Polls 2015-16

They start:

Preseason USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
September 21, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	34- 3-4	150	1
2	Boston College		34- 3-2	128	3
3	Wisconsin		29- 7-4	124	4
4	Harvard		        27- 6-3	101	2
5	Clarkson		24-11-3	84	7
6	North Dakota		22-12-3	64	8
7	Quinnipiac		26- 9-3	56	6
8	Boston University	25- 9-3	49	5
9	Bemidji State		21-17-1	25	10
10	Cornell		        19-11-3	18	9
Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Year Others receiving votes: Northeastern 11, 
Mercyhurst 6, Minnesota-Duluth 5, St. Lawrence 4.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Preseason USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
September 28, 2015
	Team	(First) 	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(19)	21-14-3	907	13
2	Minnesota-Duluth(12)	21-16-3	836	6
3	Boston University( 6)	28- 8-5	820	2
4	North Dakota	( 1)	29-10-3	766	3
5	Denver		        24-14-2	739	5
6	Minnesota State	( 1)	29- 8-3	699	7
7	Providence	( 6)	26-13-2	642	1
8	Harvard	        ( 1)	21-13-3	592	11
9	Minnesota	( 1)	23-13-3	530	12
10	Nebraska-Omaha		20-13-6	505	4
11	Miami	        ( 1)	25-14-1	461	8
12	Yale		        18-10-5	432	15
13	Michigan		22-15-0	417	20
14	Mass-Lowell     ( 2)	21-12-6	398	17
15	Michigan Tech		29-10-2	390	9
16	Bowling Green		23-11-5	316	18
17	St. Cloud State		20-19-1	236	10
18	Quinnipiac		23-12-4	228	14
19	St. Lawrence		20-14-3	156	NR
20	Colgate		        22-12-4	129	19
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 63, Notre Dame 45, Rochester Institute of Technology 39, 
Michigan State 37, Northeastern 31, Vermont 23, Penn State 19, New Hampshire 18, 
Ferris State 11, Wisconsin 5, Bemidji State 4, Union 3, Alaska 1, Brown 1, Dartmouth 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

And an article on the worth, or lack thereof, of the preseason polls.

The article is not very convincing because its only indicator of predictive validity is whether or not teams with a #1 poll ranking won the NC. Winning the NC means beating increasingly better teams. If we could assign teams some sort of power score with absolute certainty, and the difference in power scores maps exactly to the probability of one team beating another, then probabilities approach 50/50 as teams progress towards a NC. The probability of any particular team winning several games in a row to capture the NC would be less than 50%, even if it has the highest power scores and therefore the highest probability of winning the NC.

A much better proof or disproof of the worth of preseason poles would be a something like a correlation between pole rankings and subsequent winning percentage.

Also injuries play a major role in all teams' fortunes. So the teams in preseason are often not the ones playing April, even if they have the same names.

So I'll be late in posting this year, but....

Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 5, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Boston College	        469	(18)   14	21-14-3	1
2	Boston University	436	(5)	2	28- 8-5
3	U of Minnesota Duluth	422	(7)	7	21-16-3
4	U of North Dakota	373		3	29-10-3
5	Harvard University	348		11	21-13-3
6	University of Denver	318		5	24-14-2
7	Providence College	262	(3)	1	26-13-2
8	U of Minnesota	        242	(1)	10	23-13-3
9	Minnesota State U	234		6	29- 8-3
10	Miami University	198		8	25-14-1
11	U of Nebraska Omaha	160		4	20-13-6
12	Yale University	        144		15	18-10-5
13	University of Michigan	142		.	22-15-0
14	UMass Lowell	        116		.	21-12-6
15	Michigan Tech U   	 50		9	29-10-2
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 39, Quinnipiac University 36, 
St. Cloud State University 35, St. Lawrence University 23, University of Notre Dame 15, 
Colgate University 12, Robert Morris University 5, Northeastern University 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 05, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	2- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		2- 0-0	128	2
3	Wisconsin		2- 0-0	123	3
4	Harvard		        0- 0-0	99	4
5	Clarkson		2- 0-0	97	5
6	North Dakota		2- 0-0	64	6
7	Boston University	2- 0-0	57	8
8	Quinnipiac		1- 0-1	45	7
9	Bemidji State		3- 0-1	28	9
10	Cornell		        0- 0-0	15	10
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 12, Mercyhurst 5, Minnesota-Duluth 2.

Preseason USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
September 29, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll  Record
1	University of Minnesota	190	(19)	1	34- 3-4
2	Boston College	        162		4	34- 3-2
3	University of Wisconsin	155		3	29- 7-4
4	Harvard University	134		2	27- 6-3
5	Clarkson University	111		7	24-11-3
6	U of North Dakota	80		8	22-12-3
7	Quinnipiac University	78		6	27-10-3
8	Boston University	64		5	25- 9-3
9	Northeastern University	23		NR	14-17-5
T9 Bemidji State University 23 10 21-17-1 1 
Others receiving votes: Cornell University 14, Mercyhurst University 5, 
University of Minnesota-Duluth 3, Syracuse University 2, St. Lawrence University 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
October 6, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Minnesota	190	(19)	1	2-0-0
2	Boston College	        166		2	2-0-0
3	University of Wisconsin	152		3	2-0-0
4	Harvard University	131		4	0-0-0
5	Clarkson University	116		5	2-0-0
6	U of North Dakota	81		6	2-0-0
7	Quinnipiac University	66		7	1-0-1
8	Boston University	65		8	2-0-0
9	Bemidji State U  	37		T9	3-0-1
10	Northeastern University	25		T9	1-0-1
Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst University 7, Cornell University 5, 
University of Minnesota Duluth 2, St. Cloud State University 1, Syracuse University 1.

Wholly crap, all ECAC mens teams, except Dartmouth, got a vote.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 12, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(18)	1- 0-1	922	4
2	Providence	(13)	1- 0-1	870	7
3	Nebraska-Omaha	( 8)	2- 0-0	842	10
4	Boston College	( 7)	1- 1-0	832	1
5	Denver		        1- 1-0	652	5
6	Boston University	0- 1-0	647	3
7	Minnesota-Duluth	0- 1-0	645	2
8	Harvard	        ( 2)	0- 0-0	629	8
9	Mass-Lowell	( 2)	1- 0-0	555	14
10	Bowling Green		2- 0-0	521	16
11	Michigan		0- 0-0	415	13
12	St. Cloud State		2- 0-0	412	17
13	Yale		        0- 0-0	377	12
14	Minnesota State		0- 2-0	316	6
15	Minnesota		0- 1-0	304	9
16	Michigan Tech		0- 0-0	288	15
17	Quinnipiac		2- 0-0	284	18
18	Miami		        0- 1-1	234	11
19	St. Lawrence		2- 0-0	211	19
20	Vermont		        1- 0-0	128	NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan State 61, Bemidji State 60, Union 54, Northeastern 40, 
Notre Dame 40, Clarkson 24, Penn State 24, Princeton 19, New Hampshire 18, 
Robert Morris 17, Rensselaer 15, Colgate 10, Mercyhurst 7, Northern Michigan 6, 
Cornell 5, Maine 5, Massachusetts 5, Ferris State 3, Wisconsin 2, Brown 1.


USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 12, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	4- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		3- 0-0	128	2
2	Wisconsin		4- 0-0	128	3
4	Clarkson		5- 0-0	99	5
5	Harvard		        0- 0-0	89	4
6	North Dakota		4- 0-0	74	6
7	Quinnipiac		3- 0-1	55	8
8	Bemidji State		5- 0-1	50	9
9	Boston University	3- 1-0	23	7
10	Cornell		        0- 0-0	20	10
Others receiving votes: Mercyhurst 6, Northeastern 2, Lindenwood 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Our 35th in USCHO is our first appearance in either poll since Nov 10 2014. Mighty oaks from little acorns grow.

Jim Hyla
Wholly crap, all ECAC mens teams, except Dartmouth, got a vote.

I guess someone leaked a VERY convincing Cornell practice tape.

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Wholly crap, all ECAC mens teams, except Dartmouth, got a vote.

I guess someone leaked a VERY convincing Cornell practice tape.

But Princeton's tape must have been more convincing

scoop85

ugarte

Jim Hyla
Wholly crap, all ECAC mens teams, except Dartmouth, got a vote.

I guess someone leaked a VERY convincing Cornell practice tape.

But Princeton's tape must have been more convincing

Theory: one voter meant to vote Providence - the actual #2 - as 2nd on their ballot, and picked Princeton by mistake, giving PU 19 points.

— Without a Peer (@without_a_peer) October 12, 2015

LOL. I want to believe this is what happened.

USA Hockey is further behind than I am, but here they are:

(These are from the USA Hockey site, which is not as nicely put together as when USCHO posts the USA Poll. Oh well.)

Men's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week Two)

       School               First in parentheses       Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of North Dakota,     477 (16) 	4
2. 	Providence College,             422 (7) 	7
3. 	Boston College,                 409 (5) 	1
4. 	University of Nebraska Omaha,   364 (1) 	11
5. 	Harvard University,             323 (3) 	5
6. 	Boston University,              317 	        2
7. 	University of Minnesota Duluth, 302 (1) 	3
8. 	University of Denver,           244 	        6
9. 	UMass Lowell,                   201, (1) 	14
10. 	Bowling Green State University, 174 	        -
11. 	University of Michigan,         152 	        13
12. 	St. Cloud State University,     118 	        -
13. 	University of Minnesota,        117 	        8
14. 	Yale University,                 93 	        12
15. 	Minnesota State University,      92 	        9

Others Receiving Votes: Quinnipiac University, 67; Miami University, 59; 
St. Lawrence University, 49; Michigan Tech University, 32; University of Vermont, 29; 
University of Notre Dame, 7; Union College, 7; Michigan State University, 5; 
Northeastern University, 4; Penn State University, 4; Robert Morris University, 2; 
Northern Michigan University, 1.  


Women's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week Three)



      School  First votes in parentheses  Last Week's Rank 

1. 	University of Minnesota,(19) 190        1
2. 	University of Wisconsin,     161        3
3. 	Boston College,              157 	2
4. 	Harvard University,          125 	4
5. 	Clarkson University,         124 	5
6. 	University of North Dakota,   85 	6
7. 	Quinnipiac University,        76 	7
8. 	Bemidji State University,     60 	9
9. 	Boston University,            34 	8
10. 	Cornell University,           16 	—

Others Receiving Votes: Mercyhurst University, 12; Northeastern University, 4; University of Minnesota Duluth, 1.

9/12 ISN'T BAD.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 19, 2015
	Team	(     First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(16)	2- 0-2	931	1
2	Nebraska-Omaha	(15)	4- 0-0	927	3
3	Providence	(12)	2- 0-1	902	2
4	Boston College	( 4)	2- 1-0	829	4
5	Minnesota-Duluth( 1)	2- 1-0	730	7
6	Denver		        3- 1-0	726	5
7	Mass-Lowell	( 1)	3- 0-0	665	9
8	Boston University	1- 1-0	631	6
9	Harvard		        0- 0-0	580	8
9	St. Cloud State	( 1)	4- 0-0	580	12
11	Michigan		2- 0-0	525	11
12	Bowling Green		3- 1-1	419	10
13	Yale		        0- 0-0	387	13
14	Quinnipiac		3- 0-0	352	17
15	Miami		        2- 1-1	312	18
16	Michigan Tech		1- 1-0	205	16
17	St. Lawrence		3- 1-0	180	19
18	Union		        2- 0-2	145	NR
19	Merrimack		2- 0-0	70	NR
19	Minnesota		0- 3-0	70	15
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State 59, Minnesota State 54, Massachusetts 39, 
Clarkson 29, Western Michigan 27, Notre Dame 25, Penn State 24, Robert Morris 24, 
Vermont 19, Dartmouth 18, Michigan State 7, Bentley 5, Colgate 3, Cornell 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 19, 2015
	Team	   (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	6- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		6- 0-0	130	2
3	Wisconsin		6- 0-0	125	2
4	Clarkson		7- 0-0	103	4
5	Harvard		        0- 0-0	87	5
6	Bemidji State		6- 0-2	71	8
7	North Dakota		4- 1-1	55	6
8	Quinnipiac		3- 0-1	43	7
9	Cornell		        0- 0-0	25	10
10	Northeastern		4- 1-1	19	NR
Others receiving votes: Boston University 16, Penn State 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

We got a vote!!!

