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Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2018 12:18PM

So that we can follow our recruits better, I suggest we make this thread a sticky, and update this first post whenever a new commit is announced. I derive my list of players from this site--please let me know if there is a better one.

Coming in 2020-21:
Forwards:
Jack O'Leary
Kyle Penney

Defensemen:
James Rayhill
Jack Lagerstrom

Coming in 2021-22:
Forwards:
Aidan Cobb
Dan McIntyre

Defensemen:
Donald Kempf
Michael Suda

Goaltenders:
Joe Howe
Edited 9 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2019 07:52PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Chris '03 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: November 25, 2018 01:11PM

Heisenberg has been compiling for years: [docs.google.com]

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2018 02:04PM

Chris '03
Heisenberg has been compiling for years: [docs.google.com]
Thanks, that's probably a more reliable list of recruits, as it includes a commit not listed on the college hockey inc list. The point of this thread is to link to their stats, though. My understanding is that no page on the internet does this. Big Red Puckhead doesn't update in real time I believe.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2018 02:05PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: November 25, 2018 11:37PM

I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/25/2018 11:40PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: December 11, 2018 04:13PM

 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: December 11, 2018 07:47PM

Sam Malinski on Elite Prospects.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: December 16, 2018 09:37AM

Jack Malone (who according to Big Red Puckhead will be coming to Ithaca in 2020 not 2019 as listed in the first post of this thread) had the lone assist on the USA’s game winning goal in OT as the USA beat Canada West 3-2 last night to advance to the final of the World Junior A challenge against Russia this afternoon. Malone knocked down a Canada West pass in his defensive zone, and quickly sent a pass to a teammate who scored on the breakaway for the winner.

From my somewhat limited viewing, Malone plays a strong game all over the ice. He’s got nice size, he skates well, and is defensively responsible (which will please you know who). I don’t think he’s scored a goal in the tournament, but has played more of a 3rd line role and isn’t on the power play. But he does a nice job in the corners, is a heady passer, and has a good shot.

Today’s final will be streamed today live at 6 p.m. ET at this link. Russia beat the USA 4-3 in OT in their preliminary game.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: dbilmes (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: December 25, 2018 12:01PM

The local newspaper had an article on Gunnery School hockey team, including this section on a Cornell recruit: (Badger is the coach)
Junior captain Jimmy Rayhill, who has already committed to Cornell University for the fall of 2020, anchors the defense. “Jimmy is a great skater and is a difference-maker because of his I.Q. and vision, which is off the charts,” said Badger. “He sees things very few do.”
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 05, 2019 11:56AM

Fresh off gold at the World Junior A challenge, Jack Malone had a hat trick and an assist in Youngstown's win last night
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 12, 2019 02:38PM

Nice goal here by Jack Malone in USHL action last night
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 14, 2019 04:01PM

BearLover

Coming in 2021-22:
Forwards:
Defensemen:
Donald Kempf

Class of '25? We've signed a bar mitzvah boy.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: January 16, 2019 03:06PM

Trotsky
I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.

He goes by "Hank"
[chicagomission.com]
and Hank Kempf is a cousin of Stephen Bâby (one generation removed).

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: January 16, 2019 10:30PM

jkahn
Trotsky
I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.

He goes by "Hank"
[chicagomission.com]
and Hank Kempf is a cousin of Stephen Bâby (one generation removed).

Great name. Begs for the nickname: Mein Kempf.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 16, 2019 10:41PM

Swampy
jkahn
Trotsky
I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.

He goes by "Hank"
[chicagomission.com]
and Hank Kempf is a cousin of Stephen Bâby (one generation removed).

Begs for the nickname: Mein Kempf.
No it doesn't.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 16, 2019 10:52PM

BearLover
Swampy
jkahn
Trotsky
I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.

He goes by "Hank"
[chicagomission.com]
and Hank Kempf is a cousin of Stephen Bâby (one generation removed).

Begs for the nickname: Mein Kempf.
No it doesn't.
You're right but what if he was going to Clarkson.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: January 17, 2019 06:19AM

ugarte
BearLover
Swampy
jkahn
Trotsky
I like Bear's list. Thanks for doing it! I was not aware of the College Hockey Inc page before and relied on Heisenberg to produce this.

We all missed Kempf, so I'm glad Bear took the time to do this. Note that Kempf is our first recruit born after 9/11.

He goes by "Hank"
[chicagomission.com]
and Hank Kempf is a cousin of Stephen Bâby (one generation removed).

Begs for the nickname: Mein Kempf.
No it doesn't.
You're right but what if he was going to Clarkson.

Loser might apply.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 07, 2019 05:40PM

New defensive recruit, Michael Suda, Jr. From the Buffalo area, plays at the Nichols School. He’s 16, so not sure when he’s due in Ithaca.

