ECAC 2014-15

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

There's no point in speculating.

To speculate, that sounds like something you do to hold them responsible for the whole team. Which could be a party ("I'm shocked to find there's been underage drinking here..." ) to hazing, which let's hope not because that could be bad.

Union goes on to a tie 3-3 in a game which seemed to be very close throughout.

Yale also picks up a rare win against Vermont at home. I wouldn't be surprised if they are in the top 20 by this week. They have Northeastern on Tuesday and then Harvard next weekend so its feasible for them to move up even more heading into league play.

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

ursusminor

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

All four captains suspended? It was probably hazing or providing alcohol to the young'uns on the team. Serious enough that a coach with integrity has to step in and say "cut the shit, guys" but not really very serious at all.

ursusminor

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

I doubt it was hazing, because the school would do something a lot more serious than that to CYA. I was thinking the drinking might have been at a team event, with the captains being held responsible for getting caught in the time-honored spirit of "it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder."

Colgate assistant coach Lefevre resigns position for non-hockey job

Trotsky

ursusminor

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

I doubt it was hazing, because the school would do something a lot more serious than that to CYA. I was thinking the drinking might have been at a team event, with the captains being held responsible for getting caught in the time-honored spirit of "it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder."

They have been reinstated,

ursusminor

Trotsky

ursusminor

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

I doubt it was hazing, because the school would do something a lot more serious than that to CYA. I was thinking the drinking might have been at a team event, with the captains being held responsible for getting caught in the time-honored spirit of "it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder."

They have been reinstated,

But he hasn't.

Jim Hyla

ursusminor

Trotsky

ursusminor

Jim Hyla
Any of the RPI followers know anything about this? Their 4 captains are suspended.

Lots of rumors but nothing official. Rumor also that they will be reinstated this week.

Edit: Trotzky,
All four are over 21, so it wasn't underage drinking, at least by them. I also doubt that it was hazing.

I doubt it was hazing, because the school would do something a lot more serious than that to CYA. I was thinking the drinking might have been at a team event, with the captains being held responsible for getting caught in the time-honored spirit of "it was worse than a crime, it was a blunder."

They have been reinstated,

But he hasn't.

Me thinks we won't have Seth Appert to kick around anymore.

Yale drops a close one to a resurgent Northeastern team on the road. Not the best way to head into their next game.

Was he kicking Seth? I thought Seth was getting beat up more by a growing segment of disgruntled USCHO denizens. I would think Seth is in more jeopardy from whoever gets named the new AD. If the pattern of other years holds true, RPI gets beat by Q this weekend, shows signs of life against P, and miraculously gets well against us by about 3-1.

TimV
Was he kicking Seth? I thought Seth was getting beat up more by a growing segment of disgruntled USCHO denizens. I would think Seth is in more jeopardy from whoever gets named the new AD. If the pattern of other years holds true, RPI gets beat by Q this weekend, shows signs of life against P, and miraculously gets well against us by about 3-1.

Sorry that I was not clear. What I meant was that with Knowlton gone, there is no one to love and protect Appert and he'll be gone this spring. Then the fans won't have him to kick around.

Troy is not the new Denver.

More about what Knowlton leaving could mean for the ECAC and bracketology.

And McElroy named RPI interim AD

That stock photo of Ken Schott looks like something right out of Anchorman.

Not much of a contest at MSG. Yale has been owning most of the game.

Brown beat Providence to help the conference a little.

Iceberg
Not much of a contest at MSG. Yale has been owning most of the game.

Patrick McNally left the game midway through the 2nd. Might not have been an injury -- according to the Harvard announcers he'd been playing poorly and left in ill temper.

That PC/Brown series had a bit of nastiness and controversy to it. Strange how Cornell hasn't had them as an OOC in a while, but you could say that about most other HE teams really.

Clarkson involved a high scoring game tonight! However, they still lost to Harvard despite hitting the rare mark of 3 goals in a game.