Dafatone
We got a vote!!!

Must have been all that offense in the R/W game.

USA Men's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week Three)

First-place votes in parentheses

	
                            School      Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of Nebraska Omaha, 474 (15) 	4
2. 	University of North Dakota,   464 (8) 	1
3. 	Providence College,           441 (9) 	2
4. 	Boston College,               376 	3
5. 	University of Minnesota Duluth328 	7
6. 	University of Denver,         319 	8
7. 	Boston University,            274 	6
8. 	Univ of Massachusetts Lowell, 273 (1) 	9
9. 	Harvard University,           273 	5
10. 	St. Cloud State University,   243 (1) 	12
11. 	University of Michigan,       177 	11
12. 	Bowling Green State University,91 	10
13. 	Quinnipiac University,         87 	—
14. 	Miami University,              85 	—
15. 	Yale University,               84 	14

Others Receiving Votes: St. Lawrence University, 24; Michigan Tech University, 18; 
Union College, 17; University of Massachusetts, 10; Merrimack College, 8; 
University of Minnesota, 6; Western Michigan University, 4; University of Notre Dame, 2; 
Penn State University, 1; University of Vermont, 1.


USA Women's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week Four)

First-place votes in parentheses

                           School  Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of Minnesota, 190(19)1
2. 	University of Wisconsin, 160 	2
3. 	Boston College,          159 	3
4. 	Clarkson University,     129 	5
5. 	Harvard University,      118 	4
6. 	Bemidji State University, 92 	8
7. 	Quinnipiac University,    66 	7
8. 	University of North Dakota65 	6
9. 	Northeastern University,  31 	—
10. 	Boston University,        18 	9

Others Receiving Votes: Cornell University, 10; University of Minnesota Duluth, 4; 
Penn State University, 2; Mercyhurst University, 1.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 26, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(23)	4- 0-2	959	1
2	Nebraska-Omaha	(12)	6- 0-0	941	2
3	Providence	(10)	4- 0-1	903	3
4	Boston College	( 4)	4- 1-0	858	4
5	Denver		        3- 1-0	734	6
6	Minnesota-Duluth	2- 1-2	690	5
7	Massachusetts-Lowell	3- 0-2	661	7
8	Boston University	2- 1-0	638	8
9	Quinnipiac	( 1)	6- 0-0	611	14
10	Michigan		3- 0-1	552	11
11	Harvard		        0- 0-0	524	9
12	Bowling Green		3- 1-1	442	12
13	Yale		        0- 0-0	378	13
14	St. Cloud State		4- 2-0	362	9
15	Miami		        3- 2-1	287	15
16	St. Lawrence		4- 2-0	231	17
17	Merrimack		2- 0-2	182	19
18	Michigan Tech		2- 2-0	135	16
19	Clarkson		5- 1-0	114	NR
20	Minnesota		2- 3-0	78	19
Others receiving votes: Union 67, Massachusetts 38, Penn State 35, 
Robert Morris 22, Minnesota State 21, Notre Dame 20, Vermont 6, Colgate 3, 
Mercyhurst 3, Bentley 2, Northern Michigan 2, Alaska-Anchorage 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 26, 2015
	Team	                     Points   (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Nebraska Omaha	483	(16)	1	6-0-0
2	University of North Dakota	478	(12)	2	4-0-2
3	Providence College	        434	(5)	3	4-0-1
4	Boston College	                387		4	4-1-0
5	University of Denver	        298		6	3-1-0
6	University of Minnesota Duluth	289		5	2-1-2
7	Boston University	        288		7	2-1-0
8	UMass Lowell	                274		8	3-0-2
9	Quinnipiac University	        252	(1)	13	6-0-0
10	University of Michigan	        239		11	3-0-1
11	Harvard University	        215		9	0-0-0
12	Bowling Green State University	102		12	3-1-1
13	St Cloud State University	88		10	4-2-0
14	Miami University	        57		14	3-2-1
15	Yale University	                56		15	0-0-0
Others receiving votes: Merrimack College 39, St. Lawrence University 32, Clarkson University 21, 
University of Massachusetts 16, University of Notre Dame 10, Union College 9, 
Penn State University 6 Michigan Tech University 5, University of Minnesota 1, Robert Morris University 1.


USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 26, 2015
	Team	       First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Minnesota	(15)	8- 0-0	150	1
2	Boston College		8- 0-0	128	2
3	Wisconsin		8- 0-0	127	3
4	Clarkson		9- 0-0	103	4
5	Quinnipiac		4- 0-1	71	8
6	Bemidji State		6- 2-2	64	6
7	North Dakota		5- 1-2	57	7
8	Harvard		        0- 1-0	55	5
9	Northeastern		6- 1-1	47	10
10	Dartmouth		1- 0-0	11	NR
Others receiving votes: Cornell 6, Connecticut 2, Colgate 1, 
Minnesota-Duluth 1, Princeton 1, St. Lawrence 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]


USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll 
                                   (First) Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of Minnesota, 188 (17) 	1
2. 	Boston College,          165 (2) 	3
3. 	University of Wisconsin, 160 	        2
4. 	Clarkson University,     131 	        4
5. 	Quinnipiac University,    89 	        5
6. 	Bemidji State University, 88 	        6
7. 	Harvard University,       75 	        5
8. 	University of North Dakota 62 	        8
9. 	Northeastern University,  61 	        9
10. 	Dartmouth College,        11 	        —

Others Receiving Votes: Cornell University, 6; Princeton University, 3; 
University of Connecticut, 2; University of Minnesota Duluth, 2; 
Boston University, 1; Colgate University, 1.

I put up the Women's USA Poll. We stayed at "11".

The Men re-enter the USCHO poll at #30.

They are still shut out of the USA Hockey poll.

We got as many votes as Colgate and more than Union. 9 ECAC teams with votes.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 02, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(27)	6- 0-2	975	1
2	Providence	(18)	6- 0-1	956	3
3	Boston College	( 4)	5- 1-0	896	4
4	Massachusetts-Lowell	4- 1-2	756	7
5	Quinnipiac	( 1)	6- 0-0	745	9
6	Minnesota-Duluth	3- 2-2	700	6
7	Harvard		        2- 0-0	666	11
8	Nebraska-Omaha		6- 2-0	664	2
9	Denver		        3- 3-0	539	5
10	St. Cloud State		6- 2-0	537	14
11	Boston University	3- 3-0	513	8
12	Yale		        2- 0-0	511	13
13	Michigan		4- 1-1	414	10
14	Bowling Green		4- 2-1	362	12
15	St. Lawrence		5- 2-1	317	16
16	Merrimack		3- 1-2	226	17
17	Clarkson		5- 1-0	193	19
18	Notre Dame		3- 1-2	92	NR
19	Miami		        3- 4-1	85	15
20	Robert Morris		3- 1-2	75	NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 71, Western Michigan 47, Minnesota State 42, 
Massachusetts 36, Minnesota 27, Penn State 27, Alaska-Anchorage 8, Mercyhurst 4, 
Rensselaer 4, Bentley 3, Colgate 3, Cornell 3, Ferris State 1, New Hampshire 1, Union 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 2, 2015
	Team	Points	                     (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of North Dakota	497	(21)	2	6-0-2
2	Providence College	        480	(11)	3	6-0-1
3	Boston College	                425		4	5-1-0
4	Quinnipiac University	        357	(2)	9	6-0-0
5	UMass Lowell	                334		8	4-1-2
6	Harvard University	        320		11	2-0-0
7	University of Minnesota Duluth	297		6	3-2-2
8	University of Nebraska Omaha	284		1	6-2-0
9	Yale University	                201		15	2-0-0
10	Boston University	        181		7	3-3-0
10	St Cloud State University	181		13	6-2-0
12	University of Denver	        168		5	3-3-0
13	University of Michigan	        135		10	4-1-1
14	St Lawrence University	         69		NR	5-2-1
15	Bowling Green State University	 49		12	4-2-1
Others receiving votes: Clarkson University 34, Merrimack College 34, University of Notre Dame 17, 
Western Michigan University 10, University of Massachusetts 3, Miami University 2, Robert Morris University 2.

Colgate got more votes than us. Six ECAC teams got votes and we weren't one of them.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 02, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	( 8)	10- 0-0	143	3
2	Boston College	( 7)	10- 0-0	139	2
3	Minnesota		9- 1-0	120	1
4	Clarkson		9- 0-2	107	4
5	North Dakota		6- 2-2	75	7
6	Bemidji State		8- 2-2	71	6
7	Quinnipiac		5- 1-1	53	5
8	Northeastern		7- 1-1	48	9
9	Harvard		        1- 1-1	45	8
10	Princeton		4- 0-0	16	NR
Others receiving votes: Dartmouth 4, Minnesota-Duluth 2, Colgate 1, St. Lawrence 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]


USA Women's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week Six)

First-place votes in parentheses
	
        School                           Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of Wisconsin, 176 (10) 3
2. 	Boston College,          175 (7)  2
3. 	University of Minnesota, 161 (2)  1
4. 	Clarkson University,     130 	  4
5. 	Bemidji State University, 90 	  6
6. 	University of North Dakota86 	  8
7. 	Quinnipiac University,    73 	  5
8. 	Northeastern University,  70 	  9
9. 	Harvard University,       50 	  7
10. 	Princeton University,     22 	—

Others Receiving Votes: Dartmouth College, 7; University of Minnesota Duluth, 3; 
Boston University, 1; Cornell University, 1.

Shows how much i've been paying attention to polls. When did they start listing 20 teams in the USCHO poll? That's pretty ridiculous.

KeithK
Shows how much i've been paying attention to polls. When did they start listing 20 teams in the USCHO poll? That's pretty ridiculous.

Not really, if you understand the purpose of polls differently. They're designed to garner readership. The more teams in the poll, the more fans who read the polls.

I saw the bowling green . rit game.. one game sample but RIT was by far the better team all over the ice that game. they are not a top 15 team.

didnt robert morris go into michigan and shut them out and blow a 3-1 lead late in the other game? if mich gets votes robert morris probably should get more than 2.

KeithK
Shows how much i've been paying attention to polls. When did they start listing 20 teams in the USCHO poll? That's pretty ridiculous.

Since 16 teams are in the NCAA tournament I don't see a problem listing 20 in the poll.

marty

KeithK
Shows how much i've been paying attention to polls. When did they start listing 20 teams in the USCHO poll? That's pretty ridiculous.

Since 16 teams are in the NCAA tournament I don't see a problem listing 20 in the poll.

With the autobids you never have that many spots available. 15 seems more than sufficient to me. Swampy's comment is right, of course. But I don't have to like it.

KeithK

marty

KeithK
Shows how much i've been paying attention to polls. When did they start listing 20 teams in the USCHO poll? That's pretty ridiculous.

Since 16 teams are in the NCAA tournament I don't see a problem listing 20 in the poll.

With the autobids you never have that many spots available. 15 seems more than sufficient to me. Swampy's comment is right, of course. But I don't have to like it.

This is crabby even for eLynah. The poll includes "others receiving votes" so it isn't like we didn't know who 16-20 were before. This poll includes the top 35.

Just posted the USA Women's Poll. We got 1 vote.

ugarte
This is crabby even for eLynah.

I'm in a crabby mood this year.

