Opponents News 2: Hockey's the Reason for the Season

Beeeej
Anybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at [clarksonathletics.com] ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.

I had it up, starting at about a minute into the OT. The picture quality was horrendous. I thought it could be an issue on my end, but then my daughter connected and the feed was terrible for her too.

Beeeej

Beeeej
Anybody able to get Clarkson's streaming video to work at [clarksonathletics.com] ? They're in OT with Brown, 2-2.

Never mind - 2-2 tie, OT final. Wow.

Crazy result the night after Brown handed SLU their first conference win of the season.

Cornell's alone at the top of the ECAC!

BigRedHockeyFan
Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.

[www.youtube.com]

Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, [www.foxsportsgo.com]

ugarte

BigRedHockeyFan
Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.

[www.youtube.com]

Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, [www.foxsportsgo.com]

Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.

Beeeej

ugarte

BigRedHockeyFan
Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.

[www.youtube.com]

Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, [www.foxsportsgo.com]

Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.

i think if you have FS1 you can watch any of the regional stuff online. At least I can.

ugarte

Beeeej

ugarte

BigRedHockeyFan
Notre Dame vs. Minnesota, full game, 200 x 100 sheet.

[www.youtube.com]

Notre Dame is up 3-1 in the third. If you want to watch, [www.foxsportsgo.com]

Trying, but pretty sure you can't watch it unless you also already get that channel in your lineup on cable or FiOS.

i think if you have FS1 you can watch any of the regional stuff online. At least I can.

Turns out you're correct, so I can stream it on my laptop, but not on the FS Go app on my iPhone for some reason, and mirroring to the AppleTV from the laptop sucks. The game's essentially over anyway, and Notre Dame's about to retake the lead in PWR by virtue of their higher RPI.

Jim Hyla
Princeton Announces it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17

The Princeton men's hockey program is pleased to announce it will hold Champions Weekend on Feb. 17 to honor the championship teams of 1998 and 2008.

A ceremonial puck drop will be held with Princeton hockey alums and Stanley Cup champions George Parros '03 and Kevin Westgarth '07.

Neither of whom were on the championship teams.

Really? For an ECAC title?

Notre Dame's win over Minnesota puts them back up to #1 and drops us to #2. And St. Cloud is nipping at our heels.

Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.

Can't even get a free room.

Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.

Al DeFlorio

Jeff Hopkins '82
Once again we're the only team in the PWR with no Quality Inn bonus points.

Can't even get a free room.

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(that's a thumbs up)

The only thing separating an old-school forum like this form newer social media is a Like button.

If I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs. Since the theoretical maximum league points by the 9th place team is 22 (in an absurd situation where there's a 12-way tie at 22 points), by passing that mark against Harvard we guaranteed at least 8th place. Realistically there's probably a way to model out the point at which everyone ending with a 22 point tie becomes no longer possible (example, if St Lawrence won all of their remaining games to get to 22 points that means others would have to lose, and Princeton and Quinnipiac still have to play RPI again, so it's conceivable that would make the maximum achievable points by the 9th place team less than 22 at this point). So maybe we clinched home ice against Colgate. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that if we win out next weekend against Union and RPI and Colgate and Dartmouth both wind up with 2 points or fewer, then we'd clinch a first week bye.

Not to jinx it or anything.

Man I have too much time on my hands.

brealy_myers
If I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs.

Correct if you mean we have secured a home playoff series. Obviously we could still play a road QF series. Our magic number for clinching a 1R bye is 3.

Trotsky

brealy_myers
If I'm not mistaken we recently clinched home ice advantage in the playoffs.

Correct if you mean we have secured a home playoff series. Obviously we could still play a road QF series. Our magic number for clinching a 1R bye is 3.

And that's the one that really matters.

Al DeFlorio
Y and H put 53 and 51 shots on goal tonight. Neither scored.

During the game.

Beeeej
Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.

Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.

Iceberg

Beeeej
Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.

Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.

I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."

dbilmes

Iceberg

Beeeej
Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.

Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.

I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."