 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 08, 2019 08:31AM

He is class of 2020 born in july 2002 so that would make in 18 if he comes in 2020. 5'11" 170 right now.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2019 08:32AM by upprdeck.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 08, 2019 08:34AM

He'll probably do a year in juniors, so my guess is fall 2021
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 08, 2019 09:52AM

Moar centers, plz.

(Not really. With Malone and Stienburg we'll have 5 this Fall.)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/08/2019 09:54AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 15, 2019 12:55PM

 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 02:25PM

ursusminor

OK, that's just too young.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 02:40PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
ursusminor

OK, that's just too young.
Apparently she turned 14 twelve days ago, so we were recruiting her at 13. Yikes. That's 7th grade.

I think the men's team had a similar early commit with Joey Kubachka, who committed when he was around 14. He is now playing for West Chester University of Pennsylvania in the ACHA.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.greenmountainaccess.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 02:43PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
ursusminor

OK, that's just too young.
Apparently she turned 14 twelve days ago, so we were recruiting her at 13. Yikes. That's 7th grade.

I think the men's team had a similar early commit with Joey Kubachka, who committed when he was around 14. He is now playing for West Chester University of Pennsylvania in the ACHA.

Which shows how imperfect early recruiting is. In fairness the girls tend to mature earlier, so perhaps a top-flight girl hockey player is a bit more of a “can’t miss” at that age.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 02:47PM

can they even have recruiting contact at that age?
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Weder (---.mycingular.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 03:15PM

upprdeck
can they even have recruiting contact at that age?

I think as long as the recruit is making the initial contact? The whole NCAA recruiting thing is a ridiculous sham.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 16, 2019 06:19PM

Weder
upprdeck
can they even have recruiting contact at that age?

The whole NCAA recruiting thing is a ridiculous sham.

+100
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 05:00AM

Since I posted this information for the 2018 recruits over the summer, here are the ratings for Cornell's 2019 and 2020 recruits from Neutral Zone. They reevaluate a few every once in a while.

2019
Berard 3.75
Dirven 4.00
Kabachka 3.50
Lagarstrom 3.75
Malinski 3.75
Malone 4.00
Mitchell 3.75
Muzyka 3.75
Nelson 3.50
O’Leary 4.00
Stienburg 3.75
B Tupker 3.50
Z Tupker 3.50

2020
Kempf 3.75
Penney 3.75
Rayhill 3.75
Suda 4.00

What the numbers mean [www.neutralzone.net] (I think that is a public document.)
I have been assuming that the ratings, but not the evaluations, are public since they usually include it on their tweets, Also I have not gotten any complaints when I post this for RPI's recruits. From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits.

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2019 06:04AM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 08:21AM

ursusminor
If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.

Thanks, Ralph! It is of great interest.

Truly great would be seeing the ratings from our past classes, to give us context. You know, in your copious free time. :-)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 08:22AM

Man, it seems like O'Leary has been a recruit for a decade. There must have been another one we lost.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.biz.spectrum.com)
Date: February 19, 2019 08:35AM

Yes, Michael O'Leary who's at Notre Dame
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 09:31AM

Trotsky
ursusminor
If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.

Thanks, Ralph! It is of great interest.

Truly great would be seeing the ratings from our past classes, to give us context. You know, in your copious free time. :-)

Well, I am retired as you know, and it is a good break from writing a speech in German on the reaction in Germany to the Chernobyl disaster.

OK, the women,
2019
Breza 4.25
Daniel 4.25
Isaac 4.25
Kenyon 3.50
Zingas 4.00
Zweber 3.00

2020
Boucher 4.00
Chokelel 3.50
Delianedis 4.25
Messier 4.00
Rud 4.00
Ruggiero 3.75
Yu 3.75

2021
Dulac 3.25
Guilday 3.75
Huo 3.50
MacSween 3.75
Mende 4.00

2022
Adam 3.75
Chan 4.00
Geer 3.50
Regalado 3.25

If there is someone missing on either this or the men's list, they may have been evaluated and just not been linked to Cornell. If you give me their first and last name, I will check. OTOH, from my own experience, they sometimes find out about recruits committing before other sources. I can, of course, supply the given name if you want to Google anyone.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2019 09:51AM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 09:40AM

Past classes.

They only go back to 2016. I am sure that this doesn't agree with your freshmen through junior classes.

2018
Andreyev 4.00
Brakel 3.75
Bramwell 3.50
Leahy 4.00
McDonald 3.50
Motley 3.75
Regush 4.00
Song 3.25

2017
Barron 3.75
Betts 3.75
Cairns 3.75
Donaldson 3.75
Galajda 3.75
Green 4.00
Haiskanen 3.75
Locke 3.75
McGrath 3.25
Mullin 4.00

2016
Bauld 3.50
Hoffman 4.00
Kaldis 4.50
Malott 4.00
Murphy 3.50
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2019 11:25AM

ursusminor
Past classes.

