Halloween: Cornell 1 UNO 1 (ot)

Sections empty during lineups. That's poor, Ithacans; that's poor.

1-1 tie...not a bad result against a quick team that has played quite a bit more hockey than the Red at this point.

What happened to Ryan? Didn't seem like he was out there at all during the 3rd period or during overtime.

Trotsky
Sections empty during lineups. That's poor, Ithacans; that's poor.

Sections empty during the entire game; student section included.
Maybe they were all out Halloweening? Playing X-Box? Watching Netflix??
Dunno. But, I never thought I'd see the day.

They missed a great game, the tie notwithstanding.
If coach can convince Mitch to stop playing forward they may have a respectable season?!

Tonight should be interesting. Omahaha is no laughing matter.

Game scheduled on Halloween - any fans with kids were out. That's why we weren't there - but our tickets were used. I thought scheduling a game on Halloween wasn't a recipe for a full rink when I first saw it.

Considering the speed & offensive skills that UNO brings to the ice, I thought CU did well to hold fhem to a mere one goal allowed......And, their goalie Massa is a stud. Getting one by him may be a considerable accomplishment... Moral: I think we'll be lucky to beat them tonight. I was very impressed with their team..... It's still early for CU. If these games were played in Jan., when Cornell is hitting their stride, we could sweep. Tonight, I'm nervous.......

Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

What happened on that goal that was discounted for us? I think Massa's mask came off? Sounded like he had mask issues all night.

Dafatone
What happened on that goal that was discounted for us? I think Massa's mask came off? Sounded like he had mask issues all night.

I'm not certain, but I think a Cornell player interfered with Massa while he was playing the puck, resulting in the goal. My thoughts, while they were reviewing the goal, were "I hope what I think I saw isn't viewable on the tape." I guess it was.

andyw2100

Dafatone
What happened on that goal that was discounted for us? I think Massa's mask came off? Sounded like he had mask issues all night.

I'm not certain, but I think a Cornell player interfered with Massa while he was playing the puck, resulting in the goal. My thoughts, while they were reviewing the goal, were "I hope what I think I saw isn't viewable on the tape." I guess it was.

Brandon Thomas was cited on the broadcast that it was disallowed because of the mask coming off. That = an immediate whistle by the rules.

A Weidner PPG waved off because Massa's helmet had just popped off ...

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) November 1, 2014

RichH

Brandon Thomas was cited on the broadcast that it was disallowed because of the mask coming off. That = an immediate whistle by the rules.

A Weidner PPG waved off because Massa's helmet had just popped off ...

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) November 1, 2014

I guess this could be the case, but if that were true, why the review? The ref would know if he blew the whistle before the puck crossed the goal line or not, or more to the point, if he intended to blow the whistle before the puck crossed the goal line. I'd like to hear more.

Even more disturbing was the number of students who left at the end of the third because they had "parties to go to" WTH? 5 minutes of OT hockey is really going to throw off your drinking that much?

Trotsky
Sections empty during lineups. That's poor, Ithacans; that's poor.

RichH

andyw2100

Dafatone
What happened on that goal that was discounted for us? I think Massa's mask came off? Sounded like he had mask issues all night.

I'm not certain, but I think a Cornell player interfered with Massa while he was playing the puck, resulting in the goal. My thoughts, while they were reviewing the goal, were "I hope what I think I saw isn't viewable on the tape." I guess it was.

Brandon Thomas was cited on the broadcast that it was disallowed because of the mask coming off. That = an immediate whistle by the rules.

A Weidner PPG waved off because Massa's helmet had just popped off ...

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) November 1, 2014

And you hope they look at that rule. Yes, there should the an immediate whistle to stop play when the helmet comes off. However when they review the play, they could make the determination that the helmet coming off had no impact upon the goal, thus allowing the goal. It's one thing if because the goalie's helmet came off, he couldn't make the play, or his helmet comes off without a whistle, and play continues before the goal is scored. It's a completely different thing if the helmet coming off is incidental to the goal being scored, which I think is what happened this time. I'm going to review the video, just for the fun of it.

And his helmet came off with regularity throughout the game.

andyw2100

RichH

Brandon Thomas was cited on the broadcast that it was disallowed because of the mask coming off. That = an immediate whistle by the rules.

A Weidner PPG waved off because Massa's helmet had just popped off ...

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) November 1, 2014

I guess this could be the case, but if that were true, why the review? The ref would know if he blew the whistle before the puck crossed the goal line or not, or more to the point, if he intended to blow the whistle before the puck crossed the goal line. I'd like to hear more.

I don't think he blew the whistle. They went to review after the goalie protested.

Coach Schafer had some unusually pointed comments last night, calling out the leadership for "talking the talk, but not walking the walk" as far as sticking to the gameplan, staying within systems, taking care of the puck, etc. [youtu.be]

Jim Hyla

RichH

andyw2100

Dafatone
What happened on that goal that was discounted for us? I think Massa's mask came off? Sounded like he had mask issues all night.

I'm not certain, but I think a Cornell player interfered with Massa while he was playing the puck, resulting in the goal. My thoughts, while they were reviewing the goal, were "I hope what I think I saw isn't viewable on the tape." I guess it was.

Brandon Thomas was cited on the broadcast that it was disallowed because of the mask coming off. That = an immediate whistle by the rules.

A Weidner PPG waved off because Massa's helmet had just popped off ...

— Brandon Thomas (@BT_unassisted) November 1, 2014

And you hope they look at that rule. Yes, there should the an immediate whistle to stop play when the helmet comes off. However when they review the play, they could make the determination that the helmet coming off had no impact upon the goal, thus allowing the goal. It's one thing if because the goalie's helmet came off, he couldn't make the play, or his helmet comes off without a whistle, and play continues before the goal is scored. It's a completely different thing if the helmet coming off is incidental to the goal being scored, which I think is what happened this time. I'm going to review the video, just for the fun of it.