For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both. But I do think we match up better against Princeton, especially at Lynah where we'd have the last change and can put out the best personnel to neutralize Princeton's strong top line.

scoop85
For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.

That would be a neat trick!

The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.

andyw2100

scoop85
For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.

That would be a neat trick!

The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.

andyw2100

scoop85
For whatever reason we've had trouble scoring on Q this year -- 3 goals in 2 games. Of course we've only given up 2 ourselves in those games and won both.

That would be a neat trick!

The scores were 2-1 and 1-0, so while we did score only three goals, Quinnipiac only scored one.

Q must have had one disallowed.

dbilmes

Iceberg

Beeeej
Just in case anybody was wondering, Tuesday night's travel partner tilt featuring Princeton at Quinnipiac will not affect our PWR position regardless of the result.

Princeton winds up winning the game in a battle of two of the conference's bottom feeders. However, that last first-round home seed is very much up for grabs. The current 8th place team is Brown since they have the tiebreaker over Princeton, but each team still has a game against each other in Providence. Only 3 points separate 8th from 11th right now.

I decided to scout some of our potential playoff opponents by going to last night's game. Quinnipiac looked horrible, especially on defense, giving up 20 SOG in the first period. Princeton was 3-for-3 on the power-play. Princeton's first line is excellent, but the rest of the team is nothing special. Even so, I'd rather play Princeton then Q if it came to that in the postseason. In any case, Pecknold was not happy after the game. The rink was half full, and the student section mostly empty except for the pep band. I overheard one fan commenting on the way out, "The hockey games aren't like they used to be."

That game vs. Princeton was atypical in that Q was outshot. On the season as a whole Q has been throwing a ton of pucks on net but just not scoring. Given how good their possession metrics are I think they're getting very unlucky and I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs.

BearLover
That game vs. Princeton was atypical in that Q was outshot. On the season as a whole Q has been throwing a ton of pucks on net but just not scoring. Given how good their possession metrics are I think they're getting very unlucky and I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs.

Their goaltending hasn't panned out either.

Guess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...

[www.bbc.com]

gonyr
Guess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...

[www.bbc.com]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Beeeej

gonyr
Guess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...

[www.bbc.com]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

At least NHS covers the syphilis.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Trotsky

Beeeej

gonyr
Guess this fits under opponent's news, even though it's not a current player ...

[www.bbc.com]

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

At least NHS covers the syphilis.

Does that make it a pre-medicated act?

Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

Q sounds like a dangerous team. They've got terrible goaltending numbers and one of the worst shooting percentages in the NCAA to go along with it, but they're among the best on close possession metrics. I've heard really mixed reviews of their play from people on this board, so I suspect they're inconsistent. All of that adds up to upset potential for me - a couple of good decent games from their goaltender, a change in their shooting fortunes, or just their Dr. Jekyll team showing up could really ruin somebody's weekend in a league playoff series.

Tom Lento
they're among the best on close possession metrics.

Linky? Here or someplace else.

Trotsky

Tom Lento
they're among the best on close possession metrics.

Linky? Here or someplace else.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

If you sort by CF% in the "close" section you'll see Q in third. Even strength is probably a little more robust but it's the same basic story as far as Q is concerned. Fenwick shows the same general ranking.

Fun fact: the ECAC has 6 of the bottom 7 teams in the NCAA in shooting percentage - RPI, Q, Colgate, Dartmouth, Yale, and Brown. Of those, Yale and Q are near the top in terms of possession - better than Cornell, although Yale's schedule strength is even worse than Cornell's.

If shooting percentage really is a regression to the mean stat in college hockey I'd expect the ECAC to be stronger next season on that basis alone. Of course, it might also just be that those teams all have shot-happy home scorekeepers.

Beeeej

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).

and now there's another example

ugarte

Beeeej

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).

and now there's another example

We're only down to #3, though. So far.

Beeeej

ugarte

Beeeej

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).

and now there's another example

We're only down to #3, though. So far.

Down to #4 with Denver's win.

