Bracketology Begins

Sort of, that is. USCHO shows us going to Albany, with Harvard, Minnesota State, and Penn State. That would be fun, which is all that this discussion means at this time of year.

Five ECAC teams! The fix is in.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Five ECAC teams! The fix is in.

Not in all regions, though. They're afraid of an all-ECAC Frozen Four. Western bias.

According to the blog, given our pairwise ranking and based on historical results, we have a 75% chance of making the tournament. I wouldn't believe this on the first day of the season.

KGR11
According to the blog, given our pairwise ranking and based on historical results, we have a 75% chance of making the tournament. I wouldn't believe this on the first day of the season.

Not sure I believe it now. I'm treating this season as refreshing but staying keeping my expectations low.

ugarte

KGR11
According to the blog, given our pairwise ranking and based on historical results, we have a 75% chance of making the tournament. I wouldn't believe this on the first day of the season.

Not sure I believe it now. I'm treating this season as refreshing but staying keeping my expectations low.

The data says that a team ranked 5-8 on Jan 1 has made the tournament 75% of the time. That's not quite the same as saying that any given team has that probability.

What are our chances? On the one hand most everyone here still thinks we're playing a bit oer our heads still. So some regression might be expected. On the other hand, the strong ECAC means we're probably assured a pretty strong SoS, which provides a solid basis for a high ranking. (It could also provide more reason for regression, but whatever).

if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

LaJollaRed

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

2/27/1987. We've missed 10 since then. Our opponents have scored 7.

Trotsky

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

In overtime.

KeithK

Trotsky

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

In overtime.

I feel bad for the Cornell player who will be killed on a breakaway in order to get a penalty shot called in OT of the NCAA final.

ugarte

KeithK

Trotsky

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

In overtime.

I feel bad for the Cornell player who will be killed on a breakaway in order to get a penalty shot called in OT of the NCAA final.

if a player is killed like that can a substitute take the penalty shot? Must it be someone who is on the ice at the time?

No worries, we'll name the locker room or something in his honor. It'll be worth it.

Trotsky

LaJollaRed

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

2/27/1987. We've missed 10 since then. Our opponents have scored 7.

Joe Nieuwendyk was in attendance for one of the three attempts in the '07 season. I want to say the last one, since my friends and I were aware that it had been about 20 years. We were convinced the streak would end there.

It didn't.

Dafatone

Trotsky

LaJollaRed

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

2/27/1987. We've missed 10 since then. Our opponents have scored 7.

Joe Nieuwendyk was in attendance for one of the three attempts in the '07 season. I want to say the last one, since my friends and I were aware that it had been about 20 years. We were convinced the streak would end there.

It didn't.

I want Gillam to break it.

KeithK

ugarte

KeithK

Trotsky

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

In overtime.

I feel bad for the Cornell player who will be killed on a breakaway in order to get a penalty shot called in OT of the NCAA final.

if a player is killed like that can a substitute take the penalty shot? Must it be someone who is on the ice at the time?

No worries, we'll name the locker room or something in his honor. It'll be worth it.

A Zamboni?

Swampy

KeithK

ugarte

KeithK

Trotsky

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

That's gonna happen in an NCAA final. It is fate.

In overtime.

I feel bad for the Cornell player who will be killed on a breakaway in order to get a penalty shot called in OT of the NCAA final.

if a player is killed like that can a substitute take the penalty shot? Must it be someone who is on the ice at the time?

No worries, we'll name the locker room or something in his honor. It'll be worth it.

A Zamboni?

An Olympia!

Trotsky

Dafatone

Trotsky

LaJollaRed

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

2/27/1987. We've missed 10 since then. Our opponents have scored 7.

Joe Nieuwendyk was in attendance for one of the three attempts in the '07 season. I want to say the last one, since my friends and I were aware that it had been about 20 years. We were convinced the streak would end there.

It didn't.

I want Gillam to break it.

My brain hurts trying to think of a scenario where that could happen.

