Recruits 2018 (and beyond)

Time for a new recruiting thread.

Forward Chase Brakel from Portage of the Manitoba Junior Hockey League has committed to Cornell for next season.

Brakel can score: 76-91-167 in 154 career MJHL games.

The Portage Terriers' webpage is brought to you by Manitoba Liquor and Lotteries.

Haiskenan played for Portage before going to the USHL, and Sean Collins played in the MJHL

Ithaca is urban by comparison.

Portage la Prairie is an hour west of Winnipeg. Trans-Canadian Hwy runs through. Not that remote. Not that big, either, about half Ithaca's population.

Ithaca produced Dustin Brown. No reason why Portage can't produce at least a fine college hockey player, even if Portage is smaller than Ithaca. How many D-1 hockey players came out of New York City or Hong Kong last year?

osorojo
Ithaca produced Dustin Brown. No reason why Portage can't produce at least a fine college hockey player, even if Portage is smaller than Ithaca. How many D-1 hockey players came out of New York City or Hong Kong last year?

I don't think anyone was implying a small, Canadian town couldn't produce a good hockey player - merely an off-the-cuff observation.

Having followed the Islanders during their glory years, I know that Moose Jaw, roughly the population of Ithaca, has produced many fine NHL players. I always got a kick out of the town name and imagined that it was a town of bear-skin shelters located above the arctic circle (it is actually not that far from Regina and connected by highways and rail lines).

Of course, there is probably a 10:1 population correction factor for the Canada:US hockey playing population.
Fun Fact: demonym is Moose Javian

Roy 82
Having followed the Islanders during their glory years, I know that Moose Jaw, roughly the population of Ithaca, has produced many fine NHL players. I always got a kick out of the town name and imagined that it was a town of bear-skin shelters located above the arctic circle (it is actually not that far from Regina and connected by highways and rail lines).

Of course, there is probably a 10:1 population correction factor for the Canada:US hockey playing population.
Fun Fact: demonym is Moose Javian

Clark Gillies FTW, though of course everybody also knows it from the fashion show in Slap Shot.

And the birthplace of Art Linkletter.

Then there's Joe Dragon..... I don't recall the name of his hometown... I just remember hearing that it was 1000 miles north of Edmonton...I'm betting that it too was a pretty small town..

redice
Then there's Joe Dragon..... I don't recall the name of his hometown... I just remember hearing that it was 1000 miles north of Edmonton...I'm betting that it too was a pretty small town..

Fort Smith, Northwest Territories.

[www.google.com]

Beeeej
Fort Smith, Northwest Territories.

60th parallel north. Same as Saint Petersburg, Uppsala, and for you Risk fans, Kamchatka.

Mining. Seems lovely.

Beeeej

redice
Then there's Joe Dragon..... I don't recall the name of his hometown... I just remember hearing that it was 1000 miles north of Edmonton...I'm betting that it too was a pretty small town..

Fort Smith, Northwest Territories.

[www.google.com]

I also recall them saying on the radio that Joe couldn't go home for Christmas because he didn't have time to make it home & back in the allotted time... Now, THAT's a long trip!!

redice
also recall them saying on the radio that Joe couldn't go home for Christmas because he didn't have time to make it home & back in the allotted time... Now, THAT's a long trip!!

Sled dogs need rest.

My favorite Joe Dragon story was his frat putting a personal in the Sun reading, "No, Joe. Dragon Day wasn't started for you."

Trotsky

Beeeej
Fort Smith, Northwest Territories.

60th parallel north. Same as Saint Petersburg, Uppsala, and for you Risk fans, Kamchatka.

Mining. Seems lovely.

And now he's even farther north -- Yellowknife, NWT. Ithaca in winter must have felt downright balmy for him.

Good God.

Trotsky
Good God.

-23c is only -9.4f.

George64

Trotsky
Good God.

-23c is only -9.4f.

I'll bring my thong.

currently -31c or a balmy -24f

Last night was projected as brisk -40. A special temp where C and F are the same.

