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Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: April 26, 2017 07:36AM

How 'bout this: We leave, form a new conference with us, RPI, Miami, BU, Wisconsin, and Sacred Heart.

We could call it the Big, Red Hockey Conference (note the comma). whistle
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: upprdeck (---.fs.cornell.edu)
Date: April 26, 2017 10:27AM

maybe we should be more people to donate money so that the Hockey team had a recruiting budget so they could go get the kids they need?
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 12:54PM

Al DeFlorio
BearLover
Still waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
You've told us this at least 500 times. I think that's 499 times too many.
One time for every time someone on here has said the opposite. bang
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: April 26, 2017 02:32PM

BearLover
Still waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...

When you're on the open water, you can't really tell that your boat is up.

I'll make a guess that Cornell would not have received its at-large bid without having strong teams in our conference. All of our OOC opponents finished with a record below .500, and we went 5-2 in those games. The highest-ranked team we played on our OOC schedule finished at #30. **They did not make the tournament because of OOC opponents.** They made the tournament because they were able to play 15 games vs. teams in the top 25, ALL IN-LEAGUE, and they came out of it with a winning record in those games. That's why the at-large bid was in play at all, and if they were in a AHA-level league, they're on the outside of the at-large bubble.

That has always been my argument, and I don't understand how this isn't apparent to you, even after a season like this.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/26/2017 02:36PM by RichH.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: April 26, 2017 04:04PM

RichH
BearLover
Still waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...

When you're on the open water, you can't really tell that your boat is up.

I'll make a guess that Cornell would not have received its at-large bid without having strong teams in our conference. All of our OOC opponents finished with a record below .500, and we went 5-2 in those games. The highest-ranked team we played on our OOC schedule finished at #30. **They did not make the tournament because of OOC opponents.** They made the tournament because they were able to play 15 games vs. teams in the top 25, ALL IN-LEAGUE, and they came out of it with a winning record in those games. That's why the at-large bid was in play at all, and if they were in a AHA-level league, they're on the outside of the at-large bubble.

That has always been my argument, and I don't understand how this isn't apparent to you, even after a season like this.
Our league wasn't particularly great this year--we had three of the worst teams in the country. Going like 20-7-4 overall was what got us into the tournament, not going slightly over .500 vs. the top-25. But that's beside the point, because all of this is priced into the PWR--the same PWR that put us into the NCAAs in, for instance, 2002 and 2006, when our conference stunk (also see in 1996/1997, where we probably never could have won our tournament had we been forced to face the Harvards and Yales of today). My point remains that Cornell wins the ECAC less, makes the NCAA less, and gets the same or worse recruits than it did when the ECAC stunk. We got crushed in our NCAA game--a worse performance in the tournament than we ever had when the conference was bad. OTOH, we're coming off a good year and the future looks relatively bright. Anyway, it's my fault for bringing this up again. **]
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: April 27, 2017 12:55PM

A step up from raping kids, anyway. Bâby steps.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 28, 2017 02:38PM

Trotsky
A step up from raping kids, anyway. Bâby steps.
Special kind of Penn State skills competition for distance and accuracy. I'm seeing a special Nittany Lion punchline - Ugarte, work with me here - that pulls a multiple pun on 'golden showers'
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Swampy (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: April 29, 2017 02:19PM

billhoward
Trotsky
A step up from raping kids, anyway. Bâby steps.
Special kind of Penn State skills competition for distance and accuracy. I'm seeing a special Nittany Lion punchline - Ugarte, work with me here - that pulls a multiple pun on 'golden showers'

Sounds like the work of the left-handed Klodover Mohel.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 29, 2017 04:58PM

No one has posted this recent item about what happened in Schenectady.whistle
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: May 03, 2017 01:27PM

I'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident at Lynah.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Roy 82 (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: May 03, 2017 05:32PM

Trotsky
I'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident at Lynah.

Sounds like a sticky situation. :-D

....I'll be here all week folks. Please tip your waitperson.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.cws.sco.cisco.com)
Date: May 04, 2017 04:09PM

Roy 82
Trotsky
I'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident at Lynah.

Sounds like a sticky situation. :-D

....I'll be here all week folks. Please tip your waitperson.

This is a stick up!wank
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: May 05, 2017 07:04AM

Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".

Nice read.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2017 12:02PM

Jim Hyla
Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".

Nice read.

I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.

It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: May 08, 2017 06:58PM

ursusminor
Jim Hyla
Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".

Nice read.

I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.

It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.

Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'

But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 09, 2017 12:10AM

Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Jim Hyla
Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".

Nice read.

I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.

It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.

Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'

But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.

