Cornell 3 US U18 NDT 3 (final, ot)

Scoring:

2 11:45 USA Valek (Lynch)
2 13:28 Cor pp R. Nash (B. Nash, Gallagher)
3 03:54 USA pp Morin (Brown)
3 07:36 Cor Roeszler (Barlow)
3 15:41 Cor sh Mugford (M. Kennedy, M. Devin)
3 16:12 USA pp Brown (Fowler, Morin)


Lines:

1 Greening-Nash-Jillson
2 Collins-M. Kennedy-Gallagher
3 Barlow-Devin-Roeszler
4 Scali-Mugford-Punches

Pairings:

1 Krueger-Devin
2 Nash-Seminoff
3 Berk-Ross
4 Whitney-Nicholls (?)

Goal:

1 Scrivens
2 DiLeo
3 Garman

Missing:

Both Davenports
P. Kennedy
Kary

Nicholls must be the 13th forward.

Trotsky
Live Stats

Lines:


4 Scali-Mugford-Punches

P

As if there needed to be any more "punches" on the Scali-Mugford line

I'm a little surprised not to see Taylor Davenport and Patrick Kennedy. I thought Mike was giving the young kids a shot in an exhibition, but we've got no Jordan Kary.

Anyone notice in the live stats how much Sean Collins looks like Ray Sawada?

Good (IMHO) to see freshmen on both scoring lines. Line 3 is a "mite line," and line 4 is the "keep your head up" line -- they'll probably rotate Nicholls into that line.

The surprises to me are that Troy Davenport isn't the #2 goalie and Patrick Kennedy isn't in the lineup. Let the speculation begin.

pfibiger
Anyone notice in the live stats how much Sean Collins looks like Ray Sawada?

Sean Whitney could be Troy Davenport's twin brother as well

Cornell goal according to Age's twitter?

sah67
Cornell goal according to Age's twitter?

Yeah, I got that too. I guess "Live" stats are a few minutes behind. I imagine it happens on this power play.

OK, somebody under 30 please explain twitter to me.

Mugford getting some powerplay time...and taking a face-off as well.

Trotsky
OK, somebody under 30 please explain twitter to me.

How about a 30 year old?

It's software / a website that lets you do micro (140 characters or less) personal publishing. It sort of a halfway between instant messaging and blogging. It can be conversational, but people also use it to publish content. When you sign up you choose who you want to subscribe to, and then you can see a rolling feed of all their updates.

It has pretty good integration with text messaging on cellphones, so you can both receive updates on your phone and post to twitter.

Perhaps a typo by Age? He reported a score of 1-0 at 18:40 of the period, but LiveStats is nearly at 15:00 with no score.

pfibiger

Trotsky
OK, somebody under 30 please explain twitter to me.

How about a 30 year old?

It's software / a website that lets you do micro (140 characters or less) personal publishing. It sort of a halfway between instant messaging and blogging. It can be conversational, but people also use it to publish content. When you sign up you choose who you want to subscribe to, and then you can see a rolling feed of all their updates.

It has pretty good integration with text messaging on cellphones, so you can both receive updates on your phone and post to twitter.

Can I receive twitter updates on the net, or just on cell?

Trotsky

Can I receive twitter updates on the net, or just on cell?

[twitter.com]

cell's just one option. you can read them on the twitter site really easily, you can get them via text if you want (it can get expensive), you can get them via aol instant messenger, and you can use any one of a huge number of third party clients that pop up little notifications any time someone you subscribed to updates (twitterific on the mac is good, twhirl is supposed to be good on the PC).

The LiveStats make it seem like we've been keeping the puck in the U-18 end for the entire first half of the period. Good to know we're putting the pressure on.

sah67
The LiveStats make it seem like we've been keeping the puck in the U-18 end for the entire first half of the period. Good to know we're putting the pressure on.

Yeah, and although the Scoring & Faceoffs tab seems broken, it appears that we've won most of the faceoffs.

2 pp's and a lot of faceoff wins.

But it seems like every time you hold a team shotless for 10 minutes, the first one goes in.

pfibiger
Anyone notice in the live stats how much Sean Collins looks like Ray Sawada?

It's eerie.

Woo! Finally a save for Scrivens

Scoreless at the end of the 1st.

Is the NDT any good?

Trotsky
Is the NDT any good?

They're young, but yes. They beat both RPI and Union last weekend. The team is littered with future NHL draft picks (Morin, Schroeder, and Palmieri are all likely 1st rounders).

Elsewhere in the ECAC, it's Clarkson 2, Niagara 1 and both RPI and Bentley and SLU and RIT knotted at 0-0.

U18 scores...Valek from Lynch. Just after we killed a penalty.

Garman replaces Scrivens in net now as well. Don't think it has anything to do with the goal.