Dartmouth's struggles continues as they take another loss to St. Lawrence. And Yale continues their winning ways by beating a Brown team that they typically struggle against.

And QU taking a close loss at Merrimack, who has hung around the lower part of the top 20 for most of the year.

A lot of overtime games tonight. St. Lawrence beat Yale by the same result of tonight's edition of Fish and Fowl, and Colgate and Dartmouth fought each other to a tie.


More importantly though; When did Clarkson learn how to score goals?

Iceberg
More importantly though; When did Clarkson learn how to score goals?

Since they played Brown.

Iceberg
More importantly though; When did Clarkson learn how to score goals?

A lot of people asked this about Cornell last Friday.

Not too many surprises tonight. RPI back to inconsistentcy, Princeton being whacked by Yale, and Brown managing to lose despite facing a team that has struggled at Meehan. Union manages to inch out a close win against Harvard, who won't have McNally back for the rest of the season.

After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

Trotsky
After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

It's the system.

Trotsky
After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

Still waiting for the Yale and Union national championships to pay off for Cornell like everyone said they would.

BearLover

Trotsky
After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

Still waiting for the Yale and Union national championships to pay off for Cornell like everyone said they would.

And we really couldn't give a crap.

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Trotsky
After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

Still waiting for the Yale and Union national championships to pay off for Cornell like everyone said they would.

And we really couldn't give a crap.

Who said I thought anyone gave a crap about me being right? I assume you do give a crap about Cornell Hockey, which was what I was talking about.

BearLover

Al DeFlorio

BearLover

Trotsky
After the Harvard loss in the Beanpot, for the first time that I can ever remember there are zero ECAC teams in the PWR top 10.

Still waiting for the Yale and Union national championships to pay off for Cornell like everyone said they would.

And we really couldn't give a crap.

Who said I thought anyone gave a crap about me being right? I assume you do give a crap about Cornell Hockey, which was what I was talking about.

Please tell me you weren't expecting a Union NCAA win in April 2014 to "pay off" for Cornell by the following season.

looking at the pairwise it seems like there is decent chance that quin/harv play them selves into a spot where the ECAC only gets its conference winner into the tourney.

Congratulations to Brown for getting their 2nd conference win today. It seemed like it would happen Friday but they had blown it. No such thing on Saturday.

upprdeck
looking at the pairwise it seems like there is decent chance that quin/harv play them selves into a spot where the ECAC only gets its conference winner into the tourney.

The way Harvard's playing right now they'll be lucky to get home ice in the first round of the ECACs.

Q is 13 and look like they've finally put it together. If I were a betting man I'd say they'll go in as a 3 and the different champion (spoiler: us) will go as a 4.

interesting next week. but if you look at what harvard has coming up. 6 games in a row against teams that will be very tough. 4 losses in a row already.

cornell/colgate could jump into first round bye area next week or fall into first round on the road..

best thing for cornell is Quin to show they are the number one team and finish strong

upprdeck
best thing for cornell is Quin to show they are the number one team and finish strong

Indeed, it's time for both Quinnipiac and SLU to win out. Third is our realistic ceiling.

If Colgate can find a way to drop a point here or there, I'd like to see what has traditionally been one of the most fearsome travel partnerships in the league come into full force.

Harvard has 2 more weeks to prepare to lose in the Beanpot.

Jim Hyla
Harvard has 2 more weeks to prepare to lose in the Beanpot.

They won't lose. Harvard dominates consolation games.

That and BC is not exactly a powerhouse this year. I suspect Demko will keep Harvard from scoring too much but I don't think it will be enough.

This is ECAC news of a sort.

I lobby Fritz the Cat as the mascot.

FELIX the Cat was always a favorite of the Big Red Lacrosse teams. I propose NYU Felix.

NYU now plays at Chelsea Piers on NYC's West Side along the Hudson.

Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Yeah, just like us.

Jim Hyla

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Yeah, just like us.

