Incoming Recruits

ugarte
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

Trotsky

ugarte
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

Gracie had George.

Trotsky

ugarte
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

Gracie had George.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

ugarte
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

Gracie had George.

Say goodnight, Trotsky.

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

ugarte
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

Gracie had George.

Say goodnight, Trotsky.

How many days did you say it is before the season starts?

Trotsky
Per Jason during tonight's broadcast, we missed out on this guy. Both parents are Cornell alums. That's just poor parenting.

scoop85

Trotsky
Per Jason during tonight's broadcast, we missed out on this guy. Both parents are Cornell alums. That's just poor parenting.

Well, Kent Manderville and Kim Ratushny’s kid is a freshman playing for Colgate, so that seems even more egregious.

Trotsky

scoop85

Trotsky
Per Jason during tonight's broadcast, we missed out on this guy. Both parents are Cornell alums. That's just poor parenting.

Well, Kent Manderville and Kim Ratushny’s kid is a freshman playing for Colgate, so that seems even more egregious.

I'm okay with that because he might not be good enough. Beniers OTOH is a projected early pick.

He's from Hingham so hopefully the parents just have Boston Disease. His other choice was BC.

scoop85
New forward recruit from the BCHL. McIntyre's scoring at about a point per game pace this season.

Trotsky
Gonna turn 19 in less than a month, if he needs another year to bulk up he would graduate as a 24 1/2-year old.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky
Gonna turn 19 in less than a month, if he needs another year to bulk up he would graduate as a 24 1/2-year old.

I didn't mean he should take a year off. I was just suggesting he's kind of "light" at 5'10" / 160.

Excited to announce my commitment to play D1 hockey at Cornell. Special thanks to my friends, family and teammates for everything. Can’t wait to get started #Bigred pic.twitter.com/vGny1D1eYf

— Joe Howe (@_JoeHowe34) November 12, 2019

scoop85
A little more info about Howe. He plays for the same team that produced Galajda. Despite the less than stellar stats, he seems like a solid prospect.

Trotsky

scoop85
A little more info about Howe. He plays for the same team that produced Galajda. Despite the less than stellar stats, he seems like a solid prospect.

Interesting to say the least. From the article there are extenuating circumstances for his crappy numbers.

I'm going to trust our staff in selecting goalies.

scoop85

Trotsky

scoop85
A little more info about Howe. He plays for the same team that produced Galajda. Despite the less than stellar stats, he seems like a solid prospect.

Interesting to say the least. From the article there are extenuating circumstances for his crappy numbers.

I'm going to trust our staff in selecting goalies.

Howe previously played for Upper Canada College (which I believe is actually a prep school), where Colin Greening came from. So some additional Cornell pedigree there.

Trotsky
Barrie sounds familiar. I'll do a query tonight; wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of our guys came from there.

marty
Author!

Most of the players are veterans of the Canadian Junior B league (only Goodkind and Straight are Americans)' where offensive checking is legal.

Trotsky
Carrying over from Tom's post on the Yale thread, I love seeing Malinski on the pp as a freshman. He looks absolutely comfortable out there -- part of the phenomenal freshman class. As a veteran observer of the program told me last weekend: "we replaced three solid senior defensemen with freshmen and I don't notice the difference."

SSS comments on the frosh:

Malone: perfectly cromulent with a flash now and then
Tupker 14: insufficient data for a meaningful answer
Tupker 21: already battling Motley for the 19th skater role
Stienburg: very sharp and skilled, could be a star
Berard: I didn't notice him much but hey no big mistakes

Muzyka: insufficient data for a meaningful answer
Dirven: invisible; that's a good thing for a freshman D
Mitchell: Always seems to be in the right place
Malinski: back-to-back ECAC ROTW!

ugarte
Dirven likes to muck along the wall so I like Dirven.

Trotsky

ugarte
Dirven likes to muck along the wall so I like Dirven.

It was disorienting to see us flying and Yale trying to goon it up and slow us down.

ugarte

Trotsky

ugarte
Dirven likes to muck along the wall so I like Dirven.