Men move to 23, their highest since 10/27/14.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 09, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Providence	(29)	6- 0-1	962	2
2	Boston College	(17)	8- 1-0	941	3
3	North Dakota	( 1)	7- 1-2	859	1
4	Quinnipiac	( 3)	8- 0-0	849	5
5	Massachusetts-Lowell	6- 1-2	813	4
6	Nebraska-Omaha		8- 2-0	744	8
7	Harvard		        3- 0-1	723	7
8	Denver		        5- 3-0	575	9
9	St. Cloud State		6- 2-0	574	10
10	Yale		        3- 0-1	539	12
11	Boston University	5- 3-0	505	11
12	Michigan		4- 1-1	426	13
13	Minnesota-Duluth	3- 4-2	415	6
14	Merrimack		5- 1-2	366	16
15	Bowling Green		4- 2-3	274	14
15	St. Lawrence		6- 3-1	274	15
17	Miami		        5- 4-1	176	19
18	Notre Dame		4- 2-2	153	18
19	Clarkson		5- 2-1	95	17
20	Michigan Tech		5- 3-0	79	NR
Others receiving votes: Massachusetts 46, Robert Morris 24, Cornell 23, 
Minnesota State 21, Minnesota 11, Alaska-Anchorage 9, Rensselaer 8, 
Penn State 7, Colgate 3, Western Michigan 3, Michigan State 2, Wisconsin 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 9, 2015
	Team	             Points   (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Providence College	485	(18)	2	6-0-1
2	Boston College	        463	(10)	3	8-1-0
3	Quinnipiac University	425	(5)	4	8-0-0
4	Univer of North Dakota	413	(1)	1	7-1-2
5	UMass Lowell	        359		5	6-1-2
6	Harvard University	352		6	3-0-1
7	Univer Nebraska Omaha	306		8	8-2-0
8	Yale University	        235		9	3-0-1
9	St Cloud State Univer	230		10	6-2-0
10	University of Denver	199		12	5-3-0
11	Boston University	169		10	5-3-0
12	University of Michigan	134		13	4-1-1
13	Merrimack College	 86		NR	5-1-2
13	Univer Minnesota Duluth	 86		7	3-4-2
15	St Lawrence University	 54		14	6-3-1
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 25, University of Notre Dame 18, 
Miami University 12, University of Massachusetts 7, Michigan Tech University 7, 
Clarkson University 5, Western Michigan University 5, Cornell University 5, Robert Morris University 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 09, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	( 8)	10- 0-0	143	1
2	Boston College	( 7)	11- 0-0	140	2
3	Minnesota		9- 1-0	122	3
4	Clarkson		10- 1-2	88	4
5	Bemidji State		10- 2-2	83	6
6	North Dakota		6- 2-2	77	5
7	Northeastern		8- 1-1	61	8
8	Quinnipiac		6- 1-2	47	7
9	Harvard		        3- 1-1	46	9
10	Princeton		5- 1-0	13	10
Others receiving votes: Dartmouth 3, Colgate 2.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]
USA Women's
	
        School                        Last Week's Rank
1. 	University of Wisconsin, 182(12)1
2. 	Boston College,          176 (7)2
3. 	University of Minnesota, 155 	3
4. 	Bemidji State University,118 	5
5. 	Clarkson University,     109 	4
6. 	University of North Dakota98 	6
7. 	Northeastern University,  73 	8
8. 	Quinnipiac University,    60 	7
9. 	Harvard University,       53 	9
10. 	Princeton University,     13 	10

Others Receiving Votes: Dartmouth College, 5; Colgate University, 1; 
University of Minnesota Duluth, 1; Robert Morris University, 1.
.

It will be interesting to see where the polls put us tomorrow. I figure with us at 4 PWR but at 23 last week, let's say they split the difference and put us at 13/14.

Trotsky
It will be interesting to see where the polls put us tomorrow. I figure with us at 4 PWR but at 23 last week, let's say they split the difference and put us at 13/14.

Who do we displace? My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.
Michigan Tech (20) split with Bowling Green (15)
Clarkson (19) lost to St.L (15)[sic]
Notre Dame (18) beat and tied Northeastern
Miami (17) lost twice to North Dakota (3)
Bowling Green (15) split with Michigan Tech (2)
St. Lawrence (15) beat Clarkson (19)
Merrimack (14) beat Massachusetts and tied New Hampshire.
Minnesota-Duluth (13) split with Denver (8) if you count their 3-on-3 OT win

David Harding
Who do we displace? My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.

After New Year's definitely. But in the first couple months there can be big moves as the voters start feeling stupid that they are wildly divergent from the standings and PWR.

My impression (with no empirical analysis) is that PWR exerts gravity on the polls.

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls until 1/1.

Trotsky

David Harding
Who do we displace? My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.

After New Year's definitely. But in the first couple months there can be big moves as the voters start feeling stupid that they are wildly divergent from the standings and PWR.

My impression (with no empirical analysis) is that PWR exerts gravity on the polls.

I think David has it right. It's early enough in the season that PWR is pretty meaningless, small sample size and all. Heck, CHN doesn't even caculate it yet. So voters will feel comfortable with ignoring it. By the midpoint in the season there's enough games to start to see how things are really playing out and PWR begins to stabilize. At that point the polls will begin to converge toward the ratings.

Trotsky
In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls until 1/1.

In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls. But whatever.

KeithK
In all honesty, they shouldn't even do polls.

I'm right there with you.

I'll post them later, but we're 18.

David Harding

Trotsky
It will be interesting to see where the polls put us tomorrow. I figure with us at 4 PWR but at 23 last week, let's say they split the difference and put us at 13/14.

Who do we displace? My impression is that rising in the polls is more about teams immediately above you slipping.
Michigan Tech (20) split with Bowling Green (15)
Clarkson (19) lost to St.L (15)[sic]
Notre Dame (18) beat and tied Northeastern
Miami (17) lost twice to North Dakota (3)
Bowling Green (15) split with Michigan Tech (2)
St. Lawrence (15) beat Clarkson (19)
Merrimack (14) beat Massachusetts and tied New Hampshire.
Minnesota-Duluth (13) split with Denver (8) if you count their 3-on-3 OT win

18, jumping over MTU and Clarkson.

[www.uscho.com]

16 in USA Hockey.

Trotsky
16 in USA Hockey.

At least ahead of a 3-5-3 team.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 16, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Providence	(17)	6- 0-3	933	1
2	Boston College	(14)	9- 1-0	926	2
3	Quinnipiac	(12)	10- 0-0	913	4
4	North Dakota	( 7)	9- 1-2	891	3
5	Mass-Lowell		8- 1-2	791	5
6	Nebraska-Omaha		8- 2-0	735	6
7	St. Cloud State		8- 2-0	671	9
8	Harvard		        4- 1-1	630	7
9	Denver		        6- 3-1	593	8
10	Boston University	5- 3-2	534	11
11	Yale		        4- 1-1	502	10
12	Michigan		5- 1-1	475	12
13	Merrimack		6- 1-3	395	14
14	St. Lawrence		7- 3-1	351	15
15	Bowling Green		5- 3-3	257	15
16	Notre Dame		5- 2-3	215	18
17	Minnesota-Duluth	3- 5-3	173	13
18	Cornell		        5- 1-0	164	NR
19	Michigan Tech		6- 4-0	112	20
20	Clarkson		5- 3-1	56	19
Others receiving votes: Miami 50, Penn State 36, Robert Morris 25, 
Massachusetts 24, Rensselaer 21, Minnesota State 20, 
Alaska-Anchorage 4, Wisconsin 2, Minnesota 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 16, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Providence College	473	(12)	1	6-0-3
2	Qunnipiac University	459	(12)	3	10-0-0
3	Boston College	        455	(7)	2	9-1-0
4	Univer of North Dakota	417	(3)	4	9-1-2
5	UMass Lowell	        372		5	8-1-2
6	Univer of Nebraska Omaha327		7	8-2-0
7	St Cloud State Univer	290		9	8-2-0
8	Harvard University	263		6	4-1-1
9	University of Denver	224		10	6-3-1
10	Yale University	        199		8	4-1-1
11	Boston University	187		11	5-3-2
12	University of Michigan	145		12	5-1-1
13	Merrimack College	86		13	6-1-3
14	St Lawrence University	62		15	7-3-1
15	University of Notre Dame34		NR	5-2-3
Others receiving votes: Cornell University 29, University of Minnesota Duluth 19, 
Bowling Green State University 11, University of Massachusetts 1, 
Michigan Tech University 1, Robert Morris University 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 16, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(10)	12- 0-0	145	1
2	Boston College	( 5)	14- 0-0	137	2
3	Minnesota		11- 1-0	123	3
4	Clarkson		13- 1-2	100	4
5	Northeastern		10- 1-1	76	7
6	Bemidji State		10- 4-2	70	5
7	North Dakota		7- 3-2	53	6
8	Quinnipiac		7- 1-3	52	8
9	Harvard		        5- 1-1	50	9
10	Princeton		5- 2-1	16	10
Others receiving votes: Colgate 2, Dartmouth 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
November 10, 2015
	Team	Points	            (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	182	(12)	1	10-0-0
2	Boston College	        176	(7)	2	11-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	155		3	9-1-0
4	Bemidji State University118		5	10-2-2
5	Clarkson University	109		4	10-1-2
6	Univer of North Dakota	98		6	6-2-2
7	Northeastern University	73		8	8-1-1
8	Quinnipiac University	60		7	6-1-2
9	Harvard University	53		9	3-1-1
10	Princeton University	13		10	5-1-0
Others receiving votes: Dartmouth College 5, Colgate University 1, 
University of Minnesota Duluth 1, Robert Morris University 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

This weekend's results for the USCHO Top 20 (with record entering weekend). Cornell ought to vault over Notre Dame, but that may be it.

 1	Providence	(17)	6- 0-3	WW
 2	Boston College	(14)	9- 1-0	-W
 3	Quinnipiac	(12)   10- 0-0	TT
 4	North Dakota	( 7)	9- 1-2	WL
 5	Mass-Lowell		8- 1-2	TW
 6	Nebraska-Omaha		8- 2-0	TW
 7	St. Cloud State		8- 2-0	LW
 8	Harvard		        4- 1-1	--
 9	Denver		        6- 3-1	TW
10	Boston University	5- 3-2	WL
11	Yale		        4- 1-1	TW
12	Michigan		5- 1-1	LW
13	Merrimack		6- 1-3	-T
14	St. Lawrence		7- 3-1	WT
15	Bowling Green		5- 3-3	WW
16	Notre Dame		5- 2-3	TL
17	Minnesota-Duluth	3- 5-3	WW
18	Cornell		        5- 1-0	TW
19	Michigan Tech		6- 4-0	-W
20	Clarkson		5- 3-1	TL

To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

Trotsky
To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

ugarte

Trotsky
To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

I was starting to feel for them until I looked at our next 7 games.

ugarte

Trotsky
To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

Well, would they feel better if it were a neutral ice series in Denver? That long bus ride up from the Springs is exhausting. (Sorry, feeling snarky this morning.)

KeithK

ugarte

Trotsky
To 16 in USCHO, as Minn-Duluth's sweep is an invitation for them to drop below us.

For a second a three point road weekend from the infirmary, including against a tough Yale team, might get more credit than two over 0-12 Colorado College. But UMD outscored CC 11-0 in Denver. Weird early season voting strikes again.

Also, what happened to Colorado College. Jeez. EDIT: except for two losses to UMass on opening weekend, CC's schedule has been BRUTAL. UMD was the *lowest* ranked team they've played since the UMass games.

Well, would they feel better if it were a neutral ice series in Denver? That long bus ride up from the Springs is exhausting. (Sorry, feeling snarky this morning.)

Shaddap, you.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 23, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Providence	(36)	8- 0-3	983	1
2	Boston College	( 9)	10- 1-0	936	2
3	Quinnipiac	( 5)	11- 0-2	901	3
4	Massachusetts-Lowell	 9- 1-3	816	5
5	North Dakota		10- 2-2	795	4
6	Nebraska-Omaha		9- 2-1	745	6
7	St. Cloud State		9- 3-0	716	7
8	Harvard		        4- 1-1	640	8
9	Denver		        7- 3-2	565	9
10	Yale		        5- 1-2	516	11
11	Boston University	6- 4-2	474	10
12	Michigan		6- 2-1	468	12
13	Merrimack		6- 1-4	402	13
14	St. Lawrence		8- 3-2	378	14
15	Bowling Green		7- 3-3	272	15
16	Cornell		        6- 1-1	222	18
17	Minnesota-Duluth	5- 5-3	191	17
18	Notre Dame		5- 3-4	163	16
19	Michigan Tech		7- 4-1	146	19
20	Penn State		7- 2-3	69	NR
Others receiving votes: Rensselaer 27, Massachusetts 22, Robert Morris 21, Clarkson 14, 
Minnesota State 11, Miami 4, Alaska-Anchorage 2, Michigan State 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]


USA Men's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week 8)

First-place votes in parentheses

Rank    School                        Last Week's Rank
1. 	Providence College,     (18)  489 1
2. 	Boston College,          (6)  463 3
3. 	Quinnipiac University,  (10)  462 2
4. 	UMass Lowell,                 384 5
5. 	University of North Dakota,   370 4
6. 	University of Nebraska Omaha, 326 6
7. 	St. Cloud State University,   307 7
8. 	Harvard University,           276 8
9. 	Yale University,              210 10
10. 	University of Denver,         190 9
11. 	University of Michigan,       146 12
12. 	Boston University,            137 11
13. 	Merrimack College,            135 13
14. 	St. Lawrence University,       90 14
15. 	Cornell University,            51 -

Others Receiving Votes:  Bowling Green State University, 19; University of Notre Dame, 9; 
University of Minnesota Duluth, 8; Michigan Tech University, 4; 
University of Massachusetts, 2; Penn State University, 1; Robert Morris University, 1.