They only go back to 2016. I am sure that this doesn't agree with your freshmen through junior classes.

2018
Andreyev 4.00
Brakel 3.75
Bramwell 3.50
Leahy 4.00
McDonald 3.50
Motley 3.75
Regush 4.00
Song 3.25

2017
Barron 3.75
Betts 3.75
Cairns 3.75
Donaldson 3.75
Galajda 3.75
Green 4.00
Haiskanen 3.75
Locke 3.75
McGrath 3.25
Mullin 4.00

2016
Bauld 3.50
Hoffman 4.00
Kaldis 4.50
Malott 4.00
Murphy 3.50

The ratings seem a bit off the mark for Barron, Donaldson and Galajda. Interesting that Kaldis had a significantly higher rating than anyone else during the cycle.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-174-203-13.myvzw.com)
Date: February 19, 2019 03:55PM

ursusminor
Since I posted this information for the 2018 recruits over the summer, here are the ratings for Cornell's 2019 and 2020 recruits from Neutral Zone. They reevaluate a few every once in a while.

2019
Berard 3.75
Dirven 4.00
Kabachka 3.50
Lagarstrom 3.75
Malinski 3.75
Malone 4.00
Mitchell 3.75
Muzyka 3.75
Nelson 3.50
O’Leary 4.00
Stienburg 3.75
B Tupker 3.50
Z Tupker 3.50

2020
Kempf 3.75
Penney 3.75
Rayhill 3.75
Suda 4.00

What the numbers mean [www.neutralzone.net] (I think that is a public document.)
I have been assuming that the ratings, but not the evaluations, are public since they usually include it on their tweets, Also I have not gotten any complaints when I post this for RPI's recruits. From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits.

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.
Thank you for posting. Who are "Kabachka" and "Nelson"? Looks like some of the other names are spelled wrong. Makes me wonder about these ratings...
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 04:25PM

BearLover
ursusminor
Since I posted this information for the 2018 recruits over the summer, here are the ratings for Cornell's 2019 and 2020 recruits from Neutral Zone. They reevaluate a few every once in a while.

2019
Berard 3.75
Dirven 4.00
Kabachka 3.50
Lagarstrom 3.75
Malinski 3.75
Malone 4.00
Mitchell 3.75
Muzyka 3.75
Nelson 3.50
O’Leary 4.00
Stienburg 3.75
B Tupker 3.50
Z Tupker 3.50

2020
Kempf 3.75
Penney 3.75
Rayhill 3.75
Suda 4.00

What the numbers mean [www.neutralzone.net] (I think that is a public document.)
I have been assuming that the ratings, but not the evaluations, are public since they usually include it on their tweets, Also I have not gotten any complaints when I post this for RPI's recruits. From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits.

If it is of interest, I will also post the same information for Cornell's women recruits. They range from 3.00 to 4.25. RPI's women recruits also cover a wider range than the men.
Thank you for posting. Who are "Kabachka" and "Nelson"? Looks like some of the other names are spelled wrong. Makes me wonder about these ratings...

Should be Joey Kubachka, my misspelling. He plays now for an ACHA school. Nelson is Joshua Nelson who plays for the London Knights. I assume that they were once Cornell recruits, but I certainly don't know. As I wrote "From past experience, they may have some recruits in the wrong year and some may no longer be Cornell recruits." They make a lot of errors. I noticed that they conflated reports for 5'6" Clarkson forward recruit Alexis Giguere with a 6'2" defenseman of the same name. I wrote a couple of times about similar errors for RPI recruits, but I don't follow other schools close enough for anything else.

The ratings are not perfect as was pointed out in the previous post. I find them and the evaluations, which I won't post, interesting, but certainly not the end-all. They gave a 3.75 to the RPI women's 3rd string goalie who has not played at all in two years. I don't expect to see her next season either when she will be the only returnee.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2019 04:29PM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: pfibiger (---.res.spectrum.com)
Date: February 19, 2019 06:40PM

I don’t remember him but elite prospects reports the Nelson ex-commitment as well:


[www.eliteprospects.com]

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2019 08:43PM

ursusminor
The ratings are not perfect as was pointed out in the previous post. I find them and the evaluations, which I won't post, interesting, but certainly not the end-all.
We understand the spirit in which they are intended, and I greatly appreciate you copying them out for us. I found them fascinating.

Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2019 07:07AM

The only other name which I think that I copied incorrectly is Lagerstrom. The spelling of Stienburg agrees with USHL page, as opposed to the first post on this page.

The ratings appear to be correct on each of the three lists which I posted.

