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Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18

Posted by Jim Hyla 
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Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 07:39PM

Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

FIRST TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Ryan Donato, Harvard
Forward Sheldon Rempal, Clarkson
Forward Max Véronneau, Princeton
Defense Adam Fox, Harvard
Defense Kelly Summers, Clarkson
Goaltender Matthew Galajda, Cornell

SECOND TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Anthony Angello, Cornell
Forward Ryan Kuffner, Princeton
Forward Joe Snively, Yale
Defense Terrance Amorosa, Clarkson
Defense Chase Priskie, Quinnipiac
Goaltender Colton Point, Colgate

THIRD TEAM ALL-LEAGUE
Forward Ryan Scarfo, Union
Forward Nico Sturm, Clarkson
Forward Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense Yanni Kaldis, Cornell
Defense Josh Teves, Princeton
Goaltender Jake Kielly, Clarkson
Jake Kupsky, Union

ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Forward Jack Badini, Harvard
Forward Jack Jacome, Clarkson
Forward Odeen Tufto, Quinnipiac
Defense Nick Austin, Colgate
Defense Reilly Walsh, Harvard
Goaltender Matthew Galajda, Cornell


A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:00PM

scoop85
Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:12PM

Jim Hyla
scoop85
Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It’s nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:17PM

scoop85
Jim Hyla
scoop85
Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It’s nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

I think that's an interesting pattern to observe, but it's still conclusory. Has anybody also checked, say, a list of all ECAC defensemen by +/- against these picks? Or number of blocked shots?

 
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Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:24PM

Beeeej
scoop85
Jim Hyla
scoop85
Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It’s nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

I think that's an interesting pattern to observe, but it's still conclusory. Has anybody also checked, say, a list of all ECAC defensemen by +/- against these picks? Or number of blocked shots?

Yeah the first in +/- list is Amorosa, at #14. McCrea is third and we have 5/13 before Amorosa.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:26PM

Jim Hyla
Beeeej
scoop85
Jim Hyla
scoop85
Jim Hyla
ECAC Hockey Announces All-League Teams

A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.


Right you are. Hard to conceive of any other ECAC champion that has had such sparse representation on the all-league teams.

Now we just need to win in LP.

But the thing that really annoys me is having Alec McCrea left off. I mean he's the "Best Defensive Defenseman" and can't make the team, even third team!!!!!!!!

5 of them are 5 out of top 6 d'men in points. Only Kaldis disturbed it.

I guess that signals how they decide.

It’s nuts that the defensemen are judged primarily on their offensive output, as shown by the selections.

I think that's an interesting pattern to observe, but it's still conclusory. Has anybody also checked, say, a list of all ECAC defensemen by +/- against these picks? Or number of blocked shots?

Yeah the first in +/- list is Amorosa, at #14. McCrea is third and we have 5/13 before Amorosa.

Well, okay, then.

 
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Beeeej, Esq.
Tundra British Columbia Headhunters Circus
Tucson or Bust!

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Dafatone (---.sub-174-219-136.myvzw.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 08:34PM

Basing all-conference defensemen on points isn't great, but I do think defense can be hard to measure beyond the eye test. Plus/minus and blocked shots both help, but they only go so far. Points is a hard and fast stat, so I can see the appeal. Plus, high scoring defensemen tend to be star players.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 13, 2018 09:06PM

Dafatone
Basing all-conference defensemen on points isn't great, but I do think defense can be hard to measure beyond the eye test. Plus/minus and blocked shots both help, but they only go so far. Points is a hard and fast stat, so I can see the appeal. Plus, high scoring defensemen tend to be star players.

Yeah, but.................leaving off your pick for "Best Defensive Defenseman" tells a lot. If you can pick that, you ought to be able to decide if he belongs on All-ECAC team.

They said no, but I'm glad he's on our team.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 13, 2018 09:07PM

Dafatone
Basing all-conference defensemen on points isn't great, but I do think defense can be hard to measure beyond the eye test. Plus/minus and blocked shots both help, but they only go so far.
Maybe, but somehow they were able to decide on a "best defensive defenseman."

 
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Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Swampy (---.ri.ri.cox.net)
Date: March 14, 2018 12:29AM

Dafatone
Basing all-conference defensemen on points isn't great, but I do think defense can be hard to measure beyond the eye test. Plus/minus and blocked shots both help, but they only go so far. Points is a hard and fast stat, so I can see the appeal. Plus, high scoring defensemen tend to be star players.

Maybe what you can do is to pick your top offensive forwards first. Then, for each of your candidate defensemen, see how many points your stud forwards scored when they played against each other.

True, such an isolated +/- is partly a measure of the respective teams rather than the individuals involved, but that's a necessary problem with all individual awards in a team sport.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 14, 2018 12:47AM

surprised that neither mccrea or smith made it onto any of the teams

 
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Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 14, 2018 08:32AM

ugarte
surprised that neither mccrea or smith made it onto any of the teams

But at least USCHO headlined McCrea when they announed the ECAC awards.cheer

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 14, 2018 08:53AM

Jim Hyla
A decidedly non-Cornell team. Maybe because we're a team and not individuals.

No real argument here. Vanderlaan is at least a 3rd teamer to me. I wish Smith got more recognition. Donaldson in my mind deserves the rookie team but that's probably #b31b1b glasses.

Note that 2nd place (and dead!) Union has even less representation than we.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2018 08:55AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: margolism (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: March 14, 2018 12:30PM

Galajda named ECAC goaltender of the year.

