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Uniom 2/2/18

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Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2018 07:13PM

Just wim, baby.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: January 30, 2018 07:25PM

I wondered who would be the first.

I knew it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: drs48 (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2018 09:20PM

+1
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: January 31, 2018 07:48AM

RichH
I wondered who would be the first.

I knew it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.

Don't ever takes sides against the Faithful again. dribble
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 31, 2018 08:39AM

Jeff Hopkins '82
RichH
I wondered who would be the first.

I knew it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.

Don't ever takes sides against the Faithful again. dribble

How do you say "banana daiquiri"?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Give My Regards (98.159.213.---)
Date: January 31, 2018 10:34AM

Trotsky
Jeff Hopkins '82
RichH
I wondered who would be the first.

I knew it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.

Don't ever takes sides against the Faithful again. dribble

How do you say "banana daiquiri"?

Break a cracker? I wanna see him break a brick!

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: January 31, 2018 10:47AM

Their previous opponent was the Comfederacy.

 
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03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 31, 2018 02:50PM

Mature crowd. Not a one approved of your post with the Budweiser cheer of approval.

 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: January 31, 2018 04:27PM

It doesn't look like the news of the team doing well is really causing any spike in ticket sale.. still hundreds left for Union.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 31, 2018 08:09PM

upprdeck
It doesn't look like the news of the team doing well is really causing any spike in ticket sale.. still hundreds left for Union.
My guess is we're going to see that ticket sales on the student side aren't correlated with how much we win, unless we win the national championship or something crazy like that. Many students have no idea/don't care how the team is doing and just go to games because they want to get rowdy. I could see the towny side selling better though.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: February 01, 2018 07:55AM

billhoward
Mature crowd. Not a one approved of your post with the Budweiser cheer of approval.

Philly! Philly!
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 06:39PM

Schafer confirms in the pre-game: Green back, Malott still not ready.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 07:40PM

Great first period. Plus I finally figured out Chromecast! Viewing Party at my house! :-)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2018 07:41PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-149.myvzw.com)
Date: February 02, 2018 07:41PM

Section L does not suck. The second goal was wonderful to watch.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 09:26PM

yesssss

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: French Rage (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 09:27PM

Whew!

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 02, 2018 09:32PM

French Rage
Whew!

Definite whew. Now I can obsess about Donaldson’s injury
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: DL (206.47.126.---)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:05PM

What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:07PM

DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
no idea. i've watched the replay like three times and unless cornell entered the zone offsides (i was listening on the radio for the first two periods) i'm at a loss.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:17PM

DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
Traffic in the crease was what I assumed at the time.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:21PM

Trotsky
DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
Traffic in the crease was what I assumed at the time.
here are the highlights. only traffic i see is wearing union sweaters

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:22PM

Looked great for much of the game but a ton of unforced turnovers. Is the team still sick? What did people make of the Donaldson injury?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: DL (206.47.139.---)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:23PM

ugarte
Trotsky
DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
Traffic in the crease was what I assumed at the time.
here are the highlights. only traffic i see is wearing union sweaters
Right? Or was it illegal for Locke to basically push the puck-plus-goalie-leg over the line?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:24PM

Trotsky
DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
Traffic in the crease was what I assumed at the time.

I was afraid that the GWG was going to get overturned as it looked like a Cornell player was in the crease as the puck came out and then was shot in.

Is this the best offensive talent a Schafer team has had or am I falling victim to what is new/recent and forgetting a more potent team offensively?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:33PM

JasonN95
Is this the best offensive talent a Schafer team has had or am I falling victim to what is new/recent and forgetting a more potent team offensively?
It's up there.

The 2003 and 2010 teams had some real O quality but the system did the "only man to hold Michael Jordan under 30 a night" thing.

The players inherited from Brian in 1996 and 1997 could score.

Here is the ECAC GPG line. We're running at 3.13 this year.

I'd still say 2010 was a more powerful cast.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2018 10:39PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:42PM

crazy game. as dominant first period as you will ever see.. Union stepped it the 2nd and won all the stick battles, caused some turnovers and got 3 2nd chance goals as Cornell had a tough time clearing the puck out.. yet at the same time Cornell when it got it deep had multiple long extended periods with control and tons of shot and actually outshot Union in the 2nd. the 3rd was much more Cornells way, Union had a few chances, Cornell again had extended cycle time missed 3-4 open nets,, and then the last 2 min with the goalie pulled it seemed like union won every draw and had the nice play to a cross ice pass and tough to tell if we made the save or it was shot high.

im not sure that union had more than 1-2 odd man entries into the zone all night, cornell must have had 10-12.

Whatever the waved off goal was Coach was not happy with the answer.

