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CU at Union

Posted by TimV 
CU at Union
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 17, 2013 04:55PM

Union Coach Bennett has our size on his mind.

Who's gonna be there? Only SRO tickets left.

 
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"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2013 04:57PM by TimV.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 17, 2013 06:56PM

Me, alone :(

 
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 10:29AM

Jim Hyla
Me, alone :(

You bought out the entire arena, Jim? Impressive. banana
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: ursusminor (---.washdc.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 12:09PM

RichH
Jim Hyla
Me, alone :(

You bought out the entire arena, Jim? Impressive. banana

If that arena were on eBay, it would probably fetch about $5.00. ;)
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 12:18PM

ursusminor
RichH
Jim Hyla
Me, alone :(

You bought out the entire arena, Jim? Impressive. banana

If that arena were on eBay, it would probably fetch about $5.00. ;)

Haha, and they'd throw in Starr for free.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 18, 2013 01:14PM

RichH
Jim Hyla
Me, alone :(

You bought out the entire arena, Jim? Impressive. banana

Ha, ha, not bad.

More seriously, from the Ithaca Journal article on this weekend:


including a disqualification on Big Red sophomore forward John McCarron for “obscene language,” an infraction that all associated with Cornell, including Schafer, insist did not happen.

The sequence in question, which occurred after the final horn of the second game, a 2-1 Denver win, is under review by commissioners from both ECAC Hockey and the Western Collegiate Athletic Association.

If that's the case, too bad you can't postpone the games off, till final decision.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Ben (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 18, 2013 01:24PM

Jim Hyla
More seriously, from the Ithaca Journal article on this weekend:


including a disqualification on Big Red sophomore forward John McCarron for “obscene language,” an infraction that all associated with Cornell, including Schafer, insist did not happen.

The sequence in question, which occurred after the final horn of the second game, a 2-1 Denver win, is under review by commissioners from both ECAC Hockey and the Western Collegiate Athletic Association.

If that's the case, too bad you can't postpone the games off, till final decision.
That was almost two weeks ago. How long can it possibly take to review the footage and reports?
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-215-9.myvzw.com)
Date: January 18, 2013 06:31PM

McCarron is on the ice.

Appeal? Is that why he's here?
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 06:59PM

marty
McCarron is on the ice.

Appeal? Is that why he's here?
Let's hope it's in writing.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 07:01PM

Mihalek back, too.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: carpy85 (66.152.117.---)
Date: January 18, 2013 08:40PM

marty
McCarron is on the ice.

Appeal? Is that why he's here?

McCarrons offence was dropped and given to Rodger Craig.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 10:02PM

Great effort tonight, and a big comeback win on the road against a competitor for a bye.

It's been a long break (2 months) since the last league game but this continues Cornell's ECAC winning streak, and puts them back over .500 in league for the first time since game 2.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2013 10:03PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 10:15PM

Also, on the off chance that Jason ever visits here, and for our edification, can somebody who knows (Arthur, I assume) please confirm the following situation.

During play tonight, De Swardt (or maybe Mowrey) ripped a shot off the post. No goal was signaled and play continued, and on a subsequent rush Cornell scored. The first shot was reviewed. The question is, if the first shot is ruled a goal, is the clock simply rewound to the time of the first shot with everything afterwards ignored?

BTW, what if an infraction occurs in the "lost period"? Does it count? If so, what about a too many men? Even worse, what about a too many men which Cornell then scores on during the delayed penalty?

The simplest solution would seem to be: penalties still count, they are assessed at the time of the original shot, but a goal on a delayed call, like the secondary goal, would not count. A really fun situation would occur, however, if a penalty shot was called. If the penalty shot were allowed to take place, a team could be credited with two goals at the same instant. Indeed, each team could be credited with a goal at the same instant, causing generations of subsequent box score reviewers' heads to explode.
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 01/18/2013 10:20PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: css228 (---.public.wayport.net)
Date: January 18, 2013 10:25PM

Trotsky
Also, on the off chance that Jason ever visits here, and for our edification, can somebody who knows (Arthur, I assume) please confirm the following situation.

During play tonight, De Swardt (or maybe Mowrey) ripped a shot off the post. No goal was signaled and play continued, and on a subsequent rush Cornell scored. The first shot was reviewed. The question is, if the first shot is ruled a goal, is the clock simply rewound to the time of the first shot with everything afterwards ignored?

BTW, what if an infraction occurs in the "lost period"? Does it count? If so, what about a too many men? Even worse, what about a too many men which Cornell then scores on during the delayed penalty?

The simplest solution would seem to be: penalties still count, they are assessed at the time of the original shot, but a goal on a delayed call, like the secondary goal, would not count. A really fun situation would occur, however, if a penalty shot was called. If the penalty shot were allowed to take place, a team could be credited with two goals at the same instant. :)
Yes, its rewound to the first goal and everything that happened after is supposed to be ignored. In practice they're not going to review it if the same team scored that next goal. They only really bother to review the first goal if the other team scores. Especially if they're ECAC refs who can't be bothered to learn what constitutes offsides.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2013 12:51AM





"I thought we were playing the Russian Red Army from back in the 70s..."

 
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2013 12:53AM by TimV.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: unionhockeynews (---.albyny.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2013 01:19AM

I also have postgame pressers with Schafer as well as Bardreau/Ferlin: click here
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2013 08:53AM

TimV




"I thought we were playing the Russian Red Army from back in the 70s..."

All I can say is, "na zdorovie"!

Ferlin looked like the Ferlin of old, Bardreau is back (!!!) and Espo was his usual, dependable self.
Plus, no stupid penalties!