It was disorienting to see us flying and Yale trying to goon it up and slow us down.

I don't even mean it in a Bobby Shore old-time-hockey way, I just mean when I see him, it's mostly because he's working for possession.

Trotsky

marty
Author!

Most of the players are veterans of the Canadian Junior B league (only Goodkind and Straight are Americans)' where offensive checking is legal.

Huh? When did offensive checking become legal in the NC$$? Or was this just a Frosh team rule?

Trotsky
So you could tie up the stick but not F=ma a guy? Like women's hockey now?

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky
So you could tie up the stick but not F=ma a guy? Like women's hockey now?

Yes. You could draw a penalty for "checking in the offensive zone."

marty

Trotsky
Barrie sounds familiar. I'll do a query tonight; wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of our guys came from there.

I think Mike Quinn and Gary Meager may have been from Barrie. Neither played a great number of varsity games. The bar was high to advance from the freshman team in the spring of 1971 to THE team in the fall.

I imagine NCAA recruiters had to BS all the prospective freshman that they would make it.

Author!

Trotsky
I have neither Quinn or Meager in my records. Was Gary any relation to the amazing BU Meager brothers (Terry and Rick)? They were from Belleville.

Trotsky
Was Gary any relation to the amazing BU Meager brothers (Terry and Rick)? They were from Belleville.

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky
Was Gary any relation to the amazing BU Meager brothers (Terry and Rick)? They were from Belleville.

Meagher

Trotsky

Al DeFlorio

Trotsky
Was Gary any relation to the amazing BU Meager brothers (Terry and Rick)? They were from Belleville.

Meagher

Oh.

As you were.

Darren Naylor, Vice President and Head Coach of the Clippers
Jack is a throwback type defenceman whose first objective is to take care of his own end. He is extremely calm and rarely makes a poor decision. Jack is a natural leader and mature beyond his years. This is a first of what will be many accolades for Jack moving forward including a future high NHL draft pick.

ROOKIE 2003 DEFENCEMAN JACK O’BRIEN COMMITS TO CORNELL UNIVERSITY
As a 16 year old, O’Brien is the youngest Clipper this season yet he has been a mainstay on a Clippers’ defence core that currently has allowed the 2nd fewest goals against in the BCHL. He has taken on a defensive role and has shown incredible poise and maturity that one would expect from a 19-20 year-old veteran defenceman.

scoop85
I believe it's Jack Lagerstrom who's been injured, not Suda

scoop85
New recruit with the cool name of Sullivan Mack, a smallish (5’11” 180 lb) but speedy forward who’s scoring at an almost 2 ppg clip at Kimball Union Academy. I can’t seem to post Neutral Zone’s tweet about the commitment, but NZ says Mack has moved from 3.25 stars to a “high” 3.75 star rating, and that he’s a “High compete player w/a high ceiling.”

Mack is already 19, so I would imagine he’ll be coming to Ithaca next season.

scoop85
Mack is already 19, so I would imagine he’ll be coming to Ithaca next season.

Trotsky

scoop85
Mack is already 19, so I would imagine he’ll be coming to Ithaca next season.

We then would have 4 F / 2 D slated to replace 3 F / 1 D (Bauld, Malott, I don't wanna think about it, and Kaldis):

F Cobb (3/02)
D Lagerstrom (3/00)
F Mack (7/00)
F O'Leary (3/00)
F Penney (10/00)
D Rayhill (3/01)

Unless we're really going to 18 F (+6) and 10 D (+4) that suggests to me that Lagerstrom is still hurt and/or Cobb will get a year of seasoning in the USHL.

Trotsky
By my stats we have never had an Alaskan-born player. Sullivan Mack is from Anchorage.

ursusminor

Trotsky
By my stats we have never had an Alaskan-born player. Sullivan Mack is from Anchorage.

Do you know how many states and Canadian provinces have produced Cornell players over the years? I know that we once went through this exercise for RPI, but I don't recall how many states there were. We have had players from all of the Canadian provinces, unless you count Yukon, NWT, and Nunavut, or regard Labrador being separate from Newfoundland.

