live at noon, so while it won't likely sell out quickly, some sections will now go quickly.

ugarte
presale for red hot hockey at MSG - presale code is PRECORNELL unless you want to sit with terriers [click.email.ticketmaster.com]

If you have a BU connection, especially a brother/sister/child who's a BU student, BU offers tickets in the $15 range. Anything to get TGerrier butts in the seats.

Beeeej

ugarte
presale for red hot hockey at MSG - presale code is PRECORNELL unless you want to sit with terriers [click.email.ticketmaster.com]

N.B. the public sale went live at noon, so while it won't likely sell out quickly, some sections will now go quickly.

Based on the seating map on ticketmaster and what seemed to be available on bigredtix, seems like an awful lot of tickets (thousands) are sold already. That can’t be the case, right?

CU2007

Beeeej

ugarte
presale for red hot hockey at MSG - presale code is PRECORNELL unless you want to sit with terriers [click.email.ticketmaster.com]

N.B. the public sale went live at noon, so while it won't likely sell out quickly, some sections will now go quickly.

Based on the seating map on ticketmaster and what seemed to be available on bigredtix, seems like an awful lot of tickets (thousands) are sold already. That can’t be the case, right?

Reserved blocks that may not yet be sold. MSG season ticket holders may get set-aside allocations to buy.

I took another look today and I don't know when they went up for sale, but there are still decent/good seats in "Chase Cardmember Preferred Seating".

Prospect Story on ESPN+ — nice shoutout for Morgan Barron

New York Rangers

A prospects: Vitaly Kravtsov and K'Andre Miller
B prospects: Igor Shesterkin, Adam Fox, Nils Lundkvist, Joey Keane and Morgan Barron

The Rangers are about to get the one thing I've thought this prospect pool lacked, which is a game-changing player. Kravtsov has that upside, but whether it's Hughes or Kaapo Kakko at No. 2, New York is getting a franchise-altering player. That's a huge difference-maker for a team in the midst of a rebuild.

Miller took big strides in his first collegiate season and is poised to be one of the better blueliners in college hockey next season. Meanwhile, Shesterkin is making his long-awaited trip to North America and likely spends all or most of 2019-20 in the AHL. On top of that, the Rangers added a high-upside playmaking defensive prospect in Fox.

The Rangers also have a number of good options in their AHL system and a few others that have yet to sign with the club. One such player is Barron, who had a spectacular season for Cornell and is looking more like an NHL prospect for the future. The Blueshirts have done a nice job of adding players beneath the NHL level, but should start seeing returns over the next two seasons.

Breakout prospect: Morgan Barron

scoop85
One chapter closes another begins.

Sorry to see the departure of a terrific senior class, and we’ll be especially hit on the back line. But we seem to have another nice group of recruits, and of course our goaltending corps will be back.

At this point I’m assuming Barron will be back. If so at forward we’ll have the following:

Barron-Locke-Donaldson
Mullin-Betts-Bauld
Motley-Murphy-Malott
Andreev-Bramwell-Regush

The forward recruits are Ben Berard, the Tukper twins, and Jack Malone. They’ve all put up good numbers in Juniors, but my guess is Berard and Malone are bigger offensive threats. This looks like the deepest and best forward corps we’ve had in some time.

In my initial post-season analysis I didn’t have Stienberg in the mix, as I thought he would be coming in 2020. He’ll certainly add to what looks like a log-jam at forward. But if we get slammed by injuries again, at least we should have plenty of quality players to fill-in.

scoop85

scoop85
One chapter closes another begins.

Sorry to see the departure of a terrific senior class, and we’ll be especially hit on the back line. But we seem to have another nice group of recruits, and of course our goaltending corps will be back.

At this point I’m assuming Barron will be back. If so at forward we’ll have the following:

Barron-Locke-Donaldson
Mullin-Betts-Bauld
Motley-Murphy-Malott
Andreev-Bramwell-Regush

The forward recruits are Ben Berard, the Tukper twins, and Jack Malone. They’ve all put up good numbers in Juniors, but my guess is Berard and Malone are bigger offensive threats. This looks like the deepest and best forward corps we’ve had in some time.

In my initial post-season analysis I didn’t have Stienberg in the mix, as I thought he would be coming in 2020. He’ll certainly add to what looks like a log-jam at forward. But if we get slammed by injuries again, at least we should have plenty of quality players to fill-in.

Judging by Stienberg's draft position (63), he's ready for the NC$$. Here's an interesting take on him at the Av's fan site.

