WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by Rita
WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Rita (---.med.miami.edu)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:08PM
In checking out tonight's TV schedule:
Merrimack v. Maine on Fox College Sports-Pacific. I assume root for Maine? They are ranked #10 in the PWR and Merrimack is with us at #14.
UMASS (Amherst) v. BC on NBC sports, BC so to help negate our loss to the minutemen?
Bemidji v. North Dakota, I'm guessing BSU. N.Dakota is tied for 12 in the PWR whereas BSU is at 27th. This game in on Fox College Sports-Central.
But I know it all boils down to this: Let's Go Red!!!
(edited to please the grammar police, and to clarify which Massachusettes state school is playing BC)
Merrimack v. Maine on Fox College Sports-Pacific. I assume root for Maine? They are ranked #10 in the PWR and Merrimack is with us at #14.
UMASS (Amherst) v. BC on NBC sports, BC so to help negate our loss to the minutemen?
Bemidji v. North Dakota, I'm guessing BSU. N.Dakota is tied for 12 in the PWR whereas BSU is at 27th. This game in on Fox College Sports-Central.
But I know it all boils down to this: Let's Go Red!!!
(edited to please the grammar police, and to clarify which Massachusettes state school is playing BC)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2012 06:46PM by Rita.
Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:24PM
I don't think the Lowell-BC game matters much to us; definitely it would be nice if NoDak could drop below us in the PWR but I don't know if that's realistic even with a Bemidji sweep. Plus Merrimack already loses the tiebreaker with us for #14 based on RPI, so that also may not be essential - except to prevent them from leapfrogging us with a win.
So, yes, Maine and Bemidji.
So, yes, Maine and Bemidji.
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Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:51PM
Beeeej
I don't think the Lowell-BC game matters much to us; definitely it would be nice if NoDak could drop below us in the PWR but I don't know if that's realistic even with a Bemidji sweep. Plus Merrimack already loses the tiebreaker with us for #14 based on RPI, so that also may not be essential - except to prevent them from leapfrogging us with a win.
So, yes, Maine and Bemidji.
BC plays UMass, not UML. Our loss to UMass is important, and if they drop off of TUC status (currently their RPI is .5020), bully for us.
Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:52PM
RichH
Beeeej
I don't think the Lowell-BC game matters much to us; definitely it would be nice if NoDak could drop below us in the PWR but I don't know if that's realistic even with a Bemidji sweep. Plus Merrimack already loses the tiebreaker with us for #14 based on RPI, so that also may not be essential - except to prevent them from leapfrogging us with a win.
So, yes, Maine and Bemidji.
BC plays UMass, not UML. Our loss to UMass is important, and if they drop off of TUC status (currently their RPI is .5020), bully for us.
Ooh. Right. It's a fair cop.
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- Steve Worona
Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 05:24PM
I played around with the Build Your Own Rankings again. Ignoring other games (thus making this a very unscientific study) adding a BC sweep of UMass removes UMass as a TUC and raises Cornell to 12 in the Pairwise. Adding a Cornell sweep of Dartmouth to that makes no difference - still 12. Same if Cornell defeats Dartmouth in three. If BC defeats UMass in three, UMass stays a TUC and Cornell stays 14th even with a series win over Dartmouth.
Adding to what Rita posted, might as well cheer for Miami (9th) to beat Michigan State (t-12th).
Adding to what Rita posted, might as well cheer for Miami (9th) to beat Michigan State (t-12th).
Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 06:17PM
Whom
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 07:04PM
Strunk & White, bitches!
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Redscore (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 08:45PM
Root for Us. Stop this nonsense. Long way to go....
Re: Who to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 09:22PM
If we're being pedantic, isn't it "For whom to root?"Trotsky
Whom
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 11:13PM
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/11/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 11:19PM
nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
Denver and Wisconsin tied at 0, start of the 3rd. Free audio:
http://www.denverpioneers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&id=468937&catid=0&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=18600
or through CHN's link
Denver loses 1-0 to the badgers. We end the night tied for 11th with North Dakota in the PWR.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2012 11:54PM by Rita.