Proud to announce my commitment to play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. Thank you to everyone who has helped me get to this point! #BigRed pic.twitter.com/Wmh0psPUc0

— Tim Rego (@Tim_Rego98) January 29, 2020

ursusminor

Proud to announce my commitment to play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. Thank you to everyone who has helped me get to this point! #BigRed pic.twitter.com/Wmh0psPUc0

— Tim Rego (@Tim_Rego98) January 29, 2020

redice

Several sites listed him as a Holy Cross commit last spring/summer.... I guess he changed his mind... Our gain; HC's loss!

ugarte

redice

Several sites listed him as a Holy Cross commit last spring/summer.... I guess he changed his mind... Our gain; HC's loss!

Rego was a point-per-game defenseman on the top team in the AJHL's West Division after playing prep school hockey in Massachusetts. I wonder if this season drew extra recruiting attention...

ursusminor

Trotsky
By my stats we have never had an Alaskan-born player. Sullivan Mack is from Anchorage.

Do you know how many states and Canadian provinces have produced Cornell players over the years? I know that we once went through this exercise for RPI, but I don't recall how many states there were. We have had players from all of the Canadian provinces, unless you count Yukon, NWT, and Nunavut, or regard Labrador being separate from Newfoundland.

ursusminor
Interesting list, Trotsky. Who was from the Northwest Territories?

Not that it is important, but didn't Quebec change to QC?

abmarks

ursusminor
Interesting list, Trotsky. Who was from the Northwest Territories?

Not that it is important, but didn't Quebec change to QC?

Joe Dragon.

ursusminor

Not that it is important, but didn't Quebec change to QC?

Trotsky
I keep PQ because I like it. Likewise, NDak will always be the Sioux and Colgate will always be the Red Raiders.

Anybody who doesn't like it is welcome to build their own site.

Weder
I'm surprised we've never had a player from Vermont

scoop85
New recruit with the cool name of Sullivan Mack, a smallish (5’11” 180 lb) but speedy forward who’s scoring at an almost 2 ppg clip at Kimball Union Academy. I can’t seem to post Neutral Zone’s tweet about the commitment, but NZ says Mack has moved from 3.25 stars to a “high” 3.75 star rating, and that he’s a “High compete player w/a high ceiling.”

Mack is already 19, so I would imagine he’ll be coming to Ithaca next season.

Mack's commitment to the Big Red ends one of the most hotly contested recruiting battles of the prep season. The Anchorage, Alaska, native was being procured by several top programs, including Denver and Michigan. There was known Ivy interest with Cornell and Harvard.

gored
I remember him!
Looks like he is doing well.
[osucascades.edu]

Robb

gored
I remember him!
Looks like he is doing well.
[osucascades.edu]

Me, too - he and/or (been too long!) his sister was on my floor freshman year. Really nice guy, and I still admire his dedication to stay with the team knowing he’d likely never play.

Robb

gored
I remember him!
Looks like he is doing well.
[osucascades.edu]

Me, too - he and/or (been too long!) his sister was on my floor freshman year. Really nice guy, and I still admire his dedication to stay with the team knowing he’d likely never play.

ugarte
20 years later and it looks like getting Kanji ice time on senior night is an improvement to the policy

ugarte

redice

Several sites listed him as a Holy Cross commit last spring/summer.... I guess he changed his mind... Our gain; HC's loss!

Rego was a point-per-game defenseman on the top team in the AJHL's West Division after playing prep school hockey in Massachusetts. I wonder if this season drew extra recruiting attention...

THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE
OF THE ALBERTA JUNIOR HOCKEY LEAGUE

Tim Rego Commits to Cornell University
January 29th, 2020 @ 12:00 am
BROOKS, AB (January 29, 2020) - The Brooks Bandits of the Alberta Junior Hockey League (AJHL) are thrilled to announce that 2000-born defenceman Tim Rego has committed to Cornell University.

The Mansfield, Massachusetts native leads all Bandit defenceman in points with 52 (19 goals, 33 assists) in 46 games played. At 6'0” 180lb the blue liner is 2nd in the AJHL defenceman scoring race and leads all defenders with 19 goals.