Dafatone

Trotsky

Dafatone

Trotsky

LaJollaRed

KeithK

upprdeck
if we go to albany does the Ghost of PC Drouin and a cross bar finally go away... or perhaps the goal that was overturned earlier in the game that would count now if the replay video was actually working.

replay really owes is a big one someday.. thanks NH..

We'll get payback the day we score on a penalty shot.

Now I'm wondering...When's the last time we scored a penalty shot? I have no memory of this.

2/27/1987. We've missed 10 since then. Our opponents have scored 7.

Joe Nieuwendyk was in attendance for one of the three attempts in the '07 season. I want to say the last one, since my friends and I were aware that it had been about 20 years. We were convinced the streak would end there.

It didn't.

I want Gillam to break it.

My brain hurts trying to think of a scenario where that could happen.

He was talking about Mitch Gillam's yet unborn grandson, a forward on the 2065-2066 team.

Winter Break is obviously too long.

It starts for real.

His results are:

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Denver vs. 4 Harvard
10 Boston College vs. 5 Cornell

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Holy Cross vs. 1 Quinnipiac
12 Yale vs. 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 St. Cloud State
9 Michigan vs. 6 Providence

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota State vs. 2 North Dakota
11 Notre Dame vs. 7 Nebraska-Omaha
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
ECAC Hockey — 4
NCHC — 4
WCHA — 1
Big Ten — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Any complaints?

Jim Hyla
It starts for real.

His results are:

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Denver vs. 4 Harvard
10 Boston College vs. 5 Cornell

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Holy Cross vs. 1 Quinnipiac
12 Yale vs. 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 St. Cloud State
9 Michigan vs. 6 Providence

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota State vs. 2 North Dakota
11 Notre Dame vs. 7 Nebraska-Omaha
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
ECAC Hockey — 4
NCHC — 4
WCHA — 1
Big Ten — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Any complaints?

Why not swap BC and Notre Dame? #5 Cornell + #11 Notre Dame = 16 and #7 UNO + #10 BC = 17. Much closer to the ideal "17 point" matchups than the 15 and 18 that they have set up now. Plus I just don't want to play BC in an Eastern Regional. Yes, I know 2003, but...

Robb

Jim Hyla
It starts for real.

His results are:

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Denver vs. 4 Harvard
10 Boston College vs. 5 Cornell

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Holy Cross vs. 1 Quinnipiac
12 Yale vs. 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 St. Cloud State
9 Michigan vs. 6 Providence

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota State vs. 2 North Dakota
11 Notre Dame vs. 7 Nebraska-Omaha
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
ECAC Hockey — 4
NCHC — 4
WCHA — 1
Big Ten — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Any complaints?

Why not swap BC and Notre Dame? #5 Cornell + #11 Notre Dame = 16 and #7 UNO + #10 BC = 17. Much closer to the ideal "17 point" matchups than the 15 and 18 that they have set up now. Plus I just don't want to play BC in an Eastern Regional. Yes, I know 2003, but...

I agree. A straight swap of Notre Dame and Yale would better preserve "Bracket Integrity." Looks like this was picked to minimize travel and boost attendance.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Robb

Jim Hyla
It starts for real.

His results are:

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Denver vs. 4 Harvard
10 Boston College vs. 5 Cornell

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Holy Cross vs. 1 Quinnipiac
12 Yale vs. 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 St. Cloud State
9 Michigan vs. 6 Providence

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota State vs. 2 North Dakota
11 Notre Dame vs. 7 Nebraska-Omaha
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
ECAC Hockey — 4
NCHC — 4
WCHA — 1
Big Ten — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Any complaints?

Why not swap BC and Notre Dame? #5 Cornell + #11 Notre Dame = 16 and #7 UNO + #10 BC = 17. Much closer to the ideal "17 point" matchups than the 15 and 18 that they have set up now. Plus I just don't want to play BC in an Eastern Regional. Yes, I know 2003, but...

I agree. A straight swap of Notre Dame and Yale would better preserve "Bracket Integrity." Looks like this was picked to minimize travel and boost attendance.