I didn’t post the list of current women’s players. They only go back to 2017.

2018
Burke 4.25
Frechette 4.00
McKenzie 4.00
Pietrowski 4.00
Song 4.00

2017
Browning 3.75
Facchinato 4.00
Frechette 4.00
Mills 4.00
Nealey 4.00
Phelps 4.00
Slobodzian 4.00

BTW, they don’t yet have Ella Huntley who committed a few days ago as a Cornell recruit. Believe it or not, she is only rated at 3.00. I assume that will improve before she shows up in Ithaca. I can’t believe that any school would recruit a player who isn’t considerably above average that far in advance. Interestingly, the RPI men received a verbal this week for a player born in 2003 who was rated at 3.00. It is now at 3.25.

The list of NZ’s scouts are here for the men and here for the women.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2019 07:26AM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2019 09:40AM

In addition to Huntley, the following Cornell women's recruits are mentioned here but not linked to Cornell by NZ:

Van Gelder 3.75
Thibodeau, in data base, but not rated
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 20, 2019 10:05AM

Trotsky
Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2019 12:52PM

Swampy
Trotsky
Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2019 09:45PM

ursusminor
Swampy
Trotsky
Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.
There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2019 11:29PM

jkahn
ursusminor
Swampy
Trotsky
Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.
There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

I wonder if he’s in hockey shape? :-P
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2019 10:23AM

scoop85
jkahn
ursusminor
Swampy
Trotsky
Corey Hoffman played 2 games his freshman year and disappeared. His 4.00 suggests we missed out for whatever reason. I see no listing of him on any current roster at any level.

Do you suppose this is where he wound up?

Anything is possible, but I wouldn't expect someone from Long Island to end up coaching kids in Edmonton. Could he still be at Cornell but not playing hockey? He still has a twitter account with Cornell on it. I assume that, unlike RPI, there is no online student directory.
There is a directory and per the directory he's still a Cornell student.

I wonder if he’s in hockey shape? :-P

I think at this point the issue is if he's in shape that makes him as effective as some of the players who either are playing injured or otherwise are the least effective on the team.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2019 11:59AM

Does the school need to get the league to "clear" a student to play, or could we literally just have some student lace them up (with whatever consequences later on if he was deemed ineligible)? Would the ref allow a team to skate a player not listed on the roster? i.e., does "roster" have consequential meaning within the rules of the league?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2019 12:00PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-203-18.myvzw.com)
Date: February 21, 2019 12:51PM

Trotsky
Does the school need to get the league to "clear" a student to play, or could we literally just have some student lace them up (with whatever consequences later on if he was deemed ineligible)? Would the ref allow a team to skate a player not listed on the roster? i.e., does "roster" have consequential meaning within the rules of the league?

I would have to imagine a student would have to be on the official NCAA roster to be eligible for a game. Think of the legal implications of a random student was hurt or killed on the ice during an NCAA game. That said, I think it’s up to the school to ensure a player meets the NCAA’s requirements for eligibility. That’s why you sometimes hear much later on of NCAA sanctions for an ineligible player. I assume if the NCAA cleared a player as eligible they couldn’t later turn around and impose sanctions (unless someone provided false info?)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2019 05:31PM

CU2007
I assume if the NCAA cleared a player as eligible they couldn’t later turn around and impose sanctions (unless someone provided false info?)
Maine on line one. They say they'll hold.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2019 02:50PM

Several years ago, someone commented here that he did not feel it was right for a junior aged player to be traded from one team to another.

Yesterday two future RPI players in the USHL were involved in trades. One of the other players involved in one of those trades, Jaden Shields, will be playing for his fourth USHL team this season (Chicago, Omaha, Sioux Falls, and now Lincoln). The USHL does require a player 18 or under to approve of a trade, but this just seems wrong to me.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2019 07:25AM by ursusminor.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 26, 2019 05:41PM

ursusminor
Several years ago, someone commented here that he did feel it was right for a junior aged player to be traded from one team to another.

Yesterday two future RPI players in the USHL were involved in trades. One of the other players involved in one of those trades, Jaden Shields, will be playing for his fourth USHL team this season (Chicago, Omaha, Sioux Falls, and now Lincoln). The USHL does require a player 18 or under to approve of a trade, but this just seems wrong to me.

Wrong yes, but it's just a business and like most now a days, the employees don't matter as much as the bottom line.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 26, 2019 05:50PM

Jim Hyla
Wrong yes, but it's just a business and like most now a days, the employees don't matter as much as the bottom line.

Sad, but true....
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 07:29AM

Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Several years ago, someone commented here that he did feel it was right for a junior aged player to be traded from one team to another.

