Cornell - Colgate Post Game Thread

Just a solidly played game by Cornell. Great offensive chances the first half of the game. We killed some big penalties late in the third. McKee was superb. No complaints from me.

Bring on Hahvahd!

Are the blue lines set to NHL size, or college size?

Tom14850
Are the blue lines set to NHL size, or college size?

I believe it is NHL since the Pepsi Arena is a pro venue (Albany River Rats)

Four penalties in the 3rd period? We got lucky with a 2-0 score. If we played the last period on Saturday like we did today, we'd be in BIG trouble.

Asides from that, I agree, we played solid the first two periods. Very physical, very dominating. Like a championship team that we are capable of being.

[q] Four penalties in the 3rd period?[/q]

The hooking with 5 minutes and the interference at the end were absolute BS.

I was sitting next to TimV. At the beginning of the third he said that there'd be a bunch of penalties called against us in the third, since we had several more PPs in the first two periods. Boy was he right!

Actually it was a frustrating game. We certainly outplayed Colgate, but as was the case all season, couldn't finish.

I don't know about the "not finishing" comments. I'd attribute a lot of it to luck rather than skill deficiencies. For example: the fact that SO many blatantly obvious calls against Colgate didn't get made. Or the many post shots. Or the times when Dekanich clearly had no idea where the puck was or even that a shot was being taken, but happened to be in the way of it.

Either way, a fun game, and I'm looking forward to tomorrow night LET'S GO RED!

Just a little Trivia to throw out.

Cornell has shutout its last 4 ECAC Semifinal opponents. The last goal it allowed in the semis was over 241 minutes of hockey ago in the third period of the 2001 game against Harvard.

Jordan 04
[q] Four penalties in the 3rd period?[/q]

The hooking with 5 minutes and the interference at the end were absolute BS.

I think those were both legit calls. I can't think of a single penalty called against Cornell that wasn't legit, though the early interference (O'Byrne?) should have also had an offsetting diving call.

Edit: Also, I thought Colgate played a very clean, though hard hitting game. I didn't really think that there was much that should have been called against 'Gate that wasn't called. A well officiated game IMHO.

ugarte

Jordan 04
[q] Four penalties in the 3rd period?[/q]

The hooking with 5 minutes and the interference at the end were absolute BS.

I think those were both legit calls. I can't think of a single penalty called against Cornell that wasn't legit, though the early interference (O'Byrne?) should have also had an offsetting diving call.

Edit: Also, I thought Colgate played a very clean, though hard hitting game. I didn't really think that there was much that should have been called against 'Gate that wasn't called. A well officiated game IMHO.

Yes, the early holding deserved a matching Unsportsmanlike Conduct call.

Yes, the calls were legit. However, the ref seemed to put away the whistle in the third only to call two penalties at random points in time. Whatever. Cornell won.

weee....I'm drunk and at jillians posting on my phone.....LGR

That was a pretty physical game - Colgate outhit us and we were pretty physical. Harvard gets more rest with the earlier game and with the blowout - their top players will be more rested.

BUT THE HELL WITH IT!! THEY'RE FRESH OUT OF GOALS!! We're going to win......

Moulson between periods said he saw the Lynah Middle East sign. Props to the sign dude.

I had to, um, borrow Big Ben's classic cheer tonight and modified it a bit: "Hey Colgate, your three jerk fans called..." And man, were they jerks (the ones in the back of section 129), though, for some reason, they were nowhere to be found after the game.

Tub(a)
However, the ref seemed to put away the whistle in the third only to call two penalties at random points in time. Whatever. Cornell won.

It was John Murphy. That's what he does.

Were there any other good cheers?? I guess nothing can really top "Our team is sleeping..."

Any injury report?

trainbow
Any injury report?

No obvious injuries. Everybody played who was expected to play.

A few players (Chris Abbot, Gleed, Glover) went off for a couple minutes and got looked at on the bench early in the third period, but all came back and played later in the game.