Riley with the PPG! Assist to Brendon.

According to the twitter, a second assist on Riley's goal can be credited to Blake Gallagher

End of 2nd.

U-18 to start the 3rd with a 5-minute powerplay, thanks to a hitting-from-behind major penalty on Brendon Nash right at the buzzer.

RPI 2 Bentley 2 end 2nd
Clarkson 3 Niagara 3 end 2nd

Chris 02
RPI 2 Bentley 2 end 2nd
Clarkson 3 Niagara 3 end 2nd

SLU up 2-0 over RIT.

USA ppg 4 minutes into the pp.

2-2, Roeszler from Barlow.

If Live Stats is right, faceoffs are 28-16 Cornell.

Mugford shorty! 3-2

Then USA ties it up with the ppg. 3-3, 3 minutes to go.

why does cornell call them live stats.. shouldnt they be called slightly delayed/sometimes updated/sorta correct stats?

3-3 after 3.

In regulation: faceoffs 43-20, shots 31-16.

garmen saw 4 shots in 30 minutes..

Final,3-3.

interesting to see if the shot totals reflected the control of the game.

It was strange not being there and trying to follow online, thanks for everyone that provided updates and age for the twitter page. looking forward to reading some postgame analysis if there is any.

upperdeck
interesting to see if the shot totals reflected the control of the game.

Yes. If Scrivens plays the whole game, it's probably a 3-1 win.

Biggest surprise may have been Jillson's play. He made some moves in the first period that were beautiful. He had a couple of near misses in the third. It'll be interesting to see what the team does with him when P. Kennedy's back. The second line could be very interesting -- although Gallagher doesn't skate like Topher, he's got that point guard mentality.

Morin was the USA's best player -- how does a kid from Auburn not want to wear a Big Red jersey. Murray was probably a close second -- he kept the game close. The other quasi-local kid, D'Amigo was a pest around the net on the pp in the first, but otherwise he wasn't very noticeable. Valek was fun to watch -- a big kid who has a phyisical edge to his game.

For practice #2, it was a very nice effort.

I thought we played a great game considering only 1 practice with the coaches. All aspects of the game were working. It helps that we have a group of guys that can work together on the PP. Speaking of the PP, we hardly ever tried to work the big slap shot from the blue line. We really tried working the puck around. Penalty kill was very good.

Overall we really controlled the play. Considering how many games the 18's have played, I'm quite happy. They did beat Union and RPI, but RPI also lost to Bentley tonight. I didn't see the 5 min major, did anyone?

I expect Davenport might share the duties with Scrivens next week. The frosh really seemed to mesh well with the team. My only downside is that Greening is still taking stupid penalties. That's got to stop, oh and Cornell needs to get up to speed and have room on their stat sheet for 4 officials.

Very good crowd on both sides of the rink.

Did anyone take note of the PP or PK lines? Im guessing the PP1 line has to be Greening, R. Nash, Gallagher, B. Nash, and... ?

sah67
Riley with the PPG! Assist to Brendon.

Wait. So Riley didn't turn pro a week before the season as all the trolls critics predicted he would? Huh.

A Nash connection is a nice way to kick off the season.

Trotsky
OK, somebody under 30 please explain twitter to me.

Two days ago, I had to explain exactly that to a coworker. The reason was this comic strip which appeared in the paper that day.

Full disclosure: I'm 34 (going on 23) and am still the youngest person in my office by about 12 years, so I'm the young whippersnapper that people come to for such hip jargon.

Attention kids: now that Greg's generation is asking questions and getting wise to the twitter, it's time to invent something else they don't know about. It happened to blogs, the myspace, the facebook, and now the twitter.

Trotsky
Mugford shorty! 3-2

I don't understand the 2nd word you used.

RichH

sah67
Riley with the PPG! Assist to Brendon.

Wait. So Riley didn't turn pro a week before the season as all the trolls critics predicted he would? Huh.

I am pleased—very pleased—to admit I was wrong. I don't think reporting third-hand info makes me a troll; perhaps, however, it makes me a fool.

Kyle

Doug '08
Did anyone take note of the PP or PK lines? Im guessing the PP1 line has to be Greening, R. Nash, Gallagher, B. Nash, and... ?

The PP unit on the ice when Riley scored included the four you mentioned plus Joe Devin interestingly enough. I can't remember if Schafer used a 4-forward unit much last year.

Two of the PK units I happen to notice from the live stats were:

Mugford-M. Kennedy-M. Devin-Krueger
Scali-Barlow-Berk-Ross

I think both the pp and pk units were fairly fluid throughout the night though... I recall Jillson, Mugford, Collins, Krueger and M. Devin also getting some time on the pp, and Seminoff, B. Nash, and Punches also spending some time on the PK.

