Attendance policies in ECAC

Quinnipiac just sent out an email tonight announcing that single-game hockey tickets will go on sale Sept. 13. It says spectators, regardless of vaccination status, will be required to have masks on at all times at indoor events. No restrictions, though, on who can buy tickets.
Yale hasn't made any announcements yet for winter sports. For fall sports, only fully vaccinated members of the Yale community are allowed to attend indoor sporting events, such as volleyball.

As if hockey purists weren't upset enough about full masks in college hockey!

I have a feeling cornell will do the same for hockey just because the kids testing is going so poorly .

Why are vaccinated people required to wear masks? Doesn't the shot prevent the virus from entering cells and replicating? The vaccinated shouldn't have viruses to spread except for what they may have just inhaled.

Troyfan
Why are vaccinated people required to wear masks? Doesn't the shot prevent the virus from entering cells and replicating? The vaccinated shouldn't have viruses to spread except for what they may have just inhaled.

Vaccinated people can still carry and spread the virus. They're less likely to do so than the unvaccinated and they're much less likely to get badly sick.

Also, once you open the door to you don't have to wear a mask if you're vaxxed, mask enforcement becomes 1000 times tougher.

Dafatone
Also, once you open the door to you don't have to wear a mask if you're vaxxed, mask enforcement becomes 1000 times tougher.

It becomes Security Theater.

Just let us in the rinks!! I'll be happy to wear a mask, if that's what they deem necessary. Just let us in!!!

Trotsky

Dafatone
Also, once you open the door to you don't have to wear a mask if you're vaxxed, mask enforcement becomes 1000 times tougher.

It becomes Security Theater.

Too late. Already is.

Dafatone

Troyfan
Why are vaccinated people required to wear masks? Doesn't the shot prevent the virus from entering cells and replicating? The vaccinated shouldn't have viruses to spread except for what they may have just inhaled.

Vaccinated people can still carry and spread the virus. They're less likely to do so than the unvaccinated and they're much less likely to get badly sick.

Right, each layer of protection (vaccination, masking, ventilation, distance) reduces the spread.

Dafatone
Also, once you open the door to you don't have to wear a mask if you're vaxxed, mask enforcement becomes 1000 times tougher.

That was what the CDC did with their recommendation about unmasking earlier this year.

I flew to Munich, then back, in an every-seat-booked 767. Everyone had to have a negative test dated < 48 hours before, <72 if it's the better PCR test. I'm still glad everyone was masked. You could still be a carrier w/o being infected. I've had 3 tests for the one-week trip.

Elsewhere you'll see Cornell is cutting Homecoming 2021 to the ... football game. No mega tailgate, no fireworks, both of which outdraw the game. Cornell had a good safety record a year ago, now it's average or below for a university. Cornell is pushing some of the blame out to the Greeks although calling the likely triggers "large social gatherings." That may be true. But as the daughter of a classmate wrote ~5 years ago in The Daily Sun, the Greeks get blamed and/or busted more frequently than GDIs because campus police know where they live and who to blame.

billhoward
the Greeks get blamed and/or busted more frequently than GDIs because campus police know where they live and who to blame.

Counterpoint: Oh, please. Fuck the frats.

Trotsky

billhoward
the Greeks get blamed and/or busted more frequently than GDIs because campus police know where they live and who to blame.

Counterpoint: Oh, please. Fuck the frats.

Counter-counterpoint: The administration dropped the ball by:

• not requiring arrival testing for fully-vaccinated students,
• testing fully-vaccinated individuals anyway as part of survelliance testing and being shocked—SHOCKED—to find cases,
• blaming those cases on students instead of the bungled move-in,
• scheduling Homecoming and the Class of '20 "celebration" for the same weekend,
• trying briefly to impose an outdoor mask mandate during the heat of the summer that was flagrantly anti-science and bound to create apathy and resistance,
• not imposing a vaccination mandate on staff as early as possible,
• not going hammer and tongs at people trying to claim religious objections,
• and a great many other things.

