Cornell at Union, 2/24/18

Do you start Stewart tonight? Might be good to get him some in-game practice before the playoffs in case he has to take over for Galajda at some point. It's also his final regular season game. The game also has no bearing on our standing in the league and probably marginal standing in the pairwise.

KGR11
Do you start Stewart tonight? Might be good to get him some in-game practice before the playoffs in case he has to take over for Galajda at some point. It's also his final regular season game. The game also has no bearing on our standing in the league and probably marginal standing in the pairwise.

Assuming either a Denver win over St. Cloud State or a Denver/SCSU tie, and the other two teams in the top five (Notre Dame, Minnesota State) win, a Cornell loss to Union drops us to #5. Even a SCSU win over Denver and the other two teams winning means a Cornell loss to Union drops us to #4.

EDIT: That said, a Denver win and Notre Dame/Minnesota State wins still drops us to #4 even if we beat Union.

Stewart's statistically at least just as good as Matt.

I wouldn't mind giving him one more start, not to mention one fewer look by Union at Galajda in case we meet again.

I'd give Stewart the start. He isn't clearly worse, and may actually be better but with poorly timed injuries. The PWR risk for tonight is no different in the ECAC tournament, tbh, and any drop tonight can be corrected by storming through LP.

I can't believe how little he's played this year and kind of wish he'd gotten the call on Senior Night. My heart grew three sizes typing this.

you assume that because he is dressing that he is ready to go..

Tonight's video stream is pay-only. I don't suppose anybody here has a helpful friend who subscribes to [unionathletics.tv] ...?

upprdeck
you assume that because he is dressing that he is ready to go..

Well, kinda. If he isn't ready he shouldn't be dressed.

ugarte
I'd give Stewart the start. He isn't clearly worse, and may actually be better but with poorly timed injuries. The PWR risk for tonight is no different in the ECAC tournament, tbh, and any drop tonight can be corrected by storming through LP.

I can't believe how little he's played this year and kind of wish he'd gotten the call on Senior Night. My heart grew three sizes typing this.

Our goal light only lights on one side, ya see.

Trotsky

upprdeck
you assume that because he is dressing that he is ready to go..

Well, kinda. If he isn't ready he shouldn't be dressed.

Colton Point was not only dressed but played last night in the tie vs. Union. He had missed the last four games.

Senior Chase Perry has not dressed for RPI in weeks and I haven't found any reference to this - though I haven't scoured USCHO and other Engineer hangouts. Ursus?

Trotsky

upprdeck
you assume that because he is dressing that he is ready to go..

Well, kinda. If he isn't ready he shouldn't be dressed.

even if he isn't ready, at least put on pants. this isn't burning man.

Trotsky
Our goal light only lights on one side, ya see.

Gee that's strange... I noticed a similar quirk at RPI last night. Whenever we scored the goal light seemed to be on a seven-second delay.

Beeeej
Tonight's video stream is pay-only. I don't suppose anybody here has a helpful friend who subscribes to [unionathletics.tv] ...?

Geez - I knew the attorney job market was bad. But THAT bad???

dressing and be game ready are different things.. we have to have someone to go in and try to win. not saying we wont see him tonight.. but

TimV

Beeeej
Tonight's video stream is pay-only. I don't suppose anybody here has a helpful friend who subscribes to [unionathletics.tv] ...?

Geez - I knew the attorney job market was bad. But THAT bad???

Lawyers love a good "discount" just as much as anyone else. We have no real problem spending $8.95 on a single game with as-yet-unknown quality of picture, camera work, and commentary, it's just not our favorite thing about tonight's game.

I paid to watch the women play at Union. The feed was okay; certainly no worse than ILN.

dag14
I paid to watch the women play at Union. The feed was okay; certainly no worse than ILN.

The comments about the camera work on the USCHO thread were not good. So your "discount" is probably the way to go.