We've been bobbing rather than sinking. We seem to move about 2 slots in either direction depending on result, and the results have been alternating.

Trotsky

Jim Hyla

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Yeah, just like us.

We've been bobbing rather than sinking. We seem to move about 2 slots in either direction depending on result, and the results have been alternating.

Agree, although I didn't say it, I was referring to the "fight their way into NCAA".

Jim Hyla

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Yeah, just like us.

Not quite. We didn't have a peak that we're plummeting from.

ugarte

Jim Hyla

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Yeah, just like us.

Not quite. We didn't have a peak that we're plummeting from.

My response is the same, so see the post right before yours.

Iceberg
Harvard keeps sinking and sinking. It seems like they'll need to fight their way into the NCAA tournament at this point

Harvard is 4-9-1 since Jan 1; 11-1-2 before that.

Sure key injuries hurt, but I'm a person who was expecting the fall back to Earth Hades Cambridge Allston they've experienced. Why would a team that finished 11th in the ECAC last season and dead last two seasons ago suddenly be a National Championship contender? Every year except one since 2008, Harvard finished with a win % in the .300s, and that one was the season they racked up 11 ties.

I'm still pretty surprised Vesey stuck around after his Freshman season. Already their best forward, that team was going nowhere, and took a hit with cheating scandal suspensions...I was sure if anybody in Crimson would bolt for the pros, it was him. Really, I credit his dominance this season is the one and only reason they've made any noise. But there hasn't been any defensive improvement from them, and that's a one-line team. Neutralize that top line, and you've got a good shot.

I want to bring up the goaltending in the league.

In the national GAA rankings, the ECAC has 6 players in the top 15. Of those, four are Sophomores and one is a Freshman. Throw Kruger into the group at #18, because there is a huge drop-off after that. Seven great goalies, none of them Seniors. Gillam (1), Lyon (2), Perry (10), and Finn (14) all in the Class of '17. And the Freshman Hayton (9) has seen more shots than any of them by a wide margin. Really cool.

And #1 vs. #2 on Saturday night. (Unless something messes with this on Friday)

RichH
Sure key injuries hurt, but I'm a person who was expecting the fall back to Earth Hades Cambridge Allston they've experienced. Why would a team that finished 11th in the ECAC last season and dead last two seasons ago suddenly be a National Championship contender? Every year except one since 2008, Harvard finished with a win % in the .300s, and that one was the season they racked up 11 ties.

Ordinarily I'm a big fan of regression as an explanation, but Harvard had so many serious injuries to so many key personnel happen within such a short amount of time that I really do think that's what is the major factor. The only team I can remember getting that fucked was that Yale squad that dominated all year and then lost its whole first line in the last 2 weeks prior to the NCAAs. It is actually enough that I feel sorry for the Crimson, and that takes a lot.

Trotsky
Ordinarily I'm a big fan of regression as an explanation, but Harvard had so many serious injuries to so many key personnel happen within such a short amount of time that I really do think that's what is the major factor.

I admit I haven't been paying much attention to the Crimson's injury situation. I just thought that the team woke up on New Year's Day and collectively realized, "Oh right, our coach is Ted Donato."

Give My Regards

Trotsky
Ordinarily I'm a big fan of regression as an explanation, but Harvard had so many serious injuries to so many key personnel happen within such a short amount of time that I really do think that's what is the major factor.

I admit I haven't been paying much attention to the Crimson's injury situation. I just thought that the team woke up on New Year's Day and collectively realized, "Oh right, our coach is Ted Donato."

No, but on the bright side, that 6-week run might be enough to keep Donato around for a few extra years. "Yes, but this one time back in 2014...."

St. Lawrence and Harvard losing (again) makes it much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

Yeah - going to be weird not to have at least one team to cheer for out of conference loyalty....