I agree. Maybe I should have said "If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it wasn't a completely asinine idea." :-)
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: May 12, 2017 05:50AM

ursusminor
Jim Hyla
ursusminor
Jim Hyla
Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".

Nice read.

I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.

It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.

Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'

But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.

I agree. Maybe I should have said "If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it wasn't a completely asinine idea." :-)
5-12-17 Troy Record
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 08:56AM

CHN has a very nice feature: coaching changes going back to the beginning of the NC$$ era, 1948.

You too can now win a bar bet: who was the coach who replaced God when he left RPI for Cornell?

Answer: Rube Bjorkman. The fuck is Rube Bjorkman?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/16/2017 08:58AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 10:25AM

WHO the fuck is he? Well, I just learned he's the only North Dakota coach to never win a title or make the tournament in the modern era. Minnesota grad. Hmmm.

[www.uscho.com]
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 11:22AM

RichH
WHO the fuck is he? Well, I just learned he's the only North Dakota coach to never win a title or make the tournament in the modern era. Minnesota grad. Hmmm.

[www.uscho.com]

He's no Cliff (Fido) Purpur, that's for sure.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 01:29PM

Note the USCHO coaching history for North Dakota shows the team nickname at the time, not as it stands now. Including years when it officially had none. [www.uscho.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/16/2017 01:30PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 01:55PM

billhoward
Note the USCHO coaching history for North Dakota shows the team nickname at the time, not as it stands now. Including years when it officially had none. [www.uscho.com]

I also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 02:42PM

Trotsky
CHN has a very nice feature: coaching changes going back to the beginning of the NC$$ era, 1948.

You too can now win a bar bet: who was the coach who replaced God when he left RPI for Cornell?

Answer: Rube Bjorkman. The fuck is Rube Bjorkman?

Snarl! Mr. Carpetbagger himself.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 16, 2017 03:48PM

RichH
I also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.

I'm shocked it's not the other way. Not only because it's a GREAT sweater, but for the general Middle Finger attitude of the Sioux fanbase.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: June 16, 2017 05:09PM

Trotsky
RichH
I also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.

I'm shocked it's not the other way. Not only because it's a GREAT sweater, but for the general Middle Finger attitude of the Sioux fanbase.

Plus the inevitable "collector's item" caché.

 
___________________________
Beeeej, Esq.
Tundra British Columbia Headhunters Circus
Tucson or Bust!

"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 20, 2017 10:36AM

Andrew Tavener has transfered from Q to ASU.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: June 21, 2017 07:52PM

Re: Opponents News
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.20.---)
Date: June 22, 2017 01:56PM

Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 22, 2017 03:44PM

IMHO, Rodriguez is the only one of those four who will be a loss, and he hardly produced in two years. Incoming freshman Linden Marshall on paper is better than Hackett, and the other two (McBain and Rappaport) did not play at all.

As to Nanne, the injuries severely limited him, and he probably decided that he would be better off as a small-e engineer than being forever compared to his grandfather.

Melanson's departure after getting a degree in the three years was set in motion by disagreement as to how he was used by Seth Appert. When he got an offer from BU it must have seemed better than RPI even with a new coach at RPI. I suspect that he will fit in at BU.

Supposedly Bradley Bell has also left. He also had trouble finding a place in the lineup, either as a defenseman or a forward.

Without a Peer post on RPI's team next season. BTW, it looks like Tom won't be posting his Know Your Enemy articles this offseason.
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Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 09:43AM

Is Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 23, 2017 03:47PM

Trotsky
Is Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.

It hasn't been revealed, but reading between the lines, it doesn't appear to have been academic issues.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: June 23, 2017 09:44PM

ursusminor
Trotsky
Is Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.

It hasn't been revealed, but reading between the lines, it doesn't appear to have been academic issues.

I agree with both of you. The articles published at the time of the suspension seemed to indicate a disagreement or conflict with Appert.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 25, 2017 11:54AM

USCHO list of all NC$$ draftees.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: BearLover (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: June 25, 2017 01:51PM

Trotsky
USCHO list of all NC$$ draftees.
Harvard, with two third- and one fourth-round pick, continues to recruit by far the best talent in the ECAC.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 25, 2017 04:17PM

I guess news about opponents' women's teams also belongs here.
RPI fired John Burke who has coached the team since the D-3 days. [www.troyrecord.com] The RPI AD stated that he fired Burke now as opposed to earlier since he was busy with the men's hockey coach replacement. As has been said elsewhere, the ability to multitask is apparently not a qualification to be the RPI AD. Also this doesn't explain why he still waited over two months after Dave Smith was named the new men's coach.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: June 27, 2017 02:58PM



RPI's third straight women's head coach who had been a men's AC.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: July 09, 2017 10:23AM

This article on Ryan Donato brings up an issue that I really hadn't thought about. Scituate’s Ryan Donato waits for his turn.