Beeeej
Tonight's video stream is pay-only. I don't suppose anybody here has a helpful friend who subscribes to [unionathletics.tv] ...?

I don't suppose anyone who is watching would record the game for me, would they?

Even if I were to buy the game, I couldn't watch the archive. You have to buy the $80 All-Access t watch an archive.

F sentiment. We need to ride the horse that got us here. It's unlucky for Stewart, but the team has to be more important than one guy.

Upsetting the team rhythm and chemistry they have developed with Galadja in net would be foolish. And since he's a frosh, I want him getting all the game reps he can possibly get.

There was a long discussion in another thread about how on paper, next year would be the year. However, as someone pointed out, who knows what could happen next year. We unexpectedly find ourselves in serious ncaa contention *this year*. We need to absolutely crush this chance.

Pretty sure Stewart (and everyone on this board) could care less about him never playing for the red ever again...if we get to the frozen four title game.

Stewart in net.

Malott and Cairns return to the Cornell lineup; Donaldson and Smith will sit this one out. Hayden Stewart makes his first start since Jan. 5. pic.twitter.com/B9e6HfNHvu

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) February 24, 2018

redliner
Stewart in net.

Good. I want to know that we can rely on him in case Something Bad happens in the playoffs. Yes, PWR is important, but this is the lowest-stakes game the rest of the way.

I'm assuming Donaldson and Smith are sitting because of their recent injuries

scoop85
I'm assuming Donaldson and Smith are sitting because of their recent injuries

I thought so but Mike said Smith got "a little dinged up last night."

But I think this is taking no chances. Nor does he need to: Cairns is cromulent and Malott gets free after feeling shame.

abmarks
There was a long discussion in another thread about how on paper, next year would be the year. However, as someone pointed out, who knows what could happen next year. We unexpectedly find ourselves in serious ncaa contention *this year*. We need to absolutely crush this chance.

THIS. SO THIS. SO THIS.

There are so few real chances. This is one of them. And I am still, as far as I know, mortal. Make it count, lads. Yale showed us that if you can doggedly hang around and hang around and be there, shit can happen.

80% of success is just showing up.

How was that hit that took green out not a penalty?

He was looking down, but he had the puck and it was a hip check. Looked ok to me, but I’m no expert.

Anyone besides us getting audio that's both delayed by several seconds, and spotty, going in and out every few seconds?

My feed [which I did have to pay for] is fine.

Is Alex Green back in the game?

Yes; he missed a couple of shifts but is back.

looked to me like a complete knee takeout.. he flipped over the guy

I hope Cornell doesn't commit another penalty because Union power play seems unstoppable.

RichH

redliner
Stewart in net.

Good. I want to know that we can rely on him in case Something Bad happens in the playoffs. Yes, PWR is important, but this is the lowest-stakes game the rest of the way.

Wouldn't last night have been the better low-stakes opportunity?

Yep, it's one of those games. Union is 3/3 on the power play. Only way to stop them is not to commit any penalties.

abmarks

RichH

redliner
Stewart in net.

Good. I want to know that we can rely on him in case Something Bad happens in the playoffs. Yes, PWR is important, but this is the lowest-stakes game the rest of the way.

Wouldn't last night have been the better low-stakes opportunity?

1) A loss to Union would have a lesser impact to our RPI/PWR than a loss to RPI would. 2) Now that #1 and #2 spots are locked up, there is absolutely no risk to our ECAC playoff ranking anymore. 3) That's in the past now. My comment is about today's decision.

I don't get you guys. galadja wins games. you need to put the best possible team on the ice every night to win. there are no throwaway games when you are playing for the national championship. we have the number 1 goaltender in the country and we played our backup who hasn't seen ice time for 2 months and gave up 4 goals so far tonight

I thinks it's time to pull Stewart.

I hope this loss doesn't haunt us come ncaa tournament time. Our penalty kill completely fell apart.