IIRC correctly, the Ferguson brothers came from Moose Jaw. We'd do OK with another set.

Swampy
IIRC correctly, the Ferguson brothers came from Moose Jaw. We'd do OK with another set.

Birsay, just northwest.

George64

Trotsky

Beeeej
Fort Smith, Northwest Territories.

60th parallel north. Same as Saint Petersburg, Uppsala, and for you Risk fans, Kamchatka.

Mining. Seems lovely.

And now he's even farther north -- Yellowknife, NWT. Ithaca in winter must have felt downright balmy for him.

It's now 3 degrees in Rochester, colder than Yellowknife at 7. Worse if you consider windchill, -17 compared to -5.

Nice plug for recruit Jack O'Leary, who is probably due for arrival 2019-20

Sounds a lot like Cam Donaldson--who among us wouldn't sign up for that?

scoop85
Nice plug for recruit Jack O'Leary, who is probably due for arrival 2019-20

Sounds a lot like Cam Donaldson--who among us wouldn't sign up for that?

"I'll take eighteen of 'em, all day long."

Just a reminder, please use this Recruits thread now. Thanks.

about Lagerstrom:

4⭐️ prospect is a big, versatile, two-way defender with a heavy shot and strong down low in his end. He uses his size and reach to his advantage and makes a firm, accurate first pass out of his end. Our No. 4 ranked uncommitted prospect in @HSEliteHockey. [t.co]

— Neutral Zone (@_Neutral_Zone) January 21, 2018

Lagers trim is a rare pickup for us territory wise. Shattuck is an absolute top end school for hockey talent iirc. The kid must really want to get away from home in Minnesota.

I'll take a point per game d man!

lol to this quote

ugarte
lol to this quote

I think it shows a deep and subtle grasp of Gilbert Ryle's concept of Mind.

Nice article about Zach Bramwell here. It even gets the scholarship situation right.

Only flaw is that the article probably was written before the current USA Today poll came out.

Swampy
Nice article about Zach Bramwell here. It even gets the scholarship situation right.

Only flaw is that the article probably was written before the current USA Today poll came out.

that's where my screencap came from - and someone already posted it - but it wasn't in the recruits thread and i didn't want to go spelunking for it

Trotsky

ugarte
lol to this quote

I think it shows a deep and subtle grasp of Gilbert Ryle's concept of Mind.

The kid has a future in politics.

Rory Guilday (Minnetonka HS) commits to Cornell University for 2021-2022 @tonkahockeygirl @CornellWHockey

— WHockey Commits (@WHockeyCommits) February 6, 2018

And there it is. Our first player born after 9/11.

New forward recruit from Saint Andrews College, training ground for both Galajda and Barron:

Extremely excited to announce my commitment to play hockey at Cornell University! Thank you to… [t.co]

— Matt Stienburg (@mstienburg17) February 21, 2018

I didn’t find much info about Stienburg other than he scored 3 goals in a tournament this season against Shattuck St. Mary’s and Culver Academy

Matt Stienburg, a Halifax, NS native, has 23 points in 12 games so far in his first season at St. Andrew's College. Here is a video on his 2015 comeback from osteomyelitis in his shoulder.

His father, Trevor, is a former first-round pick who played 71 games for the Quebec Nordiques. Trevor is now the head coach for the men's hockey team at St. Mary's University. That's the school where Noah Bauld's mother, Xiofei Song, is an accounting professor.

cbuckser
Here is a video on his 2015 comeback from osteomyelitis in his shoulder.

So. Some bonehead "there's a rainbow in Toronto" doctor diagnosed him with tendonitis and if they hadn't caught it in time they could have needed to amputate his arm.

I don't think he's going to be too intimidated by Harvard.

Trotsky
So. Some bonehead "there's a rainbow in Toronto" doctor diagnosed him with tendonitis and if they hadn't caught it in time they could have needed to amputate his arm.

Jeez Greg. Gimme a break. If this job was easy, ANYBODY could do it.

Great vid though.