With the NHL not allowing their players to play for the Olympics this winter, some very good college players may lose some of the season, playing in the Olympics. Since it's right at the end of the regular season, Feb. 9-25, it could have a significant impact on some teams.

We'll have to see who gets selected.

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: dag14 (---.res.bhn.net)
Date: July 09, 2017 12:02PM

Olympic teams train for several months; college players who make the cut would likely take a leave of absence from school for the spring semester, if not the entire year. This obviously isn't true in sports that use pro athletes but it is for other sports. Rebecca Johnston is a good example; she took a leave the first time she made the Canadian team.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: July 09, 2017 05:30PM

dag14
Olympic teams train for several months; college players who make the cut would likely take a leave of absence from school for the spring semester, if not the entire year. This obviously isn't true in sports that use pro athletes but it is for other sports. Rebecca Johnston is a good example; she took a leave the first time she made the Canadian team.
Members of the 88-89 NC$$ champion Harvard team took the 87-88 year off to train and play in the Olympics: Lane MacDonald and Allen Bourbeau.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.20.---)
Date: September 01, 2017 12:57PM

[www.sbncollegehockey.com]

Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 01, 2017 06:35PM

CU2007
[www.sbncollegehockey.com]

Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.

On the same SBN College Hockey / ECAC subsite, a whoopsie for a Clarkson not-ready-for-primetime player.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2017 06:36PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.239.191.68.cl.cstel.com)
Date: September 02, 2017 08:45AM

SLU's Hayton Makes Official His Move to Wisconsin

and the USCHO article.

Here's SLU's news release.

Obviously a major loss for SLU. They have a Junior, Brey. It looks like he started 2 games, losing to Wisc. and winning Canisius, with mop up in 2 others. A current Soph, Mannella, who mopped up 1 game and in-coming Frosh, Gray – Austin, Texas – 5-11, 175 lbs – Goaltender

"Gray joins the Saints goaltending corps after spending last season with the OJHL's Toronto Patriots. In 30 appearances he made 28 starts with 1743:36 minutes played, posted a 15-14-0 record, a 2.99 goals-against average and .914 save percentage. He also had a 2.84 goals against and .917 save percentage in four playoff appearances (1-3-0)."

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Iceberg (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: September 02, 2017 12:05PM

The funny thing about that is the fact that St. Lawrence has two games in Wisconsin this upcoming season and Hayton would likely be starting against his old team twice.


In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if St. Lawrence were fighting for home ice near the end of the season. Even with Hayton, they haven't exactly been a top-tier team the past few years.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/02/2017 12:08PM by Iceberg.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 03, 2017 10:55AM

Jim Hyla
SLU's Hayton Makes Official His Move to Wisconsin

and the USCHO article.

Here's SLU's news release.

Obviously a major loss for SLU. They have a Junior, Brey. It looks like he started 2 games, losing to Wisc. and winning Canisius, with mop up in 2 others. A current Soph, Mannella, who mopped up 1 game and in-coming Frosh, Gray – Austin, Texas – 5-11, 175 lbs – Goaltender

"Gray joins the Saints goaltending corps after spending last season with the OJHL's Toronto Patriots. In 30 appearances he made 28 starts with 1743:36 minutes played, posted a 15-14-0 record, a 2.99 goals-against average and .914 save percentage. He also had a 2.84 goals against and .917 save percentage in four playoff appearances (1-3-0)."

Looks at article.

Looks at predictions page.

Mutters expletive.

Pulls up Expression Web.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/03/2017 10:55AM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: billhoward (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: September 03, 2017 11:41PM

CU2007
[www.sbncollegehockey.com]

Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.
You must be a traditionalist who wants verbs in most sentences -- "Starting with reigning ECAC Champs and Frozen Four participant, the Harvard Crimson." Note writer Nick Beaudoin's status per the story's author bio: broadcast/journalism major at Quinnipiac.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Iceberg (---.buffalo.rr.com)
Date: October 07, 2017 05:32PM

I suppose it would be time to revive this topic since other teams have meaningful games this weekend? It's too early to really tell anything yet but Clarkson did take out Penn State yesterday.
 
Re: Opponents News
Posted by: Trotsky (---.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
Date: October 07, 2017 05:39PM

Last night

Merrimack 1 @ Colgate 2
Penn State 1 @ Clarkson 2
Quinnipiac 1 @ Boston College 1 OT
Union 3 @ Michigan Tech 6
Michigan 3 @ St. Lawrence 1
 
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