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NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues

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NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: jfeath17 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 19, 2018 10:11PM

This was posted on the r/collegehockey subreddit and I thought it may be of interest here.

 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 07:23AM

so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 07:58AM

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?

Agganis has ~50% more seats than Lynah. It also has a "Premium Club" and VIP suites. That's where the money is made. It's likely parking revenue counts, too.

Plus they play more games, usually in larger arenas than ours.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 20, 2018 09:26AM

revenue is only coming from home games, they only avg about 500 more than us and this year they played 1 more home game. so make tickets $20 on avg and thats about 300K..

we have box seats too that cost more, but we really should have done something like the VIP seating option here too. still could if they took the effort.

but factor in a suite cost.. say its 500 seats at $100 x 15 games thats 750K.

we charge for some parking so they probably make a mint more there but its only $100 and stil has lots of public transportation.. so say 1000 cars at $10 for 15 games thats 150K.

double everything and its 4 million.

still not even close to that revenue stream.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: pfibiger (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 10:05AM

I wonder if this has to do with how Agganis Arena is budgeted? If it's primarily an ice hockey facility, but gets rented out for other events, does that revenue "belong" to the Hockey team(s)? It appears to get used for a lot of different things throughout the year, so that additional income could easily drive the rest of that revenue number.

 
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Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 01:07PM

Does TV revenue count? Concessions?
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-147.myvzw.com)
Date: February 20, 2018 01:32PM

abmarks
Does TV revenue count? Concessions?

In the interest of thread drift I'll point out that Spectrum - the Time Warner replacement - did zero Union or RPI broadcasts this year. I think they decreased their coverage of Colgate, RIT and Niagara too.

:-(
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 20, 2018 01:45PM

TV revenue even if they showed every game wouldnt be all that much for hockey.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: slh10 (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2018 02:22PM

Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: scoop85 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2018 02:33PM

slh10
Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.

If you told me Spectrum removed Fox News, then I'd be Spectrum's biggest fan cheer
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Swampy (---.163.128.131.dhcp.uri.edu)
Date: February 20, 2018 02:37PM

scoop85
slh10
Actually Spectrum did away with the channels that carried those events. So now we get no local sports programming at all. And now they are in a contract pissing contest with Fox, so no Fox either.

If you told me Spectrum removed Fox News, then I'd be Spectrum's biggest fan cheer

It's fake news.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: adamw (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 04:36PM

In-arena sponsorship revenue. Dasher board ads, etc...
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 05:03PM

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?
Beer

 
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Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.128.104.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 06:29PM

Al DeFlorio
upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?
Beer

+1
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: RichH (134.223.230.---)
Date: February 20, 2018 06:40PM

pfibiger
I wonder if this has to do with how Agganis Arena is budgeted? If it's primarily an ice hockey facility, but gets rented out for other events, does that revenue "belong" to the Hockey team(s)? It appears to get used for a lot of different things throughout the year, so that additional income could easily drive the rest of that revenue number.

Yeah. It's pretty busy entertainment venue, showcasing everything from Disney on Ice to Bob Dylan. Live Nation events go there. If these numbers include what BU gets from those, that's a significant number.

And who knows what the TV revenue really is? NESN is an enormous & nationally-known RSN that probably pays out better than Time Warner of Upstate NY.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 08:32PM

I went to the source data. [ope.ed.gov]


Revenues
All revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities. This includes revenues from appearance guarantees and options, contributions from alumni and others, institutional royalties, signage and other sponsorships, sport camps, state or other government support, student activity fees, ticket and luxury box sales, and any other revenues attributable to intercollegiate athletic activities.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 20, 2018 10:54PM

its not like every BU game is on tv.. They have been on TV 7-8 times this including ESPN3. bball doesnt pay all that much either and its way more than hockey money
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2018 03:41AM

upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?
Given they are so far ahead of everybody, including the western factories, it is probably some hedge fund fuck's donation. That also tracks with who else is on top.

The problem is none of you morons are rich.

Data from other years would be great.

It is interesting to see the order of magnitude. Let's say every season about 200 dedicated hockey fans graduate. 50 seasons since the first national title gives us a 10k base. The left tail gets winnowed down by The Old, so let's say 8k are in a position for, ahem, development.

If each of us gives $3 a day we're the highest revenue NC$$ team for the year considered, and likely among the medalists every year.

College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2018 03:53AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: cbuckser (---.sub-174-222-140.myvzw.com)
Date: February 21, 2018 05:02PM

Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2018 05:05PM by cbuckser.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 21, 2018 06:45PM

cbuckser
Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?
Yep. That guy. The Nazi at NoDak. We probably have a few guys with dick issues, too.

From such neurosis are dominant programs born. The trick is to find them and pump them dry.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: February 21, 2018 10:04PM

Trotsky
cbuckser
Trotsky
College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.

Such as this guy?
Yep. That guy. The Nazi at NoDak. We probably have a few guys with dick issues, too.

From such neurosis are dominant programs born. The trick is to find them and pump them dry.

Pump the dick's dry? Let's try to keep this site family-friendly.
 
Re: NCAA D1 Mens Hockey Revenues
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 22, 2018 01:07AM

Trotsky
upprdeck
so what drives revenue after ticket sales? BU has only marginally more people in the seats than us? TV money isnt that big in college hockey? What makes up the difference?
Given they are so far ahead of everybody, including the western factories, it is probably some hedge fund fuck's donation. That also tracks with who else is on top.

The problem is none of you morons are rich.

Data from other years would be great.

It is interesting to see the order of magnitude. Let's say every season about 200 dedicated hockey fans graduate. 50 seasons since the first national title gives us a 10k base. The left tail gets winnowed down by The Old, so let's say 8k are in a position for, ahem, development.

If each of us gives $3 a day we're the highest revenue NC$$ team for the year considered, and likely among the medalists every year.

College hockey really is rinky dink, and can be dominated (fiscally) by just one of two lunatic outliers.


All of the data is available at [ope.ed.gov] if you want to download and play with it. For comparison, I pulled the 2003-2004 academic year. The BU rink (Agganis) opened in spring 2005, so I wanted something before that time
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/22/2018 01:32AM by abmarks.

 

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