Pairwise Cornell is 8. I'll think about posting that starting in January.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 23, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(12)	14- 0-0	147	1
2	Boston College	( 3)	15- 0-0	136	2
3	Minnesota		13- 1-0	122	3
4	Northeastern		11- 2-1	87	5
5	Quinnipiac		9- 1-3	82	8
6	Clarkson		14- 2-2	77	4
7	Bemidji State		12- 4-2	72	6
8	Harvard		         6- 1-1	51	9
9	North Dakota		 8- 4-2	36	7
10	Colgate		         7- 2-5	7	NR
Others receiving votes: Princeton 3, Minnesota-Duluth 2, St. Lawrence 2, Boston University 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
November 24, 2015
	Team	              Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	182	(13)	1	14-0-0
2	Boston College	        175	(6)	2	15-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	156		3	13-1-0
4	Northeastern University	118		5	11-2-1
5	Quinnipiac University	105		7	9-1-3
6	Bemidji State University 95		6	12-4-2
7	Clarkson University	 92		4	14-2-2
8	Harvard University	 56		T8	6-1-1
9	Univer of North Dakota	 47		T8	8-4-2
10	Univer Minnesota Duluth	  6		NR	5-9-0
Others receiving votes: Princeton University 4, St. Lawrence University 4, 
Boston University 2, Colgate University 2, Dartmouth College 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Up one spot to 15 in the USCHO poll.

15 is the highest we have been in USCHO since 10/6/14.

Trotsky
Up one spot to 15 in the USCHO poll.

15 is the highest we have been in USCHO since 10/6/14.

Wow, that run from '02 to '06.

BearLover

Trotsky
Up one spot to 15 in the USCHO poll.

15 is the highest we have been in USCHO since 10/6/14.

Wow, that run from '02 to '06.

I just wish I could find data from the 60s and 70s. I suspect we were in the top 10 for 15 straight years, and in the top 5 for much of that time.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 30, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Providence	(34)	9- 0-3	978	1
2	Boston College	(10)	12- 1-0	936	2
3	Quinnipiac	( 6)	13- 0-2	920	3
4	North Dakota		12- 2-2	813	5
5	Mass-Lowell		10- 1-4	779	4
6	Nebraska-Omaha		11- 2-1	741	6
7	St. Cloud State		11- 3-0	727	7
8	Harvard		         6- 1-1	675	8
9	Denver		         7- 3-2	555	9
10	Yale		         5- 2-2	496	10
11	Boston University	 7- 4-3	475	11
12	Michigan		 7- 2-2	460	12
13	St. Lawrence		 8- 3-2	398	14
14	Bowling Green		 9- 3-3	320	15
15	Cornell		         6- 1-2	316	16
16	Merrimack		 6- 2-4	276	13
17	Michigan Tech		 9- 4-1	166	19
17	Minnesota-Duluth	 5- 5-3	166	17
19	Penn State		 8- 2-3	114	20
20	Notre Dame		 6- 4-4	80	18
Others receiving votes: Rensselaer 54, Robert Morris 22, 
Minnesota State 20, Clarkson 8, Miami 5.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 30, 2015
	Team	               Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Providence College	496	(21)	1	9-0-3
2	Quinnipiac University	472	(11)	3	13-0-2
3	Boston College	        450	(2)	2	12-1-0
4	Univer of North Dakota	383		5	12-2-2
5	UMass Lowell	        369		4	10-1-4
6	Univer Nebraska Omaha	329		6	11-2-1
7	St Cloud State Univery	323		7	11-3-0
8	Harvard University	290		8	6-1-1
9	University of Denver	203		10	7-3-2
10	Yale University	        198		9	5-2-2
11	University of Michigan	155		11	7-2-2
12	Boston University	146		12	7-4-3
13	St Lawrence University	94		14	8-3-2
14	Cornell University	93		15	6-1-2
15	Bowling Green State 	37		NR	9-3-3
Others receiving votes: Merrimack College 31, University of Minnesota Duluth 4, 
Michigan Tech University 3, University of Notre Dame 3, Robert Morris University 1.


USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 30, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(11)	16- 0-0	146	1
2	Boston College	( 4)	17- 0-0	138	2
3	Minnesota		15- 1-0	121	3
4	Quinnipiac		11- 1-3	98	5
5	Clarkson		14- 2-2	83	6
6	Bemidji State		12- 4-2	67	7
7	Harvard		         8- 2-1	63	8
8	Northeastern		11- 4-1	62	4
9	North Dakota		9- 5-2	25	9
10	Minnesota-Duluth		6-10-0	8	NR
Others receiving votes: Colgate 7, Princeton 4, St. Lawrence 3. 

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
December 1, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	183	(12)	1	16-0-0
2	Boston College	        176	(7)	2	17-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	154		3	15-1-0
4	Quinnipiac University	123		5	11-1-3
5	Bemidji State University 94		6	12-4-2
6	Clarkson University	 91		7	14-2-2
7	Northeastern University	 87		4	11-4-1
8	Harvard University	 77		8	8-2-1
9	Univer of North Dakota	 28		9	9-5-2
10	Univer Minnesota Duluth	 19		10	6-10-0
Others receiving votes: Colgate University 4, Princeton University 4, 
Boston University 2, St. Lawrence University 2, Dartmouth College 1.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

I wish the polls would publish low and high per team, too.

It will be interesting to see where we end up. The next 10 teams above us didn't help their status.

Jim Hyla
It will be interesting to see where we end up. The next 10 teams above us didn't help their status.

We ought to move ahead of Denver, Yale and SLU, so I'll say 12th in USCHO. We're 7th in PWR so for the voters who use that it should also exert a pull since we are currrently "undervalued."

Lowell had a nightmare weekend -- they will drop like a stone, but I doubt we'll get above them.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
It will be interesting to see where we end up. The next 10 teams above us didn't help their status.

We ought to move ahead of Denver, Yale and SLU, so I'll say 12th in USCHO. We're 7th in PWR so for the voters who use that it should also exert a pull since we are currrently "undervalued."

Lowell had a nightmare weekend -- they will drop like a stone, but I doubt we'll get above them.

UML's #8, we're #10.

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

First time in the top 10 since 3 Feb 2014, when we broke in for one week. Prior to that the previous time was 5 Nov 2012. We have not finished a season in the top 10 since 2010.

Beeeej

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

Of course, if we win our next two ....

Beeeej

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

You're very optimistic about our result in the Providence game, eh!

jkahn

Beeeej

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

You're very optimistic about our result in the Providence game, eh!

It's Monday. I can't brain.

Beeeej

jkahn

Beeeej

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

You're very optimistic about our result in the Providence game, eh!

It's Monday. I can't brain.

Thanks Eeeeeyore.

Swampy

Trotsky

Jim Hyla
It will be interesting to see where we end up. The next 10 teams above us didn't help their status.

We ought to move ahead of Denver, Yale and SLU, so I'll say 12th in USCHO. We're 7th in PWR so for the voters who use that it should also exert a pull since we are currrently "undervalued."

Lowell had a nightmare weekend -- they will drop like a stone, but I doubt we'll get above them.

UML's #8, we're #10.

USA Hockey/USA Today has the same Top 10, only we're much closer in vote totals to #9 Michigan than in USCHO. The only difference in the Top 15 is BU & Denver are flipped at 11/12.

Okay, okay. You've probably done all the talking about this, but here's the full results anyway.

It looks like we made the biggest jump up and Yale matched our change, but going down.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 07, 2015
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Providence	(39)	11- 0-3	986	1
2	Quinnipiac	(10)	15- 0-2	951	3
3	Boston College		13- 1-1	898	2
4	North Dakota	( 1)	14- 2-2	867	4
5	Nebraska-Omaha		12- 3-1	771	6
6	St. Cloud State		12- 4-0	742	7
7	Harvard		        6- 1-3	669	8
8	Massachusetts-Lowell    10- 3-4	629	5
9	Michigan		8- 2-3	555	12
10	Cornell		        8- 1-2	514	15
11	Denver		        7- 5-2	459	9
12	Boston University	8- 5-3	455	11
13	St. Lawrence		9- 4-2	363	13
14	Bowling Green		9- 3-5	325	14
15	Yale		        5- 4-2	300	10
16	Penn State		10- 2-3	276	19
17	Minnesota-Duluth	7- 5-3	252	17
18	Notre Dame		8- 4-4	182	20
19	Merrimack		6- 4-4	141	16
20	Minnesota State		8- 6-4	60	NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 46, Robert Morris 23, 
Rensselaer 21, Holy Cross 7, Alaska-Anchorage 4, Michigan State 4.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 7, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Providence College	496	(20)	1	11-0-3
2	Quinnipiac University	486	(14)	2	15-0-2
3	Boston College	        426		3	13-1-1
4	Univer North Dakota	418		4	14-2-2
5	Univer Nebraska Omaha	347		6	12-3-1
6	St Cloud State Univer	343		7	12-4-0
7	Harvard University	284		8	6-1-3
8	UMass Lowell	        246		5	10-3-4
9	University of Michigan	210		11	8-2-3
10	Cornell University	200		14	8-1-2
11	Boston University	148		12	8-5-3
12	University of Denver	145		9	7-5-2
13	St Lawrence University	 94		13	9-4-2
14	Bowling Green State  	 67		15	9-3-5
15	Yale University	         59		10	5-4-2
Others receiving votes: Penn State University 44, University of Minnesota Duluth 42, 
University of Notre Dame 11, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 10, Robert Morris University 3.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 07, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Wisconsin	(14)	18- 0-0	149	1
2	Boston College	( 1)	19- 0-0	136	2
3	Minnesota		15- 3-0	118	3
4	Quinnipiac		13- 1-3	107	4
5	Bemidji State		13- 5-2	73	6
5	Clarkson		15- 3-2	73	5
7	Northeastern		13- 4-1	58	8
8	Harvard		         8- 4-1	40	7
9	North Dakota		10- 6-2	32	9
10	Colgate		        10- 3-5	21	NR
Others receiving votes: Princeton 14, Minnesota-Duluth 4.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Women's College Hockey Poll
December 8, 2015
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	University of Wisconsin	189	(18)	1	18-0-0
2	Boston College	        172	(1)	2	19-0-0
3	University of Minnesota	150		3	15-3-0
4	Quinnipiac University	135		4	13-1-3
5	Bemidji State Univer    97		5	13-5-2
6	Northeastern University	84		7	13-4-1
7	Clarkson University	76		6	15-3-2
8	Harvard University	53		8	8-4-1
9	Univer of North Dakota	50		9	10-6-2
10	Princeton University	16		NR	9-4-1
Others receiving votes: Colgate University 13, University of Minnesota Duluth 10.

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Beeeej

Swampy
UML's #8, we're #10.

Nice to get the respect, as little as it actually counts for in the real world. And luckily, our next two games are against #1 and (probably) #3 (unless unranked tOSU pulls off a big upset), so at least if we lose those, we shouldn't tank too badly in the voting afterward.

No lose = good news.

Michigan lost to Minnesota this weekend, so we move past them into 9th in both polls. I'll let Jim do his formatting work, if he wants.

Hey, our next opponent got 82 of 84 first place votes. Is that good? Having the chance to pop the cork for the 1970 team's Champagne Mercury Morris-style is a good challenge.

RichH
No lose = good news.

Michigan lost to Minnesota this weekend, so we move past them into 9th in both polls. I'll let Jim do his formatting work, if he wants.