Beeeej

Beeeej

ugarte

Beeeej

Iceberg
Q didn't look very good on Tuesday but they were good enough to wallop Clarkson tonight apparently.

And provided a cautionary tale on what happens when a weaker team gets the better of a team near the top of the PWR in even a single game. Clarkson's down from #4 to #7 (while Quinnipiac's rise from #37 to #34 certainly doesn't help as much as Clarkson's slip hurts).

and now there's another example

We're only down to #3, though. So far.

Down to #4 with Denver's win.

USCHO is showing us tied in comparisons with Denver but ahead on RPI; CHN has us in 4th.

I like #4. Gets us a top seed and avoids the target of #1 overall. The perfect sleeper ranking!!1!

The Beanpot starts today at 5 PM with BC/Northeastern and then BU/Harvard later. The best case scenario would probably be BU or Harvard winning against Northeastern in the final.

Iceberg
The Beanpot starts today at 5 PM with BU/Harvard. That game probably won't do much for the pairwise, but I imagine if either team wins the championship that would provide a boost. Best scenario I would imagine is either one of them facing Northeastern in the final and winning.

From my tweaking, it looks like a Harvard victory over either Northeastern or BC in the final puts us back up to #3 in the PWR - and as far as I can tell, no other result lifts us out of #4, but I'm not 100% sure I tried all the combos.

Hilarious Beanpot moment: halfway through the 2nd period announcers are reading a commercial deploring baldness and promoting a hair replacement product while the camera pans over to Ted Donato's gleaming pate.

The Bu Harvard beanpot game is a super entertaining up and down track meet heading into the second overtime right now. If you are up and have access to 5he game, definitely time in. NESN 851 IN boston.

Also, currently back to 3 in the pwr after northeastern beat bc in the flat game.

BU beats Harvard.

If I understand PWR correctly, it would have been more helpful to us had Harvard won because we beat them twice but BU only once.

Still, it feels good whenever Harvard loses. It also feels good when BU loses, but this is based on a rivalry that peaked about 50 years ago.

Since we often don't care who wins BU/Harvard matchup, it's one in which we often can't lose.

Swampy
BU beats Harvard.

If I understand PWR correctly, it would have been more helpful to us had Harvard won because we beat them twice but BU only once.

Still, it feels good whenever Harvard loses. It also feels good when BU loses, but this is based on a rivalry that peaked about 50 years ago.

Since we often don't care who wins BU/Harvard matchup, it's one in which we often can't lose.

I wasn't watching the numbers live, but if Northeastern's win put us in #3, BU's win dropped us back down to #4. And what should be the best result for us next Monday, Harvard and BU wins, doesn't do enough to put us back up to #3 on its own.

Plenty of other games between now and then, though, including a couple of important ones for us. So just win.

RichH
This will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.

And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU.

Jim Hyla

RichH
This will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.

And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU.

"Investigation Finds St. Lawrence Winning Again"

"And the answer is, It's no big deal at SLU."

It's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.

That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.

Alabama Huntsville almost took down Minn-State last night. Could have been a pairwise plus. They get another chance tonight.

[www.youtube.com]

BigRedHockeyFan

It's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.

That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.

SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.

ugarte

BigRedHockeyFan

It's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.

That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.

SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.

“Pasting” Colgate indeed

scoop85

ugarte

BigRedHockeyFan

It's sad that their program kind of fell apart this year.

That said, I hope Cornell wins tonight.

SLU has had a good couple of weeks, sweeping the Y/B weekend and pasting Colgate last night 5-2. I hope last week's RPI game was instructive.

“Pasting” Colgate indeed

i would climb the highest mountain to speak to the most powerful wizard to make a wish to take that back

Tie for second in the league now between Clarkson and Union.

Clarkson blows a 2 goal lead with 10 to play and ties Colgate 4-4, so we are now up 4 with 4 to play.

Ohio State is blowing out Notre Dame - now 5-1.

Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.

scoop85
Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.

Did it make the real OT rule or was it one of those dumb tourney tie breakers?