Miraculously, we are still #3 in PWR, but by one ten-thousandth of a point. #4 Minnesota State is still playing, but down to Bemidji State 0-1 in the second.

RichH

abmarks

RichH

redliner
Stewart in net.

Good. I want to know that we can rely on him in case Something Bad happens in the playoffs. Yes, PWR is important, but this is the lowest-stakes game the rest of the way.

Wouldn't last night have been the better low-stakes opportunity?

1) A loss to Union would have a lesser impact to our RPI/PWR than a loss to RPI would.

Huh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

A-19
I don't get you guys. galadja wins games. you need to put the best possible team on the ice every night to win. there are no throwaway games when you are playing for the national championship. we have the number 1 goaltender in the country and we played our backup who hasn't seen ice time for 2 months and gave up 4 goals so far tonight

So this!

Noone has mentioned the mental/emotional side. This is not exactly a confidence builder to take a loss tonight.

strange game.. had the better of play down the stretch but we lost so many stick battles early we were chasing most of the night.

still giving up 3PP goals when it wasnt like union really did much with it.. that last goal was just an awful play coming out of our own zone.

Stewart didnt play badly the one rebound it might not even have gotten to him.

Still we need our goal scorers to get shots off and not be silent the whole night.

a game without our goalie, our best P- D our captain and one of our quickest forwards we still scored 3.

lets hope that 2 weeks off we come out to play

abmarks

Huh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

OK, you're right on that point. Thanks for refreshing me, albeit in a combative manner; I wasn't putting much thought into it.

I'm still glad Stewart has some recent game experience heading to the post-season. You never know when we'll need him.

Personally, I think giving Galajda a day off is worth it. Rest is good.

That being said, I could be wrong.

They have two weeks coming up - How much rest does he need ?

Personally, I don't get those comments against Stew. I agree that he probably didn't play his best tonight, but Union's put some real effort into this game. And remember, last time they were @ Lynah they put in 3 goals. I think tonight's game will only help with the rest of our games, and Galajda, too.

Cop at Lynah
They have two weeks coming up - How much rest does he need ?

Nice to not give Union a shot at him tonight. The less they see of him the better if we meet again.

marty

Cop at Lynah
They have two weeks coming up - How much rest does he need ?

Nice to not give Union a shot at him tonight. The less they see of him the better if we meet again.

Interesting point.

RichH

abmarks

Huh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

OK, you're right on that point. Thanks for refreshing me, albeit in a combative manner; I wasn't putting much thought into it.

I'm still glad Stewart has some recent game experience heading to the post-season. You never know when we'll need him.

Sorry, i'm cranky lately whenever i see incorrect facts (goddamn trump's fault).

Schafer knows who's hurting and should sit. He knows best who needs ice time and who doesn't. I trust his judgement more than anyone else's.

abmarks

RichH

abmarks

Huh? What are you smoking?

rpi = win % + opponents win% + opp opponents win%. Unadulterated RPI treats all wins the same- so beating RPI & losing to Union gives us the same RPI as a combo of losing to RPI and beating Union.

Union is hovering between 17 and 22 in RPI right now. If they finish in the top 20 of RPI, beating union gets us a quality win bonus. Beating RPI would not,

The only other factor in PWR that these games effect is common opponent comparisons and the results this weekend don't effect any of our comparisons in terms of common opponent win %.

OK, you're right on that point. Thanks for refreshing me, albeit in a combative manner; I wasn't putting much thought into it.

I'm still glad Stewart has some recent game experience heading to the post-season. You never know when we'll need him.

Sorry, i'm cranky lately whenever i see incorrect facts

FYP

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2018 01:43AM by toddlose.

So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

Dear President Ainlay,

This past weekend I attended the Cornell University at Union College hockey game.

Although the hockey game was very exciting, and unfortunately my team lost, I was very upset by the way that our pep band was treated. Our pep band regularly travels to away men’s hockey games. Unfortunately I feel that the pep band was mistreated in a way that I have never seen from any other school.