What I've seen is we've gone from leader of the pack to heading towards dunce in fighting COVID in a rational manner. I'm not amused.

at the Dome Sat.. no masks at all for the most part. faculty is pissed.

they are testing thru the roof the last 10 days. They were at 30 cases and Cornell was in the low 100s' now 7 days later they are at 150 and cornell is still at 113..

after the student turn out at the game and the lack of masks it will be interesting to see where they go.

Princeton sent out an email today about its winter sports events. Tickets are available to the public, but attendees must be fully vaccinated (at least two weeks out from final dose) and have to wear a mask over mouth and nose at all times at indoor events. Similar to Yale's policy.Children under 12 may not enter any campus buildings or attend any indoor events.

billhoward
I flew to Munich, then back, in an every-seat-booked 767. Everyone had to have a negative test dated < 48 hours before, <72 if it's the better PCR test. I'm still glad everyone was masked. You could still be a carrier w/o being infected. I've had 3 tests for the one-week trip.

I posted this on the Alumni thread.

Vax rate is nice to know, but since people vax'd can still get the virus and can transmit the virus, knowing the prevalence of Covid is crucial. If Covid was nonexistent in the community, who cares about whether the person next to you is vax'd. But if it's rampant, the vax'd person next to you could be infected and give it to you.

That's why some virologists and public health experts feel the Rapid Test is so valuable. Unlike the PCR test it won't pick up the person with small amounts of virus. However it's very good at picking up people with enough virus in their oral-nasal pharynx to be transmissible.

If you have a negative test, you're not transmissible for at least 6-10 hours. Use of the rapid test is probably the best way to be sure large gatherings are safe.

The PCR is not a "better" test. Great for finding out if you have Covid, but the Rapid test is better for finding out if the person next to you has enough virus to infect you. However doing a Rapid test 48 hours before lift-off is worthless. You could easily have a small amount of undetectable virus 48 hours ago, which is now at a volume to infect your seatmate. Rapid testing right before you enter the terminal would probably be the best.

the best thing is they keep working on testing and come up with a cheaper faster test.. imagine a $1 a test that comes back in 5 min and everyone who entered got test at a game..

upprdeck
the best thing is they keep working on testing and come up with a cheaper faster test.. imagine a $1 a test that comes back in 5 min and everyone who entered got test at a game..

Imagine that it's here.

Rapid Test

Jim Hyla

upprdeck
the best thing is they keep working on testing and come up with a cheaper faster test.. imagine a $1 a test that comes back in 5 min and everyone who entered got test at a game..

Imagine that it's here.

Rapid Test

As mentioned in the article, this is basically the situation in Germany, except that it takes 15 minutes.

Cornell will be allowing fans to attend games this season, including alumni. Must be vaccinated or show negative COVID test. See below:


Last Updated: September 24, 2021 | 11:00am ET.
Please note that government, state, local and University mandates, venue protocols and event requirements are subject to change, so be sure to continue to check BigRedTix.com and CornellBigRed.com for the latest information.

Cornell athletics is excited for a return to competition and to welcome family, friends and fans alike back to campus for the 2021-22 seasons. Our student-athletes, coaches and staff are thrilled for the opportunity to play the sports they love surrounded by your supportive presence.

Any event attendee who is not a current Cornell employee or student (such as alumni, visitors, guests, donors, community members, and others) must provide proof of COVID-19 vaccination or the results of a negative COVID-19 test taken within the prior 72 hours in order to attend. Each employee or student must present a valid Cornell ID to gain entry to a ticketed event.

All faculty, staff, students and visitors – regardless of vaccination status – are required to wear masks when inside campus buildings or facilities. Unvaccinated individuals are also required to wear a mask outdoors where physical distancing is not possible. Please note: this requires that masks must be worn upon entry to the facility as spectators will be in close contact with game day staff.