Yesterday two future RPI players in the USHL were involved in trades. One of the other players involved in one of those trades, Jaden Shields, will be playing for his fourth USHL team this season (Chicago, Omaha, Sioux Falls, and now Lincoln). The USHL does require a player 18 or under to approve of a trade, but this just seems wrong to me.

Wrong yes, but it's just a business and like most now a days, the employees don't matter as much as the bottom line.

True, but I wonder how many junior teams actually make money.

BTW, I edited my previous post because I left out the important word "not" in the first sentence. doh
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 27, 2019 07:33AM

ursusminor
Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Several years ago, someone commented here that he did feel it was right for a junior aged player to be traded from one team to another.

Yesterday two future RPI players in the USHL were involved in trades. One of the other players involved in one of those trades, Jaden Shields, will be playing for his fourth USHL team this season (Chicago, Omaha, Sioux Falls, and now Lincoln). The USHL does require a player 18 or under to approve of a trade, but this just seems wrong to me.

Wrong yes, but it's just a business and like most now a days, the employees don't matter as much as the bottom line.

True, but I wonder how many junior teams actually make money.

BTW, I edited my previous post because I left out the important word "not" in the first sentence. doh

So you're taking your guidance from the president?:-D

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2019 09:28AM

Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Several years ago, someone commented here that he did feel it was right for a junior aged player to be traded from one team to another.

Yesterday two future RPI players in the USHL were involved in trades. One of the other players involved in one of those trades, Jaden Shields, will be playing for his fourth USHL team this season (Chicago, Omaha, Sioux Falls, and now Lincoln). The USHL does require a player 18 or under to approve of a trade, but this just seems wrong to me.

Wrong yes, but it's just a business and like most now a days, the employees don't matter as much as the bottom line.

True, but I wonder how many junior teams actually make money.

BTW, I edited my previous post because I left out the important word "not" in the first sentence. doh

So you're taking your guidance from the president?:-D

I avoid Shirley Jackson as much as possible. :-)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 02, 2019 09:42AM

Ben Berard, who just returned after missing 4 months due to an injury, scored for Powell River in their playoff game last night. Berard has a great shot and should step right into the lineup next year as a productive forward.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 05:38PM

Apparently Berard suffered a potential career-ending back injury in December. Glad he’s back on the ice, and hopefully the injury won’t recur.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 08:56PM

scoop85
Apparently Berard suffered a potential career-ending back injury in December.(October) Glad he’s back on the ice, and hopefully the injury won’t recur.

 
___________________________
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 03, 2019 10:01PM

Jim Hyla
scoop85
Apparently Berard suffered a potential career-ending back injury in December.(October) Glad he’s back on the ice, and hopefully the injury won’t recur.

Yeah, I read it as October but for some reason typed December. He missed virtually the entire regular season.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 06:05PM

Any of them also play box lacrosse? Faceoff experience?
 
Why does youth hockey in Illinois cost so much? Two lawsuits suggest an answer
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 04, 2019 10:33PM

Posting here for lack of a better place since these clubs are a route to the college level. The Chicago Tribune reports on two lawsuits in Illinois alleging that Amateur Hockey Association of Illinois (AHAI), the local affiliate of USA Hockey, is refusing to grant membership to new Tier 1 and Tier 2 clubs so that they can artificially keep keep charges to players higher than necessary. Each of the current clubs in with AHAI is said to have at least one employee being paid over $100,000.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: April 18, 2019 07:11PM



 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: April 18, 2019 09:04PM

ursusminor



2023-2024? Good lord. thud
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 20, 2019 03:57AM

As if on cue, NC$$ moves to reform college hockey recruiting and stop bullshit like this with the men. Hopefully we'll see something similar on the women's side (why would there be a difference?).


Rule changes approved by the NCAA’s Division I Council today will significantly alter the recruiting timeline for Division I men’s hockey prospects with the goal of slowing down and improving the recruiting experience.

The changes restructure the timing of permissible recruiting activities, creating two starting points for various recruiting activities. The most impactful changes are:

Eliminating all recruiting conversations (whether initiated by the coach or the prospect) prior to Jan. 1 of a prospect’s sophomore (grade 10) year.
Establishing Aug. 1 prior to a prospect’s junior (grade 11) year as the first date when NCAA coaches can make a verbal offer.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/2019 03:58AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: abmarks (64.9.251.---)
Date: April 21, 2019 10:16AM

Trotsky
As if on cue, NC$$ moves to reform college hockey recruiting and stop bullshit like this with the men. Hopefully we'll see something similar on the women's side (why would there be a difference?).

Trotsky- you didn't read enough of that article ;) which implies no changes being looked at for the women


The rule changes for men’s hockey recruiting vary slightly from another set of changes approved for most other NCAA sports, including women’s hockey.

...