The following discussion was obtained by talking to various members of the band and the band director. Because I was not privy to the exact conversation, it is possible that there are some inaccuracies, although I think the general tenor of the conversation is correct.

Upon setting up and getting ready to play before the game, the band director was approached by someone from the rink staff and given specific guidelines about when they could play. They were told that they could not play as the team was coming onto the ice before each period. Also they could not play our alma mater, which is traditionally done during the second intermission. Initially they were told that the only time they could play was after we scored a goal. Our band director said he eventually negotiated that they could play 3 times during each period.

I know there were other discussions that I’m not aware of, but I think the restrictions that were put on our band were excessive and unlike any that I have seen at other rinks. Maybe there was a good reason for these, although I certainly can’t imagine what it would be.

I hope you would agree that college bands add a lot to the enjoyment of these amateur events. Having watched Cornell hockey games for over 50 years, including having been to every ECAC rink, as well as many from other conferences, I have never experienced anything even remotely similar to what happened this past Saturday night. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, this has never happened at Union College before.

Maybe it is within Union’s right to impose these restrictions, but it certainly takes away from the enjoyment and atmosphere of a college hockey game. Because I do not know what rules the ECAC has for these matters, I’m sending a copy of this to Mr. Stephen Hagwell, as well as our band director and our athletic director.

I’m sure that you have more important matters to attend to, but I felt that sending this email to you would be the most efficient way of getting it to whoever is responsible.

Also, because I’m sure that you get a great many emails, I’m also sending you a mailed copy of this letter.

I appreciate your reading this and I would be happy to discuss this with you. In that regard I have included my cell phone number.

Yours truly,

James Hyla

Cornell University ‘67

+100

Very good letter.

I remember Q being pretty bad as well. We started chanting "Let them [Q band] play!" whenever they played canned music.

Does Union have a band these days? Did they have any restrictions

Jim Hyla
So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

Dear President Ainlay,

Union College has a new President, effective July 1:

[www.timesunion.com]

Union is mostly annoying because it's ChildWorld. Everything is 'splosions and let's get ready to rummmmble and the general AHL atmosphere of a kindergarten.

Cornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

Umm, 1967?

osorojo
Cornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

[www.tbrw.info]

French Rage
Umm, 1967?

Fake news!!

osorojo
Cornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

I think I’m going hire a calligrapher to pen this and frame it.

This may be this forum’s “WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?! BROM? DARMOTH” masterpiece.

I mean, we’re so used to correcting scoreboards & national media for giving Him TOO many National Titles that this caught me off guard.

Edit: (With all due respect, of course. Maybe I’m being a a harsh jackass again. But I live for college hockey internet, I’m sorry.)

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

Trotsky

osorojo
Cornell once had a goalie who won a Stanley Cup before he won a regular season game, won the Conn Smythe Trophy the year before he won the Calder Memorial Cup, was a goaltender in the NHL for 8 years and won 6 Stanley Cups. He has an excellent claim to being the best ice hockey goalie. Ever. Cornell did not win a national championship during his years playing for Cornell. Let's get real and ditch blaming or crediting a single team member for success or failure. Think Trump.

[www.tbrw.info]

Dryden won six regular-season games before the 1971 Stanley Cup playoffs.

Trotsky

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

I believe I also neglected poor YAEL.

Regardless, this is illustrative of the higher level of discourse here.

RichH
“WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?! BROM? DARMOTH”

Amazing, where is this from?

BearLover

RichH
“WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?! BROM? DARMOTH”

Amazing, where is this from?

2003-era USCHO message board, courtesy of some WCHA mouth-breather. It probably made the Hall-of-Fame of USCHO threads.

RichH

BearLover

RichH
“WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?! BROM? DARMOTH”

Amazing, where is this from?

2003-era USCHO message board, courtesy of some WCHA mouth-breather. It probably made the Hall-of-Fame of USCHO threads.