Located in Ithaca, New York, the Cornell Big Red compete in the ECAC, under head coach Mike Schafer. Rego is the second Bandit in franchise history to commit to Cornell joining current Big Red captain, Jeff Malott.

Prior to joining the Bandits, Rego skated with Williston Northampton School where he was team captain and led all defensemen in scoring with 24 points (13 goals, 11 assists) in 27 games.

Extremely honoured and excited to announce my commitment to play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. I’d like to thank my family, friends, teammates, and coaches for helping me get to this point. #bigred @CUBigRedHockey pic.twitter.com/H7221htTVh

— Kyler (@KylerKovich) February 21, 2020

ursusminor

Extremely honoured and excited to announce my commitment to play Division 1 hockey at Cornell University. I’d like to thank my family, friends, teammates, and coaches for helping me get to this point. #bigred @CUBigRedHockey pic.twitter.com/H7221htTVh

— Kyler (@KylerKovich) February 21, 2020

LW Kyler Kovich
Nanaimo, BCHL | 6’0, 180 | 1/31/02 | NCAA: Undecided

Kovich easily was one of the more impressive forwards throughout the game. He was physical with an in-your-face style, but he also looked very smooth with the puck in transition while showing off soft hands. Kovich spent most of the match on Team West’s top line with Danny Weight and Carter Savoie, but Kovich was far from a passenger. He’s a very good skater who made well-timed reads that helped him get an extra step or two on puck-gazing opponents. Although he played alongside several dependable puck handlers, Kovich confidently carried the puck through the zone and made smart plays near the line. His vision, timing of pass delivery, and pass accuracy were impressive as well.

BMac
Don’t leave us hanging! Who was it? Chabot?

pfibiger
From this review of the CJHL Top Prospects Game:
[www.thedraftanalyst.com]

LW Kyler Kovich
Nanaimo, BCHL | 6’0, 180 | 1/31/02 | NCAA: Undecided

Kovich easily was one of the more impressive forwards throughout the game. He was physical with an in-your-face style, but he also looked very smooth with the puck in transition while showing off soft hands. Kovich spent most of the match on Team West’s top line with Danny Weight and Carter Savoie, but Kovich was far from a passenger. He’s a very good skater who made well-timed reads that helped him get an extra step or two on puck-gazing opponents. Although he played alongside several dependable puck handlers, Kovich confidently carried the puck through the zone and made smart plays near the line. His vision, timing of pass delivery, and pass accuracy were impressive as well.

BearLover
The last 4-5 recruits have looked pretty solid. Likely a product of our success the last four seasons.

BearLover
The last 4-5 recruits have looked pretty solid. Likely a product of our success the last four seasons.

Trotsky

BearLover
The last 4-5 recruits have looked pretty solid. Likely a product of our success the last four seasons.

It's hard to tell. I guess maybe if they went in the juniors draft we could measure it by their draft position, but we really do not know until they go in the NHL draft or they get here and we can actually see them.

I've never really known how to quantify commitments. There are systems similar to the 5 star football ratings but in hockey those seem to be in their infancy.

1. In the college game higher draft picks may be a liability because of the importance of upperclass players. Higher draft picks may be less used to being role players, which is what most underclass players are. And they are more likely to go pro earlier, depriving the team of senior and junior skills and leadership. Exhibit A: The two Boston Commonwealth Avenue teams in the first half of this season.
2. Unlike basketball, where 1-2 superior talents often carry entire teams, hockey, with its frequent line changes, requires more balanced depth and the ability to play a certain style of play (aka "the system" ) so that as a season progresses (with injuries, illnesses, game situations, and such) players can be interchangeable. Therefore, players drafted in the fourth round or later may be more valuable to a team than higher picks. Exhibit B: Harvard during the Ryan Donato years.
3. As an Ivy League school, Cornell has to recruit student athletes who really are students. This implies players who have athletic potential and are likely to mature into superior talents may be better recruits than the first-rounders who can't get in, or can't stay in, or can't handle the workload -- both academic and athletic. Exhibit C: Matt Stienburg is an example of such a high-potential player.