Edit: 02:43 of OT. Good.

Interesting how after PWR has tracked RPI almost exactly since December, now 2 and 3 are inverted.

scoop85
Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.

Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.

Northeastern has a scary top line. They're the kind of team that can make either make a run or fizzle out in their first big game (almost like Union last year).

I saw NE play once live.. they have really good speed on the top line, they play almost no solid D on the backend, if you can get the puck in deep. but they also play keep away at times on the offensive end..

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85
Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.

Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.

2018 Beanpot final: Northeastern 5, BU 2. First time in 30 years, 5th title in 66 years for Northeastern. [www.uscho.com]

billhoward

Jeff Hopkins '82

scoop85
Harvard beat BC 5-4 in OT in the Beanpot consy, which I imagine will be helpful for our PWR. Now we hope BU beats Northeastern in the championship game for a further boost.

Not likely. NU is up 4-1 after 2.

2018 Beanpot final: Northeastern 5, BU 2. First time in 30 years, 5th title in 66 years for Northeastern. [www.uscho.com]

And we're back up to 3rd in the pairwise.

It wasn't the Sucks win. We were still 4th after that. Maybe Air Force's loss today? IDK.

Clarkson last nine games: 1-4-4

St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

Beeeej

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

She moves in mysterious ways.

Trotsky

Beeeej

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

She moves in mysterious ways.

It's alright. It's alright.

And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Beeeej

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

She moves in mysterious ways.

It's alright. It's alright.

And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.

UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.

BigRedHockeyFan
Clarkson last nine games: 1-4-4

Daredevilcu, who visits here occasionally, posted an eye catching stat on the Clarkson board for their goalie:

“First 22 games of the season - 28 goals allowed, 1.27 gaa

Last 9 games - 27 goals allowed, 3.00 gaa”

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Beeeej

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

She moves in mysterious ways.

It's alright. It's alright.

And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.

UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.

No. The issue is that tonight's Denver result isn't on yet. If Denver wins tonight, the pwr looks like this:

1. St cloud,
2. Denver.
3 notre dame
4. Cornell

abmarks

Swampy

Jeff Hopkins '82

Trotsky

Beeeej

Beeeej

Jeff Hopkins '82
St.Cloud and Western tied 5-5.

Michigan leading Notre Dame 4-2 halfway through the third.

Both games now final with those scores.

...and bizarrely, with the RPI as tiebreak, CHN has us moving up to #3 but Notre Dame up to #2, with Denver sliding to #4.

She moves in mysterious ways.

It's alright. It's alright.

And N.Dakota drops to 14. This is getting interesting.

UConn beating BU may have something to do with our standing in the pairwise.

No. The issue is that tonight's Denver result isn't on yet. If Denver wins tonight, the pwr looks like this:

1. St cloud,
2. Denver.
3 notre dame
4. Cornell

Yes, and unfortunately DU 5 > CC 1

Clarkson loses again, but this time they give up 5 goals. They'll host P and Q next weekend but at the rate they're going they might play themselves right out of a NCAA bid.

Iceberg
Clarkson loses again, but this time they give up 5 goals. They'll host P and Q next weekend but at the rate they're going they might play themselves right out of a NCAA bid.

Clarkson has gone 1-5-4 since a January 16 College Hockey News article headlined "Clarkson is Here to Stay."

Clarkson SUCKS. hope we get them in LP semis and not Harvard. Are they in danger in blowing an at large bid if they keep this up?

CU2007
Clarkson SUCKS. hope we get them in LP semis and not Harvard. Are they in danger in blowing an at large bid if they keep this up?

So far, no. But if the trend continues, maybe.

Denver loses to Colorado College 1-0, and they're down to 5th, Cornell up to 3rd, Minnesota State - Mankato up to 4th.

next weekend is key, wins there against a hot Union team and we cant get more than 2 more losses and probably stay around top 8 and a good seed.. get to the semis and we may stay a top 4 seed

Win Lake Placid and let the NC$$ take care of itself.