That's exactly what he said:

We now take geography into account, and thus, Boston College goes to Albany and Notre Dame to St. Paul.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Robb
With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Luckily, we almost certainly won't have to worry about this specific set and order of sixteen teams.

Beeeej

Robb
With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Luckily, we almost certainly won't have to worry about this specific set and order of sixteen teams.

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

Al DeFlorio

Beeeej

Robb
With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Luckily, we almost certainly won't have to worry about this specific set and order of sixteen teams.

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

If this were October, I'd agree with you. If we fall out of the tournament at this point....

Robb

Al DeFlorio

Beeeej

Robb
With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Luckily, we almost certainly won't have to worry about this specific set and order of sixteen teams.

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

If this were October, I'd agree with you. If we fall out of the tournament at this point....

We still have more than 50% of of the season to go, including league playoffs. And this has proven to be a strong league. I'm not counting on an at-large bid at this point.

RichH

Robb

Al DeFlorio

Beeeej

Robb
With Minnesota State and UND, the attendance "help" from Notre Dame would be unnoticeable. Albany would undoubtedly benefit from BC, though. Based on recent trends, though, that benefit is on the order of hundreds, not thousand. Not enough different to justify mixing up the serpent in my mind, despite the committee's philosophy that "all 3 seeds are created equal."

Luckily, we almost certainly won't have to worry about this specific set and order of sixteen teams.

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

If this were October, I'd agree with you. If we fall out of the tournament at this point....

We still have more than 50% of of the season to go, including league playoffs. And this has proven to be a strong league. I'm not counting on an at-large bid at this point.

Right. Six of next eight on the road and the two at home are Harvard and old nemesis Dartmouth. Long way to go.

RichH

Robb

Al DeFlorio

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

If this were October, I'd agree with you. If we fall out of the tournament at this point....

We still have more than 50% of of the season to go, including league playoffs. And this has proven to be a strong league. I'm not counting on an at-large bid at this point.

I'm with Al and would be very happy if we play well enough to make the tournament. #5 at this point last year, Bowling Green, did not make it, and they had played 20 games at this point, compared with our 15, so they had a higher percentage of their season already in the bank compared to us.

jkahn

RichH

Robb

Al DeFlorio

I'll be happy if we get to worry about any set of seedings.

If this were October, I'd agree with you. If we fall out of the tournament at this point....

We still have more than 50% of of the season to go, including league playoffs. And this has proven to be a strong league. I'm not counting on an at-large bid at this point.

I'm with Al and would be very happy if we play well enough to make the tournament. #5 at this point last year, Bowling Green, did not make it, and they had played 20 games at this point, compared with our 15, so they had a higher percentage of their season already in the bank compared to us.

As always, all I want is a home-ice ECAC quarterfinal. Everything else takes care of itself.

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Penn State vs. 4 Providence
9 Boston College vs 8 Cornell

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Holy Cross vs. 1 Quinnipiac
12 Boston University vs. 6 Harvard

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 North Dakota
10 Notre Dame vs. 7 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota State vs. 2 St. Cloud State
11 Yale vs. 5 Omaha
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
ECAC Hockey — 4
NCHC — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

I like the switches he made.

And we're on the outside looking in, even though we're 14^th.

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
13 Denver vs. 4 Providence
12 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 5 Harvard

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Robert Morris vs. 1 Quinnipiac
10 Yale vs. 7 Boston College

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
15 Minnesota State vs. 3 North Dakota
11 Boston University vs. 6 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
14 Minnesota vs. 2 St. Cloud State
9 Omaha vs 8 Notre Dame

Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: Denver, Minnesota

Out: Cornell, Penn State

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Jim Hyla
And we're on the outside looking in, even though we're 14^th.

Luckily it's still January.

I know the college hockey community will discuss anything in excruciating detail, but I just don't understand the interest in USCHO starting a bracketology column in early January. (This is not a criticism of this thread, but merely a comment on the ridiculousness of the column itself.)

andyw2100

Jim Hyla
And we're on the outside looking in, even though we're 14^th.