For a full list of Cornell University COVID-19 policies, click here.

Ticketing Info
Ticketing protocols for all winter sports are currently being reviewed by the University. Updates will be available at bigredtix.com.

Bag Policy
To uphold health and safety protocols, minimize contact and ensure a swifter entry process, Cornell athletics strongly discourages guests from bringing bags. If a bag is necessary, all bags are subject to inspection. Attendees with prohibited items will not be permitted entry to the arena. Bags may not exceed 10"x 8"x 6" in size. Guests are asked to plan accordingly and allow for extra time when arriving.

the email they just sent out sounds like limited capacity is being done. I emailed them for clarity on this.

For those of you planning on going to Lynah East this year, Harvard just announced its attendance policy for winter sports. All attendees above age 12 (which I assume is everyone on this listserv) must either be fully vaccinated or have proof of a negative PCR test from the past 72 hours. For all indoor contests, fans are required to wear a mask at all times. Children under 12 may attend, but must remain masked as well.

So we are not going to 100% for the beginning of the season.. The reality is we have been more like 75% than 100% for years anyway for most games.. I wonder if they group tickets in a way to make it 50% at the start or go to something higher?

upprdeck
So we are not going to 100% for the beginning of the season.. The reality is we have been more like 75% than 100% for years anyway for most games.. I wonder if they group tickets in a way to make it 50% at the start or go to something higher?

They could just hold back certain seats and try to achieve, say, alternating seating as for an exam. Then go to blocks of 2 with one space after several weekends. Then blocks of 3, and so on... Maybe we could get to full capacity by the post-season, as everyone by then will be either on boosters or the nudniks will have offed themselves to own the libs.

it will be interesting to see how it works.. look at SU about 50% showing up with no real rules on masks, how many townies will show up having to wear masks? they might cap out 75% and still have 50% for many games.. the season tickets people bought might take a big hit after its done. if you dont care about seat location other than Harvard pretty easy to get tickets any more. Most of the people I sat with the last 30 yrs are gone. much less reason to get season tickets and this may push many to not re-up

Individual games are now listed with ticket sale dates posted.

It will interesting to see just how much they lower capacity and how many tickets they sell to make it matter.. I dont expect the first game to be very full anyway in a normal year.

not a cornell hockey thing, but the Cornell announcement today that they will require 100% of employees to get a shot now must also extend to kids doing research on federal things. I wonder how this will effect those florida college getting federal money?

DeSatan will sue the federal government. He likes to sue agencies and withhold $$. Life in Floridumb.

We dodged a bullet not going to the Everblades anymore.

margolism
Individual games are now listed with ticket sale dates posted.

Logged in this am and no problems getting tickets. Looks like they are selling general admission by section.

logged in to cornell to get tickets?

upprdeck
logged in to cornell to get tickets?

Yes, Cornell Big Red Tickets Sign in with NetID and you're off and running.

You sign in under Students/Faculty/Staff. Never understood why they didn't mention Alumni with that.

cornellbigredtix.com

I logged in today.. it said no tickets until 10/12. and cornellbigredtix.com is not a thing for me..invalid url..

upprdeck
I logged in today.. it said no tickets until 10/12. and cornellbigredtix.com is not a thing for me..invalid url..

My link above works. Season ticket holders today, general public tomorrow. The same every week.

For anyone interested you can now purchase Season Parking online for $100.

I emailed athletics. probably get a a response in a couple weeks..

ha.. so it turns out that if you have a golf membership the software doesnt allow you to buy hockey tickets until after the golf course closes..

well done athletics.

Email from CU this am.

Cornell Athletic Ticketing
Good Morning!

We look forward to welcoming fans back to Lynah Rink on Saturday night for the men’s ice hockey exhibition game vs. Princeton at 7pm.

