Scrivens / Olympic Men's Hockey

Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

He's not the answer.

But he's too small!


Interesting moves by SUI. They pulled their goalie down 4-0 with 12:27 left because they were on the PP. They then scored to make it 4-1. With about 6 minutes left, they pull the goalie again even strength. This time CAN scores the ENG 30 seconds later. 5-1 game over.

Trotsky

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

He's not the answer.

+1

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

Well, to be fair, compared to team USA, they had more than 5 days of practice.

How has nobody pointed out that Noah Welch is on team USA?? Remember his first NHL goal? I do. It was an own goal.

Swampy

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

Well, to be fair, compared to team USA, they had more than 5 days of practice.

Obviously at this point everyone is rooting for our alum. Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

toddlose
Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

Hopefully.

Trotsky

toddlose
Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

Hopefully.

Men’s AND women’s? Women’s I can kind of understand.

toddlose

Trotsky

toddlose
Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

Hopefully.

Men’s AND women’s? Women’s I can kind of understand.

Same deal for the men. Get Ben his gold.

Trotsky

toddlose

Trotsky

toddlose
Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

Hopefully.

Men’s AND women’s? Women’s I can kind of understand.

Same deal for the men. Get Ben his gold.

I’ll be with you with the women. Ben can deal with the silver.

Although I don’t think we will have to deal with that decision for the gold medal for the men

I'm with the USA. I share ugarte s. Jingo fever.

And Omg Donato. With the big sheet and the high end talent, he looks even better than I thoughtfrom his play with Harvard.

Swampy

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

Well, to be fair, compared to team USA, they had more than 5 days of practice.

Right. Herb Brooks didn't do it that way. Yes, I've watched every one of the 75 showings of Miracle on cable this month.

I re-watched Miracle, Alaska this week.

It is a very, very bad movie.

Trotsky
I re-watched Miracle, Alaska this week.

It is a very, very bad movie.

It's Mystery Alaska. And shut up.

French Rage

Trotsky
I re-watched Miracle, Alaska this week.

It is a very, very bad movie.

It's Mystery Alaska. And shut up.

LOL, you're right. But it's still awful.

Miracle, OTOH is a very good movie.

Trotsky
Miracle, OTOH is a very good movie.

I hate the Disney corporation as much as anybody, but dammit, I'm only human.

RichH

Trotsky
Miracle, OTOH is a very good movie.

I hate the Disney corporation as much as anybody, but dammit, I'm only human.

If you want to watch quality hockey dreck watch Youngblood.

Trotsky

RichH

Trotsky
Miracle, OTOH is a very good movie.

I hate the Disney corporation as much as anybody, but dammit, I'm only human.

If you want to watch quality hockey dreck watch Youngblood.

Yum. Cynthia Gibb.

I watched Mystery, Alaska, once. When the Rangers won, I swore I'd never watch it again.

As to rooting for the US men, I keep hearing Ryan Donato and Noah Welch called on the PBP. Makes me want to puke.

Scrivens! Scrivens! Scrivens!

Trotsky

RichH

Trotsky
Miracle, OTOH is a very good movie.

I hate the Disney corporation as much as anybody, but dammit, I'm only human.

If you want to watch quality hockey dreck watch Youngblood.

Watch Goon.

'Skank' Marden: "I play hockey and I fornicate, 'cause those are the two most fun things to do in cold weather."

TimV
'Skank' Marden: "I play hockey and I fornicate, 'cause those are the two most fun things to do in cold weather."

Stevie Weeks: Birdie. I'm sorry. I didn't even get the condom on. It was 'cause of your sister's breasts. They're perky!
'Birdie' Burns: [Punches Stevie in the face]
Dr. Henry Savage: [sighs] Well, he's out again.

toddlose

Swampy

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

Well, to be fair, compared to team USA, they had more than 5 days of practice.

Obviously at this point everyone is rooting for our alum. Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

My intl hockey rooting interests:
An team with a Cornellian
SUI
USA
CAN
everybody else
RUSOAR

jtwcornell91

toddlose

Swampy

marty

Scersk '97
Scrivens, goalie; .966 sv%

CAN 5 SUI 1

They must have a good SYSTEM!

