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Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16

Posted by Johnny 5 
Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 16, 2016 08:16PM

This may just be an exercise in fertility.
You know, that's where we get screwed; again.
But, since we all bleed Big Red blood...in the words of that renowned philosopher, statesman and visionary, Ragnar Lothbruk, "Puck 'em and feed 'em fish heads"!!



banana LGR!!!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2016 08:16PM by Johnny 5.

 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: jkahn (---.whitingcorp.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 12:12PM

The game will be televised on NESN+.
[nesn.com]

 
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Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 12:39PM

jkahn
The game will be televised on NESN+.
[nesn.com]

Does anyone know of a public viewing spot in Ithaca??
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 01:54PM

Would anyone record it and make me a DVD?

 
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-140.myvzw.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 02:50PM

Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: jkahn (---.whitingcorp.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 04:08PM

marty
Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
You need a bar that has the Directv Sports Pack.

 
___________________________
Jeff Kahn '70 '72
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: redice (98.159.215.---)
Date: February 18, 2016 04:53PM

jkahn
marty
Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
You need a bar that has the Directv Sports Pack.

Does anyone which bar that might be, in Ithaca?

I didn't realize that TWC Does not even offer NESN. Shame on TWC...asshole

 
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-Ned Harkness
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 06:27PM

jkahn
marty
Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
You need a bar that has the Directv Sports Pack.
What Jim and I need is someone with a DVR who will make a copy for us. I’ll be watching RIP attempt to exterminate the Deerticks in the Morgue © . I’m betting Jim will be at Lynah East tomorrow night.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2016 06:28PM by marty.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: redice (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 18, 2016 08:00PM

redice
jkahn
marty
Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
You need a bar that has the Directv Sports Pack.

Does anyone which bar that might be, in Ithaca?

I didn't realize that TWC Does not even offer NESN. Shame on TWC...asshole

I found Captain Morgan's in Corning, NY... The bartender, who will also be working tomorrow night promised me a TV for the Cornell-Harvard game... Life is good!!:-)
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 12:25AM

Anyone know if there is an internet feed for NESN Plus? I checked their website, but it was difficult to tell.

Assuming there isn't one, is the ILDN likely to use the NESN Plus video production, so at least the production quality should be better than usual, even if the transmission is not?
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.20.---)
Date: February 19, 2016 11:52AM

redice
jkahn
marty
Yes, I'm with Jim, there is no NESN on Time Warner.

Tim, Al?
Anyone?
You need a bar that has the Directv Sports Pack.

Does anyone which bar that might be, in Ithaca?

I didn't realize that TWC Does not even offer NESN. Shame on TWC...asshole



I'd call the Fall Creek House or Uncle Joe's if I were you.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 06:29PM

WHCU currently in loading limbo, so either we're all hitting the server simultaneously or all the derp finally clogged their pipes.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2016 06:29PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 06:34PM

ILDN up and showing the Harvard logo. Unknown whether they will use the NESN feed.

Edit: NESN feed up.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2016 06:50PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 06:50PM

Knisley sitting for what could be his last Harvard game.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:24PM

no whcu feed for me and I can't seem to chromecast either. hmmmm. LGR!
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:34PM

How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

a team that struggles to score and now has had 1 cleared by the D from the goal line and one taken away by a blind ref..

this team used all its brakes up pre christmas it seems.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:36PM

upprdeck
How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

Yeah, that was a horrible whistle. Horrible.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:41PM

Scersk '97
upprdeck
How does a ref blow the whistle on a puck that sitting clearly behind the goalie and has his hands in a position that he could never cover the puck even if he wanted too.

Yeah, that was a horrible whistle. Horrible.

Really? From the replay I saw (and perhaps I can go back and watch it again and if I do perhaps I'll feel differently) it looked like the puck was under the goalie and Hilbrich poked it in from underneath him.

I'm going to have to go see if I can take a look at it again.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:46PM

the goalie has his hands by his sides and the puck roles down around behind his head. how can you rule any control in that situation? if it was under his feet would you rule it the same way. far different from a goalie laying on the puck
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 08:48PM

upprdeck
the goalie has his hands by his sides and the puck roles down around behind his head. how can you rule any control in that situation? if it was under his feet would you rule it the same way. far different from a goalie laying on the puck

I watched the replay. The goalie was, in fact, laying on the puck.