Hey, our next opponent got 82 of 84 first place votes. Is that good? Having the chance to pop the cork for the 1970 team's Champagne Mercury Morris-style is a good challenge.

Here we are.

As of right now, we're 7 in PWR at both CHN and USCHO. Krach is 5 in both.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 14, 2015
	Team	     (First)   Record Points Last Poll
1	Providence	(48)	12- 0-3	996	1
2	North Dakota	( 1)	16- 2-2	932	4
3	Quinnipiac	( 1)	15- 1-2	880	2
4	Boston College		13- 2-1	798	3
5	St. Cloud State		14- 4-0	793	6
6	Nebraska-Omaha		12- 3-1	779	5
7	Harvard		         6- 1-3	696	7
8	Massachusetts-Lowell	10- 3-4	629	8
9	Cornell		         8- 1-2	564	10
10	Michigan		 9- 3-3	532	9
11	Boston University	 9- 6-3	476	12
12	Bowling Green		11- 3-5	428	14
13	Yale		         6- 4-2	368	15
14	Penn State		11- 2-3	336	16
15	St. Lawrence		10- 5-2	320	13
16	Notre Dame		 9- 4-4	306	18
17	Denver		         7- 7-2	254	11
18	Minnesota State		10- 6-4	124	20
19	Minnesota-Duluth	 7- 7-3	88	17
20	Merrimack		 6- 4-5	84	19
Others receiving votes: Rensselaer 50, Michigan Tech 36, 
Holy Cross 14, Robert Morris 11, Minnesota 6.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 14, 2015
	Team	              Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Providence College	510	(34)	1	12-0-3
2	Quinnipiac University	460		2	15-1-2
3	Univer of North Dakota	446		4	16-2-2
4	Boston College	        376		3	13-2-1
5	St Cloud State Univer	369		6	14-4-2
6	Univer of Nebraska Omaha338		5	12-3-1
7	Harvard University	323		7	6-1-3
8	UMass Lowell	        251		8	10-3-4
9	Cornell University	232		10	8-1-2
10	University of Michigan	200		9	9-3-3
11	Boston University	142		11	9-6-3
12	Yale University	        110		15	6-4-2
13	Bowling Green State  	 99		14	11-3-5
14	St Lawrence University	 76		13	10-5-2
15	Penn State University	 75		NR	11-2-3
Others receiving votes: University of Denver 32, University of Notre Dame 27, 
Minnesota State 7, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 6, University of Minnesota Duluth 1.

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 14, 2015
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(14)	20- 0-0	149	2
2	Wisconsin	( 1)	18- 1-1	136	1
3	Minnesota		15- 3-0	120	3
4	Quinnipiac		14- 1-3	105	4
5	Bemidji State		13- 5-2	75	5
6	Clarkson		15- 3-2	72	5
7	North Dakota		11- 6-3	55	9
8	Northeastern		13- 4-1	49	7
9	Harvard		         8- 4-1	36	8
10	Colgate		        10- 3-5	14	10
Others receiving votes: Princeton 12, Minnesota-Duluth 2.


Read more: [www.uscho.com]

Colgate women tied with Harvard and we're no where to be found.

I don't understand why USA Women's poll comes out 1 day later.

USA Women's Poll
(2015-16 Season, Week 12)

First-place votes in parentheses 
Rank    School                            Last Week's Rank
1. 	Boston College,           187 (16) 2
2. 	University of Wisconsin,  172 (2)  2
3. 	University of Minnesota,  153 (1)  3
4. 	Quinnipiac University,    134 	   4
5. 	Bemidji State University, 102 	   5
6. 	Clarkson University,       83 	   7
7. 	Northeastern University,   74 	   6
8. 	University of North Dakota,64 	   9
9. 	Harvard University,        45 	   8
10. 	Princeton University,      15 	  10

Others Receiving Votes: Colgate University, 9; University of Minnesota Duluth, 7.

RichH
No lose = good news.

Michigan lost to Minnesota this weekend, so we move past them into 9th in both polls. I'll let Jim do his formatting work, if he wants.

Hey, our next opponent got 82 of 84 first place votes. Is that good? Having the chance to pop the cork for the 1970 team's Champagne Mercury Morris-style is a good challenge.

The 1970 team was unbeaten and untied. So in that sense the record is already safe for another year.

But I agree with your sentiment. I'm going to buy two bottles: one for protecting the record on 12/28, and one for winning the tournament the next day. Should the hockey gods be unkind, at this time of year I'm sure I'll find another occasion to use the bottle(s).

Here's to popping the cork twice in 2015!

And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance; Cornell remains at 9th in both polls. Michigan leap-frogs us, but UMass-Lowell falls from 8-10. Providence drops to #3 after 2 OT losses to Ivys, and BC drops from #3 to #7. North Dakota and Quinnipiac split the #1 positions. Five ECAC teams in the top 15.

RichH
And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance

Wonder how high we would have climbed with just a simple win? 6 maybe? Oh well. "The only poll that matters..."

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 04, 2016
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(36)	18- 2-2	976	2
2	Quinnipiac	(14)	17- 1-3	958	3
3	Providence		13- 2-3	866	1
4	St. Cloud State		16- 4-0	825	5
5	Harvard		         8- 1-3	789	7
6	Nebraska-Omaha		14- 3-1	786	6
7	Boston College		13- 4-1	697	4
8	Michigan		11- 3-3	623	10
9	Cornell		         9- 2-2	568	9
10	Massachusetts-Lowell	11- 4-4	562	8
11	Boston University	 9- 6-3	482	11
12	Yale		         6- 4-2	412	13
13	St. Lawrence		10- 5-2	348	15
14	Penn State		12- 3-3	336	14
15	Notre Dame		9- 4-6	319	16
16	Bowling Green		12- 5-5	301	12
17	Denver		         7- 7-4	195	17
18	Minnesota State		10- 6-4	156	18
19	Minnesota-Duluth	7- 7-3	87	19
20	Rensselaer		11- 7-3	81	NR
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 49, Michigan Tech 33, Holy Cross 22, Union 21, Merrimack 8.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 4, 2016
	Team	              Points	(First)	Last Poll  Record
1	Quinnipiac University	490	(17)	2	17-1-3
2	Univer of North Dakota	484	(16)	3	18-2-2
3	Providence College	420		1	13-2-3
4	Harvard University	395	(1)	7	8-1-3
5	St Cloud State Univer	384		5	16-4-3
6	Univer of Nebraska Omaha357		6	14-3-1
7	Boston College	        289		4	13-4-1
8	University of Michigan	266		10	11-3-3
9	Cornell University	234		9	9-2-2
10	UMass Lowell	        201		8	11-4-4
11	Boston University	147		11	9-6-3
12	Yale University	        121		12	6-4-2
13	St Lawrence University	100		14	10-5-2
14	University of Notre Dame69		NR	9-4-6
15	Penn State University	58		15	12-3-3
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 37, University of Denver 14, 
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 7, Minnesota State University 5, Michigan Tech University 2.

USCHO Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Quinnipiac	59	17-1-3	.8810	1	.6285*	1
2	Harvard	        58	8-1-3	.7917	6	.6231*	2
3	Nebraska-Omaha	57	14-3-1	.8056	3t	.6202*	3
4	St. Cloud State	56	16-4-0	.8000	5	.6167*	4
5	North Dakota	55	18-2-2	.8636	2	.6084*	5
6	Providence	54	13-2-3	.8056	3t	.5958*	6
7	Cornell	        53	9-2-2	.7692	7	.5813	7
8	Michigan	52	11-3-3	.7353	10	.5662	8
9	St. Lawrence	51	10-5-2	.6471	13	.5566	9
10	Yale	        50	6-4-2	.5833	20t	.5551	10
11	Penn State	49	12-3-3	.7500	8t	.5507	11
12t	Boston Univer	47	9-6-3	.5833	20t	.5489	12
12t	Notre Dame	47	9-4-6	.6316	15	.5485	13
14	Mass-Lowell	46	11-4-4	.6842	11	.5472	15
15t	Rensselaer	44	11-7-3	.5952	19	.5474	14
15t	Boston College	44	13-4-1	.7500	8t	.5435	16
17	Minnesota State	43	10-6-4	.6000	17t	.5373	17
18	Union	        42	9-6-4	.5789	22	.5287	19
19	Minnesota	41	8-9-0	.4706	33	.5304	18
20	Denver	        40	7-7-4	.5000	25t	.5257	20
21	Dartmouth	39	5-7-1	.4231	37	.5255	21


USCHO KRACH: Division I Men

Rank	Team	Rating	RRWP	Win % Rk	W-L-T	Win %	Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Quinnipiac	1046.	.9009	1	17-1-3	0.8810	7.400	6	165.2
2	St. Cloud State	804.9	.8758	5	16-4-0	0.8000	4.000	1	219.5
3	North Dakota	609.6	.8439	2	18-2-2	0.8636	6.333	26	109.4
4	Harvard	        569.0	.8351	6	8-1-3	0.7917	3.800	5	170.7
5	Nebraska-Omaha	488.1	.8142	3t	14-3-1	0.8056	4.143	15	130.1
6	Providence	422.8	.7929	3t	13-2-3	0.8056	4.143	24	112.8
7	Cornell	        377.9	.7751	7	9-2-2	0.7692	3.333	18	126.0
8	Michigan	278.8	.7217	10	11-3-3	0.7353	2.778	29	107.2
9	Yale	        238.4	.6915	20	6-4-2	0.5833	1.400	4	174.8
10	Penn State	225.6	.6805	8t	12-3-3	0.7500	3.000	43	80.57
11	St. Lawrence	220.0	.6754	13	10-5-2	0.6471	1.833	20	124.3
12	Boston College	218.5	.6740	8t	13-4-1	0.7500	3.000	45	78.04
13	Notre Dame	215.1	.6708	15	9-4-6	0.6316	1.714	16	129.1
14	Boston Univer	197.3	.6529	20	9-6-3	0.5833	1.400	9	143.5
15	Rensselaer	189.8	.6447	19	11-7-3	0.5952	1.471	13	131.4
16	Mass-Lowell	187.1	.6416	11	11-4-4	0.6842	2.167	38	90.10
17	Minnesota State	174.2	.6262	17t	10-6-4	0.6000	1.500	23	118.5
18	Union	        169.8	.6206	22	9-6-4	0.5789	1.375	19	125.5
19	Minnesota-Duluth155.4	.6011	25t	7-7-3	0.5000	1.000	7	155.4
20	Bowling Green	141.3	.5797	12	12-5-5	0.6591	1.933	47	75.37
21	Minnesota	134.5	.5685	33	8-9-0	0.4706	0.889	8	150.4
22	Dartmouth	133.7	.5672	37	5-7-1	0.4231	0.733	3	178.3

Read more: [www.uscho.com]

CHN PWR

Rk 	Team 	       PCWs 	RPI 	Rk 	QWB-† 	W-L-T 	Win % 	Wgtd Win % - ‡
1 	Quinnipiac 	59 	.6285 	1 	.0092 	17-1-3 	.8810 	.8667
2 	Harvard 	58 	.6231 	2 	.0057 	8-1-3 	.7917 	.8197
3 	Nebraska-Omaha 	57 	.6202 	3 	.0044 	14-3-1 	.8056 	.8353
4 	St. Cloud State	56 	.6167 	4 	.0048 	16-4-0 	.8000 	.7980
5 	North Dakota 	55 	.6084 	5 	.0023 	18-2-2 	.8636 	.8694
6 	Providence 	54 	.5958 	6 	.0030 	13-2-3 	.8056 	.8161
7 	Cornell 	53 	.5813 	7 	.0066 	9-2-2 	.7692 	.7578
8 	Michigan 	52 	.5662 	8 	.0026 	11-3-3 	.7353 	.7037
9 	St. Lawrence 	51 	.5566 	9 	.0049 	10-5-2 	.6471 	.6585
10 	Yale 	        50 	.5551 	10 	.0051 	6-4-2 	.5833 	.5833
11 	Penn State 	49 	.5507 	11 	.0016 	12-3-3 	.7500 	.7209
12 	Boston Univer 	47 	.5489 	12 	.0085 	9-6-3 	.5833 	.5723
13 	Notre Dame 	47 	.5485 	13 	.0037 	9-4-6 	.6316 	.6237
14 	Mass.-Lowell 	46 	.5472 	15 	.0019 	11-4-4 	.6842 	.6828
15 	Rensselaer 	44 	.5474 	14 	.0052 	11-7-3 	.5952 	.5882
16 	Boston College 	44 	.5435 	16 	.0000 	13-4-1 	.7500 	.7416
17 	Minnesota State	43 	.5373 	17 	.0005 	10-6-4 	.6000 	.6122
18 	Union 	        42 	.5287 	19 	.0022 	9-6-4 	.5789 	.5417
19 	Minnesota 	41 	.5304 	18 	.0044 	8-9-0 	.4706 	.4419
20 	Denver 	        40 	.5257 	20 	.0009 	7-7-4 	.5000 	.5116
21 	Dartmouth 	39 	.5255 	21 	.0031 	5-7-1 	.4231 	.4426