A couple of updates/reminders we wanted to share:

- Cornell University has just released updated guidance for children under the age of 12 at spectator events: Children under the age of 12 do NOT need documentation (of a negative COVID test), but must remain masked indoors at all times.

- ALL attendees must stop at the COVID checkpoints to receive a wristband for entry.

- CU Students ONLY will enter through the main Lynah Rink entrance (on Campus Rd, across from Schoellkopf/Friends Hall). Students must present their CU ID card to get a wristband, and then have their student ticket (Sections A-F only) at the Lynah entrance.

- All other attendees (Sections F-0, Balcony and Box Seats) must enter through the Bartels main entrance. There will be signs directing you to the COVID checkpoint in the Bartels hallway. Cornell faculty/staff must present a CU ID card to get a wristband, and all other attendees (ages 12 and older) must provide proof of COVID-19 vaccination or the results of a negative COVID-19 test taken within 72 hours.

- Children under the age of 12 do NOT need documentation, but must remain masked indoors at all times, and must still stop at COVID checkpoints for a wristband.

- After receiving your wristband, please proceed to the gate to have your ticket scanned.

- COVID checkpoints open at 5:30pm; gates open at 6:00pm.

- BAG POLICY: To uphold health and safety protocols, minimize contact and ensure a swifter entry process, Cornell athletics strongly discourages guests from bringing bags. If a bag is necessary, all bags are subject to inspection. Attendees with prohibited items will not be permitted entry to the arena. Bags may not exceed 10"x 8"x 6" in size.

- FOOD & DRINK POLICY: Food and drink are not be permitted at indoor events. Until further notice, there will be no concessions available at indoor events.

Saturday’s game has limited capacity (restricted by section) as we navigate these new event protocols. Your game ticket is valid ONLY in the section purchased, and seating within each section is general admission. Fans are strongly encouraged to distance from other groups within the section.

For information about parking on game night, please visit the “Parking” tab on bigedtix.com or click HERE.

Please let us know if you have any questions!

GO BIG RED!

- Cornell Athletic Ticketing

wonder who the email went out to? the no food policy while masked is something that makes sense but very few places are doing.

upprdeck
wonder who the email went out to? the no food policy while masked is something that makes sense but very few places are doing.

So they’re basically making the experience as pleasurable as flying.

if you really think its a matter of safety then no food is a good policy. if you want to wink wink at being safe then do stuff like SU is doing where a mask is required except while eating/drinking and then ignore it completely when people are walking around with no masks on.

So right now in the sections you can buy seats G-O there are only 4 where you can still buy 2 seats now . I wonder what limit they put on the sections for max capacity. Were E-F every opened up this week to buy? you can still buy groups of 10 in those four sections as well so there are seats to go.

upprdeck
if you really think its a matter of safety then no food is a good policy. if you want to wink wink at being safe then do stuff like SU is doing where a mask is required except while eating/drinking and then ignore it completely when people are walking around with no masks on.

To give an example of the varying degrees of seriousness about masking and eating, I saw a picture of a placard in an indoor restaurant from an East Asian country (I forget which) which instructed people not to talk while eating. (I.e., take the mask off to eat, but put it back on before talking.)

Maybe it's just me but who the hell eats at a sporting event anyways. Eat beforehand. I'm too busy yelling and jumping and such to consider eating a meal at that moment. But that may be just me.

French Rage
Maybe it's just me but who the hell eats at a sporting event anyways. Eat beforehand. I'm too busy yelling and jumping and such to consider eating a meal at that moment. But that may be just me.

Food's like the fourth best part of going to a baseball game.

Dafatone

French Rage
Maybe it's just me but who the hell eats at a sporting event anyways. Eat beforehand. I'm too busy yelling and jumping and such to consider eating a meal at that moment. But that may be just me.

Food's like the fourth best part of going to a baseball game.

Baseball is the most conducive sport for eating of any sport given it’s languid pace and breaks between innings.