Swampy

scoop85

scoop85
One chapter closes another begins.

Sorry to see the departure of a terrific senior class, and we’ll be especially hit on the back line. But we seem to have another nice group of recruits, and of course our goaltending corps will be back.

At this point I’m assuming Barron will be back. If so at forward we’ll have the following:

Barron-Locke-Donaldson
Mullin-Betts-Bauld
Motley-Murphy-Malott
Andreev-Bramwell-Regush

The forward recruits are Ben Berard, the Tukper twins, and Jack Malone. They’ve all put up good numbers in Juniors, but my guess is Berard and Malone are bigger offensive threats. This looks like the deepest and best forward corps we’ve had in some time.

In my initial post-season analysis I didn’t have Stienberg in the mix, as I thought he would be coming in 2020. He’ll certainly add to what looks like a log-jam at forward. But if we get slammed by injuries again, at least we should have plenty of quality players to fill-in.

Judging by Stienberg's draft position (63), he's ready for the NC$$. Here's an interesting take on him at the Av's fan site.

I assume Stienberg will play more than he won’t but remember that Cairns was also drafted in the 3rd round and over his 1st two years he hasn’t been a regular on defense.

scoop85
I assume Stienberg will play more than he won’t but remember that Cairns was also drafted in the 3rd round and over his 1st two years he hasn’t been a regular on defense.

Our highest all-time draftee was Sasha Pokulok.

Sometimes it doesn't work out.

Trotsky

scoop85
I assume Stienberg will play more than he won’t but remember that Cairns was also drafted in the 3rd round and over his 1st two years he hasn’t been a regular on defense.

Our highest all-time draftee was Sasha Pokulok.

Sometimes it doesn't work out.

IIRC, Pokulok suffered from concussion problems that derailed his career.

[nypost.com]

redice
[nypost.com]

WHEW!

Jeff Hopkins '82

redice
[nypost.com]

WHEW!

Brett Cyrgalis at the New York Post
"Barron could join the Rangers after his season at Cornell ends in the spring — just as Chris Kreider did in leaving Boston College after a national championship ..."

If he does it just as Chris Kreider did, it sounds like a fair trade-off to me.

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

redice
[nypost.com]

WHEW!

Brett Cyrgalis at the New York Post
"Barron could join the Rangers after his season at Cornell ends in the spring — just as Chris Kreider did in leaving Boston College after a national championship ..."

If he does it just as Chris Kreider did, it sounds like a fair trade-off to me.

I’d drive him from Ithaca to MSG myself

Barron ranked as Rangers' 8th best prospect on Blueshirt Banner blog. Nice summary of his style of play.

The Sun's early look at the upcoming season.

I for one am impressed with the poise and security of a man who can go by "Ralphy."

Edit: It's "Raphy." The Sun regrets the error.

Schafer
"The Tupker brothers are tireless workers and great two-way players. They kill penalties and have played on the power play. They’re very, very tenacious as a set of forwards.”

Please be Abbotts, please be Abbotts, please be Abbotts. (Since neither plays D.)

Who could be their Hornby?

Scersk '97

Schafer
"The Tupker brothers are tireless workers and great two-way players. They kill penalties and have played on the power play. They’re very, very tenacious as a set of forwards.”

Please be Abbotts, please be Abbotts, please be Abbotts. (Since neither plays D.)

Who could be their Hornby?

That piece makes it sure sound like Stienburg.

I would think Mullin

Not much to see here but Barron gets a quick positive mention in the future of the Rangers.

[thehockeynews.com]

"There’s a boatload of intrigue up front in New York and while the most exciting players are on the wing, the most competitive position will be at center. I have Chytil as the future No. 1, but frankly Barron could be the guy, based on his early work at Cornell."

We have captains.

ACM
We have captains.

You have to wonder whether they made Barron a captain this year in anticipation that he may not be around next year.

Jeff Hopkins '82

ACM
We have captains.

You have to wonder whether they made Barron a captain this year in anticipation that he may not be around next year.

Maybe so, although we’ve had a number of junior captains in recent years too

ACM
We have captains.

And a new director of hockey operations as well.

ACM

ACM
We have captains.

And a new director of hockey operations as well.

Huh. That resume has "successor" written all over it. But where? Not D-1 anyway.

Love that he was a pp specialist. Moar, plz.

Trotsky

ACM

ACM
We have captains.

And a new director of hockey operations as well.

Huh. That resume has "successor" written all over it. But where? Not D-1 anyway.