CHN KRACH
Rk 	Team 	             KRACH 	   Record 	  	        Sched Strength
                        Rating 	RRWP 	Rk 	W-L-T 	Pct 	Ratio 	Rk 	SOS
1	Quinnipiac	1515.6	.9112	1	17-1-3	.8810	7.400	6	204.8
2	St. Cloud State	1112.4	.8849	5	16-4-0	.8000	4.000	1	278.1
3	Harvard	        791.4	.8498	6	8-1-3	.7917	3.800	4	208.3
4	North Dakota	787.2	.8491	2	18-2-2	.8636	6.333	22	124.3
5	Nebraska-Omaha	617.2	.8198	3t	14-3-1	.8056	4.143	11	149.0
6	Providence	511.4	.7947	3t	13-2-3	.8056	4.143	23	123.4
7	Cornell	        491.0	.7890	7	9-2-2	.7692	3.333	12	147.3
8	Michigan	308.7	.7168	10	11-3-3	.7353	2.778	27	111.1
9	Yale	        298.9	.7113	20t	6-4-2	.5833	1.400	3	213.5
10	St. Lawrence	248.1	.6786	13	10-5-2	.6471	1.833	19	135.3
11	Notre Dame	240.6	.6731	15	9-4-6	.6316	1.714	15	140.4
12	Penn State	236.6	.6700	8t	12-3-3	.7500	3.000	41	78.9
13	Boston College	233.4	.6675	8t	13-4-1	.7500	3.000	42	77.8
14	Boston Univer	224.6	.6604	20t	9-6-3	.5833	1.400	9	160.4
15	Rensselaer	212.6	.6502	19	11-7-3	.5952	1.471	13	144.5
16	Mass.-Lowell	200.5	.6391	11	11-4-4	.6842	2.167	38	92.5
17	Union	        186.0	.6248	22	9-6-4	.5789	1.375	20	135.3
18	Minnesota State	183.4	.6221	17t	10-6-4	.6000	1.500	25	122.3
19	Minnesota-Duluth176.1	.6142	25t	7-7-3	.5000	1.000	7	176.1
20	Dartmouth	151.2	.5842	37	5-7-1	.4231	.733	5	206.2

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 04, 2016
	Team	(First Place Votes)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(15)	20- 0-0	150	1
2	Wisconsin		18- 1-1	135	2
3	Minnesota		15- 3-0	120	3
4	Quinnipiac		16- 1-3	105	4
5	Clarkson		15- 3-2	76	6
6	Bemidji State		13- 5-2	75	5
7	North Dakota		11- 6-3	52	7
8	Northeastern		14- 4-1	49	8
9	Harvard		         8- 4-1	36	9
10	Colgate		        10- 3-5	13	10
Others receiving votes: Princeton 12, Minnesota-Duluth 1, Robert Morris 1.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Boston College	17	20-0-0	1.000	1	.7240*	1
2	Wisconsin	16	18-1-1	.9250	2	.6777*	2
3	Quinnipiac	15	16-1-3	.8750	3	.6365*	3
4	Minnesota	14	15-3-0	.8333	4	.6349*	4
5	Clarkson	13	15-3-2	.8000	5	.6016*	5
6t	Bemidji State	11	13-5-2	.7000	8	.5877*	6
6t	Princeton	11	13-4-1	.7500	7	.5863*	7
8	Northeastern	10	14-4-1	.7632	6	.5790*	8
9	North Dakota	9	11-6-3	.6250	13	.5674	9
10t	Harvard	        8	8-4-1	.6538	10	.5555*	10
10t	Colgate	        8	10-3-5	.6944	9	.5432*	12
12	Cornell	        6	6-6-2	.5000	16t	.5298	13

KRACH: Division I and II Women

Rank	Team	      Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T   Win %   Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Boston College	5092.	.9712	1t	20-0-0	1.0000	**	12	124.2
2	Wisconsin	1945.	.9295	3	18-1-1	0.9250	12.333	5	204.8
3	Minnesota	1034.	.8823	5	15-3-0	0.8333	5.000	2	233.5
4	Quinnipiac	709.1	.8437	4	16-1-3	0.8750	7.000	17	118.2
5	St. Anselm	528.3	.8072	1t	4-0-0	1.0000	**	33	58.70
6	Bemidji State	513.0	.8032	10	13-5-2	0.7000	2.333	3	230.0
7	Clarkson	425.5	.7766	6	15-3-2	0.8000	4.000	18	116.0
8	North Dakota	365.6	.7531	13	11-6-3	0.6250	1.667	4	225.0
9	Princeton	336.8	.7398	7	13-4-1	0.7500	3.000	14	120.3
10	Northeastern	314.1	.7281	8t	11-4-1	0.7188	2.556	10	130.9
11	Colgate	        266.0	.6989	8t	9-2-5	0.7188	2.556	20	110.8
12	Harvard	        229.8	.6718	12	8-4-1	0.6538	1.889	11	127.7
13	Minnesota-Duluth219.3	.6629	20	9-10-1	0.4750	0.905	1	241.2
14	Cornell	        182.5	.6267	18t	6-6-2	0.5000	1.000	6	182.5

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Trotsky

RichH
And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance

Wonder how high we would have climbed with just a simple win? 6 maybe? Oh well. "The only poll that matters..."

With a win over OSU (or should it be TOSU?) CHN's PWR would put us at 6.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

RichH
And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance

Wonder how high we would have climbed with just a simple win? 6 maybe? Oh well. "The only poll that matters..."

With a win over OSU (or should it be TOSU?) CHN's PWR would put us at 6.

Blarg. Hopefully they'll learn a lesson from it.

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

RichH
And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance

Wonder how high we would have climbed with just a simple win? 6 maybe? Oh well. "The only poll that matters..."

With a win over OSU (or should it be TOSU?) CHN's PWR would put us at 6.

Interestingly, I'd bet a win over Providence & OSU would have resulted in a higher ranking had Providence went on to beat Brown.

Oh well, this is all spilt milk now. Beat Merrimack x 2!

So Pairwise is now "RPI, except in the case where team A has beaten team B head to head AND has the advantage in common games, in which case RPI doesn't matter."

Boring.

It's interesting to see that the pollsters continue to undervalue the ECAC schools relative to the PWR and KRACH rankings. It's good for about 2 spots throughout. This isn't necessarily wrong, of course. It seems to me that a poll should attempt to rank based on a perception of true talent and not just results, especially earlier in the season. We on eLF have a hard time believing that we're really a top 10 program at the moment so why should pollsters give us complete credit for our results to date if they think Michigan, for instance, has more talent. That said, the league wide downranking is almost certainly a result of nti-ECAC bias that has accumulated over the years (which in fairness we have largely earned). In previous years the polls have converged to the PWR by sometime in February. It will be interesting to see if this happens on schedule this year.

Dafatone
So Pairwise is now "RPI, except in the case where team A has beaten team B head to head AND has the advantage in common games, in which case RPI doesn't matter."

Boring.

Yep, it's pretty silly. Looking at the "Pairwise Grid" is pretty pointless these days. That said, I don't remember seeing any dramatic differences between RPI and KRACH of late, so one could say that they've converged on a system that is pretty reasonable.

Swampy

Jim Hyla

Trotsky

RichH
And no change in our poll position following the Jekyll/Hyde tournament performance

Wonder how high we would have climbed with just a simple win? 6 maybe? Oh well. "The only poll that matters..."

With a win over OSU (or should it be TOSU?) CHN's PWR would put us at 6.

Interestingly, I'd bet a win over Providence & OSU would have resulted in a higher ranking had Providence went on to beat Brown.

Oh well, this is all spilt milk now. Beat Merrimack x 2!

If you mean human ranking in the polls, you might be right, but we'd fall in PWR. If PU beats Brown, it flips their COp and RPI. They jump ahead of us, and we fall to 7.

Today's action moves us up into 6th in the Pairwise.

Beeeej
Today's action moves us up into 6th in the Pairwise.

Also, with St. Cloud's loss we now have the third best win-loss record in the country (after Q and NoDak).

With today's results Cornell is fifth in USCHO PWR.

Trotsky
With today's results Cornell is fifth in USCHO PWR.

And according to CHN, had we beaten tOSU, we'd be a comfortable #2.

Oh, well. Let's hope come late March/early April we're glad we got that stinker out of the way and our exceptionally young team learned from the experience.

Up to 8 in USCHO poll.

RPI is 20 and Union is 23.

USA Hockey/USA Today bumps us up to 7th, a single voting point ahead of a certain Allston squad.

That 7th is our best since 11/5/12.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 11, 2016
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	North Dakota	(32)	18- 2-2	980	1
2	Quinnipiac	(18)	19- 1-3	967	2
3	Providence		13- 3-4	833	3
4	Boston College		14- 4-2	815	7
5	St. Cloud State		17- 5-0	775	4
6	Michigan		13- 3-3	747	8
7	Harvard		         8- 3-3	676	5
8	Cornell		        11- 2-2	661	9
9	Nebraska-Omaha		14- 5-1	603	6
10	Boston University	11- 6-3	562	11
11	Massachusetts-Lowell	12- 4-4	561	10
12	Yale		         8- 4-3	437	12
13	Notre Dame		10- 4-7	375	15
14	Denver		         9- 7-4	326	17
15	Penn State		13- 4-3	300	14
16	Bowling Green		13- 6-5	223	16
17	Minnesota-Duluth	 8- 7-4	159	19
18	St. Lawrence		10- 7-2	152	13
19	Minnesota State		11- 7-4	124	18
20	Rensselaer		11- 7-4	71	20
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 65, Michigan Tech 59, Union 12, Holy Cross 10, Minnesota 7.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 11, 2016
	Team	              Points (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Quinnipiac University	497	(21)	1	19-1-3
2	Univer of North Dakota	487	(13)	2	18-2-2
3	Providence College	401		3	13-3-4
4	Boston College	        376		7	14-4-2
5	St Cloud State Univer	363		5	17-5-0
6	University of Michigan	358		8	13-3-3
7	Cornell University	301		9	11-2-2
8	Harvard University	300		4	8-3-3
9	Univer of Nebraska Omaha245		6	14-5-1
10	Boston University	192		11	11-6-3
11	UMassachusettes-Lowell	191		10	12-4-4
12	Yale University	        130		12	8-4-3
13	Univer of Notre Dame	100		14	10-4-7
14	University of Denver	59		NR	9-7-4
15	Penn State University	58		15	13-4-3
Others receiving votes: Bowling Green State University 7, University of Minnesota Duluth 6, 
St. Lawrence University 6, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 2, Michigan Tech University 1.

Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	PWR	W-L-T	Win %	Win % Rank	RPI	RPI Rank
1	Quinnipiac	59	19-1-3	.8913	1	.6325*	1
2	North Dakota	58	18-2-2	.8636	2	.6084*	2
3	St. Cloud State	57	17-5-0	.7727	4	.6002*	3
4	Harvard	        56	8-3-3	.6786	11	.5920	4
5	Cornell	        55	11-2-2	.8000	3	.5871*	5
6	Providence	54	13-3-4	.7500	6t	.5869	6
7	Nebraska-Omaha	53	14-5-1	.7250	8t	.5856*	7
8	Michigan	52	13-3-3	.7632	5	.5742	8
9	Boston Univer	51	11-6-3	.6250	16t	.5715	9
10	Boston College	50	14-4-2	.7500	6t	.5617	10
11	Notre Dame	49	10-4-7	.6429	14	.5601	11
12	Yale	        48	8-4-3	.6333	15	.5589*	12
13	Mass-Lowell	47	12-4-4	.7000	10	.5527	13
14	Denver	        46	9-7-4	.5500	22	.5510	14
15	Penn State	45	13-4-3	.7250	8t	.5412	15
16	Minnesota-Duluth43	8-7-4	.5263	24	.5363	16
17t	Rensselaer	42	11-7-4	.5909	19t	.5343	17
17t	Minnesota State	42	11-7-4	.5909	19t	.5300	18
19	Minnesota	41	9-10-0	.4737	32t	.5293	19
20	St. Lawrence	40	10-7-2	.5789	21	.5240	20

KRACH: Division I Men

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk  W-L-T  Win % Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Quinnipiac	1122.	.9079	1	19-1-3	0.8913	8.200	8	160.2
2	North Dakota	628.3	.8488	2	18-2-2	0.8636	6.333	26	112.8
3	St. Cloud State	579.8	.8387	4	17-5-0	0.7727	3.400	2	182.2
4	Cornell	        443.7	.8013	3	11-2-2	0.8000	4.000	19	124.2
5	Harvard	        382.7	.7781	11	8-3-3	0.6786	2.111	1	191.4
6	Providence	375.5	.7750	6t	13-3-4	0.7500	3.000	14	133.3
7	Michigan	313.9	.7443	5	13-3-3	0.7632	3.222	31	104.6
8	Nebraska-Omaha	310.0	.7420	8t	14-5-1	0.7250	2.636	20	124.0
9	Boston College	285.8	.7272	6t	14-4-2	0.7500	3.000	33	101.4
10	Boston Univer   264.1	.7122	16t	11-6-3	0.6250	1.667	6	162.5
11	Yale	        246.4	.6988	15	8-4-3	0.6333	1.727	10	147.8
12	Notre Dame	240.2	.6937	14	10-4-7	0.6429	1.800	13	137.3
13	Mass-Lowell	214.2	.6705	10	12-4-4	0.7000	2.333	35	96.03
14	Penn State	198.8	.6549	8t	13-4-3	0.7250	2.636	45	79.51
15	Denver	        198.2	.6543	22	9-7-4	0.5500	1.222	5	163.7
16	Minnesota-Duluth177.8	.6311	24	8-7-4	0.5263	1.111	7	160.9
17	Rensselaer	161.4	.6098	19t	11-7-4	0.5909	1.444	25	113.6
18	Minnesota State	153.1	.5980	19t	11-7-4	0.5909	1.444	28	107.7
19	Union	        148.7	.5914	23	9-7-5	0.5476	1.211	21	123.9
20	Minnesota	148.2	.5907	32t	9-10-0	0.4737	0.900	4	163.8
21	St. Lawrence	145.3	.5862	21	10-7-2	0.5789	1.375	29	107.4

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 11, 2016
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(15)	21- 0-0	150	1
2	Wisconsin		20- 1-1	135	2
3	Minnesota		18- 3-0	120	3
4	Quinnipiac		17- 1-4	102	4
5	Clarkson		17- 3-2	87	5
6	Bemidji State		15- 5-2	72	6
7	Northeastern		17- 4-1	59	8
8	Harvard		        10- 4-1	39	9
9	North Dakota		11- 6-3	36	7
10	Princeton		15- 4-1	20	NR
Others receiving votes: Colgate 4, Boston University 1.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	 RPI	RPI Rank
1	Boston College	17	21-0-0	1.000	1	.7232*	1
2	Wisconsin	16	20-1-1	.9318	2	.6883*	2
3	Minnesota	15	18-3-0	.8571	4	.6395*	3
4	Quinnipiac	14	17-1-4	.8636	3	.6248*	4
5	Clarkson	13	17-3-2	.8182	5	.6043*	5
6t	Bemidji State	11	15-5-2	.7273	8	.5888*	6
6t	Northeastern	11	17-4-1	.7955	6	.5872*	7
8	Princeton	10	15-4-1	.7750	7	.5866*	8
9	Harvard	         9	10-4-1	.7000	9	.5774*	9
10t	North Dakota	 8	11-6-3	.6250	12	.5683*	10
10t	Colgate	         8	11-4-6	.6667	10	.5379*	12
12	Cornell	         6	7-7-2	.5000	17t	.5276	13

KRACH: Division I and II Women

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T  Win %  Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Boston College	5531.	.9724	1t	21-0-0	1.0000	**	12	128.6
2	Wisconsin	2345.	.9385	3	20-1-1	0.9318	13.667	4	223.3
3	Minnesota	1220.	.8950	5	18-3-0	0.8571	6.000	3	230.9
4	Quinnipiac	620.9	.8265	4	17-1-4	0.8636	6.333	17	111.5
5	Bemidji State	559.9	.8134	9	15-5-2	0.7273	2.667	5	220.5
6	St. Anselm	494.8	.7969	1t	4-0-0	1.0000	**	31	54.98
7	Clarkson	444.7	.7817	6	17-3-2	0.8182	4.500	19	108.2
8	North Dakota	385.8	.7604	13	11-6-3	0.6250	1.667	2	237.4
9	Northeastern	380.5	.7582	8	14-4-1	0.7632	3.222	13	126.8
10	Princeton	352.2	.7459	7	15-4-1	0.7750	3.444	18	110.1
11	Harvard	        322.2	.7313	10	10-4-1	0.7000	2.333	9	146.4
12	Minnesota-Duluth224.6	.6667	22	9-12-1	0.4318	0.760	1	292.0
13	Colgate	        222.1	.6646	12	10-3-6	0.6842	2.167	20	106.9
14	Cornell	        170.1	.6120	18t	7-7-2	0.5000	1.000	6	170.1

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USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 18, 2016
	Team	     (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Quinnipiac	(41)	19- 1-3	990	2
2	North Dakota	( 8)	19- 3-2	941	1
3	Providence	( 1)	15- 3-4	889	3
4	Boston College		15- 4-3	820	4
5	St. Cloud State		18- 5-1	785	5
6	Michigan		14- 3-4	748	6
7	Nebraska-Omaha		15- 6-1	671	9
8	Mass-Lowell		14- 4-4	611	11
9	Harvard		         9- 4-3	603	7
10	Cornell		        11- 3-3	528	8
11	Boston University       11- 7-4	496	10
12	Yale		       10- 4-3	471	12
13	Notre Dame	       12- 4-7	448	13
14	Penn State	       15- 4-3	352	15
15	Denver		       10- 7-5	335	14
16	Rensselaer	       12- 7-5	180	20
17	Michigan Tech	       13- 7-4	141	NR
18	Bowling Green	       13- 7-5	140	16
19	Minnesota-Duluth        8- 8-5	110	17
20	Minnesota State	       11- 8-5	84	19
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 58, Minnesota 46, Holy Cross 18, 
St. Lawrence 17, Dartmouth 4, Union 4, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 18, 2016
	Team	             Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Quinnipiac University	503	(30)	1	19-1-3
2	Univer of North Dakota	468	(3)	2	19-3-2
3	Providence College	424	(1)	3	15-3-4
4	St Cloud State Univer	388		5	18-5-1
5	Boston College	        375		4	15-4-3
6	University of Michigan	357		6	14-3-4
7	Univer of Nebraska Omaha279		9	15-6-1
8	Harvard University	251		8	9-4-3
9	UMass Lowell	        234		11	14-4-4
10	Cornell University	204		7	11-3-3
11	Boston University	158		10	11-7-4
12	Yale University	        154		12	10-4-3
13	University of Notre Dame149		13	12-4-7
14	Penn State University	71		15	15-4-3
15	University of Denver	55		14	10-7-5
Others receiving votes: St. Lawrence University 4, Michigan Tech University 3, 
University of Minnesota 2, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 1.


Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR      W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1	Quinnipiac	59	19-1-3	.8913	1	.6293*	1
2	St. Cloud State	58	18-5-1	.7708	4	.6036*	2
3	North Dakota	57	19-3-2	.8333	2	.5982*	3
4	Providence	56	15-3-4	.7727	3	.5954	4
5	Nebraska-Omaha	55	15-6-1	.7045	10	.5875*	5
6	Harvard	        54	9-4-3	.6562	13	.5778	6
7	Michigan	53	14-3-4	.7619	5	.5740*	7
8	Cornell	        52	11-3-3	.7353	8	.5726*	8
9	Boston College	51	15-4-3	.7500	6t	.5690	9
10	Yale	        50	10-4-3	.6765	11	.5673*	10
11	Notre Dame	49	12-4-7	.6739	12	.5667	11
12	Boston Univer	48	11-7-4	.5909	19	.5603	12
13	Mass-Lowell	47	14-4-4	.7273	9	.5584	13
14	Denver	46	10-7-5	.5682	20	.5531	14
15	Penn State	45	15-4-3	.7500	6t	.5462	15
16t	Minnesota	43	11-10-0	.5238	22	.5373	16
16t	Minnesota-Duluth43	8-8-5	.5000	27t	.5346	17
18	Rensselaer	41	12-7-5	.6042	18	.5339	18
19t	Dartmouth	40	8-8-1	.5000	27t	.5278	19
19t	Minnesota State	40	11-8-5	.5625	21	.5236	20


KRACH: Division I Men

Rank	Team	      Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T  Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk	SOS
1	Quinnipiac	1062.	.9033	1	19-1-3	0.8913	8.200	9	151.7
2	St. Cloud State	586.4	.8401	4	18-5-1	0.7708	3.364	2	185.2
3	North Dakota	577.7	.8382	2	19-3-2	0.8333	5.000	21	126.8
4	Providence	422.7	.7938	3	15-3-4	0.7727	3.400	16	132.9
5	Nebraska-Omaha	338.5	.7574	10	15-6-1	0.7045	2.385	10	148.1
6	Harvard	        332.0	.7541	13	9-4-3	0.6562	1.909	3	181.1
7	Boston College	327.5	.7517	6t	15-4-3	0.7500	3.000	24	115.6
8	Cornell	        309.5	.7417	8	11-3-3	0.7353	2.778	22	119.0
9	Michigan	303.8	.7383	5	14-3-4	0.7619	3.200	34	101.3
10	Notre Dame	281.7	.7244	12	12-4-7	0.6739	2.067	13	140.9
11	Yale	        271.2	.7172	11	10-4-3	0.6765	2.091	15	135.6
12	Mass-Lowell	242.3	.6953	9	14-4-4	0.7273	2.667	35	95.43
13	Boston Univer	236.9	.6908	19	11-7-4	0.5909	1.444	5	166.7
14	Penn State	222.9	.6786	6t	15-4-3	0.7500	3.000	42	78.67
15	Denver	        208.6	.6650	20	10-7-5	0.5682	1.316	6	160.5
16	Minnesota-Duluth192.0	.6475	27t	8-8-5	0.5000	1.000	1	192.0
17	Rensselaer	171.8	.6234	18	12-7-5	0.6042	1.526	25	114.5
18	Minnesota	168.3	.6189	22	11-10-0	0.5238	1.100	8	153.6
19	Dartmouth	147.5	.5896	27t	8-8-1	0.5000	1.000	11	147.5
20	Minnesota State	138.3	.5749	21	11-8-5	0.5625	1.286	30	108.6
21	Union	        127.7	.5568	24t	9-8-6	0.5217	1.091	23	117.5

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 18, 2016
	Team	      (First)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(15)	23- 0-0	150	1
2	Wisconsin		22- 1-1	135	2
3	Minnesota		20- 3-0	119	3
4	Quinnipiac		19- 1-4	105	4
5	Clarkson		19- 3-2	89	5
6	Northeastern		20- 4-1	67	7
7	Bemidji State		15- 7-2	53	6
8	North Dakota		13- 6-3	49	9
9	Princeton		15- 4-1	31	10
10	Colgate		        14- 4-6	14	NR
Others receiving votes: Harvard 12, St. Lawrence 1.