Angela Huo (Brampton Canadettes BAA) commits to Cornell University for 2021-2022 @bcgha @CornellWHockey

— WHockey Commits (@WHockeyCommits) February 21, 2018

Climate change threatens hockey pipeline.

According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):

Forwards (4)

Max Andreev, USHL, 20
Chase Brakel, MJHL, 19
Liam Motley, AJHL, 21
Michael Regush, USHL, 20

Defensmen (3)

Sebastian Dirven, USCHL, 20
Joe Leahy, BCHL, 21
Andong Song, USHL, 21

Goaltenders (1)

Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

Trotsky
According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):

Forwards (4)

Max Andreev, USHL, 20
Chase Brakel, MJHL, 19
Liam Motley, AJHL, 21
Michael Regush, USHL, 20

Defensmen (3)

Sebastian Dirven, USCHL, 20
Joe Leahy, BCHL, 21
Andong Song, USHL, 21

Goaltenders (1)

Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

Someone tell me how to feel.

redliner

Trotsky
According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):

Forwards (4)

Max Andreev, USHL, 20
Chase Brakel, MJHL, 19
Liam Motley, AJHL, 21
Michael Regush, USHL, 20

Defensmen (3)

Sebastian Dirven, USCHL, 20
Joe Leahy, BCHL, 21
Andong Song, USHL, 21

Goaltenders (1)

Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

Someone tell me how to feel.

How about old, but good.

I don't know about quality, but the numbers are encouraging.

redliner

Trotsky
According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):

Forwards (4)

Max Andreev, USHL, 20
Chase Brakel, MJHL, 19
Liam Motley, AJHL, 21
Michael Regush, USHL, 20

Defensmen (3)

Sebastian Dirven, USCHL, 20
Joe Leahy, BCHL, 21
Andong Song, USHL, 21

Goaltenders (1)

Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

Someone tell me how to feel.

Is this where we start calling for Schafer's head on a platter? I lose track of that every season.

Beeeej

redliner

Trotsky
According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):

Forwards (4)

Max Andreev, USHL, 20
Chase Brakel, MJHL, 19
Liam Motley, AJHL, 21
Michael Regush, USHL, 20

Defensmen (3)

Sebastian Dirven, USCHL, 20
Joe Leahy, BCHL, 21
Andong Song, USHL, 21

Goaltenders (1)

Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

Someone tell me how to feel.

Is this where we start calling for Schafer's head on a platter? I lose track of that every season.

This might help. Schafer Named Finalist for Spencer Penrose Award

Not that it's a surprise, since every conference COTY is automatically a finalist.

Somewhere along the line, Joey Kubachka, who committed when he was about 7, dropped off Heisenberg.

Trotsky
Somewhere along the line, Joey Kubachka, who committed when he was about 7, dropped off Heisenberg.

Someone had seen that he retired from hockey

Trotsky
According to BRPH, the following commits are expected to come in the Fall (listed with age on 11/1/18):
Goaltenders (1)
Nate McDonald, OJHL, 19

McDonald must have exceptional talent, an excess of optimism, or he has a fluid motion with his stick hand that gets the gate open. Omar was world class in that.

billhoward
McDonald must have exceptional talent, an excess of optimism, or he has a fluid motion with his stick hand that gets the gate open. Omar was world class in that.

Dude gets a Cornell degree and you never know with injuries.

Trotsky

billhoward
McDonald must have exceptional talent, an excess of optimism, or he has a fluid motion with his stick hand that gets the gate open. Omar was world class in that.

Dude gets a Cornell degree and you never know with injuries.

David and Veronica Galajda might've thought they'd have to wait til sophomore year for their son to get any real playing time. They might not be thrilled at why they were wrong, but still. It's only one of many factors in the decision-making process.

"Veronica Galajda" is an awesome name. Sounds like an English Lit professor who secretly moonlights as a super spy.

Trotsky
"Veronica Galajda" is an awesome name. Sounds like an English Lit professor who secretly moonlights as a super spy.