Love that he was a pp specialist. Moar, plz.

WTF is a Director of Hockey Operations? Chief Scout?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

ACM

ACM
We have captains.

And a new director of hockey operations as well.

Huh. That resume has "successor" written all over it. But where? Not D-1 anyway.

Love that he was a pp specialist. Moar, plz.

WTF is a Director of Hockey Operations? Chief Scout?

Much more mundane. He deals with travel and game films.

ursusminor

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

ACM

ACM
We have captains.

And a new director of hockey operations as well.

Huh. That resume has "successor" written all over it. But where? Not D-1 anyway.

Love that he was a pp specialist. Moar, plz.

WTF is a Director of Hockey Operations? Chief Scout?

Much more mundane. He deals with travel and game films.

Ah...bus driver

[cornellbigred.com]

Media poll.

1) Cornell (13) 185 points
2) Clarkson, 163 points
3) Quinnipiac (1) 162 points
4) Harvard (1) 150 points
5) Dartmouth (1) 123 points
6) Yale 108 points
7) Brown 96 points
8) Union 86 points
9) Colgate 54 points
10) RPI 52 points
11) Princeton 50 points
12) St. Lawrence 19 points

Trotsky
Media poll.

1) Cornell (13) 185 points
2) Clarkson, 163 points
3) Quinnipiac (1) 162 points
4) Harvard (1) 150 points
5) Dartmouth (1) 123 points
6) Yale 108 points
7) Brown 96 points
8) Union 86 points
9) Colgate 54 points
10) RPI 52 points
11) Princeton 50 points
12) St. Lawrence 19 points

Whoever voted Dartmouth first should have their vote taken away.

Smallest number of votes in the media poll since I've been keeping track:

2002: 22
2003: 21
2004: 22
2005: 27
2006: 21
2007: 20
2008: 23
2009: 23
2010: 26
2011: 31
2012: 38
2013: 30
2014: 33
2015: 30
2016: 30
2017: 27
2018: 30
2019: 21
2020: 16

CU2007

Trotsky
Media poll.

1) Cornell (13) 185 points
2) Clarkson, 163 points
3) Quinnipiac (1) 162 points
4) Harvard (1) 150 points
5) Dartmouth (1) 123 points
6) Yale 108 points
7) Brown 96 points
8) Union 86 points
9) Colgate 54 points
10) RPI 52 points
11) Princeton 50 points
12) St. Lawrence 19 points

Whoever voted Dartmouth first should have their vote taken away.

They're probably in Hanover, so nobody reads what they say anyway.

Trotsky
Smallest number of votes in the media poll since I've been keeping track:

2002: 22
2003: 21
2004: 22
2005: 27
2006: 21
2007: 20
2008: 23
2009: 23
2010: 26
2011: 31
2012: 38
2013: 30
2014: 33
2015: 30
2016: 30
2017: 27
2018: 30
2019: 21 
2020: 16

A lot of these one horse towns no longer have legitimate sports sections. Troy and Schenectady, for example. Other reasons?

I assumed it was the birth and death of ezines.

Trotsky

Love that he was a pp specialist. Moar, plz.

Talarico ran the penalty-killing unit,

Is that the part of our special teams we needed to improve?

CU2007

Trotsky
Media poll.

1) Cornell (13) 185 points
2) Clarkson, 163 points
3) Quinnipiac (1) 162 points
4) Harvard (1) 150 points
5) Dartmouth (1) 123 points
6) Yale 108 points
7) Brown 96 points
8) Union 86 points
9) Colgate 54 points
10) RPI 52 points
11) Princeton 50 points
12) St. Lawrence 19 points

Whoever voted Dartmouth first should have their vote taken away.

I'm collecting all the pre-season polls and predictions. If anybody finds more please put the link in this thread. Thanks!

marty

Trotsky
Smallest number of votes in the media poll since I've been keeping track:

2002: 22
2003: 21
2004: 22
2005: 27
2006: 21
2007: 20
2008: 23
2009: 23
2010: 26
2011: 31
2012: 38
2013: 30
2014: 33
2015: 30
2016: 30
2017: 27
2018: 30
2019: 21 
2020: 16

A lot of these one horse towns no longer have legitimate sports sections. Troy and Schenectady, for example. Other reasons?

True. I would hope whoever writes for the Albany paper follows Union and RPI Hockey pretty closely in that the locals would care more about that than, say, the arena football league team, but I have no idea. Maybe Siena Basketball?