Well, to be fair, compared to team USA, they had more than 5 days of practice.

Obviously at this point everyone is rooting for our alum. Am I in the minority rooting for us (USA)over Canada if/when they play each other?

My intl hockey rooting interests:
An team with a Cornellian
SUI
USA
CAN
everybody else
RUSOAR

Q: What do they call the unit where the Russian Hockey players live?
A: The OARhouse.

I'm actually really comfortable pulling for Donato Jr. (And Teddy, since now he's the poster-parent of the team in the stands.) Especially considering that if Ryan is now considered the #1 star of Team USA, there's a greater shot of him not being in Allston next season. The NBC announcing crew were joining all Cornell fans about the prospect of him turning pro...like NOW. This is much more exposure to the hockey-loving public than any Hobey statuette could bring.

Now I can bring myself to root for Donato, but Noah Welch?? Him?? Ughhhh.

RichH
I'm actually really comfortable pulling for Donato Jr. (And Teddy, since now he's the poster-parent of the team in the stands.) Especially considering that if Ryan is now considered the #1 star of Team USA, there's a greater shot of him not being in Allston next season. The NBC announcing crew were joining all Cornell fans about the prospect of him turning pro...like NOW. This is much more exposure to the hockey-loving public than any Hobey statuette could bring.

Now I can bring myself to root for Donato, but Noah Welch?? Him?? Ughhhh.

There are a lot of people, including John Buccigross, speculating that Donato will turn pro this season. I don't buy it. Ryan's dad is the coach and his brother is a teammate. The family doesn't *need* the money a one-year NHL salary would provide. And Harvard has a great recruiting class coming in next year. I'm not saying he wouldn't leave, but it's far from a sure thing.

RichH
Now I can bring myself to root for Donato, but Noah Welch?? Him?? Ughhhh.

As I said, hearing the names of those Yalies is reactivating my Atlantic City PTSD.

(But Teddy? Cute as a button! A bald button.)

BearLover

RichH
I'm actually really comfortable pulling for Donato Jr. (And Teddy, since now he's the poster-parent of the team in the stands.) Especially considering that if Ryan is now considered the #1 star of Team USA, there's a greater shot of him not being in Allston next season. The NBC announcing crew were joining all Cornell fans about the prospect of him turning pro...like NOW. This is much more exposure to the hockey-loving public than any Hobey statuette could bring.

Now I can bring myself to root for Donato, but Noah Welch?? Him?? Ughhhh.

There are a lot of people, including John Buccigross, speculating that Donato will turn pro this season. I don't buy it. Ryan's dad is the coach and his brother is a teammate. The family doesn't *need* the money a one-year NHL salary would provide. And Harvard has a great recruiting class coming in next year. I'm not saying he wouldn't leave, but it's far from a sure thing.

I think he stays for the reasons you mention. If his dad weren’t the coach then I think he would go. Remember that Vesey stayed his senior year.

A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment. He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

abmarks
A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment. He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

Beeeej

abmarks
A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment. He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

Plenty of players, including several recent Cornellians, have gone pro immediately after their last college game. Sean Collins, for instance, did it for Cornell (I think there are quite a few other recent examples too). I believe Sean returned to school once the season ended, though he only played in the AHL. A more high-profile example is Chris Kreider, who scored five goals in the playoffs for the Rangers the same year he won a national championship at BC.

BearLover

Beeeej

abmarks
A factor in favor of leaving right after the Olympics is that the Bruins are 3rd in the NHL in points at the moment. He'd be going to a team with ~20 games left in the regular season that has a good chance at a deep Stanley Cup run.

Even if I thought he was ready to go pro at the end of this season, I have a hard time imagining him leaving now, when Harvard still has a chance - however minor - of making a playoff run. I would think he'd fight for an ECAC title and a spot in the NCAAs to the bitter end, then make the jump. Is it no longer possible under current NHL deadlines to do that, as Ken Dryden did in 1969?