Luckily it's still January.

I know the college hockey community will discuss anything in excruciating detail, but I just don't understand the interest in USCHO starting a bracketology column in early January. (This is not a criticism of this thread, but merely a comment on the ridiculousness of the column itself.)

Because it's fun? And if people really read the column, they'll hopefully get a better understanding of the presumed process. The more times it's out there, the more likely people will read through the process?

andyw2100

Jim Hyla
And we're on the outside looking in, even though we're 14^th.

Luckily it's still January.

I know the college hockey community will discuss anything in excruciating detail, but I just don't understand the interest in USCHO starting a bracketology column in early January. (This is not a criticism of this thread, but merely a comment on the ridiculousness of the column itself.)

Same reasons the US has polling/debates/24-hr blather 15 months before a general election. Ratings, page clicks, ad sales. Fans love talking polls, demand PWR in October, and this is the next logical step.

call we call this a jinx yet.. every since it came out and said almost no team doesnt get in when they are that high in PWR we havent won a game

RPI, Dartmouth and Cornell all knocked out because of conference champions that are ranked below #16. Atlantic, WCHA and Big Ten.

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
13 Yale vs. 4 Michigan
12 Denver vs. 5 Boston College

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Robert Morris vs. 1 Quinnipiac
9 Omaha vs 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
14 Minnesota State vs. 3 North Dakota
10 Notre Dame vs. 6 Providence

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota vs. 2 St. Cloud State
11 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 7 Harvard
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: None

Out: None

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Jim Hyla
... Cornell ... knocked out because of conference champions that are ranked below #16. Atlantic, WCHA and Big Ten they haven't won a game in a month.

FYP

ugarte

Jim Hyla
... Cornell ... knocked out because of conference champions that are ranked below #16. Atlantic, WCHA and Big Ten they haven't won a game in a month.

FYP

This

We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

Trotsky
We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

We have only lost 3 conference games in the past 2 months!

Roy 82

Trotsky
We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

We have only lost 3 conference games in the past 2 months!

5, I think?

BearLover

Roy 82

Trotsky
We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

We have only lost 3 conference games in the past 2 months!

5, I think?

Whoops, I forgot (repressed) last weekend!

I put exclamation points at the end of every sentence!

Roy 82

BearLover

Roy 82

Trotsky
We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

We have only lost 3 conference games in the past 2 months!

5, I think?

Whoops, I forgot (repressed) last weekend!

I put exclamation points at the end of every sentence!

Nice!

BearLover

Roy 82

BearLover

Roy 82

Trotsky
We haven't won a conference game in 2 months.

We have only lost 3 conference games in the past 2 months!

5, I think?

Whoops, I forgot (repressed) last weekend!

I put exclamation points at the end of every sentence!

Nice!

Thanks!

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
14 Robert Morris vs. 4 Boston College
11 Harvard vs. 5 Providence

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
15 Minnesota State vs. 1 Quinnipiac
10 Yale vs 8 Boston University

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 North Dakota
12 Denver vs. 6 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
16 Minnesota vs. 2 St. Cloud State
9 Omaha vs. 7 Notre Dame
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: None

Out: None

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
15 Minnesota State vs. 4 Boston College
12 Harvard vs. 5 Providence

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Robert Morris vs. 1 Quinnipiac
10 Yale vs 8 Denver

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
13 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 3 North Dakota
11 Boston University vs. 6 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
14 Minnesota vs. 2 St. Cloud State
9 Omaha vs. 7 Notre Dame
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: None

Out: None

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Some interesting PWR stuff to happen this week..

Mass -lowell has 2 games with #3 BC

Neb Omaha which is 8-11 in their league yet #11 in PWR plays 2 with #4 North Dakota and then next week 2 at #8 Denver
getting them to drop would help our cause

need mich to run the table and knock PSU/Minn/OSU out

upprdeck
Some interesting PWR stuff to happen this week..

