2012-13 Schedule

I've also attached the full ECAC schedule.

Cornell Men’s Hockey 2012-2013

Sat 10/13 Red-White
Fri 10/19 US National U-18
Sat 10/20 Brock U
Fri 10/26 Colorado College
Sat 10/27 Colorado College
Fri 11/02 @Colgate
Sat 11/03 Colgate
Fri 11/09 @Princeton
Sat 11/10 @Quinnipiac
Fri 11/16 Harvard
Sat 11/17 Dartmouth

Sat 11/24 U Mich MSG 8PM
Fri 11/30 Clarkson
Sat 12/01 St. Lawrence
Fri 12/28 Ferris @Fla 4PM
Sat 12/29 ?Who @Fla ?When
Fri  1/04 @Denver 9:30 PM
Sat  1/05 @Denver 9 PM
Fri  1/18 @Union
Sat  1/19 @Rensselaer
Fri  1/25 Yale
Sat  1/26 Brown
Fri  2/01 @St. Lawrence
Sat  2/02 @Clarkson
Fri  2/08 Quinnipiac
Sat  2/09 Princeton
Fri  2/15 @Dartmouth
Sat  2/16 @Harvard
Fri  2/22 Rensselaer
Sat  2/23 Union
Fri  3/01 @Brown
Sat  3/02 @Yale

Fri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals

I have a problem with it. You spelled Rensselaer wrong the second time.

I do too. You spelled RPI wrong both times. (And CCT...)

Scersk '97
I do too. You spelled RPI wrong both times. (And CCT...)

At least we're not playing UNH.

Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

[www.gazette.com]

rmandel
Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

[www.gazette.com]

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

Jim Hyla

rmandel
Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

[www.gazette.com]

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006.

Scersk '97

Jim Hyla

rmandel
Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

[www.gazette.com]

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006.

But I don't think CC is the best school to start against. Assuming the earliest we can play is the weekend of 10/19, that means we'd have one weekend of games before them and they would have had three.

They have the 1/6-7 weekend carved out for Cornell this year. Maybe that will be the Lynah weekend next year. Not so good for the fans, but better for the team for the reason you mentioned.

Next October, the Tigers are slated to host Clarkson and travel to Air Force and Cornell.

Edit: Well, that doesn't sound so good. The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26. CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.

Trotsky
They have the 1/6-7 weekend carved out for Cornell this year. Maybe that will be the Lynah weekend next year. Not so good for the fans, but better for the team for the reason you mentioned.

Next October, the Tigers are slated to host Clarkson and travel to Air Force and Cornell.

Edit: Well, that doesn't sound so good. The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26. CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.

So which is it? Or, is it not sounding good, but seeing great?

I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

Jim Hyla

Scersk '97

Jim Hyla

rmandel
Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

[www.gazette.com]

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006.

But I don't think CC is the best school to start against. Assuming the earliest we can play is the weekend of 10/19, that means we'd have one weekend of games before them and they would have had three.

Oh, I completely agree. Starting against Michigan State that season was kind of tough on the team, I think.

Jim Hyla

Edit: Well, that doesn't sound so good. The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26. CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.

So which is it? Or, is it not sounding good, but seeing great?

Does anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?

dpd
Does anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?

Look at thread title.

It seems like it's safe to assume that we'll be playing Michigan on November 24 (the Saturday after Thanksgiving) in MSG.

Jim Hyla

dpd
Does anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?

Look at thread title.

Actually, that's my fault; dpd originally asked the question in another thread, and I moderated it into this thread and made it sticky. Just trying to be helpful, not make anyone look bad.

jtwcornell91

Jim Hyla

dpd
Does anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?

Look at thread title.

Actually, that's my fault; dpd originally asked the question in another thread, and I moderated it into this thread and made it sticky. Just trying to be helpful, not make anyone look bad.

Well, that makes a lot more sense. Sorry dpd.

jtn27
It seems like it's safe to assume that we'll be playing Michigan on November 24 (the Saturday after Thanksgiving) in MSG.

That would be the date but I am still not believing it until a formal announcement is made. We've gotten our hopes up before and then...well, we played Colgate in Newark.

Nov 16-18 would be a good back-to-Ithaca weekend: Harvard Friday and Dartmouth Saturday in hockey, plus football playing Penn Saturday midday, maybe not for the Ivy title but likely for the end to what could be the best Cornell football season in years and years. If only there was wrestling and basketball at home that weekend, too?

billhoward
Nov 16-18 would be a good back-to-Ithaca weekend: Harvard Friday and Dartmouth Saturday in hockey, plus football playing Penn Saturday midday, maybe not for the Ivy title but likely for the end to what could be the best Cornell football season in years and years. If only there was wrestling and basketball at home that weekend, too?

Weekend of Hate.

It's lined up that way a few times, including the last time Cornell was in contention for an Ivy football title in 2000.

css228

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Roy 82

css228

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

Trotsky

Roy 82

css228

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.

Kyle Rose

Trotsky

Roy 82

css228

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.

Related issues like this always make me feel like the only actually smart person I've ever met is Whelan.

Mispost. Blerg.