CU2007

marty

Trotsky
Smallest number of votes in the media poll since I've been keeping track:

2002: 22
2003: 21
2004: 22
2005: 27
2006: 21
2007: 20
2008: 23
2009: 23
2010: 26
2011: 31
2012: 38
2013: 30
2014: 33
2015: 30
2016: 30
2017: 27
2018: 30
2019: 21 
2020: 16

A lot of these one horse towns no longer have legitimate sports sections. Troy and Schenectady, for example. Other reasons?

True. I would hope whoever writes for the Albany paper follows Union and RPI Hockey pretty closely in that the locals would care more about that than, say, the arena football league team, but I have no idea. Maybe Siena Basketball?

With regard to the Albany TU sports section, I can attest it exists and occasionally has decent college hockey coverage. I'm on no way an expert regarding their staff as I prefer watching the games to reading about them.

USCHO ECAC preseason column.

CORNELL

HEAD COACH: Mike Schafer, entering his 25th season at Cornell.

2018-19 OVERALL RECORD: 21-11-4 (13-5-4 ECAC Hockey, tied for first)

KEY RETURNING PLAYERS: Junior goalie Matthew Galajda, (16-8-3, 1.85 GAA, .921 SV%) senior defenseman Yanni Kaldis (4-24-28), junior forward Morgan Barron (15-19-34), junior forward Cam Donaldson (12-13-25).

KEY LOSSES: Forward Mitch Vanderlaan, defenseman Matthew Nuttle, defenseman Alec McCrea.

KEY ADDITIONS: Forward Matt Stienburg (St. Andrew’s College), forward Jack Malone (Youngstown, USHL), forward Ben Berard (Powell River, BCHL).

2019-20 PREDICTIONS: The Big Red lost three defensemen off last year’s team. Replacing them appears to be their only question mark. Cornell has made three straight trips to the NCAA tournament while recording at least 21 wins each time. Expect more of the same this season.

Mark’s pick: 1st
Nate’s pick: 1st

Hard to believe Cam is only a junior. I hope he stays healthy this year. He seems to have sports car syndrome: high performance but often in the shop.

USCHO Prediction (I took the top guy):

1. Cornell
2. Quinnipiac
3. Clarkson
4. Dartmouth
5. Harvard
6. Yale
7. Brown
8. Union
9. Colgate
10. Princeton
11. RPI
12. SLU

Speaking of injuries, any word on how Malott is doing?

Trotsky
Hard to believe Cam is only a junior. I hope he stays healthy this year. He seems to have sports car syndrome: high performance but often in the shop.

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Hope he trades in his Fiat 124 for a Mazda MX-5 or Honda 2000.

Swampy

Trotsky
Hard to believe Cam is only a junior. I hope he stays healthy this year. He seems to have sports car syndrome: high performance but often in the shop.

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Hope he trades in his Fiat 124 for a Mazda MX-5 or Honda 2000.

I hope he doesn't make a trade for an M series at the end of the year.

marty

Swampy

Trotsky
Hard to believe Cam is only a junior. I hope he stays healthy this year. He seems to have sports car syndrome: high performance but often in the shop.

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Hope he trades in his Fiat 124 for a Mazda MX-5 or Honda 2000.

I hope he doesn't make a trade for an M series at the end of the year.

So say we all.

The athletic success of a college athlete is about as reliable indicator of his/her success in professional sports as the academic success of a college student is an indicator of his/her success in the world of business.

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Trotsky
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I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

ursusminor

Trotsky
Daily Sun Season Preview

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I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

I didn't include season injuries -- that's a good catch as long as those occurred prior to their first practice.

If they happened this season then I (as they) am shit outta luck.


That's the Donovan Ott who left Cornell, I assume?

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
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I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

I didn't include season injuries -- that's a good catch as long as those occurred prior to their first practice.

If they happened this season then I (as they) am shit outta luck.


That's the Donovan Ott who left Cornell, I assume?

Ott never made it to Ithaca.

scoop85

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
Daily Sun Season Preview

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TBRW Predictions

I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

I didn't include season injuries -- that's a good catch as long as those occurred prior to their first practice.

If they happened this season then I (as they) am shit outta luck.


That's the Donovan Ott who left Cornell, I assume?

Ott never made it to Ithaca.

Now he is at Utica College, so he still might get there.

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
Daily Sun Season Preview

Pre-season ECAC and NCAA Polls and Predictions

TBRW Predictions

I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

I didn't include season injuries -- that's a good catch as long as those occurred prior to their first practice.