The men’s hockey rules changes are distinct from other sports to help account for other opportunities in hockey that prospective student-athletes may be presented with at a young age.

Sounds like something about Juniors is the issue for the men, while that isn't an issue for the women.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 29, 2019 11:58AM

Updated the list to account for Cobb's recent commitment and EliteProspects correcting the spelling of Stienburg's name. All good things must come to an end, and soon the coaching staff will have to start lining up replacements for the excellent Class of 2021 (Barron, Galajda, Donaldson, Mullin, Locke, Green, Betts, Haiskanen, Cairns, McGrath).
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: marty (207.189.22.---)
Date: June 29, 2019 02:53PM

BearLover
Updated the list to account for Cobb's recent commitment and EliteProspects correcting the spelling of Stienburg's name. All good things must come to an end, and soon the coaching staff will have to start lining up replacements for the excellent Class of 2021 (Barron, Galajda, Donaldson, Mullin, Locke, Green, Betts, Haiskanen, Cairns, McGrath).

Yes, it's June 29th. The summer's almost history.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 30, 2019 12:55PM

marty
BearLover
Updated the list to account for Cobb's recent commitment and EliteProspects correcting the spelling of Stienburg's name. All good things must come to an end, and soon the coaching staff will have to start lining up replacements for the excellent Class of 2021 (Barron, Galajda, Donaldson, Mullin, Locke, Green, Betts, Haiskanen, Cairns, McGrath).

Yes, it's June 29th. The summer's almost history.
Recruiting happens years before the players matriculate, and much of it during the offseason.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: July 09, 2019 11:19AM

Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: RichH (38.99.108.---)
Date: July 09, 2019 11:29AM


Per Brandon Thomas, there will be a Cornell player wearing #13 for the first time since before we had a national title.

 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: July 09, 2019 02:03PM

RichH

Per Brandon Thomas, there will be a Cornell player wearing #13 for the first time since before we had a national title.


Used to be that only Russians would wear #13. Now it seems everyone does.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: July 09, 2019 05:42PM


Certainly a balanced class, with lots of guys who look like they can contribute right away. Given what we have coming back, competition for playing time will be fierce (as it should be).
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: KenP (137.75.68.---)
Date: July 10, 2019 07:30AM

Interesting that Ben Tupker is listed as 6'3" while his twin brother Zach is only 6'1"
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 10, 2019 08:30AM

RichH

Per Brandon Thomas, there will be a Cornell player wearing #13 for the first time since before we had a national title.

My favorite number so he's already my favorite player! :)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 10, 2019 08:33AM

Is 29 our largest roster?

Did the '67 roster even have 20? (Edit: 20 played in at least 1 game.)
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2019 08:37AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Tom Lento (163.114.130.---)
Date: July 10, 2019 01:19PM

BearLover
marty
BearLover
Updated the list to account for Cobb's recent commitment and EliteProspects correcting the spelling of Stienburg's name. All good things must come to an end, and soon the coaching staff will have to start lining up replacements for the excellent Class of 2021 (Barron, Galajda, Donaldson, Mullin, Locke, Green, Betts, Haiskanen, Cairns, McGrath).

Yes, it's June 29th. The summer's almost history.
Recruiting happens years before the players matriculate, and much of it during the offseason.

Yeah, and honestly if they're starting now it's probably too late.

Happily, I feel like this year's freshman class (minus the goaltending) is a big part of that plan. It's a big group with lots of quality junior leagues represented, and the one guy who didn't play much in juniors was a 3rd round draft pick out of what appears to be a strong prep school league. There were only 3 freshmen who saw regular ice time last year, so 2021-22 could get ugly if a lot of the newcomers don't pan out.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 10, 2019 04:03PM

Tom Lento
There were only 3 freshmen who saw regular ice time last year, so 2021-22 could get ugly if a lot of the newcomers don't pan out.

That's a little misleading. Of the 7 players after Brakel left, 1 was the obvious "goalie who raises the median GPA" so that leaves us with 6. Of those 6 we had Regush as a star, Leahy and Motley as solid contributors, and Andreev as one of the best couple D on the team until his injury. That's 4 who should be regulars this year. Then there's Song who was injured all year. He may have been Charles Wang's pity draft pick or he may be something; we'll find out. Bramwell wasn't ready yet but there have been plenty of guys who didn't do much as frosh but later came into their own (Nuttle, Rauter, Weidner).

This incoming class looks very solid, with most of the guys looking like they fit the profile of guys like Malott, Green, or Barron. They have size and Mike seems to continue to be serious about bringing in goals and skating chops. I see this group as deep and able to withstand the injuries that seem to be increasing around the league. We pretty much know that at least one important F and one D will be out at any given time and this gives us cover.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2019 04:05PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: July 10, 2019 04:15PM

As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: July 10, 2019 04:21PM

scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.