No question game(s) of the week coming up will be the pair of games Denver at St Cloud.

Without doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.

Robb
Without doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.

I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.

Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.

Dafatone

Robb
Without doing the math, I assume it's best if one of them sweeps - I suspect they both stay above us with a split.

I think our best bet is if St. Cloud sweeps. If the goal is to avoid the Sioux Falls regional (and assuming we get a 1 seed), we want there to be a 1 seed below us and not in North Dakota's conference. Minnesota State, Ohio State, and Notre Dame would all fit that bill.

Some big assumptions there, and who knows how it will shake out, but we're probably better off if St Cloud stays on top.

I ran the script on chn and added only possible results for the two st cloud v Denver games.

If st cloud sweeps:

1 St. Cloud State 59 .6121
2 Notre Dame 57 .5908
3 Cornell 57 .5847
4 Minnesota State 56 .5774
5 Denver 56 .5703
6 Ohio State

If they split:
1 St. Cloud State 59 .6014
2 Notre Dame 57 .5909
3 Cornell 57 .5847
4 Denver 57 .5809
5 Minnesota State 55 .5769
6 Ohio State

Denver sweep;
1 Denver 59 .5907
2 Notre Dame 58 .5913
3 St. Cloud State 57 .5908
4 Cornell 56 .5848
5 Minnesota State 5765
6 Ohio State

i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

Notre Dame just lost to Michigan, 1-0. Pairwise not updated yet, but I'm guessing we may be up to second.

Michigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Jim Hyla
Michigan beats Notre Dame 1-0 to sweep the weekend. Await PWR

Still in 3rd. Lose to Notre Dame in RPI .5848 to .5871.

toddlose

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

scoop85

toddlose

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

For as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.

scoop85

toddlose

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

toddlose

scoop85

toddlose

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.

Dafatone

toddlose

scoop85

toddlose

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

That’s the help of a strong ooc sos (Minnesota, penn state, western Michigan) compared to just uah, niagara and Canisius.

Left out BU, which while not vintage, is still a respectable opponent this year.

Wow. I did miss that.

And Miami, who hasn't been great this year, but is usually a pretty solid team.

I knew that. Just saying, without looking at pairwise, Clarkson has 3 ooc opponents better than any one of ours.

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.

Trotsky

ugarte
i'm amazed that clarkson hasn't fallen out of the top 10 with the way they've cratered

Speaking of cratering, Colgate, who was PWR 19 just a month ago and on the cusp of the tourney, is now 37.

And has played their last 4 games with senior Racine in goal as Point is injured.

Dafatone

For as terrible as the ECAC has been, Hockey East has been even worse, at least in terms of comparing top teams.

The funny thing about Hockey East is that the team likely to finish 1st in the conference--BC--hasn't beaten a single OOC opponent. It's a good thing that the CC Rule doesn't exist anymore. The thought that at one time a team could theoretically get into the NCAA's by winning its conference is hilarious given this situation.

You know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?

Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.

Not that I suspect anyone was worried, but there is no set of results for tonight's two games (one AH, one HE) that would affect Cornell's spot in the PWR more than the tiniest insignificant amount.

Dafatone
You know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?

Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.

Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.

Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.

Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.

Trotsky

Dafatone
You know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?

Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.

Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.

Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.

Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.

Looks like an advertisement to stay clear of the "Big Red Machine".

marty

Trotsky

Dafatone
You know what's not helping our strength of schedule a ton?

Since starting out 9-4-1, Niagara has gone 2-14-2.

Except for BU, all our NC opponents let us down.

Niagara. 6-3-1 before our game. 5-17-1 since.
Canisius. 10-5-1 before. 5-9-1 since.
Miami (2x). 6-6-2 before. 3-10-1 since.
UAH (2x). 1-3-0 before. 9-15-2 since.
BU. 6-7-1 before. 10-5-2 since.

Net: 26-43-5 .385 before. 44-81-7 .360 after.

Looks like an advertisement to stay clear of the "Big Red Machine".

It also shows we played a really, really shitty schedule this year.