Looking forward to tonight, for a change.

banana
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: upprdeck (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2013 08:59AM

more interesting is what happens if you commit a major of some type that would be a DQ does that also get ignored?
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: css228 (---.public.wayport.net)
Date: January 19, 2013 09:35AM

Johnny 5
TimV




"I thought we were playing the Russian Red Army from back in the 70s..."

All I can say is, "na zdorovie"!

Ferlin looked like the Ferlin of old, Bardreau is back (!!!) and Espo was his usual, dependable self.
Plus, no stupid penalties!

Looking forward to tonight, for a change.

banana
Well McCarron did take that one in the offensive zone when we had a powerplay.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Johnny 5 (---.syrcny.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 19, 2013 10:06AM

css228
Johnny 5
TimV




"I thought we were playing the Russian Red Army from back in the 70s..."

All I can say is, "na zdorovie"!

Ferlin looked like the Ferlin of old, Bardreau is back (!!!) and Espo was his usual, dependable self.
Plus, no stupid penalties!

Looking forward to tonight, for a change.

banana
Well McCarron did take that one in the offensive zone when we had a powerplay.

Ooops!
Well, at least he didn't get a DQ for it!!

Maybe I missed it because I was watching the Union video feed on my laptop.
It made Redcast look like high-def.
The vid was blurry & red tinted, and the audio was indecipherable.
I finally used the WHCU audio.
What a bargain for $8.95!!

rock
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2013 10:13AM by Johnny 5.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: TimV (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2013 11:25AM

Johnny 5

The vid was blurry & red tinted, and the audio was indecipherable.

That's funny... I was AT the game and noticed the same thing: everything was red tinted and the audio was indecipherable.woot

 
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Re: CU at Union
Posted by: css228 (---.sub-70-192-10.myvzw.com)
Date: January 19, 2013 11:55AM

Johnny 5
css228
Johnny 5
TimV




"I thought we were playing the Russian Red Army from back in the 70s..."

All I can say is, "na zdorovie"!

Ferlin looked like the Ferlin of old, Bardreau is back (!!!) and Espo was his usual, dependable self.
Plus, no stupid penalties!

Looking forward to tonight, for a change.

banana
Well McCarron did take that one in the offensive zone when we had a powerplay.

Ooops!
Well, at least he didn't get a DQ for it!!

Maybe I missed it because I was watching the Union video feed on my laptop.
It made Redcast look like high-def.
The vid was blurry & red tinted, and the audio was indecipherable.
I finally used the WHCU audio.
What a bargain for $8.95!!

rock
Yeah, it was that power play during the 2nd that we were on for about a minute and dominating. Took a tripping I believe.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 19, 2013 12:56PM

For those who want it, the game is being rebroadcast on TWC S2 & TWC S3, 1026 & 1027 in Syracuse, Sunday at 11:30 AM. I haven't seen it listed on their Sports On Demand. It might only go to Cap District.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: ACM (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 21, 2013 11:19AM

Trotsky
Also, on the off chance that Jason ever visits here, and for our edification, can somebody who knows (Arthur, I assume) please confirm the following situation.

...

1. Here is a link to the rule book: NCAA Publications site. This will give you an opportunity to become as frustrated with the (poor) organization and (lack of) style that makes figuring out the rules so difficult. Maybe Age can add the link to the forum sidebar.

2. The Secretary / Rules Editor of the NCAA Men's and Women's Ice Hockey Rules Committee is Steve Piotrowski, spiotrowski@ccha.com. I'm sure he would be glad to give his interpretation of the specific situation you cited. I looked in the obvious places, but couldn't find anything.
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 21, 2013 12:55PM

As long as we're talking rules, here is a link to a USCHO article on a change in recruiting rules.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: marty (---.sub-70-215-8.myvzw.com)
Date: January 21, 2013 01:39PM

Jim Hyla
As long as we're talking rules, here is a link to a USCHO article on a change in recruiting rules.

USCHO
Limits on electronic communication such as email and text messages were removed as long as the messages are private.

Stalking allowed as long as it is done in private.whistle
 
Re: CU at Union
Posted by: profudge (---.hmpt.ny.frontiernet.net)
Date: January 21, 2013 04:07PM

Quote from Adam's rule changes article I find interesting:

Adam Wodon
A potentially interesting side effect to that rule is that it also pertains to a signed offer of admission or financial aid. This would allow Ivy League schools, and others that don't use Letters of Intent, to also treat those recruits like their own student-athletes. The ramification may be that Ivy League players who signed an offer of admission or financial aid, will be "hands off" to other teams, they same way those who have signed NLIs currently are. Officials are still examining the ramifications.

The changes are set to go into effect August 1, 2013.

 
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Re: CU at Union
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 21, 2013 05:12PM

profudge
Quote from Adam's rule changes article I find interesting:

Adam Wodon
A potentially interesting side effect to that rule is that it also pertains to a signed offer of admission or financial aid. This would allow Ivy League schools, and others that don't use Letters of Intent, to also treat those recruits like their own student-athletes. The ramification may be that Ivy League players who signed an offer of admission or financial aid, will be "hands off" to other teams, they same way those who have signed NLIs currently are. Officials are still examining the ramifications.

The changes are set to go into effect August 1, 2013.

I never thought that signed offers of admission or financial aid were binding. schools could treat them like their own student athletes, mean they could come and watch games, etc., but I would surmise that a potential student could just drop out and go to another school. That is unless the Ivy League is really going to change the document that is signed.

 
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
 

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