Man, it felt good to be back at Lynah. Here are a few quick thoughts. Sorry I can't speak too much about the lines.

Good:
-Cornell controlled play most of the game. I know this should be expected given the relatively small size of the U-18 team, but still, our guys were flying around the ice for 60 minutes. A really good effort. The one exception might still be B.Nash, who still kills me when he's on the ice.
-Goaltending. Scrivens looked decent during his 30 minutes of play. He only had 9 saves, but some of them were tough. Garman looked even better IMO. I felt very comfortable when he was in net, even with the 2 GA. When Schafer said he might remind people of Lenny or McKee, he wasn't reaching too much.
-Freshmen! Those kids came ready to play, Jillson especially. I think this might be our most productive freshman class in a few years.
-Faceoffs. As others have said, we dominated this.
-Powerplay.
-Riley Nash. This kid is the real deal. I know there were a lot of scouts there last night on account of the U-18 team, and they must have come away impressed. Too bad there was no video for his goal.
-Krueger. He seems to have improved a lot and played a lot more physical.
-Nicholls. How can you not love this kid?

Bad:
-Just like for the last eight years I've been following Cornell hockey, we seem to lack finishers. Roeszler's goal was something I'd like to see more often...just skates up to the open puck and lets it fly. Lots of garbage around the net last night that we didn't take advantage of.
-PK. The kill looked good for stretches, but at other points it looked amateurish. There's really no excuse for not being able to clear the puck when it's on your stick. It didn't help that U-18 ran a good powerplay. We can get away with some sloppy PK play against some of the EZAC (coughRPI) but not against better schools.
-Asshole 17-year-olds. When they scored their third goal, no fewer than 8 skaters were on the ice to celebrate. And upon leaving the ice, several (including Murray) were gesturing and waving at Section A. It was a hard-fought game, but seriously...

Overall, I think this team looks much more like the bigger teams of 03 and 05 than the smaller teams of 07 and 08. They seem to be farther along on the learning curve than other years' teams at this point in the season. LGR.

Jim Hyla,

5 Min major to Brendan Nash happened about a half a second or so after whistle to end the period.... USA player relaxed and was going to the door to bench which was starting to open and Brendan drove him with shoulder + body to the back into the boards just next to opening door to bench - looked dumb and not thinking from stands just 7 rows above where it occurred. - I think part of it was the USA player had relaxed and straightened up a bit - so hit really sent him flying - plus opening bench door made it look (maybe was) dangerous!

profudge
Jim Hyla,

5 Min major to Brendan Nash happened about a half a second or so after whistle to end the period....

What was also weird was at least 2 USA players jumped off the bench to get into a scrum with Nash (who turned away). Schafer saw this and sent Nicholls off the Cornell bench across the ice. After the period Schafer was arguing with the Refs not about the 5-min major, but why there was not a game-DQ for the players who came off the bench.

ebilmes
-Goaltending. Scrivens looked decent during his 30 minutes of play. He only had 9 saves, but some of them were tough. Garman looked even better IMO. I felt very comfortable when he was in net, even with the 2 GA. When Schafer said he might remind people of Lenny or McKee, he wasn't reaching too much.

I have agree that Garman looked like McKee, but he looked like the McKee who was reactionary and not anticipating the play well by getting into position and playing the angles well. He needs to get used to the speed of the college game.

JDeafv

ebilmes
-Goaltending. Scrivens looked decent during his 30 minutes of play. He only had 9 saves, but some of them were tough. Garman looked even better IMO. I felt very comfortable when he was in net, even with the 2 GA. When Schafer said he might remind people of Lenny or McKee, he wasn't reaching too much.

I have agree that Garman looked like McKee, but he looked like the McKee who was reactionary and not anticipating the play well by getting into position and playing the angles well. He needs to get used to the speed of the college game.

Well if he can figure it out like McKee did, the team will be alright between the pipes for a couple of years.

I agree after the hit there was a bit of a minor scrum initiated by couple of USA players off of bench - one even bumped/hit one of refs trying to get to Cornell player - I think was Brendan - But ref chose to ignore it all except for the initial hit that started it all.

I thought sure one of USA players would at least get a Misconduct - but nothing ...

This all started much earlier when that USA player came down and made a late hit on Riley putting both hands right into chin neck of Riley on the boards a good half ssecond after puck was gone.

A challenging game for our guys for sure this early! I am pleased with defense (MANY blocked shots) and PK looked OK for some of the time.

USA team moved puck well on the PP. Plus they are a fast team, a lot of speed.

anyone heard any news about instant replay ? someone mentioned CU is looking into it but the logistics are a bit tough for the building.

upperdeck
anyone heard any news about instant replay ? someone mentioned CU is looking into it but the logistics are a bit tough for the building.