Meanwhile, just today I was thinking about this one who got away. Those are some gaudy numbers.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 10, 2019 07:02PM

Their loss. Fuck em.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 07:14AM

Trotsky

1 was the obvious "goalie who raises the median GPA'...

I heard a couple weeks ago there's quite a few of those on the lacrosse team, too (not all goalies obviously).
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Rita (---.ftmy.qwest.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 09:46AM

KenP
Interesting that Ben Tupker is listed as 6'3" while his twin brother Zach is only 6'1"

Are they Fraternal twins (vs. identical twins)? [www.healthychildren.org]
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 10:36AM

ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.

I wouldn't say he counts. Judging by the eLF thread he was a commit for 11 days. That's only 16 credit hours of A's at Harvard.

I'm trying to recall our freshman who elected to go back to the juniors after just a few weeks here because he was emotionally overwhelmed. I think he was Quebecois. That wasn't Limoges was it? (Edit: no, he was from... fucking Winchester? VA rednecks and antique furniture stores Winchester? Jesus...)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/11/2019 10:38AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.IPYX-102276-ZYO.zip.zayo.com)
Date: July 11, 2019 11:06AM

Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: underskill (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 11:49AM

wasn't it Hudon or something like that? (Red Wings pick I think)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-174-202-22.myvzw.com)
Date: July 11, 2019 01:55PM

Philippe Hudon. Bad OCD
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Tom Lento (163.114.130.---)
Date: July 11, 2019 02:48PM

Trotsky
Tom Lento
There were only 3 freshmen who saw regular ice time last year, so 2021-22 could get ugly if a lot of the newcomers don't pan out.

That's a little misleading. Of the 7 players after Brakel left, 1 was the obvious "goalie who raises the median GPA" so that leaves us with 6. Of those 6 we had Regush as a star, Leahy and Motley as solid contributors, and Andreev as one of the best couple D on the team until his injury. That's 4 who should be regulars this year. Then there's Song who was injured all year. He may have been Charles Wang's pity draft pick or he may be something; we'll find out. Bramwell wasn't ready yet but there have been plenty of guys who didn't do much as frosh but later came into their own (Nuttle, Rauter, Weidner).

This incoming class looks very solid, with most of the guys looking like they fit the profile of guys like Malott, Green, or Barron. They have size and Mike seems to continue to be serious about bringing in goals and skating chops. I see this group as deep and able to withstand the injuries that seem to be increasing around the league. We pretty much know that at least one important F and one D will be out at any given time and this gives us cover.

Oh, weird, I totally missed Motley when looking at the roster. Should've been 4 in my original post, which is a little better. If Song or Bramwell turn out to be strong contributors later in their careers there's more of a margin for error with the incoming class and better guarantees of depth in future years, but that's kind of my point - this incoming class is pretty important.

About the incoming group, I agree they look solid. Most of the USHL/BCHL recruits seem strong by the numbers, the one prep school player was a 3rd round pick, and the 3 from the second-tier junior leagues put up the kind of scoring stats you want to see from a college prospect in those leagues. You never know how things will go but there's good cause for optimism.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: July 11, 2019 03:50PM

ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

Yeah, I was surprised he missed that too. If it’s a sign of aging that’s a problem for me, since Greg and I are the same age.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 04:11PM

scoop85
ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

Yeah, I was surprised he missed that too. If it’s a sign of aging that’s a problem for me, since Greg and I are the same age.
And still missing it. So apparently we can pinpoint the exact moment I lost it.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: July 11, 2019 04:28PM

Trotsky
scoop85
ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

Yeah, I was surprised he missed that too. If it’s a sign of aging that’s a problem for me, since Greg and I are the same age.
And still missing it. So apparently we can pinpoint the exact moment I lost it.

You appear to have missed the sarcasm in Charles’ comment.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 04:29PM

scoop85
Trotsky
scoop85
ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

Yeah, I was surprised he missed that too. If it’s a sign of aging that’s a problem for me, since Greg and I are the same age.
And still missing it. So apparently we can pinpoint the exact moment I lost it.

You appear to have missed the sarcasm in Charles’ comment.

And who the fuck is CHARLES?!

(OK, OK, I get it. My only defense is I expect better from a pro.)
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: July 11, 2019 05:38PM

Trotsky
scoop85
Trotsky
scoop85
ugarte
Trotsky
ugarte
scoop85
As nice as it is to discuss who’s arriving on campus, do folks remember this one who got away?
Wow. He never got a degree at all. Crazy decision in this economy.
Career NHLer. Not really thinking that's a problem.
Greg. This is the oldest you have ever been.

Yeah, I was surprised he missed that too. If it’s a sign of aging that’s a problem for me, since Greg and I are the same age.
And still missing it. So apparently we can pinpoint the exact moment I lost it.

