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Yale at Cornell 2/17

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Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Iceberg (---.buffalo.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 02:56PM

Yale has been scoring goals recently and have won their last 3 conference games and last 5 games overall. They've scored at least 3 goals in all the victories and seem determined to host a playoff series in the first round.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 06:26PM

]Cornell has only four healthy everyday D-men tonight, plus Cairns. How is it that Schafer was only able to fill out a roster with six D-men who he is even comfortable playing in a game? Were Wedman's retirement and the severity of Bliss's injury not known until right before the season began? Shore was also on the roster when the year started, but Schafer wasn't confident playing him last year either, electing to move Rauter to D over him. Schafer could have considered bringing in a D-man midseason like a lot of other teams do to fill a need.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2018 06:27PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 07:04PM

McCrea hurt. Tshantz at F with Rauter pushed back to D.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: BigRedHockeyFan (---.phlapa.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 07:07PM

Good luck to Dwyer on his senior night.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:15PM

Here's betting that we lose Malott for one or both games next weekend.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:17PM

abmarks
Here's betting that we lose Malott for one or both games next weekend.
Schafer might sit him anyway. Dumb penalties.

 
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Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:22PM

Al DeFlorio
abmarks
Here's betting that we lose Malott for one or both games next weekend.
Schafer might sit him anyway. Dumb penalties.

Good point. Shafer ought to tell him after the game tonight that he's sitting next weekend regardless of the discipline the league meets out.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: BearLover (---.sub-97-47-64.myvzw.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:36PM

abmarks
Here's betting that we lose Malott for one or both games next weekend.
Did the hits look that bad to you? Impossible to tell over ILDN. Also, is there any precedent for handing out a two-game suspension for someone with no history?

Schafer should only bench him if the calls were right.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: redliner (---.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:55PM

Cornell's penalty kill has been struggling for a couple games now. Doesn't Yale have the worst power play in the country? Yale has two power play goals so far...
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 08:59PM

redliner
Cornell's penalty kill has been struggling for a couple games now. Doesn't Yale have the worst power play in the country? Yale has two power play goals so far...

That 2nd Yale goal wasn’t a classic power play goal, as it was just a great play with their guy undressing our D man
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.128.104.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:35PM

Not pretty, but we got the job done.

I think we just clinched first place, because even if we lose both games next weekend we've got the better record vs. Clarkson and Sucks (We're 2-1-1 and Union is 1-3).
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:43PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.

I think we just clinched first place, because even if we lose both games next weekend we've got the better record vs. Clarkson and Sucks (We're 2-1-1 and Union is 1-3).

It looks like total wins is the 2nd tiebreaker after head-to-head record. If we lose both next week and Union wins both, they go 17-5 and we go 16-4-2, giving them the tiebreak.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-70-214-99.myvzw.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:46PM

Mallot hits were both bad. Could tell from section M. He’ll be suspended
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.128.104.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:47PM

Dafatone
Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.

I think we just clinched first place, because even if we lose both games next weekend we've got the better record vs. Clarkson and Sucks (We're 2-1-1 and Union is 1-3).

It looks like total wins is the 2nd tiebreaker after head-to-head record. If we lose both next week and Union wins both, they go 17-5 and we go 16-4-2, giving them the tiebreak.

OK. I thought record versus the top 4 was the 2nd tiebreaker. My bad.

So just keep winning.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:52PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Dafatone
Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.

I think we just clinched first place, because even if we lose both games next weekend we've got the better record vs. Clarkson and Sucks (We're 2-1-1 and Union is 1-3).

It looks like total wins is the 2nd tiebreaker after head-to-head record. If we lose both next week and Union wins both, they go 17-5 and we go 16-4-2, giving them the tiebreak.

OK. I thought record versus the top 4 was the 2nd tiebreaker. My bad.

So just keep winning.