Mass -lowell has 2 games with #3 BC

Neb Omaha which is 8-11 in their league yet #11 in PWR plays 2 with #4 North Dakota and then next week 2 at #8 Denver
getting them to drop would help our cause

need mich to run the table and knock PSU/Minn/OSU out

Huh. I guess those games worry me a little. I'm not sure losing to a top team would hurt the PWR of Mass Lowell or UNO, but a win or two would really help.

Adam's early take on CHN:

[www.collegehockeynews.com]

if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

Hard for us to make much of a case, at least in the court of public opinion, if they beat tOSU.

Maybe the best thing to come of this season will be for our YOUNG team to learn it has to show up EVERY night.

KeithK

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

A 16 team field is about 25% of D-1, which I think is easy to forget.

Dafatone

KeithK

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

A 16 team field is about 25% of D-1, which I think is easy to forget.

The problem is 12 sucks. By all rights it ought to be 8. But by all rights the ECACs ought to be 8, too.

Trotsky

Dafatone

KeithK

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

A 16 team field is about 25% of D-1, which I think is easy to forget.

The problem is 12 sucks. By all rights it ought to be 8. But by all rights the ECACs ought to be 8, too.

Yeah, I think twelve would be the perfect number of bids, given the size of D1. If some smart person can find a way to make 12 be a power of 2 that would be awesome.

Less than 16 means either conference champs wouldn't get in or many deserving teams wouldn't make it.

BearLover
Less than 16 means either conference champs wouldn't get in or many deserving teams wouldn't make it.

and gives school less incentive to invest in the sport as a result

KeithK

Trotsky

Dafatone

KeithK

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

A 16 team field is about 25% of D-1, which I think is easy to forget.

The problem is 12 sucks. By all rights it ought to be 8. But by all rights the ECACs ought to be 8, too.

Yeah, I think twelve would be the perfect number of bids, given the size of D1. If some smart person can find a way to make 12 be a power of 2 that would be awesome.

The tournament included 12 teams from 1988-2001. Four teams received byes for the first round of the tournament. There were two formats over this span. A big reason for the change to 16 was when the "fifth" league - now known as Atlantic Hockey - finally received its automatic bid. With a likely increase in the number of Division One teams in the near future, we will never see a move back to 12, 8 or 4 teams selected for the Frozen Four.

BearLover
Less than 16 means either conference champs wouldn't get in or many deserving teams wouldn't make it.

I disagree. Teams 13-16 (or more likely 11-14) hardly "deserve" a chance to play for the national championship. Besides, IMO it's always better to leave out a few worthy teams than to have a bigger field and invite the unworthy.

(BTW - I consider the conference champions "worthy" by definition, at least more worthy than any at-large.)

marty
The tournament included 12 teams from 1988-2001. Four teams received byes for the first round of the tournament. There were two formats over this span. A big reason for the change to 16 was when the "fifth" league - now known as Atlantic Hockey - finally received its automatic bid. With a likely increase in the number of Division One teams in the near future, we will never see a move back to 12, 8 or 4 teams selected for the Frozen Four.

You're absolutely correct. That doesn't mean I have to like it.

KeithK

Trotsky

Dafatone

KeithK

upprdeck
if UNO stays in the top 16 with those losses and is 8-15 and 6th in their own league then using the PWR to decide who gets in is completely broken,

who did they beat to get such a lofty ranking OC?

vermont/air force/ohio state sub 20 teams.

If this is evidence of a broken system it's only broken in that there are too many teams in the tournament. UNO still have a winning percentage north of .600 and there are only a few teams below them in PWR that have a higher pct, none of whom scream out "must get a bid".

A 16 team field is about 25% of D-1, which I think is easy to forget.

The problem is 12 sucks. By all rights it ought to be 8. But by all rights the ECACs ought to be 8, too.

Yeah, I think twelve would be the perfect number of bids, given the size of D1. If some smart person can find a way to make 12 be a power of 2 that would be awesome.