And his helmet came off with regularity throughout the game.

I kinda understand the necessity of losing a helmet being an automatic stop. But could UNO be hit with a delay of game if Massa's helmet continues to pop off every eight seconds?

Jim Hyla

I don't think he blew the whistle. They went to review after the goalie protested.

I definitely saw the goalie protesting. I thought he was claiming he was interfered with.

If, in fact, he was saying his helmet had come off, that brings up an interesting element of the rules that I never thought about before. The rule is that the whistle is supposed to blow and play to stop immediately in that situation for safety reasons. But in a situation where the whistle has not blown, what would be the reason to review the play?

On another rules question, there was also a review of a Cornell non-goal where we had a delayed penalty called in the time after the point at which the puck may or may not have gone in, but before play stopped. Am I correct that if that had been ruled a goal, there also would not have been a penalty, as the clock would have been reset to the time of the goal, so the penalty would never have happened?

andyw2100
Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

Jacob MacDonald. He had an up and down game, to put it mildly. He helped set up our goal, then his whiff set up the UNO goal, and then he had a brutal turnover that led to the UNO chance where they had a 90% open net right on the doorstep and somehow pinged the post with the rebound going right to Gillam. Last Friday I thought Jake looked fantastic. He certainly seems to be out there all the time, so for good or ill he's going to have a huge impact on our D.

IMO Hillbrich had a great game, but there was diagreement on the Chat about that. I also thought Bliss looked really promising, and I think both Teemu and Patrick McCarron spent the summer doing nothing but eating protein because they have filled out.

Trotsky

andyw2100
Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

Jacob MacDonald. He had an up and down game, to put it mildly. He helped set up our goal, then his whiff set up the UNO goal, and then he had a brutal turnover that led to the UNO chance where they had a 90% open net right on the doorstep and somehow pinged the post with the rebound going right to Gillam. Last Friday I thought Jake looked fantastic. He certainly seems to be out there all the time, so for good or ill he's going to have a huge impact on our D.

IMO Hillbrich had a great game, but there was diagreement on the Chat about that. I also thought Bliss looked really promising, and I think both Teemu and Patrick McCarron spent the summer doing nothing but eating protein because they have filled out.

The chat! I forgot that was even a thing. It's early in the season for me, too.

Radio guys were saying that Hilbrich somehow grew another inch. That's exciting/terrifying.

DisplacedCornellian
1-1 tie...not a bad result against a quick team that has played quite a bit more hockey than the Red at this point.

What happened to Ryan? Didn't seem like he was out there at all during the 3rd period or during overtime.

Something with his right hand. I think he had ice on it and during the handshake after the game he was shaking with his left.

Trotsky

andyw2100
Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

Jacob MacDonald. He had an up and down game, to put it mildly. He helped set up our goal, then his whiff set up the UNO goal, and then he had a brutal turnover that led to the UNO chance where they had a 90% open net right on the doorstep and somehow pinged the post with the rebound going right to Gillam. Last Friday I thought Jake looked fantastic. He certainly seems to be out there all the time, so for good or ill he's going to have a huge impact on our D.

Are you sure this was MacDonald? I think it was Wedman. If I'm thinking about the same portion of that play, it happened right in front of the visitors penalty box (& in front of where I sit) and it was Wedman who misplayed the puck there.

MattS

Trotsky

andyw2100
Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

Jacob MacDonald. He had an up and down game, to put it mildly. He helped set up our goal, then his whiff set up the UNO goal, and then he had a brutal turnover that led to the UNO chance where they had a 90% open net right on the doorstep and somehow pinged the post with the rebound going right to Gillam. Last Friday I thought Jake looked fantastic. He certainly seems to be out there all the time, so for good or ill he's going to have a huge impact on our D.

Are you sure this was MacDonald? I think it was Wedman. If I'm thinking about the same portion of that play, it happened right in front of the visitors penalty box (& in front of where I sit) and it was Wedman who misplayed the puck there.

Yup: I was about to say the same thing. I saw the turnover clearly from L, and it was definitely Wedman, not MacDonald.

Would anyone be willing to list the forward lines and d-pairs?

sah67

MattS

Trotsky

andyw2100
Omaha definitely had their chances, but the one goal they did score was kind of a flukey goal. One of our guys (I don't recall who) fanned on a shot from near the blue line resulting in a 2 on 1 the other way.

Jacob MacDonald. He had an up and down game, to put it mildly. He helped set up our goal, then his whiff set up the UNO goal, and then he had a brutal turnover that led to the UNO chance where they had a 90% open net right on the doorstep and somehow pinged the post with the rebound going right to Gillam. Last Friday I thought Jake looked fantastic. He certainly seems to be out there all the time, so for good or ill he's going to have a huge impact on our D.

Are you sure this was MacDonald? I think it was Wedman. If I'm thinking about the same portion of that play, it happened right in front of the visitors penalty box (& in front of where I sit) and it was Wedman who misplayed the puck there.

Yup: I was about to say the same thing. I saw the turnover clearly from L, and it was definitely Wedman, not MacDonald.

I believe I saw a similar turnover by Wedman during one of the exhibition games

RatushnyFan
Would anyone be willing to list the forward lines and d-pairs?

From last night:

Forward combos: Lowry-Bardreau-J.McCarron; Weidner-Kubiak-Buckles; Hilbrich-Knisley-Stoick; Dias-Fiegl-Tiitinen.

On D, Ryan-Willcox; Wedman-P.McCarron; Bliss-MacDonald.

Mitch Gillam in goal.

Thanks!