Women’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	       PWR      W-L-T  Win % Win % Rank	 RPI  RPI Rank
1	Boston College	17	23-0-0	1.000	1	.7201*	1
2	Wisconsin	16	22-1-1	.9375	2	.6935*	2
3	Minnesota	15	20-3-0	.8696	4	.6351*	3
4	Quinnipiac	14	19-1-4	.8750	3	.6256*	4
5	Clarkson	13	19-3-2	.8333	5	.6101*	5
6	Northeastern	12	20-4-1	.8200	6	.5904*	6
7	Princeton	11	15-4-1	.7750	7	.5842*	7
8	North Dakota	10	13-6-3	.6591	10	.5780*	8
9	Colgate	         9	14-4-6	.7083	8	.5546*	10
10	Bemidji State	 8	15-7-2	.6667	9	.5744*	9
11	Harvard	         7	10-6-1	.6176	12	.5528*	11
12t	St. Lawrence	 5	12-10-2	.5417	17	.5227*	13
12t	Cornell	         5	8-8-3	.5000	18t	.5191	14
14	Boston Univer    4	14-8-2	.6250	11	.5388	12

KRACH: Division I and II Women

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T  Win %  Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Boston College	5385.	.9708	1t	21-0-0	1.0000	**	12	125.2
2	Wisconsin	2939.	.9484	3	22-1-1	0.9375	15.000	3	255.5
3	Minnesota	1295.	.8986	5	20-3-0	0.8696	6.667	5	221.0
4	Quinnipiac	661.2	.8331	4	19-1-4	0.8750	7.000	17	107.6
5	Bemidji State	543.9	.8088	11	15-7-2	0.6667	2.000	2	280.2
6	St. Anselm	515.0	.8015	1t	4-0-0	1.0000	**	33	57.22
7	Clarkson	501.2	.7979	6	19-3-2	0.8333	5.000	15	110.0
8	North Dakota	464.0	.7871	12	13-6-3	0.6591	1.933	4	247.5
9	Northeastern	403.4	.7666	7	17-4-1	0.7955	3.889	14	112.0
10	Princeton	345.1	.7421	8	15-4-1	0.7750	3.444	16	107.8
11	Colgate	        259.8	.6934	10	13-3-6	0.7273	2.667	21	102.4
12	Harvard	        232.3	.6728	13	10-6-1	0.6176	1.615	8	147.8
13	Minnesota-Duluth189.1	.6330	24	9-14-1	0.3958	0.655	1	283.6
14	St. Cloud State	150.3	.5864	19t	9-9-3	0.5000	1.000	7	150.3
15	St. Lawrence	147.6	.5826	18	11-10-2	0.5217	1.091	10	135.8
16	Boston Univer	147.3	.5823	15	12-8-2	0.5909	1.444	18	103.7
17	Cornell	        145.5	.5797	19t	8-8-3	0.5000	1.000	9	145.5

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Just win, baby.

Trotsky
Just win, baby.

Yes, it does just about solve everything.

Except for the Women's USA poll, I put the rest of the tables up. Unless Cornell women get back in contention, I'm forgetting about the USA poll.

The men are still sitting okay in PWR, at 8, but they do need to win.

Jim Hyla
The men are still sitting okay in PWR, at 8, but they do need to win.

We caught some nice luck in the ECAC last weekend with Colgate stealing a point from RPI and Harvard getting inexplicably bombed out. A sweep weekend and we launch into the second half solidly in the top 4. But, yes, as well as they are playing they do need to actually win.

Also, although I realize few really care, this is a vital weekend in the Ivy title race. A sweep would all but guarantee Cornell being in a three-way down the stretch with Harvard and Yale.

Trotsky
Just win, baby.

And being wildly optimistic, looking ahead to early February, and doing all the things I know one shouldn't do, when was the last time Cornell beat 2 teams ranked #1 in a single season?

Swampy

Trotsky
Just win, baby.

And being wildly optimistic, looking ahead to early February, and doing all the things I know one shouldn't do, when was the last time Cornell beat 2 teams ranked #1 in a single season?

It hasn't happened since at least 83. My guess is Ned's teams may have done it. It is possible that they have never done it.

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky
Just win, baby.

And being wildly optimistic, looking ahead to early February, and doing all the things I know one shouldn't do, when was the last time Cornell beat 2 teams ranked #1 in a single season?

It hasn't happened since at least 83. My guess is Ned's teams may have done it. It is possible that they have never done it.

Were there polls in the sixties and early seventies?

marty

Trotsky

Swampy

Trotsky
Just win, baby.

And being wildly optimistic, looking ahead to early February, and doing all the things I know one shouldn't do, when was the last time Cornell beat 2 teams ranked #1 in a single season?

It hasn't happened since at least 83. My guess is Ned's teams may have done it. It is possible that they have never done it.

Were there polls in the sixties and early seventies?

Right about when we moved from gas lamps to electricity, Marty.

marty
Were there polls in the sixties and early seventies?

This is something I've been trying to discover. I believe there were several polls conducted by TV/radio stations. One in particular was IINM out of a radio station in Michigan and was reprinted in the Boston Globe and in Don Birkmeyer's hockey newsletter. I would dearly love to find a complete history of polls to fill in the details of Cornell's polling history going back to the beginning of time.

Down to 15(!) in the Pairwise.

BearLover
Down to 15(!) in the Pairwise.

14 now. Forget it if you're 16, Robert Morris kicks you out. 15 is touchy, can't have any upsets. Have to shoot for 14, or better.

Jim Hyla

BearLover
Down to 15(!) in the Pairwise.

14 now. Forget it if you're 16, Robert Morris kicks you out. 15 is touchy, can't have any upsets. Have to shoot for 14, or better.

15 is not good enough this year, because it's likely that both the AH and WCHA champions will be outside the top 15.

Scersk '97

Jim Hyla

BearLover
Down to 15(!) in the Pairwise.

14 now. Forget it if you're 16, Robert Morris kicks you out. 15 is touchy, can't have any upsets. Have to shoot for 14, or better.

15 is not good enough this year, because it's likely that both the AH and WCHA champions will be outside the top 15.

How right you are.on me.

Down to 14 in USCHO.

USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 25, 2016
	Team	      (First)	Record Points Last Poll
1	Quinnipiac	(30)	19- 1-5	975	1
2	North Dakota	(15)	20- 3-3	949	2
3	St. Cloud State	( 4)	20- 5-1	871	5
4	Providence	( 1)	16- 4-4	841	3
5	Boston College		16- 4-4	832	4
6	Michigan		14- 3-4	753	6
7	Harvard		        11- 4-3	671	9
8	Massachusetts-Lowell	15- 5-4	627	8
9	Boston University	13- 7-4	554	11
10	Notre Dame		14- 4-7	524	13
11	Yale		        11- 4-4	503	12
12	Nebraska-Omaha		15- 8-1	502	7
13	Denver		        12- 7-5	398	15
14	Cornell		        11- 5-3	361	10
15	Penn State		16- 5-3	278	14
16	Rensselaer		13- 7-6	266	16
17	Michigan Tech		13- 7-4	168	17
18	Bowling Green		15- 7-5	161	18
19	Minnesota State		13- 8-5	110	20
20	Minnesota		13-10-0	72	NR
Others receiving votes: Dartmouth 25, Robert Morris 25, Minnesota-Duluth 14, 
St. Lawrence 9, Union 4, Alaska-Anchorage 3, Northeastern 2, Holy Cross 1, Miami 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 25, 2016
	Team	              Points  (First) Last Poll	Record
1	Quinnipiac University	503	(28)	1	19-1-5
2	Univer of North Dakota	474	(6)	2	20-3-3
3	St Cloud State Univer	419		4	20-5-1
4	Providence College	393		3	16-4-4
5	Boston College	392		5	16-4-4
6	University of Michigan	346		6	14-3-4
7	Harvard University	310		8	11-4-3
8	UMass Lowell	        235		9	15-5-4
9	University of Notre Dame206		13	14-4-7
10	Boston University	192		11	13-7-4
11	Univer Nebraska Omaha	187		7	15-8-1
12	Yale University	        170		12	11-4-4
13	Cornell University	92		10	11-5-3
14	University of Denver	80		15	12-7-5
15	Penn State University	42		14	16-5-3
Others receiving votes: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 15, 
University of Minnesota 12, Bowling Green State University 4, 
Michigan Tech University 4, St. Lawrence University 4.


Men’s Division I PairWise Rankings

Rank	Team	        PWR	W-L-T   Win % Win % Rank RPI	RPI Rank
1	Quinnipiac	59	19-1-5	.8600	1	.6110*	1
2	St. Cloud State	58	20-5-1	.7885	3	.6063*	2
3	North Dakota	57	20-3-3	.8269	2	.5913*	3
4	Providence	56	16-4-4	.7500	5t	.5894	4
5	Harvard	        55	11-4-3	.6944	10	.5847	5
6	Michigan	54	14-3-4	.7619	4	.5770*	6
7	Boston College	53	16-4-4	.7500	5t	.5700	7
8	Notre Dame	52	14-4-7	.7000	9	.5680	8
9	Nebraska-Omaha	51	15-8-1	.6458	15	.5663*	9
10	Yale	        50	11-4-4	.6842	11	.5642*	10
11	Boston Univer	49	13-7-4	.6250	16t	.5615	11
12	Mass-Lowell	48	15-5-4	.7083	8	.5593	12
13	Denver	        47	12-7-5	.6042	19	.5582	13
14	Cornell	        46	11-5-3	.6579	12	.5504	14
15t	Minnesota	44	13-10-0	.5652	22	.5455	15
15t	Penn State	44	16-5-3	.7292	7	.5453	16
17	Rensselaer	42	13-7-6	.6154	18	.5432	17
18t	Dartmouth	41	10-8-1	.5526	24	.5409	18
18t	Minnesota-Duluth41	8-10-5	.4565	33t	.5279	19

KRACH: Division I Men

Rank	Team	       Rating	RRWP Win % Rk	W-L-T  Win %  Win Ratio	SOS Rk	SOS
1	Quinnipiac	800.9	.8767	1	19-1-5	0.8600	6.143	12	145.6
2	St. Cloud State	614.1	.8461	3	20-5-1	0.7885	3.727	5	175.5
3	North Dakota	527.1	.8261	2	20-3-3	0.8269	4.778	23	119.8
4	Providence	402.3	.7860	5t	16-4-4	0.7500	3.000	13	141.4
5	Harvard	        392.7	.7822	10	11-4-3	0.6944	2.273	3	181.3
6	Boston College	326.1	.7508	5t	16-4-4	0.7500	3.000	26	114.6
7	Michigan	321.0	.7480	4	14-3-4	0.7619	3.200	32	107.0
8	Notre Dame	306.8	.7399	9	14-4-7	0.7000	2.333	15	136.3
9	Nebraska-Omaha	268.6	.7152	15	15-8-1	0.6458	1.824	8	151.1
10	Yale	        266.8	.7139	11	11-4-4	0.6842	2.167	19	128.5
11	Mass-Lowell	255.8	.7058	8	15-5-4	0.7083	2.429	30	109.6
12	Boston Univer	252.4	.7032	16t	13-7-4	0.6250	1.667	7	154.7
13	Denver	        243.3	.6960	19	12-7-5	0.6042	1.526	6	162.2
14	Cornell	        223.8	.6792	12	11-5-3	0.6579	1.923	22	120.5
15	Penn State	203.2	.6593	7	16-5-3	0.7292	2.692	42	79.04
16	Rensselaer	199.3	.6552	18	13-7-6	0.6154	1.600	20	126.8
17	Minnesota	193.2	.6486	22	13-10-0	0.5652	1.300	9	150.3
18	Dartmouth	179.0	.6323	24	10-8-1	0.5526	1.235	11	146.5

USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 25, 2016
	Team	(First Place Votes)	Record	Points	Last Poll
1	Boston College	(15)	26- 0-0	150	1
2	Wisconsin		24- 1-1	135	2
3	Minnesota		22- 3-0	119	3
4	Quinnipiac		20- 1-4	106	4
5	Clarkson		20- 3-3	79	5
6	Northeastern		22- 4-1	77	6
7	Bemidji State		17- 7-2	62	7
8	North Dakota		13- 8-3	41	8
9	Princeton		15- 4-1	32	9
10	Colgate		        14- 5-7	13	10
Others receiving votes: Harvard 8, St. Lawrence 3.

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