How about: 2 round robins of 6, with top 2 teams from each advancing to FF. Games at higher seeded school, so #1s host 5 games and #6s play 5 on the road.

KeithK
If some smart person can find a way to make 12 be a power of 2 that would be awesome.

2 ^ 3.584962

(drops protractor)

So, since I also went to Michigan, 
and I don't have anyone else that I really care about, 
they also get a highlight.

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
13 Omaha vs. 4 Providence
11 Harvard vs. 5 Boston College

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Minnesota State vs. 1 Quinnipiac
10 Boston University vs 8 Yale

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
15 Robert Morris vs. 3 St. Cloud State
9 Notre Dame vs. 6 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
14 Minnesota vs. 2 North Dakota
12 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 7 Denver
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: None

Out: None

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
13 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 4 Providence
11 Harvard vs. 5 Boston College

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Robert Morris vs. 2 Quinnipiac
9 Boston University vs 7 Yale

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
14 Michigan Tech vs. 3 St. Cloud State
10 Notre Dame vs. 8 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota vs. 1 North Dakota
12 Massachusetts-Lowell vs. 6 Denver
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: Minnesota-Duluth, Michigan Tech

Out: Omaha, Minnesota State
Attendance woes?

Cincinnati is looking a little better this week.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

This week’s brackets

East Regional (Albany):
13 Minnesota-Duluth vs. 4 Providence
11 Harvard vs. 5 Boston College

Northeast Regional (Worcester):
16 Robert Morris vs. 2 Quinnipiac
10 Yale vs 8 Massachusetts-Lowell

Midwest Regional (Cincinnati):
14 Michigan Tech vs. 3 St. Cloud State
12 Notre Dame vs. 7 Michigan

West Regional (St. Paul):
15 Minnesota vs. 1 North Dakota
9 Boston University vs. 6 Denver
Conference breakdowns

Hockey East — 5
NCHC — 4
ECAC Hockey — 3
Big Ten — 2
WCHA — 1
Atlantic Hockey — 1
On the move

In: None

Out: None
Attendance woes?

Cincinnati is looking a little better this week.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

how did the ECAC end up on american sports network? could they have worked harder to make sure its on a network no one can actually watch?

I've never heard of it. But I'm sure shagwell tried. It's just not a good product.

The league should pay to air it, like beach volleyball or a weights infomercial.

Trotsky
I've never heard of it. But I'm sure shagwell tried. It's just not a good product.

The league should pay to air it, like beach volleyball or a weights infomercial.

Halfway surprised Q hasn't paid for its placid games to be on SNY, etc. I guess they don't get to choose like they do for home games.

Trotsky
I've never heard of it. But I'm sure shagwell tried. It's just not a good product.

The league should pay to air it, like beach volleyball or a weights infomercial.

FIOS (Westchester NY) has it listed on Channel 481, "Arise News." However, despite having programs listed in the directory (mostly college basketball and hockey games from earlier in the season), there's been an error message on the screen all week saying that the network is currently not providing content. I'm not holding out much hope.

the ASN wiki page has 1 place in all of new york that shows the network.

Here's the ECAC page listing the channels around the country showing the games. SNY in NY and CSN in NE has championship game. But most of them don't carry the semis.

Jim Hyla
Here's the ECAC page listing the channels around the country showing the games. SNY in NY and CSN in NE has championship game. But most of them don't carry the semis.

The local CBS affiliate for my area is carrying the game yet not listed in the link. Many of the stations that are listed are doing the same thing that ch6 WRGB in Albany/Schenectady is doing. They are broadcasting this game on the digital 6-2 channel. For Time Warner viewers this is found in the local channel tier (12xx).

So for those who are searching don't give up until you check secondary over the air broadcast offerings. But 6-2 is NOT a sports channel. Games are typically offered on Friday and Saturday nights. This year there has been a mixture of college hockey and college basketball offered but it is very hit and miss in that it isn't uncommon for there to be no offerings on a given weekend evening.