The Physics Department is looking into methods of generating the necessary 1.21 gigawatts.

Beeeej

upperdeck
anyone heard any news about instant replay ? someone mentioned CU is looking into it but the logistics are a bit tough for the building.

The Physics Department is looking into methods of generating the necessary 1.21 gigawatts.

1.21 gigawatts...Great Topher!

How was the crowd? Was the student side full?

Was anybody else surprised to see Riley Nash on the PK? Is it possible Schafer is actually trying to make Riley a better player by forcing him to play on the PK?

BCrespi
How was the crowd? Was the student side full?

No. I know they were selling single game tickets to Sections D, E, F, and G on Saturday. They also gave away about 100 seats to the women's basketball, men's lacrosse, and I think one other team. I guess that can be Athletics' new strategy: However many unsold seats there are for each game are given to members of another sports team.

profudge
Jim Hyla,

5 Min major to Brendan Nash happened about a half a second or so after whistle to end the period.... USA player relaxed and was going to the door to bench which was starting to open and Brendan drove him with shoulder + body to the back into the boards just next to opening door to bench - looked dumb and not thinking from stands just 7 rows above where it occurred. - I think part of it was the USA player had relaxed and straightened up a bit - so hit really sent him flying - plus opening bench door made it look (maybe was) dangerous!

Thanks, it sounds like it was justified.

JDeafv
Was anybody else surprised to see Riley Nash on the PK? Is it possible Schafer is actually trying to make Riley a better player by forcing him to play on the PK?

That's possible. Mike may also be saying that Riley is one of his best PKers. Not sure whether that says more about Riley or the PK.

Yeah, I'll agree with ebilmes there. I was pleasantly surprised to see A and B at capacity, though. G and H were quite empty, as was K.

F was filled by men and women's b-ball and men's lacrosse, celebrating their successful 07-08 seasons, which was quite nice. Though clearly it was because they had a ton of extra tickets.

Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

Really? You just noticed that? I've been using that as a joke for 15 years. "I'll meet you over behind section I"

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

But at least they left Section O. Maybe that's because they were concerned about cheers for section P. "Section P sucks." for example.

Jim Hyla

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

But at least they left Section O. Maybe that's because they were concerned about cheers for section P. "Section P sucks." for example.

Er... if they hadn't left out Section I, the last section would be Section N.

Beeeej

Jim Hyla

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

But at least they left Section O. Maybe that's because they were concerned about cheers for section P. "Section P sucks." for example.

Er... if they hadn't left out Section I, the last section would be Section N.

Yes, and your point about N is? My point is that, presuming they left out I because some might confuse it with 1, if they also left out O, so as to not confuse with 0, then we'd have P.

Jim Hyla

Beeeej

Jim Hyla

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

But at least they left Section O. Maybe that's because they were concerned about cheers for section P. "Section P sucks." for example.

Er... if they hadn't left out Section I, the last section would be Section N.

Yes, and your point about N is? My point is that, presuming they left out I because some might confuse it with 1, if they also left out O, so as to not confuse with 0, then we'd have P.

Yeah, how did you not get that, Beeeej?

Jim Hyla
Yes, and your point about N is? My point is that, presuming they left out I because some might confuse it with 1, if they also left out O, so as to not confuse with 0, then we'd have P.

I always thought they omitted "I" because it can be confused with "J" in both upper and lowercase forms, and a lowercase "L." Turns out the real reason was explained in an "Uncle Ezra" question from Feb. 20, 1997. [ezra.cornell.edu]

Uncle Ezra
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Question 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Dear Uncle Ezra,
Why does Lynah Rink not have a section i?

I wonder

Dear Observant,
According to Gene Beavers, Lynah Rink Manager (EAB21@Cornell.edu), Lynah Rink used to have a section "I", back when season tickets were for sections and not for seats. You could take the "I" season ticket and easily change it so it looked like an "L"...and "L" was behind the player's box. So the "I" was eliminated.
Thanks, Gene!

Uncle Ezra

So basically, you could upgrade to center ice seats with a pen.

Jim Hyla
But at least they left Section O.

That was supposed to be a Q. They messed up the paint job during the renovations.

ugarte

Jim Hyla

Beeeej

Jim Hyla

BMac
Finally, has anyone noticed there's no Section I???

But at least they left Section O. Maybe that's because they were concerned about cheers for section P. "Section P sucks." for example.

Er... if they hadn't left out Section I, the last section would be Section N.

Yes, and your point about N is? My point is that, presuming they left out I because some might confuse it with 1, if they also left out O, so as to not confuse with 0, then we'd have P.

Yeah, how did you not get that, Beeeej?

Must have left my Hyla-to-Esperanto dictionary at home.