A spy for whom? Hungary?

ursusminor

Trotsky
"Veronica Galajda" is an awesome name. Sounds like an English Lit professor who secretly moonlights as a super spy.

A spy for whom? Hungary?

That's the secret.

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
"Veronica Galajda" is an awesome name. Sounds like an English Lit professor who secretly moonlights as a super spy.

A spy for whom? Hungary?

That's the secret.

Make sure she wears gloves when opening her front door.

just going to point out one last time that galadja's numbers were not materially different than stewart's and while this past season was amazing, i think a quality goalie coming in has plenty of reason to think he can compete for playing time regardless of galajda's accolades. "it's the system" didn't become a cliche out of thin air.

ugarte
just going to point out one last time that galadja's numbers were not materially different than stewart's and while this past season was amazing, i think a quality goalie coming in has plenty of reason to think he can compete for playing time regardless of galajda's accolades. "it's the system" didn't become a cliche out of thin air.

Given that in the Schafer era we have seen five or so goalies who have put up among the best numbers in the country and none of them have had a substantial NHL career, I do think the system has a lot to do with it

BearLover

ugarte
just going to point out one last time that galadja's numbers were not materially different than stewart's and while this past season was amazing, i think a quality goalie coming in has plenty of reason to think he can compete for playing time regardless of galajda's accolades. "it's the system" didn't become a cliche out of thin air.

Given that in the Schafer era we have seen five or so goalies who have put up among the best numbers in the country and none of them have had a substantial NHL career, I do think the system has a lot to do with it

Well since most of us would have a hard time properly lacing up the skates or tightening the straps on the pads, your comment is a serious slap at Scrivens. I'd trade a year or two of my somewhat mundane career for one of Ben's NHL shutouts.

Maybe it's because I'm reading "The Game", but I think you're being an ass.

Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

marty

BearLover

ugarte
just going to point out one last time that galadja's numbers were not materially different than stewart's and while this past season was amazing, i think a quality goalie coming in has plenty of reason to think he can compete for playing time regardless of galajda's accolades. "it's the system" didn't become a cliche out of thin air.

Given that in the Schafer era we have seen five or so goalies who have put up among the best numbers in the country and none of them have had a substantial NHL career, I do think the system has a lot to do with it

Well since most of us would have a hard time properly lacing up the skates or tightening the straps on the pads, your comment is a serious slap at Scrivens. I'd trade a year or two of my somewhat mundane career for one of Ben's NHL shutouts.

Maybe it's because I'm reading "The Game", but I think you're being an ass.

I'm a huge fan of Ben, but I'm just being objective--he started 130 games over six seasons and seems to be out of the league for good now. He also presumably doesn't read this forum. But you're right that my definition of "substantial NHL career" is probably too strict. 130 starts is more than I had thought, and lasting parts of six years in the NHL is a great achievement, even if I wouldn't necessarily consider that an "NHL career."

marty
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Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

A friend had given us tickets, so my wife and happened to be at this game. It's a interesting week in Chicago when the two biggest sports stories are an accountant and a nun.

David Harding

marty
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Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

A friend had given us tickets, so my wife and happened to be at this game. It's a interesting week in Chicago when the two biggest sports stories are an accountant and a nun.

So they walk into a pub, and the bartender says, "__________________"

a) " ... still doesn't add up"
b) " ... but don't get into the habit"
c) " ... and that those prices, you won't get many talking giraffes"
d) " ... not unless Toews skates a better game"

The wages of sin is death.

Trotsky
The wages of sin is death.

Or, "I was talking to the duck."

David Harding

marty

Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

A friend had given us tickets, so my wife and happened to be at this game. It's a interesting week in Chicago when the two biggest sports stories are an accountant and a nun.

His database page is an instant classic. If you watch the saves, you can tell he's getting into a groove after a slow warmup; his rebound control was excellent on the last couple. What a story!

Scersk '97

David Harding

marty

Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

A friend had given us tickets, so my wife and happened to be at this game. It's a interesting week in Chicago when the two biggest sports stories are an accountant and a nun.