(I has no idea there were games I could DVR until well into the season.)

marty

Jim Hyla
Here's the ECAC page listing the channels around the country showing the games. SNY in NY and CSN in NE has championship game. But most of them don't carry the semis.

The local CBS affiliate for my area is carrying the game yet not listed in the link. Many of the stations that are listed are doing the same thing that ch6 WRGB in Albany/Schenectady is doing. They are broadcasting this game on the digital 6-2 channel. For Time Warner viewers this is found in the local channel tier (12xx).

So for those who are searching don't give up until you check secondary over the air broadcast offerings. But 6-2 is NOT a sports channel. Games are typically offered on Friday and Saturday nights. This year there has been a mixture of college hockey and college basketball offered but it is very hit and miss in that it isn't uncommon for there to be no offerings on a given weekend evening.

(I has no idea there were games I could DVR until well into the season.)

Not in Syracuse, that I can find.

you can watch for free the ecac page with a little effort

upprdeck
you can watch for free the ecac page with a little effort

Do tell.

just watch in private mode, its a pain to open windows but nothing a simple shortcut can do for you.

Jason has to make a switch this year that wasn't even on the radar for me. None of the host schools are in the tourney. (Sorry Goofers, and Brown!)

RPI (Union?!?) is not the host in Albany. The ECAC is the host there. I think one puts Q in Albany because ECAC hosts, but Jason had them in Worcester initially. He did move them to Albany for Boston school attendance in Worcester which now has Providence, BC and Harvard. So I didn't see that as a move - the Friars were already there - but he did.

The other move he made was taking Michigan out of the St Paul bracket with St Cloud for a matchup with Notre Dame in Cincinnati. That surely makes sense (road trip for Jim, too).

The Hockey East conflicts made the bracket selection process simpler this year. So has Jason nailed it?

[www.uscho.com]

marty
Jason has to make a switch this year that wasn't even on the radar for me. None of the host schools are in the tourney. (Sorry Goofers, and Brown!)

RPI (Union?!?) is not the host in Albany. The ECAC is the host there. I think one puts Q in Albany because ECAC hosts, but Jason had them in Worcester initially. He did move them to Albany for Boston school attendance in Worcester which now has Providence, BC and Harvard. So I didn't see that as a move - the Friars were already there - but he did.

The other move he made was taking Michigan out of the St Paul bracket with St Cloud for a matchup with Notre Dame in Cincinnati. That surely makes sense (road trip for Jim, too).

The Hockey East conflicts made the bracket selection process simpler this year. So has Jason nailed it?

[www.uscho.com]

I'd be surprised if the committee came up with anything else. i did the brackets last night just before the St. Cloud game ended, and came up with exactly the same thing. The way Northeastern is playing, the North Dakota - Northeastern match-up looks like a real interesting first round game.

jkahn

marty
Jason has to make a switch this year that wasn't even on the radar for me. None of the host schools are in the tourney. (Sorry Goofers, and Brown!)

RPI (Union?!?) is not the host in Albany. The ECAC is the host there. I think one puts Q in Albany because ECAC hosts, but Jason had them in Worcester initially. He did move them to Albany for Boston school attendance in Worcester which now has Providence, BC and Harvard. So I didn't see that as a move - the Friars were already there - but he did.

The other move he made was taking Michigan out of the St Paul bracket with St Cloud for a matchup with Notre Dame in Cincinnati. That surely makes sense (road trip for Jim, too).

The Hockey East conflicts made the bracket selection process simpler this year. So has Jason nailed it?

[www.uscho.com]

I'd be surprised if the committee came up with anything else. i did the brackets last night just before the St. Cloud game ended, and came up with exactly the same thing. The way Northeastern is playing, the North Dakota - Northeastern match-up looks like a real interesting first round game.

Adam has an identical bracket at CHN.

From Quinnipiac to Albany, 140 miles. To Worcester, 90 miles. In neither case do fans have to get on a plane or drive 8-10 hours. Q's spring break ends today so the students will be back in class Monday. Check that: back on campus Monday.