Annual Expectations/Predictions Poll

Poll

Make Your Prediction: What performance would meet your expectations of Big Red Men's Hockey in 2016-17?

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73 votes were received.

ECAC Bottom Third	1		1%
ECAC First Round Home	24		33%
ECAC First Round Bye	15		21%
Lake Placid	18		25%
ECAC Champions and/or NCAA Regionals	12		16%
Frozen Four	1		1%
National Champions	2		3%

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The regular season starts two weeks from tonight, and this poll will run until the night before. Where do you think the men will end up this season? Vote in the poll so we can see the trends, then comment on the thread to claim your prediction.

Let's Go Red!

It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

I think they fight for 4th all season, finishing 5th ±2. If JAM repeats and we have two more legitimate scorers among the newcomers then we start talking about LP and edging into the NCAAs.

This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

I think they fight for 4th all season, finishing 5th ±2. If JAM repeats and we have two more legitimate scorers among the newcomers then we start talking about LP and edging into the NCAAs.

This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Yes I agree with this. I expect they will lose in they will finish in the mid tier of the league and not make NCAAs for the 6th time in the last 7 years. I expect they will continue to play boring St. Louis Blues/NJD dump n' chase 1-2-2 neutral zone trap style hockey. If they meet my expectations it will not be a fun season. As always NCAAs = success. Gotta be in it to win it.

I have moderately high hopes this year. Last year's freshman class was the best I've seen in quite a while, and while we lost some key players, it was a small graduating class overall. No idea what this year's freshman class will bring, but I'm really pumped to see what Angello, Vanderlaan, McCrea, and the rest can do down the road. I've been telling a Cornell hockey friend of mine that each year's freshman class is supposed to be great, and it paid off.

Plus, while last year's swoon was crushing, it's not like we were bad last year. If we finish a couple PWR spots better than we did last year, we're (likely, depending on how many upsets there are in conference tournaments) in the tourney.

Dafatone
Plus, while last year's swoon was crushing, it's not like we were bad last year. If we finish a couple PWR spots better than we did last year, we're (likely, depending on how many upsets there are in conference tournaments) in the tourney.

Wouldn't that be one spot better? Unless I don't understand we were just one spot away from being in.

Dafatone
I have moderately high hopes this year. Last year's freshman class was the best I've seen in quite a while, and while we lost some key players, it was a small graduating class overall. No idea what this year's freshman class will bring, but I'm really pumped to see what Angello, Vanderlaan, McCrea, and the rest can do down the road. I've been telling a Cornell hockey friend of mine that each year's freshman class is supposed to be great, and it paid off.

Plus, while last year's swoon was crushing, it's not like we were bad last year. If we finish a couple PWR spots better than we did last year, we're (likely, depending on how many upsets there are in conference tournaments) in the tourney.

Or last season's swoon was the real us, and the first half was a shooting percentage fueled mirage. Just sayin.

It would be a simple matter to see whether second halves are better predictors of the next year. It sounds like a fun project for TBRW.

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

You're just realizing that? Wait ten years, and you won't remember it anymore.

one not blown late game and we get in the NCAA tourney. one goal was all we needed

upprdeck
one not blown late game and we get in the NCAA tourney. one goal was all we needed

Which we couldn't score. As we couldn't in ten other games last year. You're not suggesting the offense is just fine, are you?

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

You're just realizing that? Wait ten years, and you won't remember it anymore.

Gee, thanks.

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

You're just realizing that? Wait ten years, and you won't remember it anymore.

Gee, thanks.

An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen.

The two elderly gentlemen were talking, and one said, "Last night we went out to a new restaurant, and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly."

The other man said, "What's the name of the restaurant?"

The first man knits his brow in obvious concentration, and finally said to his companion, "Aahh, What is the name of that red flower you give to someone you love?

His friends replies, "A Carnation??"

"No. No. The other one" the man says.

His friend offers another suggestion, "The Poppy?"

"Nahhhh, growls the man. You know the one that is red and has thorns."

His friend said, "Do you mean a rose?"

"Yes, Yes that's it. Thank you!" the first man says.

He then turns toward the kitchen and yells, "Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?"

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

You're just realizing that? Wait ten years, and you won't remember it anymore.

Gee, thanks.

An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen.

The two elderly gentlemen were talking, and one said, "Last night we went out to a new restaurant, and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly."

The other man said, "What's the name of the restaurant?"

The first man knits his brow in obvious concentration, and finally said to his companion, "Aahh, What is the name of that red flower you give to someone you love?

His friends replies, "A Carnation??"

"No. No. The other one" the man says.

His friend offers another suggestion, "The Poppy?"

"Nahhhh, growls the man. You know the one that is red and has thorns."

His friend said, "Do you mean a rose?"

"Yes, Yes that's it. Thank you!" the first man says.

He then turns toward the kitchen and yells, "Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?"