Donaldson looked like Collarbone the way he went off.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:45PM

Forgot to add, that was a great crowd for non Harvard/Clarkson game, place was full like the old days.. I heard several people who were at their only game of the year talking about going on the road if Cornell gets some place
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:48PM

JasonN95
Trotsky
DL
What was the deal with the waved off 4th goal?
Traffic in the crease was what I assumed at the time.

I was afraid that the GWG was going to get overturned as it looked like a Cornell player was in the crease as the puck came out and then was shot in.

Is this the best offensive talent a Schafer team has had or am I falling victim to what is new/recent and forgetting a more potent team offensively?
I had the same thought on the GWG.

Re: offensive talent, the 2005 team scored 112 goals and the 2003 team scored 123 [EDIT: tbrw says 133]. The 2010 team had 107 goals against a bit tougher competition. This year's team has 75 goals in 22 games. That's 119 goals over 35 games. Outside of the numbers, it's hard to say from just eyeballing it. Ryan Vesce, Matt Moulson, and Riley Nash probably haven't met their match in the past seven years though.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2018 10:49PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:51PM

upprdeck
Forgot to add, that was a great crowd for non Harvard/Clarkson game, place was full like the old days.. I heard several people who were at their only game of the year talking about going on the road if Cornell gets some place
This is how it used to be. We had so much fun at Lynah that we decided to make the Harvard trip one year, then the next year we figured maybe Colgate was doable... that's how the Faithful was built. It's the product of hundreds of spontaneous decisions all within the context of having a really fun time watching up tempo (and winning) hockey.

I for one welcome the coming bandwagon.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 10:53PM

upprdeck
Forgot to add, that was a great crowd for non Harvard/Clarkson game, place was full like the old days.. I heard several people who were at their only game of the year talking about going on the road if Cornell gets some place
That was probably the fullest I've seen Lynah over ILDN in the past few years for a non-Harvard game. Hope the fans had fun
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:00PM

upprdeck
crazy game. as dominant first period as you will ever see.. Union stepped it the 2nd and won all the stick battles, caused some turnovers and got 3 2nd chance goals as Cornell had a tough time clearing the puck out.. yet at the same time Cornell when it got it deep had multiple long extended periods with control and tons of shot and actually outshot Union in the 2nd. the 3rd was much more Cornells way, Union had a few chances, Cornell again had extended cycle time missed 3-4 open nets,, and then the last 2 min with the goalie pulled it seemed like union won every draw and had the nice play to a cross ice pass and tough to tell if we made the save or it was shot high.

im not sure that union had more than 1-2 odd man entries into the zone all night, cornell must have had 10-12.

Whatever the waved off goal was Coach was not happy with the answer.

Donaldson looked like Collarbone the way he went off.

Galajda made that save. It was right in front of me.

I was also told that Donaldson's been dealing with an on again / off again separated shoulder.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:04PM

separated should wound not surprise me.. he was in a lot of pain and dragging the arm, too bad, he seemed to be getting the jump back in his step again.


also late in the 2nd cornell had a mini break, i forget who, 11? anyway as he came in he went down, slid, and got up and attempted a shot.. did he not get tripped on that play? i know the crowd though so? I was thinking as he went down that it would be a penalty shot, but he somehow got back on his feet?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:17PM

upprdeck
late in the 2nd cornell had a mini break, i forget who, 11? anyway as he came in he went down, slid, and got up and attempted a shot.. did he not get tripped on that play? i know the crowd though so? I was thinking as he went down that it would be a penalty shot, but he somehow got back on his feet?
This was just one of a dozen similar plays with CU forwards deking around a man or dropping a shoulder and sneaking under/around their man. The usual suspects were Betts (11), Mitch (14),Bauld (9), and pre-injury Cam (7).

It didn't produce a lot tonight beyond ooos and ahs, but it was great to see and I'm sure it made U D-men think twice before pushing up into the play.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2018 11:20PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:29PM

marty
Section L does not suck. The second goal was wonderful to watch.

That looked almost like CCCP circa 1978
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:34PM

watched the replay of the no goal.. gonna have to hear what it possibly could have been.. maybe a skate touching the crease, dont see any goalie contact at all. can you call contact that happens multiple plays earlier ? strange that the linesman and the outside ref didnt question anything and the downlow ref waved it good, union didnt seem to complain?

did he push the leg and puck in? it wasnt covered in anyway does that make a difference?
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:41PM

watched the replay with just under 4 to go in the 2nd.. it was betts that was hooked and tripped on the same play, even the union kid almost went down after causing the contact.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 02, 2018 11:41PM

Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 06:21AM

ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-149.myvzw.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 07:12AM

Al DeFlorio
ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Interference seems like the only way that play could be overturned. Do they only have the overhead camera shot or are there more views in use during regular season games?