Plenty of players, including several recent Cornellians, have gone pro immediately after their last college game. Sean Collins, for instance, did it for Cornell (I think there are quite a few other recent examples too). I believe Sean returned to school once the season ended, though he only played in the AHL. A more high-profile example is Chris Kreider, who scored five goals in the playoffs for the Rangers the same year he won a national championship at BC.

I kind of thought so.

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the 4x3 to start the ot will haunt me. there was a guy camped in front and we just uselessly slid it around the outside for 30 seconds.

ugarte
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the 4x3 to start the ot will haunt me. there was a guy camped in front and we just uselessly slid it around the outside for 30 seconds.

That was the single biggest waste of a PP opportunity I think I've ever seen, and I had to watch Cornell's PP in the mid-90s.

Scrivens injured in the CAN-FIN game. Upper body injury.

Scrivens was not in goal in Canada's 4-3 loss to Germany. Our visions of hockey and 6 gold medals for Cornellians are dashed.

Didn't that dashing happen after the Women's game was decided?

Nice to see Scrivens celebrating on the ice with his teammates after Canada wins the bronze medal. Too bad he got injured and couldn't play in the medal round. It was a crazy third period in the Canada-Czech Republic bronze medal game.

That's the first bronze in Cornell Olympic hockey history.

am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

you still have to win to get the silver.. you just didnt lose the last game.

The Rancor
am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

There was some study done some time ago, that may even have been done by a Cornell researcher, that showed, based on facial expression or something, that bronze medal winners were on average happier than silver medal winners. If I can find anything about the study in a quick search I'll post it.

Edit: I was correct about Cornell researchers being involved. (That may be why I knew about it.) Here's an article:

[blogs.scientificamerican.com]

andyw2100

The Rancor
am i crazy for thinking bronze is better than silver? you have to WIN a bronze, the silver you get for losing.

There was some study done some time ago, that may even have been done by a Cornell researcher, that showed, based on facial expression or something, that bronze medal winners were on average happier than silver medal winners. If I can find anything about the study in a quick search I'll post it.

Edit: I was correct about Cornell researchers being involved. (That may be why I knew about it.) Here's an article:

[blogs.scientificamerican.com]

I think in general finishing a close second is worse psychologically than finishing a distant third (at the time, at least) but I don't think, for example, the jockey in second behind Secretariat would rather have been in third. In bracket-elimination sports, there has to be some lift to winning the consolation game instead of finishing on a downer.

So, Senifeld's routine had a scientific basis? Seinfeld Silver Medal

mountainred
So, Senifeld's routine had a scientific basis? Seinfeld Silver Medal

Like the Big Fat Goalie thesis, Bronze > Silver is something that occurs to everyone the first time they think about it.

In team sports where there is a "bronze medal game", the bronze medal winner finishes on a win. The silver medal winner finishes with a loss. That may help in a way,

Although OTOH winning the consy in the ECAC tourney is comparable, and I never felt like that was winning anything when we won it.

Jeff Hopkins '82
In team sports where there is a "bronze medal game", the bronze medal winner finishes on a win. The silver medal winner finishes with a loss. That may help in a way,

Although OTOH winning the consy in the ECAC tourney is comparable, and I never felt like that was winning anything when we won it.

I think there was one year where it actually mattered for whether we got an at-large NCAA bid, but those circumstances were exceedingly rare.

Yeah, the year we beat Colgate in AC we needed that win to get in.

That's an exception, not the rule. That's why they eliminated the consy in most conference tourneys, right?

Jeff Hopkins '82
That's an exception, not the rule. That's why they eliminated the consy in most conference tourneys, right?

That was done at the behest of the coaches who hated them and thought they just risked injury because the players didn't play them with any degree of awareness or effort (which is dangerous).

Trotsky

Jeff Hopkins '82
That's an exception, not the rule. That's why they eliminated the consy in most conference tourneys, right?

That was done at the behest of the coaches who hated them and thought they just risked injury because the players didn't play them with any degree of awareness or effort (which is dangerous).

Fair point.