Better set up for that joke is one old guy telling another about a great memory training lecture that he attended, which taught word association techniques. Asked the name of the lecturer, he then does the rose bit

nshapiro

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Swampy

Trotsky
It's expectation, not "what constitutes a successful season?," so I went with first round home. The freshmen and returning sophomores will have to deliver most of the scoring -- the amount will depend on the system Mike goes with and how well they execute. Everyone here has called (more or less politely ) for an open and skill-minded style of play, and we have recruited consecutive classes which fit that. Last year's freshmen exceeded my wildest expectations.

Take heart then from the following:

Mike Schafer
“Gone are the days where you can physically punish teams, so now you have to intimidate with speed,” Schafer said to Cornell Athletics. “With this class, they’re all tremendous skaters and have great skills and offensive instincts. They’re going to increase our team’s speed and skill level and improve our ability to play at a faster pace.”

Trotsky
This is the 50th anniversary of the first national championship. Make it count, lads.

Amen, brother!

In Ned we trust.

I guess that means I have to accept that I'm old.

You're just realizing that? Wait ten years, and you won't remember it anymore.

Gee, thanks.

An elderly couple had dinner at another couple's house, and after eating, the wives left the table and went into the kitchen.

The two elderly gentlemen were talking, and one said, "Last night we went out to a new restaurant, and it was really great. I would recommend it very highly."

The other man said, "What's the name of the restaurant?"

The first man knits his brow in obvious concentration, and finally said to his companion, "Aahh, What is the name of that red flower you give to someone you love?

His friends replies, "A Carnation??"

"No. No. The other one" the man says.

His friend offers another suggestion, "The Poppy?"

"Nahhhh, growls the man. You know the one that is red and has thorns."

His friend said, "Do you mean a rose?"

"Yes, Yes that's it. Thank you!" the first man says.

He then turns toward the kitchen and yells, "Rose, what's the name of that restaurant we went to last night?"

Better set up for that joke is one old guy telling another about a great memory training lecture that he attended, which taught word association techniques. Asked the name of the lecturer, he then does the rose bit

So, I make a "joke" about being old and you guys pile on. Oh well, at least I can say I saw our NCAA Championships, So, there.

TimV

upprdeck
one not blown late game and we get in the NCAA tourney. one goal was all we needed

Which we couldn't score. As we couldn't in ten other games last year. You're not suggesting the offense is just fine, are you?

we didnt need to score the just not allow it. we had 2-3 games in a row we let in a goal in the last min and ended up losing in OT

@ the defense: IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!

So after missing the NCAAs four consecutive years, Cornell makes it four years in a row, likely including two one-seeds, and wins the Cleary Cup three times.

BearLover
So after missing the NCAAs four consecutive years, Cornell makes it four years in a row, likely including two one-seeds, and wins the Cleary Cup three times.

Fire Schaeferrrr!

BearLover
So after missing the NCAAs four consecutive years, Cornell makes it four years in a row, likely including two one-seeds, and wins the Cleary Cup three times.

First Cornell class to make the NCAA tournament all four years.

The only other streak of 4-straight was 67-70, when freshmen weren't eligible. Also the NCAA field was only 4 teams until 1981.

The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

[www.tbrw.info]

.864 percentage is this season (38 points in 22 games).

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

I know Greg doesn't care if we appreciate his work, but while tbrw? is sometimes hard to dig through and frames are annoying, he's got all the data.

2005 Cornell had 38, 2003 Cornell got 39. That's it going back to 1990. And that's as far back as I'll go, for reasons.

RichH

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

I know Greg doesn't care if we appreciate his work,

I care very much. Also, I'm sorry for the navigation issues and the antiquated design. 4 years until retirement.

Trotsky

RichH

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

I know Greg doesn't care if we appreciate his work,

I care very much. Also, I'm sorry for the navigation issues and the antiquated design. 4 years until retirement.

Well, then I would like you to know that I appreciate it. Sometimes I just have to stare at the index a while, and sometimes I just wait for you to link to things I'm looking for (like "in the red" ), but I often head there first. CHN also has done a good job in recent years at cataloging historical data.

RichH

Trotsky

RichH

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

I know Greg doesn't care if we appreciate his work,

I care very much. Also, I'm sorry for the navigation issues and the antiquated design. 4 years until retirement.

Well, then I would like you to know that I appreciate it. Sometimes I just have to stare at the index a while, and sometimes I just wait for you to link to things I'm looking for (like "in the red" ), but I often head there first. CHN also has done a good job in recent years at cataloging historical data.

I have always needed a search box. I just don't know how to implement it myself yet and I refuse to use a COTS solution because of bullheadedness.

Trotsky

Dafatone
The ecac site seems to crap out at 2006-07, but our 38 points is the most a team has put up since then.

[www.tbrw.info]

.864 percentage is this season (38 points in 22 games).

Clarkson controlled their own destiny heading into the final weekend and ended up 5 points back. Final standings do not look close at all.

If I understand the tiebreakers, big congrats to RPI (more wins than Harvard) for getting a weekend off. What's the tiebreaker for Yale and Dartmouth, both at 10-10-2?

ugarte

Trotsky
What's the tiebreaker for Yale and Dartmouth, both at 10-10-2?

1-1 H2H.

In games vs Top 4 it's Dartmouth 2-5-1 vs Yale 2-6. So Dartmouth wins the tie breaker because they beat us.