I would have to imagine that this would remove Colton Point out of the running for ECAC player of the year. One would think.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: March 14, 2018 12:38PM

margolism
Galajda named ECAC goaltender of the year.

I would have to imagine that this would remove Colton Point out of the running for ECAC player of the year. One would think.

It's the Dryden Award. I'm all for using that name. Frankly, I think the national goaltender award should also carry that name.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 14, 2018 12:47PM

margolism
Galajda named ECAC goaltender of the year.

I would have to imagine that this would remove Colton Point out of the running for ECAC player of the year. One would think.
You never know. They do some pretty illogical shit.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 14, 2018 01:07PM

 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 15, 2018 12:37PM

Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.37.26.69.virtela.net)
Date: March 15, 2018 02:11PM


Pretty much justified.

The good news is he'll be bald like his daddy in 15 years.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: March 22, 2018 02:58PM

Swampy

The headline says semifinalist, but the list says finalist. Never look a gift horse in the mouth. deadhorse

Well, NOW he's a finalist, although the list only went from 10 to 5 candidates.

[cornellbigred.com]
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 27, 2018 06:19PM

Schafer Named Finalist for Spencer Penrose Award

Not that it's a surprise, since every conference COTY is automatically a finalist.

And yes I posted this same thing on another thread. Subtract it from my total, if you must.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: KenP (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 29, 2018 07:06AM

-1
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 29, 2018 07:10AM

Matt Galajda is CHN's All-Rookie Goaltender.

But Colton Point gets the Second Team spot.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: KenP (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 29, 2018 07:11AM

+1
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: March 29, 2018 07:16AM

KenP
+1

So it all evens out.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: KenP (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 30, 2018 06:47AM

Jim Hyla
KenP
+1

So it all evens out.
in the end it always does.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: April 04, 2018 12:54PM

Here's a CHN commentary about how goalies are often overlooked for Hobey Baker consideration. It mentions Galajda.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 04, 2018 01:22PM

RichH
Here's a CHN commentary about how goalies are often overlooked for Hobey Baker consideration. It mentions Galajda.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
That's a spectacularly stupid article, but I've never understood the point of the Richter. They should just ditch the award entirely.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Will (---.biotech.cornell.edu)
Date: April 04, 2018 02:01PM

Jim Hyla
Schafer Named Finalist for Spencer Penrose Award

Not that it's a surprise, since every conference COTY is automatically a finalist.

And yes I posted this same thing on another thread. Subtract it from my total, if you must.

In case anyone was wondering or didn't already see, Schafer lost out to Notre Dame coach Jeff Jackson: [www.uscho.com]

 
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Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net)
Date: April 04, 2018 04:51PM

Trotsky
RichH
Here's a CHN commentary about how goalies are often overlooked for Hobey Baker consideration. It mentions Galajda.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
That's a spectacularly stupid article, but I've never understood the point of the Richter. They should just ditch the award entirely.
Probably due to budget issues, but some of these CHN articles look like they were posted as written without any amount of editing. Not as blatant as the stuff on USCHO though.

(Before adamw or anyone reads this the wrong way, I spend a ton of time on CHN, especially the stats page, and love how great a resource it is.)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2018 07:18PM by BearLover.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 05, 2018 03:12PM

BearLover
Trotsky
RichH
Here's a CHN commentary about how goalies are often overlooked for Hobey Baker consideration. It mentions Galajda.

[www.collegehockeynews.com]
That's a spectacularly stupid article, but I've never understood the point of the Richter. They should just ditch the award entirely.
Probably due to budget issues, but some of these CHN articles look like they were posted as written without any amount of editing. Not as blatant as the stuff on USCHO though.

(Before adamw or anyone reads this the wrong way, I spend a ton of time on CHN, especially the stats page, and love how great a resource it is.)
There are very big sites, 10X, 100X the size of CHN or the lax sites, that make do with little or no editing. Every site is cost-conscious. Online advertising just doesn't match print advertising.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrk.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 05, 2018 03:14PM

Will
Jim Hyla
Schafer Named Finalist for Spencer Penrose Award

Not that it's a surprise, since every conference COTY is automatically a finalist.

And yes I posted this same thing on another thread. Subtract it from my total, if you must.

In case anyone was wondering or didn't already see, Schafer lost out to Notre Dame coach Jeff Jackson: [www.uscho.com]
USCHO
This is [Jackson's] fourth trip to the Frozen Four with Notre Dame and second in a row.

The runner-up for the award was Ohio State’s Steve Rohlik, who also led the Buckeyes to the Frozen Four.
Plus the Golden Domers won the women's basketball tournament. The rich get richer.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (---.public.wayport.net)
Date: April 06, 2018 06:16PM

Last one for the season:

Galajda gets Eastern 1st Team All-American. First CU freshman. Only Eastern AA outside the Boston area.

[cornellbigred.com]

The ECAC dominates the 2nd team.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 06, 2018 06:41PM

Richter will be announced at about 8:30.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: RichH (73.114.18.---)
Date: April 06, 2018 08:38PM

Trotsky
Richter will be announced at about 8:30.

Cale Morris won it.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 06, 2018 10:49PM

Gaudette won the Hobey.
 
Re: Men's and Women's Awards 2017-18
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: April 11, 2018 12:43PM

Matthew Galajda USCHO Second Team

Since only 1 other freshman made their top 3 teams, I think he has a reasonable chance of ROTY.

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2018 12:47PM by Jim Hyla.
 
Men's Banquet / Awards
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Date: April 15, 2018 10:48AM

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