Iceberg
St. Lawrence and Harvard losing (again) makes it much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

BearLover

Iceberg
St. Lawrence and Harvard losing (again) makes it much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

I assume you're smiling about Harvard, since it seems like 90% of posters dislike them, but what's wrong with SLU?

Jim Hyla

BearLover

Iceberg
St. Lawrence and Harvard losing (again) makes it much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

I assume you're smiling about Harvard, since it seems like 90% of posters dislike them, but what's wrong with SLU?

That's what I get for not being as selective in what I quote as I should have been:

much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

Jim Hyla

BearLover

Iceberg
St. Lawrence and Harvard losing (again) makes it much more likely that the only autobid will be Quinnipiac.

I assume you're smiling about Harvard, since it seems like 90% of posters dislike them, but what's wrong with SLU?

It's funny how few other college hockey teams I actually like. A friend of mine who is into NHL but not college correctly pointed out that almost every time I see a guy I saw play against Cornell, it's someone I hate.

I guess I like RPI. Clarkson's alright. SLU might be next. I don't actively dislike Yale, though I got really fed up with losing to them for a while. I have no strong opinions about Brown. Quinnipiac is annoying. Union is annoying. Princeton bothers me since I've seen us lose to them more than I'd like. Then there's Colgate, Sucks, and Dartmouth.

Yes, I'm listing Dartmouth last.

(In order from most hated to least)

Teams I hate and would prefer go 0-34
Yale
Dartmouth
Q
Union
Harvard
Colgate

Teams I dislike but wouldn't root hard against until they are in the NCAA's
Princeton
Brown
St. Lawrence
Clarkson
RPI



Hatred is a function of
-how often they beat Cornell (major emphasis on big games)
-winningness on national level (emphasis on recent winning, and if they won a Natty then I have no respect for them whatsoever)
-winningness in ECAC (emphasis on recent winning)
-how chippy their games with Cornell get
-their coaches
-whether they are an Ivy (and thus our rivals even outside of hockey)

And Syracuse in lacrosse falls somewhere in the first category too

Trotsky

RichH
Sure key injuries hurt, but I'm a person who was expecting the fall back to Earth Hades Cambridge Allston they've experienced. Why would a team that finished 11th in the ECAC last season and dead last two seasons ago suddenly be a National Championship contender? Every year except one since 2008, Harvard finished with a win % in the .300s, and that one was the season they racked up 11 ties.

Ordinarily I'm a big fan of regression as an explanation, but Harvard had so many serious injuries to so many key personnel happen within such a short amount of time that I really do think that's what is the major factor. The only team I can remember getting that fucked was that Yale squad that dominated all year and then lost its whole first line in the last 2 weeks prior to the NCAAs. It is actually enough that I feel sorry for the Crimson, and that takes a lot.

That Yale squad has to be the only team to play six post season games in one season and only win one of them.

I might just consider setting up a tennis ball stand on the Dartmouth campus. Maybe they won't kick me off before I make a profit?

Nice.

Trotsky
Nice.

"Hell, even going two hours south to Albany would be a big improvement on this dump.”

Best Onion article ever. Trollolololololol

Kyle Rose

Trotsky
Nice.

"Hell, even going two hours south to Albany would be a big improvement on this dump.”

Best Onion article ever. Trollolololololol

+1

I like this statement by Eruzione, as well:

“I hate to say this, but c’mon, this place is a shithole.

Kyle Rose

Trotsky
Nice.

"Hell, even going two hours south to Albany would be a big improvement on this dump.”

Best Onion article ever. Trollolololololol

Ha.

But, having never actually been to LP, I'm going to say there's no way that's actually true.

I promised my wife that I wouldn't be listening to the games tonight. I didn't promise I wouldn't watch free video. 90 second free clips are available for free.

Onion just scored on the PP.

My incognito mode in Chrome (sorry Jim) has scored five or six times. I lost count.

It didn't hit home that our season was over until I just realized that it was Friday afternoon (West Coast) and I couldn't put on the game. I guess I will have to just get some work done.