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: March 10, 2012 01:02AM
If the tournament were seeded tonight, we'd be playing Minnesota in Minneapolis. Whee! (At least not at Mariucci...)
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/11/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 10, 2012 01:10AM
Niagara in tooRita
nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
Denver and Wisconsin tied at 0, start of the 3rd. Free audio:
http://www.denverpioneers.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&id=468937&catid=0&KEY=&DB_OEM_ID=18600
or through CHN's link
Denver loses 1-0 to the badgers. We end the night tied for 11th with North Dakota in the PWR.
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2012 11:46AM
We're currently winning comparison against 3 teams above us in PWR and RPI, namely Michigan, Minnesota and Union. So having Yale a TUC and UMass not one can be the key to an NCAA berth. UMass is just barely out - they were still at .5001 after their loss but then a few other results knocked them down to ,4999.nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
I just hope we don't wind up in a ridiculous situation like playing Yale in the ECAC consolation game and not being sure if we want to beat Yale and knock them out of being a TUC.
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Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2012 12:09PM
The TUC 'cliff' can result in bizarre situations like this. The difference between a .499 RPI team and a .501 RPI team is negligible yet one affects your TUC score and the other does not.jkahn
We're currently winning comparison against 3 teams above us in PWR and RPI, namely Michigan, Minnesota and Union. So having Yale a TUC and UMass not one can be the key to an NCAA berth. UMass is just barely out - they were still at .5001 after their loss but then a few other results knocked them down to ,4999.nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
I just hope we don't wind up in a ridiculous situation like playing Yale in the ECAC consolation game and not being sure if we want to beat Yale and knock them out of being a TUC.
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Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: March 10, 2012 12:21PM
jkahn
We're currently winning comparison against 3 teams above us in PWR and RPI, namely Michigan, Minnesota and Union. So having Yale a TUC and UMass not one can be the key to an NCAA berth. UMass is just barely out - they were still at .5001 after their loss but then a few other results knocked them down to ,4999.nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
I just hope we don't wind up in a ridiculous situation like playing Yale in the ECAC consolation game and not being sure if we want to beat Yale and knock them out of being a TUC.
Always root for Cornell. No matter what. End of discussion.
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Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 10, 2012 01:12PM
jkahn
We're currently winning comparison against 3 teams above us in PWR and RPI, namely Michigan, Minnesota and Union. So having Yale a TUC and UMass not one can be the key to an NCAA berth. UMass is just barely out - they were still at .5001 after their loss but then a few other results knocked them down to ,4999.nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
I was about to post the same thing. I'll add that we are losing to two teams below us - Denver and Michigan State - because of our lower RPI. so root for Wisconsin and Miami, respectively. Might be enough to flip the comparisons if we win and they lose. We also trail Michigan and Minnesota in RPI and are very unlikely to catch up. We win those comparisons with Common Opponents and TUC. I don't think it's possible for Michigan and Minnesota to catch our TUC winning percentage (with Yale in and UMass out) even if they win out against TUCs.
Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2012 01:12PM
The point was more that a situation could possibly exist this year where a tie (or even a loss) in our last game might get us into the NCAA's and a win would not.jtn27
jkahn
We're currently winning comparison against 3 teams above us in PWR and RPI, namely Michigan, Minnesota and Union. So having Yale a TUC and UMass not one can be the key to an NCAA berth. UMass is just barely out - they were still at .5001 after their loss but then a few other results knocked them down to ,4999.nyc94
UMass out of TUC status, Yale in. Cornell's TUC record now 8-3-3. 12th in Pairwise (tied with Denver at 11, Denver has higher RPI).
I just hope we don't wind up in a ridiculous situation like playing Yale in the ECAC consolation game and not being sure if we want to beat Yale and knock them out of being a TUC.
Always root for Cornell. No matter what. End of discussion.
And that I sure hope that crazy situation doesn't happen this year.
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Re: WHOM to root for 3/9 - 3/12/12 (other conferences)
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: March 10, 2012 01:17PM
Cornell has the highest TUC percentage of all. Maybe I need to learn to love TUC.
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