NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues

This was posted on the r/collegehockey subreddit and I thought it may be of interest here.

so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Agganis has ~50% more seats than Lynah. It also has a "Premium Club" and VIP suites. That's where the money is made. It's likely parking revenue counts, too.

Plus they play more games, usually in larger arenas than ours.

revenue is only coming from home games, they only avg about 500 more than us and this year they played 1 more home game. so make tickets $20 on avg and thats about 300K..

we have box seats too that cost more, but we really should have done something like the VIP seating option here too. still could if they took the effort.

but factor in a suite cost.. say its 500 seats at $100 x 15 games thats 750K.

we charge for some parking so they probably make a mint more there but its only $100 and stil has lots of public transportation.. so say 1000 cars at $10 for 15 games thats 150K.

double everything and its 4 million.

still not even close to that revenue stream.

I wonder if this has to do with how Agganis Arena is budgeted? If it's primarily an ice hockey facility, but gets rented out for other events, does that revenue "belong" to the Hockey team(s)? It appears to get used for a lot of different things throughout the year, so that additional income could easily drive the rest of that revenue number.

Does TV revenue count? Concessions?

abmarks
Does TV revenue count? Concessions?

In the interest of thread drift I'll point out that Spectrum - the Time Warner replacement - did zero Union or RPI broadcasts this year. I think they decreased their coverage of Colgate, RIT and Niagara too.

TV revenue even if they showed every game wouldnt be all that much for hockey.

Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.

slh10
Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.

If you told me Spectrum removed Fox News, then I'd be Spectrum's biggest fan

scoop85

slh10
Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.

If you told me Spectrum removed Fox News, then I'd be Spectrum's biggest fan

It's fake news.

In-arena sponsorship revenue. Dasher board ads, etc...

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Beer

Al DeFlorio

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Beer

+1

pfibiger
I wonder if this has to do with how Agganis Arena is budgeted? If it's primarily an ice hockey facility, but gets rented out for other events, does that revenue "belong" to the Hockey team(s)? It appears to get used for a lot of different things throughout the year, so that additional income could easily drive the rest of that revenue number.

Yeah. It's pretty busy entertainment venue, showcasing everything from Disney on Ice to Bob Dylan. Live Nation events go there. If these numbers include what BU gets from those, that's a significant number.

And who knows what the TV revenue really is? NESN is an enormous & nationally-known RSN that probably pays out better than Time Warner of Upstate NY.

I went to the source data. [ope.ed.gov]

Revenues
All revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities. This includes revenues from appearance guarantees and options, contributions from alumni and others, institutional royalties, signage and other sponsorships, sport camps, state or other government support, student activity fees, ticket and luxury box sales, and any other revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities.

its not like every BU game is on tv.. They have been on TV 7-8 times this including ESPN3. bball doesnt pay all that much either and its way more than hockey money

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Given they are so far ahead of everybody, including the western factories, it is probably some hedge fund fuck's donation. That also tracks with who else is on top.

The problem is none of you morons are rich.

Data from other years would be great.

It is interesting to see the order of magnitude. Let's say every season about 200 dedicated hockey fans graduate. 50 seasons since the first national title gives us a 10k base. The left tail gets winnowed down by The Old, so let's say 8k are in a position for, ahem, development.

If each of us gives $3 a day we're the highest revenue NC$$ team for the year considered, and likely among the medalists every year.

College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?

cbuckser

Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?

Yep. That guy. The Nazi at NoDak. We probably have a few guys with dick issues, too.

From such neurosis are dominant programs born. The trick is to find them and pump them dry.

Trotsky

cbuckser

Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?

Yep. That guy. The Nazi at NoDak. We probably have a few guys with dick issues, too.

From such neurosis are dominant programs born. The trick is to find them and pump them dry.

Pump the dick's dry? Let's try to keep this site family-friendly.

Trotsky

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Given they are so far ahead of everybody, including the western factories, it is probably some hedge fund fuck's donation. That also tracks with who else is on top.

The problem is none of you morons are rich.

Data from other years would be great.

It is interesting to see the order of magnitude. Let's say every season about 200 dedicated hockey fans graduate. 50 seasons since the first national title gives us a 10k base. The left tail gets winnowed down by The Old, so let's say 8k are in a position for, ahem, development.

If each of us gives $3 a day we're the highest revenue NC$$ team for the year considered, and likely among the medalists every year.

College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

All of the data is available at [ope.ed.gov] if you want to download and play with it. For comparison, I pulled the 2003-2004 academic year. The BU rink (Agganis) opened in spring 2005, so I wanted something before that time