Yale's Problem?
Posted by Jim Hyla
Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 10, 2011 08:22AM
As reported by Adam in CHN Yale may have played an ineligible player, causing them to forfeit some games.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 10, 2011 08:41AM
Interesting situation. The talk on the USCHO boards is that Yale actually cleared things with the NCAA already.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 10, 2011 08:56AM
Here is the delicately-named USCHO thread.
This is the part of Robenhymer's article that may indicate it won't result in sanctions:
I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate. It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine." I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."
It sounds like Yale knew what Cahill was doing every step of the way, so whoever is in charge of sorting out rules issues in the Yale hockey / AD office would have been on the phone with the NCAA the minute Cahill (who Yale fully expected to get back) said he wanted to play in that league.
I really hope Yale's in the clear. We need every strong ECAC team we can get.
This is the part of Robenhymer's article that may indicate it won't result in sanctions:
Back in September, when Cahill was reinstated at Yale, his situation was discussed among the Ivy League members and they felt it was a low enough league in Europe that it wouldn't violate NCAA rules. The problem is...they never actually checked with the NCAA or even the ECAC.
I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate. It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine." I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."
It sounds like Yale knew what Cahill was doing every step of the way, so whoever is in charge of sorting out rules issues in the Yale hockey / AD office would have been on the phone with the NCAA the minute Cahill (who Yale fully expected to get back) said he wanted to play in that league.
I really hope Yale's in the clear. We need every strong ECAC team we can get.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2011 09:18AM by Trotsky.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.net)
Date: January 10, 2011 12:36PM
I broke the dam sent the letter.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 10, 2011 01:39PM
That's what Adam reported as well, but it may not be from a separate source.Trotsky
Here is the delicately-named USCHO thread.
This is the part of Robenhymer's article that may indicate it won't result in sanctions:
Back in September, when Cahill was reinstated at Yale, his situation was discussed among the Ivy League members and they felt it was a low enough league in Europe that it wouldn't violate NCAA rules. The problem is...they never actually checked with the NCAA or even the ECAC.
I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate. It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine." I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."
It sounds like Yale knew what Cahill was doing every step of the way, so whoever is in charge of sorting out rules issues in the Yale hockey / AD office would have been on the phone with the NCAA the minute Cahill (who Yale fully expected to get back) said he wanted to play in that league.
I really hope Yale's in the clear. We need every strong ECAC team we can get.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 10, 2011 06:14PM
Saw it at the end of work. Was going to post it, but you beat me to it before I got home. Thanks for the good reporting.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 10, 2011 06:59PM
Or was someone — like another school's booster, for example (purely speculative) — just trying to stir trouble for the league's first-place team?
Maybe it's that USCHO poster from North Dakota that just can't accept Yale as number 1.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: David Harding (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: January 10, 2011 11:13PM
When the US National Junior Team roster came out I wondered what the implications were of having several AHL players on the team alongside all the college kids.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/11/2011 09:09PM by David Harding.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 11, 2011 08:10AM
Brian Sullivan's twist on the whole thing.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 11, 2011 08:31AM
Yale was 3-29-3 at Bright before last weekend?Al DeFlorio
Speaking of Eli: [www.nytimes.com]
And I like this quote, “We wore them down in the third period, which is typical of what we’re trying to do, Allain said after that game,...". That's used to be our mantra.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: January 11, 2011 08:43AM
Jim Hyla
Yale was 3-29-3 at Bright before last weekend?Al DeFlorio
Speaking of Eli: [www.nytimes.com]
And I like this quote, “We wore them down in the third period, which is typical of what we’re trying to do, Allain said after that game,...". That's used to be our mantra.
Except we did it by beating the crap out of them. Yale does it by out-racing them.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 11, 2011 10:16AM
Depending on how you parse Robenhymer, I think your assumption is correct. I think the "they" in the latter sentence refers to Yale. In other words, the Ivy schools said "this is fine, you should self-report" and Yale decided "no, this is good enough for us."Trotsky
I have a hard time believing the latter sentence is accurate. It may be there is no official record of the NCAA and ECAC approving it (although that would not have been very smart by Yale), but I can't see anybody representing the Ivy League saying "oh sure, that'll be fine." I can see them saying "you need to get a ruling from the NCAA -- they're laughably inconsistent on things like this."
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Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.rbccm.com)
Date: January 11, 2011 02:45PM
Some of you appear to be into that whole Yale thing.
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 16, 2011 10:43PM
Here are the two ECAC recaps, ONE and TWO. It must have been a great game to watch for 1483 fans.nyc94
Brown beats Yale 3-2
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Yale's Problem?
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2011 08:20AM
From version one, the Brown game story: >>> The Bulldogs called a timeout following the goal and pulled Rondeau in favor of the extra attacker with 42 seconds left, but Brown held on in the waning minutes to earn the series split with its travel partnerJim Hyla
Here are the two ECAC recaps, ONE and TWO. It must have been a great game to watch for 1483 fans.nyc94
Brown beats Yale 3-2
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