His database page is an instant classic. If you watch the saves, you can tell he's getting into a groove after a slow warmup; his rebound control was excellent on the last couple. What a story!

Oh, hey, Cornell couldn't beat him in two tries.
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Would be nice to see the program build on this season's success with some new higher-end commitments soon...

BearLover
Would be nice to see the program build on this season's success with some new higher-end commitments soon...

You got me curious about commit timing so I took a look at Heisenberg's list. It appears most of Cornell's commits have come during the season - I just eyeballed the commit dates column for the past couple of years but I'd guess 80% happened in the fall. BC and BU (they were at the top of the "by school" listing sheet) seem to follow the same pattern. Makes sense - the NCAA has rules about this stuff so I suspect most kids end up committing on the recruiting calendar.

Even if nothing much happens in the spring you can still hold out hope for September through November.

marty
Hell, I'd trade a lot for this too.

Jesus- it's a small hockey world.

I'd missed seeing this story until reading marty's post. While reading it, one of the beer-league guys was quoted and his name rung a bell. When I was in B-School at Michigan, we had a club team from the B-School and one of our best players was an undergrad - turns out that he, Mike Hendrie, the beer-league guy quoted extensively in the article. Great player, could have played in college, just not at Michigan.

BearLover
Would be nice to see the program build on this season's success with some new higher-end commitments soon...

How will we know who is a blue chippah, though? There doesn't seem to be a resource equivalent to Rivals.

Trotsky

BearLover
Would be nice to see the program build on this season's success with some new higher-end commitments soon...

How will we know who is a blue chippah, though? There doesn't seem to be a resource equivalent to Rivals.

It is harder to get a read on hockey recruits compared to some other sports because of the differences in the competition levels among the various leagues. Based on who we believe to be coming in the fall, I don't think the incoming class will be quite as impactful as this past season's freshman class--but then again, few of our freshmen classes have ever performed as well as the most recent group. Centers Mike Regush and Max Andreev from the USHL appear most likely to be immediate contributors, as they put up 45 points and 40 points respectively this season in the best junior league in North America. Forwards Liam Motley of Whitecourt of the AJHL and Chase Brakel from the MJHL put up strong numbers against somewhat lesser competition, so it's a harder to forecast how much they will contribute early on.

Given that all of our defensive corps is coming back, I wouldn't expect Joe Leahy or Andong Song to see much ice time next year. Nate McDonald, the goalie recruit, did not put up great numbers in the OJHL, but it seems he played for a couple of lousy teams. Of course with Galajda coming back, barring injury I don't think we'll see much of either McDonald or McGrath in the net for the next few years.

I think the 2019 class may have a bit higher upside. Travis Mitchell has been one of the better defensemen in the USHL this season, and forward Ben Berard is tearing it up for Powell River in the BCHL. After putting up 67 points in 58 regular season games, Berard has lit it up with 20 points in just 15 playoff games. Unfortunately his team is down 3-1 in their playoff series to Prince George, so Ben's season may soon be coming to an end. But he looks like a pretty high end offensive player, and with another year in junior he should only get better.

Trotsky

BearLover
Would be nice to see the program build on this season's success with some new higher-end commitments soon...

How will we know who is a blue chippah, though? There doesn't seem to be a resource equivalent to Rivals.

... because he committed to BU or Penn State or North Dakota? We do well with what we get. It has been a while since we've had a Rob Pannell or Jeff Teat-on-skates.

I know we do well with what we get. I'm quite satisfied with both our recruiting and our performance. But it would be interesting if hockey had star-ratings for prospects. The data might be garbage -- it might be garbage for the football sites. But it would add a little more information on incoming classes.

Trotsky
I know we do well with what we get. I'm quite satisfied with both our recruiting and our performance. But it would be interesting if hockey had star-ratings for prospects. The data might be garbage -- it might be garbage for the football sites. But it would add a little more information on incoming classes.

It's been quite a while since I've looked at Heisenberg's site, largely because he changed its look & feel to something less user-friendly than the old format. But he used to rank players within their leagues. I don't know how he did it, but his rankings and the schools players committed to seemed to correlate.