Kyle Rose

Trotsky

Roy 82

css228

Rita

css228
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers?

What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.

I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.

Ah, ah, ah! Spoilers!

The Florida tournament will be Fri. and Sat., Dec 28 and 29 (source: email response from Craig Brush to my inquiry as to whether the dates were set).
As announced in Estero in December, Ferris St. and UMD will be there. Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.

jkahn
The Florida tournament will be Fri. and Sat., Dec 28 and 29 (source: email response from Craig Brush to my inquiry as to whether the dates were set).
As announced in Estero in December, Ferris St. and UMD will be there. Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.

So I added that and Mich as tentatives.

jkahn
Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.

Love that field.

Josh '99

jkahn
Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.

Love that field.

Maybe No Dak can pick up some tips from the Florida State Seminoles while they're down there.

Joe Battista, Associate Athletic Director for Ice Arena & Hockey Operations at Penn State, made comments during Penn State's last home game as a club team that prompted many in the Penn State hockey blogosphere to speculate that Cornell and Penn State will play each other in the near future (most plans involve Cornell playing Penn State in Lynah next season so that Penn State can play in a historic venue in exchange for Cornell playing at the new Pegula Ice Arena in 2013-14). Battista stated soon after the Pegula gift was announced that he wanted Penn State to play Cornell. Also, Battista is a fan of Notre Dame hockey, a program that he does not mention when discussing fans to whose heckling Penn State will be exposed in what he implied to be the near future, so commentators have read into that. If I had to make a guess of when the game would occur if it does, it would be Friday, October 19.

Joe Battista discussing college hockey fans and future of PSU hockey during Kent State game

For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

[nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com]

Oct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.

Chris '03
For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

[nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com]

Oct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.

Thats a better NC schedule than I would have expected them to get.

In case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced [www.withoutapeer.com].

Chris '03
For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

[nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com]

Oct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.

Scared me a second. I thought you were saying WE were in the Ivy Shootout.

Yale can have it.

ursusminor
In case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced [www.withoutapeer.com].

Interesting that they have their home-and-home series with Union as the kickoff to their ECAC schedule. Does that happen every year, or is this new?

If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

KenP

ursusminor
In case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced [www.withoutapeer.com].

Interesting that they have their home-and-home series with Union as the kickoff to their ECAC schedule. Does that happen every year, or is this new?

If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

I think that it has happened before, but it certainly doesn't always happen. There is a third game (NC) against Union. I agree with you about a symmetric schedule making more sense.

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Also you have to make sure the pizza places in Hamilton are fully staffed that weekend so they can crank out the pizzas the administration needs to entice their students to come to Starr.

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

Kind of like why we have the Yale-Brown and Princetion-Quinnipaic pairings rather than Yale-Q and Brown Princeton.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Robb

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Beeeej

Robb

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep. In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships. Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Beeeej
I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

See 85-91 chart.

jtwcornell91

Beeeej

Robb

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep. In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships. Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

Chris 02

jtwcornell91

Beeeej

Robb

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep. In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships. Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

It opened in '93. But even then, you could take the Parkway to the Turnpike.

Chris 02


Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

Wikipedia knows all

David Harding

Chris 02


Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

Wikipedia knows all

Jeff Hopkins '82

Chris 02

jtwcornell91
Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

It opened in '93. But even then, you could take the Parkway to the Turnpike.

Ah, I remember taking it to Kingston from football games at Penn around Thanksgiving, but come to think of it the first time I did that (without going somewhere else) was in '95.

jtwcornell91

Beeeej

Robb

Beeeej

French Rage

Trotsky

French Rage

Trotsky

KenP
If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring. Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.

Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year. It's not the same otherwise.

Things have changed. The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip. Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed. But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC? Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners? I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep. In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships. Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Since I was curious:

Troy - West Point: 109 mi.
Burlington - Hanover: 96 mi.
New Haven - Princeton: 129 mi. (via the GWB, or 148 mi. via the Tappan Zee)
Cambridge - Providence: 55 mi.
Total: 389 mi. (or 408 mi.)

Troy - Burlington: 146 mi.
Princeton - West Point: 98 mi.
Cambridge - Hanover: 126 mi.
New Haven - Providence: 103 mi.
Total: 473 mi.

The way Robb suggested seemed more intuitive to me as well, and the distances would seem to bear that out, even if you detour completely around NYC on the Princeton-Yale trip. (And even though West Point is further south than I realized.)

I never realized that thinking about historical travel pairings could be so much fun!

Jim Hyla
Fri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals
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A friend just pointed out to me that Spring break next year is Saturday March 16 through Sunday March 24. That means that the ECAC quarterfinals will be during break. If we host the quarterfinals, the student section could be only partially filled. That's not good. It would however mean that there is an increased likelihood of students traveling to the semifinals and finals because they won't have class the day of the semis.

In 2009 I remember our series against RPI was the first weekend of break and alot of people stuck around. Though it would certainly be fewer students, I don't think it would look empty at all.

jtn27
Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.

CowbellGuy

jtn27
Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.

It was full this year.

jtn27

CowbellGuy

jtn27
Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.

It was full this year.