Swampy

Trotsky

BearLover
The last 4-5 recruits have looked pretty solid. Likely a product of our success the last four seasons.

It's hard to tell. I guess maybe if they went in the juniors draft we could measure it by their draft position, but we really do not know until they go in the NHL draft or they get here and we can actually see them.

I've never really known how to quantify commitments. There are systems similar to the 5 star football ratings but in hockey those seem to be in their infancy.

In any case, three observations:

1. In the college game higher draft picks may be a liability because of the importance of upperclass players. Higher draft picks may be less used to being role players, which is what most underclass players are. And they are more likely to go pro earlier, depriving the team of senior and junior skills and leadership. Exhibit A: The two Boston Commonwealth Avenue teams in the first half of this season.
2. Unlike basketball, where 1-2 superior talents often carry entire teams, hockey, with its frequent line changes, requires more balanced depth and the ability to play a certain style of play (aka "the system" ) so that as a season progresses (with injuries, illnesses, game situations, and such) players can be interchangeable. Therefore, players drafted in the fourth round or later may be more valuable to a team than higher picks. Exhibit B: Harvard during the Ryan Donato years.
3. As an Ivy League school, Cornell has to recruit student athletes who really are students. This implies players who have athletic potential and are likely to mature into superior talents may be better recruits than the first-rounders who can't get in, or can't stay in, or can't handle the workload -- both academic and athletic. Exhibit C: Matt Stienburg is an example of such a high-potential player.

nshapiro

Swampy

Trotsky

BearLover
The last 4-5 recruits have looked pretty solid. Likely a product of our success the last four seasons.

It's hard to tell. I guess maybe if they went in the juniors draft we could measure it by their draft position, but we really do not know until they go in the NHL draft or they get here and we can actually see them.

I've never really known how to quantify commitments. There are systems similar to the 5 star football ratings but in hockey those seem to be in their infancy.

In any case, three observations:

1. In the college game higher draft picks may be a liability because of the importance of upperclass players. Higher draft picks may be less used to being role players, which is what most underclass players are. And they are more likely to go pro earlier, depriving the team of senior and junior skills and leadership. Exhibit A: The two Boston Commonwealth Avenue teams in the first half of this season.
2. Unlike basketball, where 1-2 superior talents often carry entire teams, hockey, with its frequent line changes, requires more balanced depth and the ability to play a certain style of play (aka "the system" ) so that as a season progresses (with injuries, illnesses, game situations, and such) players can be interchangeable. Therefore, players drafted in the fourth round or later may be more valuable to a team than higher picks. Exhibit B: Harvard during the Ryan Donato years.
3. As an Ivy League school, Cornell has to recruit student athletes who really are students. This implies players who have athletic potential and are likely to mature into superior talents may be better recruits than the first-rounders who can't get in, or can't stay in, or can't handle the workload -- both academic and athletic. Exhibit C: Matt Stienburg is an example of such a high-potential player.

I was operating under the assumption that Donato was a great recruiter and a crappy coach

nshapiro
I was operating under the assumption that Donato was a great recruiter and a crappy coach

Swampy
Quint Kessenich has 4 Ivies in the top ten this week. We're #7, behind Yale (#1) & Princeton (#5), and ahead of Penn (#9).

Whew! A league that has 4/7 in the top ten ain't chopped liver. Quint noticed how much better we are this year on faceoffs. But our work is cut out for us in our league.

scoop85
Sullivan Mack named Prep Player of the Year by Neutral Zone

Nice to see that not only can he score, but he plays a 200 foot game. Should fit right in!

scoop85
Sullivan Mack named Prep Player of the Year by Neutral Zone

Trotsky

scoop85
Sullivan Mack named Prep Player of the Year by Neutral Zone

Oh sweet Jesus, there's another Fusco coming to Bright.

Congratulations to goaltender Ian Shane on his commitment to play for @CUBigRedHockey !@Ian1shane pic.twitter.com/KTSkE6l2vb

— x-Chicago Steel (@ChicagoSteel) March 20, 2020