French Rage
Maybe it's just me but who the hell eats at a sporting event anyways. Eat beforehand. I'm too busy yelling and jumping and such to consider eating a meal at that moment. But that may be just me.

I don't eat at the hockey games either.... But, I damn well enjoy a beverage! I think eliminating that is not fan-friendly when you consider all of the yelling & sore throats at Lynah. I WILL be smuggling a beverage into the game!!!

dont eat much at a game.. might have a soda on occasion.. But there have been times i got there early from work and was hungry

French Rage
Maybe it's just me but who the hell eats at a sporting event anyways. Eat beforehand. I'm too busy yelling and jumping and such to consider eating a meal at that moment. But that may be just me.

For people whose natural dinnertime is around 8pm, not being able to eat between 6:45 and 9:30 is kind of inconvenient.

jtwcornell91
For people whose natural dinnertime is around 8pm

they should be snuffed out as freaks.

looked like most sections had maybe 25-50 people in them last night.

upprdeck
looked like most sections had maybe 25-50 people in them last night.

One of people at the entry point mentioned that they sold 100 tickets per section. Secs B & D seemed to have more than 100 bodies. 100 per section equates to around 1500 planned attendance.

the big jump in positives on campus this week isnt gonna help them to relax things anytime soon.

Schafer said in his weekly email that capacity was limited to 1500 for Princeton but that they hope it will be more this weekend.

1500 wonder what the real crowd was, didnt look like even 1000 were there based on the townie side.

upprdeck
1500 wonder what the real crowd was, didnt look like even 1000 were there based on the townie side.

B was about 3/4 full. Maybe 1/2 C & D. Although only sold enough townie tickets to keep distancing, obviously no distancing for students.

Rumor has it that next weekend they will expand to full attendance at Lynah

It will be interesting to see if they adjust policy given that nothing has really changed in the state for a couple of months. Still pretty much stuck on 4500 a day getting sick. the school is still seeing 3-5 new cases a day as well.

I just purchased tickets for the two Alaska-Fairbanks games. They are now selling reserved seat tickets, not general admission for a selected section. Maybe we're making another step toward normal (whatever that means).

Plans for the upcoming season-opening @CornellMHockey series against Alaska are to allow up to full capacity. Tickets go on sale to the public at 10 a.m. tomorrow #YellCornell [t.co]
(📸: Ned Dykes/Cornell Athletics) pic.twitter.com/5NQ3mKFQxU

— Cornell Big Red (@CornellSports) October 25, 2021

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redice
I just purchased tickets for the two Alaska-Fairbanks games. They are now selling reserved seat tickets, not general admission for a selected section. Maybe we're making another step toward normal (whatever that means).

Still cant buy mine since the system is screwed up.. You would think they would send an email to STH to let them know the policy changes..

Will they get a better crowd now will be interesting to see.

so I get a ticket and it says go to the Medical checkpoint before entering.. I click the HERE link there is no mention of checkpoint locations at that link.. is it still a thing?

Yep there is. All non-students enter at Bartels Hall entrance next to the ticket office. First go through vaccination/ID check, get a wrist band, then head back toward Lynah to have your ticket scanned. All fairly civilized.

Looks like Yale is limiting capacity for hockey to 75% and not selling individual game tickets. Season tickets only.

[athletics.ticketing.yale.edu]

Chris '03
Looks like Yale is limiting capacity for hockey to 75% and not selling individual game tickets. Season tickets only.

[athletics.ticketing.yale.edu]

Given how bad Yale appears to be this year (don't strike me down woofing gods), I don't think they'll have to worry about maxing out their attendance.

I was actually considering seeing the game at Yale in January until I saw that notice. Looks like a trip there will have to wait until yet another season

Iceberg
I was actually considering seeing the game at Yale in January until I saw that notice. Looks like a trip there will have to wait until yet another season

Considering that they only have had crowds of 1/3 capacity so far, by January they may be selling individual tickets. By then they'll know how many season tickets they've sold.