Attendance for Friday's game was 3869.

Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Meh. First round losers. Who are they?

Robb

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Meh. First round losers. Who are they?

So's Michigan.

So basically we're likely to play the entire 2012 Midwest Regional next season?

css228
So basically we're likely to play the entire 2012 Midwest Regional next season?

That's exactly what I was thinking when the NCAA Tournament field was announced.

I hope Cornell and Ferris State play each other in the first round of the Florida College Classic. That would set up an NCAA Tournament rematch for Maine and Minnesota-Duluth, too.

In future opponent news, sophomores Jaden Schwartz of Colorado College and now Jason Zucker of Denver have signed pro contracts.

nyc94
In future opponent news, sophomores Jaden Schwartz of Colorado College and now Jason Zucker of Denver have signed pro contracts.

Blues and the Wild don't seem to be on the schedule?

A reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.




Berenson's answer avoids stating definitively if the game will occur, but seems to imply that it will or at the very least that he wants it to occur.

Red Berenson
Yeah, I hope that it becomes more than a rumor. Nothing has been finalized or announced, but you are on to something. I am not sure what it is or what it will be with the dates they're talking about.

Aaron M. Griffin
A reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.

Wow, that's some chair!

Jordan 04

Aaron M. Griffin
A reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.

Wow, that's some chair!

Or Red is much smaller than I first thought.

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

When would the CC or Denver games fall in that arrangement? I have an estimated schedule of what next season would look like. The only openings are early October and then 1/4 and 1/5 for two-game series. I know that the CC games were rumored to be very early (likely in October), but is it wise to jump in against a team with a few week's experience that early in the season?

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I'm hoping that Atlantic Hockey slot goes to playing Penn State during its first year at the NCAA Division I level.

Also, I thought the adjective forms were Schaferian and unSchaferian.

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver. Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January. Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games. That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver. Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January. Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games. That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).

Actually, I think the Ivies late start date for official team practices (October 15th correct?) is just as bad as the 29 game limit.

Assuming Michigan over Thanksgiving weekend and Denver right after the Estero games, let's hope CC's visit is November 2/3 so we can have at least 2 solid weeks of practice (and an exhibition game) before that.

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

I prefer to write it as THE Ohio State University but quotes works well too.

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.

Chris '03

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.

You are correct about Lenny, but I had to go to Cleveland first.

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

Ah I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I find it interesting that no one on here as noted the effect that losing Casey Jones might have on Cornell recruiting. Who has replaced him in his role as the primary recruiter at Cornell?

Aaron M. Griffin
I find it interesting that no one on here as noted the effect that losing Casey Jones might have on Cornell recruiting. Who has replaced him in his role as the primary recruiter at Cornell?

Ben Syer is the primary recruiter, and he has done well so far. He was a highly regarded recruiter at Quinnipiac before Mike Schafer hired him.

Aaron M. Griffin
Ah I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

Beeeej

Aaron M. Griffin
Ah I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling. I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University."

Aaron M. Griffin

Beeeej

Aaron M. Griffin
Ah I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling. I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University."

No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

Jim Hyla
No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

To establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:

Aaron M. Griffin

Jim Hyla
No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

To establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.

jtn27
You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:

For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).

I did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.

ursusminor
I did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.

I've never understood RPI's (administration's) nominal angst. There's another "technological university" a bit further to the east that's just a "'Tute" (even of "Tech" ), and they seem to do just fine without all the handwringing.

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

Jim Hyla
No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

To establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.

The point (I think) Aaron is making is that we could choose to refer to Cornell as 'The Cornell University' -- but we don't. Students/fans/alumni of An Ohio State University insist on emphasizing the definite article, which makes it fair game for jokes.

Ben
An Ohio State University

"An Ohio State University"?! "An"?!!? "AN"?!?! Need I direct you to the video I posted earlier? You should pay attention to Santonio Holmes. He's a very wise individual and has certainly done nothing to give you reason to doubt his judgment.

Scersk '97

ursusminor
I did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.

I've never understood RPI's (administration's) nominal angst. There's another "technological university" a bit further to the east that's just a "'Tute" (even of "Tech" ), and they seem to do just fine without all the handwringing.

And another Institute of Technology off to the West which happily refers to itself internally as "The University" despite not having the word "University" in its name. (E.g., the PR department is called University News.)

Chris '03

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

French Rage

Trotsky

jkahn

Trotsky

jkahn
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.

Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1? Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.

Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

Don't get me wrong, I love the idea. We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games. Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off. It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.

That game (along with one of the WMU games) illustrated how good the 2002-2003 squad was, in that even on an off night they managed to pull out a win.

Ben

Jim Hyla

Aaron M. Griffin

Jim Hyla
No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

To establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.

The point (I think) Aaron is making is that we could choose to refer to Cornell as 'The Cornell University' -- but we don't. Students/fans/alumni of An Ohio State University insist on emphasizing the definite article, which makes it fair game for jokes.

I totally agree. Reread my posts. I understand that it works against OSU. My point to Aaron was against his sentence: 'Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University." '

I was disagreeing that they could be used against us. No, they couldn't be used against us because we don't say that.