Haha. That really is phenomenal

Does anyone know the band director and who would be the best person in the AD's office, to cc my letter? I thought that they used to have assistants ADs responsible for each sport, but I don't see that now.

According to the band website, the current Pep Band Manager is Zachary Brothers '20. Not sure who the athletics advisor is at this point.

Good points. Union's going to think this is rich kids whining, though. (OK, you're not a kid any longer.) How about reaching out to the Union band, such as it is.

Trotsky

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

I want to hear what #29 Union has to say.

Chris '03
According to the band website, the current Pep Band Manager is Zachary Brothers '20. Not sure who the athletics advisor is at this point.

That's ridiculous, no way someone in college can be class of '20. That sounds like a made up year.

Right?

French Rage

Chris '03
According to the band website, the current Pep Band Manager is Zachary Brothers '20. Not sure who the athletics advisor is at this point.

That's ridiculous, no way someone in college can be class of '20. That sounds like a made up year.

Right?

Well, as we see (repeatedly) during the intermissions on ILDN, E.B. White was a member of the class of ‘21

Chris '03
According to the band website, the current Pep Band Manager is Zachary Brothers '20. Not sure who the athletics advisor is at this point.

Thanks, I got to the orgsync page and completely missed the website link. The picture looks like who I talked to, so it must be correct.

French Rage

Chris '03
According to the band website, the current Pep Band Manager is Zachary Brothers '20. Not sure who the athletics advisor is at this point.

That's ridiculous, no way someone in college can be class of '20. That sounds like a made up year.

Right?

Everything now looks made up to me.

RichH

Trotsky

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

I believe I also neglected poor YAEL.

Regardless, this is illustrative of the higher level of discourse here.

That's YLAE. YAEL is Gaelic for syphilis.

French Rage

Trotsky

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

I want to hear what #29 Union has to say.

Did they drop three spots? [www.forbes.com]

ursusminor

French Rage

Trotsky

RichH
BROM? DARMOTH”

Will no one remember {PROVICED?

I want to hear what #29 Union has to say.

Did they drop three spots? [www.forbes.com]

Dammit! Mis-remembered the bit.

Jim Hyla
So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

.....

Some follow-up. A reliable source tells me that he was told that the Union pep band wasn't there, because if they are sold out, as they were, they sell the pep band seats.

AND THIS WAS ON THEIR SENIOR NIGHT.

Jim Hyla

Jim Hyla
So a copy of a letter that I'm sending to Union's president.

.....

Some follow-up. A reliable source tells me that he was told that the Union pep band wasn't there, because if they are sold out, as they were, they sell the pep band seats.

AND THIS WAS ON THEIR SENIOR NIGHT.

Your letter has been dutifully copied to the Union USCHO thread. It can be a real derpfest over there so I wouldn't expect much, but at least more people will see it.

Just curious. Was there in problem the previous evening in Troy? I know that the Cornell band was there.

ursusminor
Just curious. Was there in problem the previous evening in Troy? I know that the Cornell band was there.

Of course not. There was a really good interaction between that bands as far as I could see and the best RPI dig was that when they played the Dragnet theme (a 50s and 60s TV show that the youngsters might not realize is our dirge played as the opposition enters the penalty box) the RPI band started Davy and transitioned into Dragnet. It was the best prank they have pulled this season and I tip my Cornell cap to their band.

In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

marty
In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Is this because of a particular relationship between the current band leaders or just that RPI aren't little bitches like Union?

Trotsky

marty
In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Is this because of a particular relationship between the current band leaders or just that RPI aren't little bitches like Union?

I don't know, but there is a history of collegial interaction between bands and my memory is that RPI and Cornell have even played together.

Union had their underwear knotted quite a few years ago too. When the band played less than I expected I asked the Red Band Director why and was told Union had forbid playing at certain times.