As much as I'd like to say "We were robbed!", I think that was a pretty standard call. It would have taken a really slow whistle for that goal to have been allowed.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2016 08:51PM by andyw2100.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:03PM

so now a harvard guy in the crease wacks the goalie and thats not interefernce?
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:05PM

upprdeck
so now a harvard guy in the crease wacks the goalie and thats not interefernce?

He even played the puck!
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:07PM

Playing angry for once!
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:08PM

its like they focus on the shot and ignore the other 10 things that happened.. much like the first replay that went harvards way on the clear by the D,, did they watch the replay and notice this missed the clear boarding cross check?
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:47PM

best effort in awhile and no reward. helped teams above them lost though
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 09:49PM

where did you see the goalie laying on the puck? he was laying on his back and the puck rolled under his head? is that now control? they dont always rule control when a goalie has his glove over a puck
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 10:09PM

upprdeck
where did you see the goalie laying on the puck? he was laying on his back and the puck rolled under his head? is that now control? they dont always rule control when a goalie has his glove over a puck

Are we watching the same play? To me it looked like the puck was at least below the goalie's shoulders--not under his head--and Hilbrich poked it in from under him.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 10:16PM

a puck sliding under a prone player does not always warrant control? now if the ref says it he lost sight there is not much you can do, it didnt take much of an effort to put it in and it could easily be under the goalie and with the helmet not even touching the puck. If am a ref I want to make the player at least be in some position to be controlling the puck not just laying there hoping if slides under me. far different when a play is trying to squeeze it under legs or arms and actually control it.

really though the harvard goal is the one thats really a questionable call. how do you review that and not call something with a player in the crease hitting the goalie and no puck within reach?
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 19, 2016 10:58PM

upprdeck
a puck sliding under a prone player does not always warrant control? now if the ref says it he lost sight there is not much you can do, it didnt take much of an effort to put it in and it could easily be under the goalie and with the helmet not even touching the puck. If am a ref I want to make the player at least be in some position to be controlling the puck not just laying there hoping if slides under me. far different when a play is trying to squeeze it under legs or arms and actually control it.

I think the ref must have whistled the play dead because he lost sight of the puck. I took some screen shots that actually show the ref whistling the play dead while the puck was still out in plain view. (The first image.) So it may have been a quick whistle, but on the other hand he may have lost sight of the puck before then.
[postimg.org]


In the second image, the ref has already stopped blowing the whistle, the puck is now under the goalie's shoulders, and Hilbrich has not yet started to reach under the goalie with his stick.
[postimg.org]


In the third image, the ref has clearly stopped the play, the puck is still under the goalie's shoulders, and Hilbrich's stick is also under the goalie's shoulders, reaching for the puck.
[postimg.org]


In the fourth image Hilbrich is just about to sweep the puck from under the goalie into the net.
[postimg.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/19/2016 10:59PM by andyw2100.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 11:32PM

It seemed to me blowing the whistle made more sense on the 2nd Harvard goal than on the Cornell no-goal.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: BearLover (---.hfc.comcastbusiness.net)
Date: February 19, 2016 11:33PM

Good effort, though. It'd have been one of the best games I've seen in-person had Cornell pulled out a win.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2016 12:22AM

BearLover
It seemed to me blowing the whistle made more sense on the 2nd Harvard goal than on the Cornell no-goal.

Interestingly (or not) there were different refs behind the net on each of those goals. Lynch had the quick whistle on the Hilbrich no-goal. Whittemore never whistled the play dead on the Harvard goal that went in off of Fiegl's skate.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.customer.static.ip.paetec.net)
Date: February 20, 2016 12:37AM

One thing I never understood is if it's a quick whistle, what are they doing reviewing the play? If he said the whistle blew,what could they see on review to change anything?

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2016 12:49AM

Jim Hyla
One thing I never understood is if it's a quick whistle, what are they doing reviewing the play? If he said the whistle blew,what could they see on review to change anything?

They didn't review the Hilbrich no-goal. The ref skated right over to Schafer and apparently was telling him that he had whistled the play dead. (Couldn't you hear him? You were sitting right there! :) )
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2016 01:24AM

Sorry guys- I didn't read the thread until just now.