Get payback against RPI Friday and its moot
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:54PM

Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.
I thought it was pretty. Outside of the idiotic penalties, undermanned Cornell controlled play and created chances from start to finish, and completely negated Yale's final rush--basically the opposite of last night, even though both were wins. This was one of the games that makes me confident Cornell deserves a season like the one they've had.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2018 09:55PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.102.128.104.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 09:58PM

BearLover
Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.
I thought it was pretty. Outside of the idiotic penalties, undermanned Cornell controlled play and created chances from start to finish, and completely negated Yale's final rush--basically the opposite of last night, even though both were wins. This was one of the games that makes me confident Cornell deserves a season like the one they've had.

My comment was around the penalties mostly.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:03PM

BearLover
Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.
I thought it was pretty. Outside of the idiotic penalties, undermanned Cornell controlled play and created chances from start to finish, and completely negated Yale's final rush--basically the opposite of last night, even though both were wins. This was one of the games that makes me confident Cornell deserves a season like the one they've had.

Comments that our shooting percentage was artificially high may be apt. We got a lot of chances tonight and controlled play very well, but a lot of those chances didn't go in.

Enough did, though! Undefeated in Ivy play. Damn.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:12PM

listening to pre-game they didnt think the friday penalty was all that bad. the kid tripped over a stick and planted himself.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:23PM

Dafatone
BearLover
Jeff Hopkins '82
Not pretty, but we got the job done.
I thought it was pretty. Outside of the idiotic penalties, undermanned Cornell controlled play and created chances from start to finish, and completely negated Yale's final rush--basically the opposite of last night, even though both were wins. This was one of the games that makes me confident Cornell deserves a season like the one they've had.

Comments that our shooting percentage was artificially high may be apt. We got a lot of chances tonight and controlled play very well, but a lot of those chances didn't go in.

Enough did, though! Undefeated in Ivy play. Damn.
The Yale goalie made a couple saves in close that turned Yates' hair prematurely grey.

This was a good win against a hot team and a very, very good goalie.

Take it and smile.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:23PM

I just saw the highlights of the game, and I’m surprised (pleasantly so) that they didn’t review our 3rd goal, as Tchantz was pretty close to the Yale goalie and from the admittedly long view I wondered if Tchantz at all impeded the goalie’s lateral movement.

But no one on Yale seemed to gripe, so it probably wasn’t as close as it may have seemed to me.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:24PM

upprdeck
listening to pre-game they didnt think the friday penalty was all that bad. the kid tripped over a stick and planted himself.
I agree with that. Tonight was bad, though, and 2 in two games will make the league take notice.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:25PM

As we were talking about on the Chat, Yanni Kaldis had the game of his life tonight. He was everywhere.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:30PM

Trotsky
As we were talking about on the Chat, Yanni Kaldis had the game of his life tonight. He was everywhere.

He’ll be all ECAC 1st team you would think, and certainly in the running for All-American
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:38PM

scoop85
Trotsky
As we were talking about on the Chat, Yanni Kaldis had the game of his life tonight. He was everywhere.

He’ll be all ECAC 1st team you would think, and certainly in the running for All-American
The voters seem to stupidly only look at numbers for those honors, and at under half-a-point per game, Kaldis's numbers don't jump out. He logs a massive number of minutes per game and skates circles around opponents, but he turns the puck over a decent amount and I'm not even sure he's the best defenseman on the team (which says more about the defensemen on the team than it does about Kaldis).
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/17/2018 10:38PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 17, 2018 10:40PM

Highlight reel: [www.facebook.com]
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-144.myvzw.com)
Date: February 17, 2018 11:08PM

Trotsky
As we were talking about on the Chat, Yanni Kaldis had the game of his life tonight. He was everywhere.


I was in the chat but also in section O. As Yanni was working his magic I was in awe. I didn't expect the goal but he deserved more than half the credit.

The highlight of the night for me was the 3rd goal. I yelled YES! before Mullin touched the puck!
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 02:28AM

Dafatone
It looks like total wins is the 2nd tiebreaker after head-to-head record. If we lose both next week and Union wins both, they go 17-5 and we go 16-4-2, giving them the tiebreak.