I get the impression (not a bandy so I could totally be wrong) that Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson are really the only pep bands in the ECAC.

marty

Trotsky

marty
In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Is this because of a particular relationship between the current band leaders or just that RPI aren't little bitches like Union?

I don't know, but there is a history of collegial interaction between bands and my memory is that RPI and Cornell have even played together.

Union had their underwear knotted quite a few years ago too. When the band played less than I expected I asked the Red Band Director why and was told Union had forbid playing at certain times.

I remember Cornell and RPI bands playing together at LP or Albany. I also have a vague memory of Cornell and SLU playing together at a tourney, but to be fair I may just be mis-remembering playing with RPI (same colors).

Trotsky
I get the impression (not a bandy so I could totally be wrong) that Cornell, RPI, and Clarkson are really the only pep bands in the ECAC.

Yale has(d) one that didn't travel. My son still has his band Jersey. Jim will know more about the number of stagnant musicians.

In 2003 we visited "The (sold out) Whale". My son weedled some tickets for his parents. Then he resourcefully snuck his 15 year old sister into the band so she could enjoy the game. He also similarly rescued the younger brother of one of his classmates who was otherwise set to enjoy "The Vagina Monologues".

One of the Eli band's jokes was waving dollar bills at the refs as they skated by before the puck drop.

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

Trotsky

marty
In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Is this because of a particular relationship between the current band leaders or just that RPI aren't little bitches like Union?

I don't know, but there is a history of collegial interaction between bands and my memory is that RPI and Cornell have even played together.

Union had their underwear knotted quite a few years ago too. When the band played less than I expected I asked the Red Band Director why and was told Union had forbid playing at certain times.

I remember Cornell and RPI bands playing together at LP or Albany. I also have a vague memory of Cornell and SLU playing together at a tourney, but to be fair I may just be mis-remembering playing with RPI (same colors).

Pep bands combine on a semi-regular basis in tourney situations for a variety of reasons. My favorite memory of this is the 1997 West Regional - the Minnesota band showed up early, during our game against Miami, so they combined with the Cornell pep band to play for us. Cornell's pep band stuck around after the Cornell win over Miami to play for Minnesota when they played Michigan State. Very friendly stuff.

Beeeej
My favorite memory of this is the 1997 West Regional - the Minnesota band showed up early, during our game against Miami, so they combined with the Cornell pep band to play for us. Cornell's pep band stuck around after the Cornell win over Miami to play for Minnesota when they played Michigan State. Very friendly stuff.

That was fun but it was North Dakota, not MSU. Green though.

Trotsky

Beeeej
My favorite memory of this is the 1997 West Regional - the Minnesota band showed up early, during our game against Miami, so they combined with the Cornell pep band to play for us. Cornell's pep band stuck around after the Cornell win over Miami to play for Minnesota when they played Michigan State. Very friendly stuff.

That was fun but it was North Dakota, not MSU. Green though.

I assure you it was not. This was one of those awful years when the field was 12 teams; NoDak had a bye the first day, as did Michigan.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Jeff Hopkins '82

marty

Trotsky

marty
In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Is this because of a particular relationship between the current band leaders or just that RPI aren't little bitches like Union?

I don't know, but there is a history of collegial interaction between bands and my memory is that RPI and Cornell have even played together.

Union had their underwear knotted quite a few years ago too. When the band played less than I expected I asked the Red Band Director why and was told Union had forbid playing at certain times.

I remember Cornell and RPI bands playing together at LP or Albany. I also have a vague memory of Cornell and SLU playing together at a tourney, but to be fair I may just be mis-remembering playing with RPI (same colors).

Maybe, but doubtful that it was SLU. They have rarely had a band. I've seen an instrument or two, but not a full band. However my memory of far away may not be accurate.

I think all ECAC schools, except SLU, currently, and Union have pep bands. How well they function can vary over time. Even Brown has shown a good band.

Going way back, to the 1966 ECACs, it was Brown, Clarkson, BU and us in the old Boston Arena, now Northeastern's rink. We did not have a band, but after Brown lost their game, they came over to their fellow Ivy and played for us.