You appear to have missed the sarcasm in Charles’ comment.

And who the fuck is CHARLES?!

(OK, OK, I get it. My only defense is I expect better from a pro.)
The amount of time it took you to pick up on it is the proof that it was good, not that it was bad.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: KenP (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 11, 2019 06:17PM

Rita
KenP
Interesting that Ben Tupker is listed as 6'3" while his twin brother Zach is only 6'1"

Are they Fraternal twins (vs. identical twins)? [www.healthychildren.org]
Yes, identical twins according to the press release.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 10:26AM

ugarte
The amount of time it took you to pick up on it is the proof that it was good, not that it was bad.

No.

Bear with me here.

It did occur to me that my sarcasm meter was broken (though only after you pointed out my dotage).

At that point I saw that it was you and not one of our other posters. I thought, "OK... but that's a joke I could make. He thinks of jokes I can't. I've seen him do it. There has to be something else." So I looked for something better, didn't find it, and thought, "in fact it's so good I still don't see it," thus complimenting you further by assuming I was missing it (note: this is something I do not do with other people).

So the price of you being complimented twice here at the highest level is this one joke doesn't get high marks. It wasn't dumb or bad, but it was something I'd have expected from somebody more plodding, like, say, me. It was a first rate second rate joke, as are all of mine. I expect second rate first rate jokes from you and first rate first rate jokes from people like Carlin and Pryor.

This has been another episode of Belaboring the Obvious.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Swampy (---.cl.ri.cox.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 12:43PM

Trotsky
Is 29 our largest roster?

Did the '67 roster even have 20? (Edit: 20 played in at least 1 game.)

At the alumni dinner in New Haven last season, Schafer was asked what he could do about all the injuries. His answer was something like, "Bring in a big recruiting class for next fall." After the 2018-2019 season, this seems to be his new religion.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 01:39PM

Swampy
Trotsky
Is 29 our largest roster?

Did the '67 roster even have 20? (Edit: 20 played in at least 1 game.)

At the alumni dinner in New Haven last season, Schafer was asked what he could do about all the injuries. His answer was something like, "Bring in a big recruiting class for next fall." After the 2018-2019 season, this seems to be his new religion.
The extra skater helps. I wonder if we'll ever reach a situation where we use all 19 skaters regularly, whether we'll have a PK specialist, a guy we use late in games if we want to shift uptempo (or down), maybe even a FOGO.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2019 01:41PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 02:22PM

Trotsky
Swampy
Trotsky
Is 29 our largest roster?

Did the '67 roster even have 20? (Edit: 20 played in at least 1 game.)

At the alumni dinner in New Haven last season, Schafer was asked what he could do about all the injuries. His answer was something like, "Bring in a big recruiting class for next fall." After the 2018-2019 season, this seems to be his new religion.
The extra skater helps. I wonder if we'll ever reach a situation where we use all 19 skaters regularly, whether we'll have a PK specialist, a guy we use late in games if we want to shift uptempo (or down), maybe even a FOGO.

Praying to every deity out there that hockey never goes the FOGO route.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 03:44PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Praying to every deity out there that hockey never goes the FOGO route.
I was pretty much joking. Possession off the face off means 50x more in lax than in hockey.
 
Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: ugarte (---.177.169.163.ipyx-102276-zyo.zip.zayo.com)
Date: July 12, 2019 05:45PM

Trotsky
ugarte
The amount of time it took you to pick up on it is the proof that it was good, not that it was bad.

No.

Bear with me here.

It did occur to me that my sarcasm meter was broken (though only after you pointed out my dotage).

At that point I saw that it was you and not one of our other posters. I thought, "OK... but that's a joke I could make. He thinks of jokes I can't. I've seen him do it. There has to be something else." So I looked for something better, didn't find it, and thought, "in fact it's so good I still don't see it," thus complimenting you further by assuming I was missing it (note: this is something I do not do with other people).

So the price of you being complimented twice here at the highest level is this one joke doesn't get high marks. It wasn't dumb or bad, but it was something I'd have expected from somebody more plodding, like, say, me. It was a first rate second rate joke, as are all of mine. I expect second rate first rate jokes from you and first rate first rate jokes from people like Carlin and Pryor.

This has been another episode of Belaboring the Obvious.
The joke itself was a throwaway but you're discounting the knock-on effects of everything you've posted since.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 07:11PM

I noticed that Connor Murphy is not listed on the 2019-20 roster.

 
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Re: Incoming Recruits
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.132.76.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: July 12, 2019 08:01PM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
Praying to every deity out there that hockey never goes the FOGO route.
I was pretty much joking. Possession off the face off means 50x more in lax than in hockey.

So was I. Shoulda used a smiley.
 
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