Yes.


Seeding for championship competition is based on total points accumulated during league contests. In the event teams are tied in the final regular-season standings, the following tiebreakers (listed in order of application) shall be used to determine seeding. (Note: Only League games apply):

1. Comparison of game results between tied teams (head to head).
2. Wins.
3. Comparison of results of games against the top four teams.
4. Comparison of results of games against the top eight teams.
5. Goal differential in head-to-head competition.
6. Goal differential in games against the top four teams.
7. Goal differential in games against the top eight teams.

In the case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria will be used in order until a team, or teams, is separated from the pack. At that point, the process will begin anew to break the "new" tie. In other words, when a four-way tie becomes a three-way tie, the three-way tie is treated as a "new" tie and the process begins with the first criterion.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2018 02:30AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 02:32AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
I thought record versus the top 4 was the 2nd tiebreaker.
You're not crazy. That's the way it used to be.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2018 02:33AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Cop at Lynah (---.cupolice.cornell.edu)
Date: February 18, 2018 04:10AM

There was definitely contact between Tschantz and the goalie, but he was being shoved (cross checked) from the backside by a Yale player
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 09:00AM

scoop85
redliner
Cornell's penalty kill has been struggling for a couple games now. Doesn't Yale have the worst power play in the country? Yale has two power play goals so far...

That 2nd Yale goal wasn’t a classic power play goal, as it was just a great play with their guy undressing our D man

How about undressing the whole team.

Watch the replay, he had 4 CU players that had a chance to stop him. Terrible play on our part.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 10:13AM

Per playoffstatus.com, we have now clinched an NC$$ slot.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:17AM

0-4 and we stay in? lets beat RPI first.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-217-9.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:37AM

upprdeck
0-4 and we stay in? lets beat RPI first.

I can believe it. Clarkson has fallen off a cliff (1-5-4 since CHN ran an article titled "Clarkson is Here to Stay) and they're still in 7th.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:38AM

Trotsky
Per playoffstatus.com, we have now clinched an NC$$ slot.
Interesting that Clarkson, #7 in PWR, has only a 25% chance of making the NCAAs if they lose out, while Minny, #8, has a 96% chance if they lose out.

 
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Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:57AM

Al DeFlorio
Trotsky
Per playoffstatus.com, we have now clinched an NC$$ slot.
Interesting that Clarkson, #7 in PWR, has only a 25% chance of making the NCAAs if they lose out, while Minny, #8, has a 96% chance if they lose out.

I have to imagine that’s based on schedule strength
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:59AM

Worth mentioning that on our last power play in the 3rd period we had 6 freshman on the ice for a few moments. I got a kick out of that.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-144.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 01:08PM

scoop85
Worth mentioning that on our last power play in the 3rd period we had 6 freshman on the ice for a few moments. I got a kick out of that.

I loved the two 4x4 stints. Yale would have skated around us a few years ago.

:-) :-) :-) :-) x :-( :-( :-( :-(
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 18, 2018 01:53PM

I thought other than the few times Yale just cheated out we really controlled their speed well.. We got around their d multiple times to the net with control. Im not sure they ever did.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: CU2007 (---.sub-70-214-114.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2018 11:32PM

Kaldis is an awesome player.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2018 10:36PM by CU2007.
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2018 01:41PM

BearLover
The voters seem to stupidly only look at numbers for those honors, and at under half-a-point per game, Kaldis's numbers don't jump out.

+/- does him no favors, either.
+19 Smith      4 -  5 -  9
+18 Nuttle     2 -  9 - 11
+18 McCrea     4 -  6 - 10
 +9 Kaldis     3 - 10 - 13
 +9 Green      2 -  8 - 10
 +8 Haiskenen  0 -  1 -  1
 -1 Cairns     0 -  0 -  0
 
Re: Yale at Cornell 2/17
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: February 19, 2018 03:54PM

Kaldis this week was the best player on the ice with the puck.
 

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