If they happened this season then I (as they) am shit outta luck.


That's the Donovan Ott who left Cornell, I assume?

I was only referring to Union as having injuries over the summer. I already commented again about Ott. Hayhurst graduated in three years and is playing at Michigan as a grad student. Mat Harris also left RPI. I don't recall if he showed up anywhere else, but I am sure he won't make a difference.

Trotsky
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All three Sun writers like the new scoreboard.

David Harding

Trotsky
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All three Sun writers like the new scoreboard.

As do I. It's nice seeing replays and having a scoreboard that can handle multiple penalties as well as SOG as they occur. I don't see anything that takes away from the game or atmosphere.

ursusminor

scoop85

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
Daily Sun Season Preview

Pre-season ECAC and NCAA Polls and Predictions

TBRW Predictions

I noticed that TBRW predicted that Union would be 5th, I wondered if you included their players who are out for the season. So I looked. I know that Jack Adams is out, and there is at least one more. I don't remember who. Also RPI lost Jacob Hayhurst and some others who probably won't make a difference including Donovan Ott.

I didn't include season injuries -- that's a good catch as long as those occurred prior to their first practice.

If they happened this season then I (as they) am shit outta luck.


That's the Donovan Ott who left Cornell, I assume?

Ott never made it to Ithaca.

Now he is at Utica College, so he still might get there.

He went to a great high school, so he gets some cred there.

wonder what the board looks like in 2-3 more years with a dozen more holes in it..

Jim Hyla

As do I. It's nice seeing replays and having a scoreboard that can handle multiple penalties as well as SOG as they occur. I don't see anything that takes away from the game or atmosphere.

The old board handled multiple penalties, and I always wondered why they never kept a live count of SOG (only updating during intermissions), but it can't be lack of technology.

RichH

Jim Hyla

As do I. It's nice seeing replays and having a scoreboard that can handle multiple penalties as well as SOG as they occur. I don't see anything that takes away from the game or atmosphere.

The old board handled multiple penalties, and I always wondered why they never kept a live count of SOG (only updating during intermissions), but it can't be lack of technology.

The new scoreboard probably pulls in data from the software that the official scorer uses. Maybe the old one required manual updates?

the old one only got the data at the end of the period.

the board still does some dumb things. like SOG go away during penalties because they have 8 spots even when only 1 penalty is in use.

too bad they didnt put the board back about 10 ft and up a bit higher.. might have stopped the board from getting hit so soon.


then now have 20 seats they cant use anyway just left hanging there as dead space and the last section in each side can barely see the board.
it would be nice if they used the ribbon boards a bit more too.. one thing that might be nice is an update during the game on pt scorers for anyone coming in late or wondering if someone is on the verge of a hat trick etc some other pt streak people have an interest in. unless a score rpt is changed you never hear again those stats.

RichH

Jim Hyla

As do I. It's nice seeing replays and having a scoreboard that can handle multiple penalties as well as SOG as they occur. I don't see anything that takes away from the game or atmosphere.

The old board handled multiple penalties, and I always wondered why they never kept a live count of SOG (only updating during intermissions), but it can't be lack of technology.

The old board only handled 2 penalties for each team. Now that more than 2 can be seen, some fans will be able to better understand what happens when a team has more than 2.

upprdeck
too bad they didnt put the board back about 10 ft and up a bit higher.. might have stopped the board from getting hit so soon.


then now have 20 seats they cant use anyway just left hanging there as dead space and the last section in each side can barely see the board.

Agree, I wondered why they didn't put it where the seats behind the scoreboard now exist. I say exist because I agree those 20, or so, seats are useless.

upprdeck
wonder what the board looks like in 2-3 more years with a dozen more holes in it..

Blackburn, Lancashire.

Beeeej

upprdeck
wonder what the board looks like in 2-3 more years with a dozen more holes in it..

Blackburn, Lancashire.

Now we know how many holes it takes to fill Lynah Rink?

Beeeej

upprdeck
wonder what the board looks like in 2-3 more years with a dozen more holes in it..

Blackburn, Lancashire.

+1

Utica College recognizes RPI as a high school? [see 10th preceding post]. In addition to their hockey program Utica College must have a spectacular academic program. U.C. for me!!

osorojo
Utica College recognizes RPI as a high school? [see 10th preceding post]. In addition to their hockey program Utica College must have a spectacular academic program. U.C. for me!!

I'll take a Saranac.