Hockey also has the NHL draft and the NHL's prospect rankings. We'd be great if we could get say 4 of the top 5. Oh wait, BU & Michigan already have 2 of them.

Swampy

Trotsky
I know we do well with what we get. I'm quite satisfied with both our recruiting and our performance. But it would be interesting if hockey had star-ratings for prospects. The data might be garbage -- it might be garbage for the football sites. But it would add a little more information on incoming classes.

It's been quite a while since I've looked at Heisenberg's site, largely because he changed its look & feel to something less user-friendly than the old format. But he used to rank players within their leagues. I don't know how he did it, but his rankings and the schools players committed to seemed to correlate.

Hockey also has the NHL draft and the NHL's prospect rankings. We'd be great if we could get say 4 of the top 5. Oh wait, BU & Michigan already have 2 of them.

I don't think we're ever going to get a top 10 NHL prospect. Not to put too fine a point on it, but those guys aren't going to school for school, so why go to a place where you have to study? At all? That's what the Minnesotas and North Dakotas of the world exist for. Not to mention that those guys are 2 and screw if you're lucky.

I would be pleased with the kind of 3 or 4 (out of 5)-star recruits that go in the middle rounds. Guys who are pretty much assured of an AHL career and who are hopeful of developing into an NHL talent, but it's not a lock so they are going to get the degree as a fall back. Guys like Ferlin, Sawada, Hynes, Bitz, O'Byrne. Sometimes it works out for them in the pros; sometimes it doesn't. We get them for 3 or 4 years and they are really solid albeit not spectacular.

Stock a team with a half dozen of those guys and I'll take my chances in the NC$$ against anyone not named RPI '85.

scoop85
It is harder to get a read on hockey recruits compared to some other sports because of the differences in the competition levels among the various leagues. Based on who we believe to be coming in the fall, I don't think the incoming class will be quite as impactful as this past season's freshman class…

I think the 2019 class may have a bit higher upside. Travis Mitchell has been one of the better defensemen in the USHL this season, and forward Ben Berard is tearing it up for Powell River in the BCHL. After putting up 67 points in 58 regular season games, Berard has lit it up with 20 points in just 15 playoff games.

This. One wonders if Berard might come in next year, given the recent departure.

Also, and I hate to say it: Harvard really looks to have an unusually good recruiting class coming in next year.

I know, I know… They're all blue chippahs when they commit to Harvard, and then Teddy finds a way of squandering the talent. I keep repeating that to myself.

But…

We only had Dryden for three years.

billhoward
We only had Dryden for three years.

Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Trotsky

billhoward
We only had Dryden for three years.

Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Yeah, by setting up Brian Cropper

billhoward
We only had Dryden for three years.

Yeah, but it was the last three years!

Maybe what we need to do with any blue chippahs coming in, if we get any, is to not let them play varsity their freshman year. What NHL team would want them early if they can't even make the varsity their first year here?

Larry72

Trotsky

billhoward
We only had Dryden for three years.

Sure but he gave us that undefeated season in 1970...

Yeah, by setting up Brian Cropper

I guess my timing's off the last couple days...

Here's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

2018 NHL entry draft begins tonight. A quick perusal of the final Central Scouting list shows zippo for us.

Trotsky
Here's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless". Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.


RPI's list also included Donavan Ott who already played during the second semester of last season.

ursusminor

Trotsky
Here's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless". Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.

Would you mind terribly transcribing the Cornell recruit profiles? I would greatly appreciate that.

Trotsky

ursusminor

Trotsky
Here's somebody trying to do recruiting class rankings, but the full material is behind a paywall.