 
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Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Dafatone (---.midco.net)
Date: February 20, 2016 04:41AM

We still had trouble getting the puck out of our zone, and we do this annoying thing on offense, especially on the power play, where we hold on to the puck at the point, think about shooting, and then finally fire a shot into the defender's ankles. I'm not one to yell "shoot" constantly, but we need to be pulling the trigger more quickly or passing up the shot altogether.

But we looked competent, which is nice. Kind of an underwhelming game to watch a replay of until 3:30am, but I did catch a friend of mine in a shot of the stands, so there's that.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: LynahFaithful2015 (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: February 20, 2016 12:43PM

As a recent alum I had a great time at the game. I almost felt like I was back at Lynah. Unfortunate that some calls didn't go our way, the Red really had every opportunity to win that game. Since it was on NESN+, will there be a way to watch a full replay of the game? I'm not sure if ILDN can host a full archive of the game if they didn't broadcast it exclusively. I'd really like rewatch certain parts with commentary.

Here's a link to some highlights if anyone's interested: [www.youtube.com]
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: andyw2100 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 20, 2016 04:37PM

LynahFaithful2015
As a recent alum I had a great time at the game. I almost felt like I was back at Lynah. Unfortunate that some calls didn't go our way, the Red really had every opportunity to win that game. Since it was on NESN+, will there be a way to watch a full replay of the game? I'm not sure if ILDN can host a full archive of the game if they didn't broadcast it exclusively. I'd really like rewatch certain parts with commentary.

It's currently available on ILDN, at least for now:

[www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/20/2016 04:38PM by andyw2100.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: February 24, 2016 08:28AM

Harvard has set up a hockey fan survey.

You know what to do.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Robb (---.mycingular.net)
Date: February 24, 2016 09:11AM

Pornspam?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2016 09:11AM by Robb.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 24, 2016 09:12AM

Robb
Pornspam?

I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

 
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Give My Regards (98.159.210.---)
Date: February 24, 2016 09:44AM

Beeeej
I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

Wait, how does that improve the Harvard hockey experience for us? (OK, I'm still not convinced that Harvard's better seasons of late are because of Teddy, rather than in spite of him)

 
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If you lead a good life, go to Sunday school and church, and say your prayers every night, when you die, you'll go to LYNAH!

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2016 09:49AM by Give My Regards.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.coxfiber.net)
Date: February 24, 2016 12:27PM

Beeeej
Robb
Pornspam?

I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

My suggestion was "Bring back Mark Mazzoleni."
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-209-129.myvzw.com)
Date: February 24, 2016 12:39PM

Beeeej
Robb
Pornspam?

I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

I suggested that they serve Suicide Sandwiches in the concession areas and that the lighting be improved over the players' bench. Reason for the lighting improvement was to better appreciate the shine reflected off Ted's head.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: RichH (134.223.116.---)
Date: February 24, 2016 03:11PM

DisplacedCornellian
Beeeej
Robb
Pornspam?

I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

My suggestion was "Bring back Mark Mazzoleni."

Ugh. Harvard was more successful under Mazz the Rat. Teddy Rogaine's talent-squandering record suits me just fine. It's like Mike Gilligan's DNA moved to Allston.

I can't submit the form because my answer to the first question isn't there.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: February 24, 2016 08:28PM

RichH
I can't submit the form because my answer to the first question isn't there.
I give you permission to lie and say you went to all of them. They'll take you more seriously anyway.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: Roy 82 (128.18.14.---)
Date: February 24, 2016 09:01PM

Trotsky
RichH
I can't submit the form because my answer to the first question isn't there.
I give you permission to lie and say you went to all of them. They'll take you more seriously anyway.

Careful, pretending that you went to Harvard can get you into trouble.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: ithacat (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 25, 2016 10:11PM

DisplacedCornellian
Beeeej
Robb
Pornspam?

I just answered "How can we improve the hockey experience?" with "Replace the head coach."

My suggestion was "Bring back Mark Mazzoleni."

I went with play Cornell more often.
 
Re: Cornell @ Harvard 02/19/16
Posted by: CU2007 (160.254.20.---)
Date: February 26, 2016 12:16PM

[www.theplayerstribune.com]

Good read. Interesting to note that he calls Yale their biggest rival.
 

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