I wish the CUA Youtube folks would show more play development with their recap videos. Vanderlaan's work on the second goal was great. (They could also add slow motion replay when it adds to the interest. I'd love to see Anthony's second goal at Harvard in slo-mo.)
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/2018 07:15AM by marty.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 08:30AM

marty
Al DeFlorio
ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Interference seems like the only way that play could be overturned. Do they only have the overhead camera shot or are there more views in use during regular season games?

I wish the CUA Youtube folks would show more play development with their recap videos. Vanderlaan's work on the second goal was great. (They could also add slow motion replay when it adds to the interest. I'd love to see Anthony's second goal at Harvard in slo-mo.)
yeah i also don't understand why the broadcast can't show replays (other ILN channels do) or a second angle, since there have to be goal cameras, at least. Not to be totally negative; I appreciate that they get the goals and game highlights up quickly on Twitter and the camera work is better than a lot of other hockey I've watched this season.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: JasonN95 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 08:38AM

Al DeFlorio
ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan’s leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn’t have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 08:47AM

JasonN95
Al DeFlorio
ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan’s leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn’t have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.

Yeah, after I saw the replay I had to assume the ruling was that Vanderlaan impeded the goalie’s ability to move laterally towards his left. No other explanation seems plausible.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 09:34AM

how many goals we have lost to these replays and yet we have seen goalies completely blocked in past years and no call.

i wanted to see a replay of the union goal that went in high..it looked to just tuck under the bar and came down on the line then was cleared.. live it looked good but it was close to just being cross bar and down live too.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 10:47AM

scoop85
JasonN95
Al DeFlorio
ugarte
Sun livetweet says it was a crease violation
Sun article says goalie interference, quotes Locke saying the same.

Watching it again it looks like Vanderlaan’s leg comes into contact with the goalie in the crease. Not with any force but enough that the goalie didn’t have free movement in the crease. That may be the difference between the waived off goal and the GWG. On the GWG the Cornell player in the crease did not in any way impede the goalie.

Yeah, after I saw the replay I had to assume the ruling was that Vanderlaan impeded the goalie’s ability to move laterally towards his left. No other explanation seems plausible.

Or interfered with ability to cover the puck and not let it get to Locke. I believe it was the correct call, but it would be nice to see the overhead view.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 10:51AM

This game was another example of "enjoy this as it goes", for it could easily end at any time. With a modest few changes, we could be feeling what Clarkson is currently experiencing.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 11:31AM

it comes to every team.. will it come early or late is the big question,
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 12:50PM

"You are never as good as you look when you're winning and you are never as bad as you look when you are losing." Take advantage of this stretch to rack up the wins and position ourselves to have the best shot in the post-season.

Then: que sera, sera.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/2018 12:52PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 01:30PM

Given that we've already (basically) secured a bye and an NCAA bid, I'm most concerned about getting Donaldson back.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 02:07PM

Can anybody at the game tell me about the two players locked up on the ice at the blueline in front of Section B about halfway through the third period? No call but lots of hands in the air supplicating at the section.

 
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Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 02:13PM

BearLover
Given that we've already (basically) secured a bye and an NCAA bid, I'm most concerned about getting Donaldson back.
And Malott.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 03:26PM

starrett got knocked down and he held the union guy with his legs and union guy kept hitting him in head.. ref just ignored it
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: osorojo (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: February 03, 2018 03:55PM

USCHO article title: "Cornell avoids upset" - NOT "Cornell wins D-1 hockey's best 12th in-a-row" or "Top-ranked Cornell adds to win streak" No big deal except there seems to have been a string of dog-in-the-manger articles/titles from USCHO's ECAC correspondent.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.nys.biz.rr.com)
Date: February 03, 2018 05:11PM

osorojo
USCHO article title: "Cornell avoids upset" - NOT "Cornell wins D-1 hockey's best 12th in-a-row" or "Top-ranked Cornell adds to win streak" No big deal except there seems to have been a string of dog-in-the-manger articles/titles from USCHO's ECAC correspondent.

Actually, "Cornell avoids upset" about covers the game for me. Either that or "Cornell avoids loss." Because we didn't play well enough consistently to earn any respect after the 1st period.
 
Re: Uniom 2/2/18
Posted by: YZ (---.cit.cornell.edu)
Date: February 05, 2018 01:42PM

TimV
Can anybody at the game tell me about the two players locked up on the ice at the blueline in front of Section B about halfway through the third period? No call but lots of hands in the air supplicating at the section.

I went over the game on ILDN and the incident happened around 10:36-10:26 left on the clock. Check the very lower right and you will be able to see how uniom 26 threw punches at Starrett. It just happened in front of me and it was a downright shame there was no call.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2018 01:44PM by YZ.
 

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