Trotsky,

I subscribe to NZ. The evaluations of recruits are quite worthwhile, however their ranking of classes IMHO has a lot of faults. First of all, there are a lot of mistakes as to who is coming this year. Second, there are some recruits whom they know nothing about (e.g., RPI has a recruit from Finland) who they then assign a zero to. If they know nothing about someone, I would think the expected value is the average of the school's entire class, unless they think "we never heard of them -- thus he is worthless". Third, they apparently just add up the values which they give to each recruit, so RPI with supposedly 15 recruits, ranks higher than I would give them. The 15 includes a decommitted recruit, one who is deferring until 2019, and the Finn whom they rate as 0.

Anyway, Cornell is #25, which is 5th in the ECAC.

Would you mind terribly transcribing the Cornell recruit profiles? I would greatly appreciate that.

I have not done that for any RPI recruit feeling that it is copyrighted. Thus I won't do that for other schools either. While I haven't checked any of the Cornell players, there are some RPI recuits whom they have scouted on about 10 occasions, so it would be quite lengthy.

I can give the number of stars they have been awarded since they tweet these often. These are whom they have included for 2018:
Maxim Andreyev 4
Chase Brakel 3.75
Sebastian Dirven 4
Joey Kubachka 3.5
Joseph Leahy 4
Nate McDonald 3.5
Travis Mitchell 3.75
Liam Motley 3.75
Joshua Nelson 3.5
Michael Regush 4
Andong Song 3.25

Thank you. Is 4 the top?

Trotsky
Thank you. Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

ursusminor

Trotsky
Thank you. Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

That seems right.

Thank you again.

BTW, Kubachka and Nelson have decommitted.

Incoming class is announced. Seemingly no surprise additions or omissions.

ursusminor

Trotsky
Thank you. Is 4 the top?

5.00. The only Cornell recruit since 2016 who was greater than 4.00 was Yanni Kaldis at 4.50.


Edit: Wahlstrom was an example of a 5.00.

Even with 4.5 stars others were selected over Kaldis in the NHL draft.

not a recruiting thing but a fund raising note, the golf/hockey/skate/dinner/rackers event is this sat. for those looking for something to do this weekend.

scoop85
Incoming class is announced. Seemingly no surprise additions or omissions.

Schafer not elevating Ben Berard when Angello left is a surprise.

So, if I'm reading this right:

F (15)

Sr Starrett
Sr Vanderlaan

Jr Bauld
Jr Malott
Jr Murphy

So Barron
So Betts
So Donaldson
So Locke
So Mullin

Fr Andreev
Fr Brakel
Fr Bramwell
Fr Motley
Fr Regush

D (10)

Sr Bliss (spoiler: this is never going to happen but OK, loyalty)
Sr McCrea
Sr Nuttle
Sr Smith

Jr Kaldis

So Cairns
So Green
So Haiskenen

Fr Leahy
Fr Song

G (3)

So Galajda
So McGrath
Fr McDonald

I noticed there are no Americans in this year's class; I wonder when was the last time that occurred. In recent years the classes have been fairly balanced between Americans and Canadians, with the occasional European tossed in.

scoop85
I noticed there are no Americans in this year's class; I wonder when was the last time that occurred. In recent years the classes have been fairly balanced between Americans and Canadians, with the occasional European tossed in.

Mike is stocking up before there's a second border wall built.

Canada has treated us very unfairly.

scoop85
I noticed there are no Americans in this year's class; I wonder when was the last time that occurred.

1984-85.

scoop85
I noticed there are no Americans in this year's class; I wonder when was the last time that occurred. In recent years the classes have been fairly balanced between Americans and Canadians, with the occasional European tossed in.

weird that there are three players from the ushl but none are american

Late to this thread but clearly an example of unfair trade by the Chinese.

Some early season stats for a few of our recruits:

Ben Berard from Powell River in the BCHL has 11 points in 7 games on 6 goals and 5 assists. He looks like he’ll be a productive player as soon as he hits campus next fall.

Ben and Zach Tupker of Carleton Place in the CCHL have 9 and 11 points respectively in 10 games. Last season they both averaged about than .5 points per game, so they’ve clearly picked it up with another year under their belts.

The guys in the USHL are just getting started with their seasons, although Jack O’Leary of Cedar Rapids has 1 goal in his 1st 2 games.