Certainly Clarkson, RPI and we have the best and most determined, but PU's band even came to Ithaca this year.

As an aside, we joined the Clarkson band for a "concert" this year in Potsdam.

So yes, Union is on the bottom of the barrel.

Beeeej

Trotsky

Beeeej
My favorite memory of this is the 1997 West Regional - the Minnesota band showed up early, during our game against Miami, so they combined with the Cornell pep band to play for us. Cornell's pep band stuck around after the Cornell win over Miami to play for Minnesota when they played Michigan State. Very friendly stuff.

That was fun but it was North Dakota, not MSU. Green though.

I assure you it was not. This was one of those awful years when the field was 12 teams; NoDak had a bye the first day, as did Michigan.

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Huh. I completely misremember that whole deal. Aging sucks.

marty

ursusminor
Just curious. Was there in problem the previous evening in Troy? I know that the Cornell band was there.

Of course not. There was a really good interaction between that bands as far as I could see and the best RPI dig was that when they played the Dragnet theme (a 50s and 60s TV show that the youngsters might not realize is our dirge played as the opposition enters the penalty box) the RPI band started Davy and transitioned into Dragnet. It was the best prank they have pulled this season and I tip my Cornell cap to their band.

In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Thanks. Now why can't the RPI hockey team be as good as the band, and even more so as good as RPI-TV?

Brown brought a Band for the first time I recall this year.

ursusminor

marty

ursusminor
Just curious. Was there in problem the previous evening in Troy? I know that the Cornell band was there.

Of course not. There was a really good interaction between that bands as far as I could see and the best RPI dig was that when they played the Dragnet theme (a 50s and 60s TV show that the youngsters might not realize is our dirge played as the opposition enters the penalty box) the RPI band started Davy and transitioned into Dragnet. It was the best prank they have pulled this season and I tip my Cornell cap to their band.

In fact RPI even lets the Cornell band do Davy during the Cornell intros.

Thanks. Now why can't the RPI hockey team be as good as the band, and even more so as good as RPI-TV?

This is like that joke where the Germans are the cops and the Italians are the bureaucrats...

Former Pep Bandie here.

Historically, there is some coordination between the pep bands at each game. They usually alternate playing in game breaks, for instance. Also, if there is something unusual in the game-day proceedings that's communicated to the visiting band (so they don't start playing and messing it up.) For example, some sort of tribute or something between periods. I'm assuming that this friendly co-ordination continues today.

Rink staff communicating to the band is absolutely within the norm. What's absurd in this situation is the message that the Union rink staff gave our band.


TLDR: The Union rink people are bitches

abmarks
Former Pep Bandie here.

Historically, there is some coordination between the pep bands at each game. They usually alternate playing in game breaks, for instance. Also, if there is something unusual in the game-day proceedings that's communicated to the visiting band (so they don't start playing and messing it up.) For example, some sort of tribute or something between periods. I'm assuming that this friendly co-ordination continues today.

Rink staff communicating to the band is absolutely within the norm. What's absurd in this situation is the message that the Union rink staff gave our band.


TLDR: The Union rink people are bitches

Do you ever remember being asked to play the National Anthem as the visiting band? Somehow I think I witnessed this but it probably was a high school game. They show more sportsmanship at that level than many colleges.

(Union had a PA system anthem on Saturday.)

upprdeck
Brown brought a Band for the first time I recall this year.

And, I believe, played with the Cornell Pep Band between periods.

upprdeck
Brown brought a Band for the first time I recall this year.

My freshman year, Brown's pep band came to Cornell and I remember they marched through West Campus before the game and we came out of our freshman dorms to taunt them. However, they had the last laugh when they pulled their goalie and scored an extra-man goal to tie the game and then beat us in OT. I later that night saw our goalie drinking beer out of a boot in the Chapter House.