Re the penalty calls: I also think they were legit. My biggest knock was that there were plenty of earlier calls that could have been called (and could have gotten some players hurt), but weren't. Then they called some borderline calls late in a 1-0 game. Either let them play or call everything, but don't be erratic.

Here's an interesting one. Y'know how they do a profile on one of the seniors for each school in the program every year? Cornell's player this year? Louis Chabot. Good for him.

Jeff Hopkins '82
... We certainly outplayed Colgate, but as was the case all season, couldn't finish.

Story of our life this season: lots of chances, not many goals to show for them. In comparison, Harvard pounced on every opportunity and got some lucky breaks. The first Harvard goal, the rebound bounces into the very perfect spot for a followup shot (that goes in) ... vs. Bitz (?) missing a wide open net from the right side in the third, and Moulson having an even wider open net in the third and a Colgate defender made a sweeping motion that deflected the shot aside while it was in mid-flight.

billhoward

Jeff Hopkins '82
...and Moulson having an even wider open net in the third and a Colgate defender made a sweeping motion that deflected the shot aside while it was in mid-flight.

That was a heck of a play by that Colgate guy.

Jeff Hopkins '82
Here's an interesting one. Y'know how they do a profile on one of the seniors for each school in the program every year? Cornell's player this year? Louis Chabot. Good for him.

Nice factoid. I'm really happy for him, he has played really well this year when he has been needed and he has looked really focused the times I have seen him practice. I can't say it was always like that.

I was sitting against the glass with a perfect view of the O'Byrne penalty and that seemed like a really weak call that almost lead to a Colgate goal. O'Byrne barely touched the front of the Colgate player's right shoulder and the kid fell like a bag of bricks. But the rest of the calls did seem legit, especially the Seminoff penalty which was a severe mental lapse.

Dartmouth was an embarrassment. Anyone want to teach them how to back-check? Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.

As for a continuous droning cheer, how about "SeasonS over!"

atb9
Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.

BTW, Colgate beating Dartmouth in the consolation game helps our NCAA seeding.

Actually for a Cornell squad that has moved away from holding and "clutching" we were sure doing a hell of a lot of holding against the boards last night.

There really wasn't much to complain about unless you make the argument that since they let a lot of that type of D go for most of the game that Murphy should be consistent and not call holding or interference at all.

I was impressed with Colgate's ability to get off quality shots and McKee was great in stopping those chances.

LGR!

This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.

RedAR
This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.

Wouldn't that require an SCSU victory as well?

Adding my impressions:

1. Very physical but clean game. I haven't seen Colgate during the current era, but it's true as has been said that they are build along the same lines as the Big Red (just not quite as good as the original model ).

2. We get lots of chances, but I've never seen a team consistently miss the net as much as we do.

3. McKee was solid and confident. He looked a lot better than last weekend.

4. Even discounting his goal, Bitz was the strongest player on the ice. Dominated behind the Colgate goal, and had a number of excellent chances.

5. Our D (especially Krantz and Seminoff) frequently diddled around with the puck leading to turnovers and Colgate pressure. Unnerving. That being said, Krantz led a number of nice rushes.

6. We arrived at the arena with Harvard already leading 4-0. Hard to believe it only got worse from there.

7. Colgate seemed to pass up pretty good shots on the power play, looking for the perfect pass. Our penalty kill was great in any event, and Colgate was clearly frustrated.

8. Even though we had a nice power play goal, the power play simply does not move the puck very quickly, leading to a disproportionate number of blocked shots. Bitz' goal was during a rare opportunity right in the slot.

RedAR
This is probably mentioned in the PWR threads, but I believe that if Michigan State, Colgate, Bentley, and Boston College win (as well as Cornell), then we end up #4 overall.

According to the info in the PWR threads, it takes all the games you mentioned, and then some. Also, there was one post that showed Bentley having to win, and another that showed Bentley having to lose in order for us to gain the 4th seed overall, so perhaps the HC-Bentley game isn't of consequence?

I guess we just need to win, and then let the chips fall where they may.
Andy W.

atb9

Jeff Hopkins '82

I was sitting against the glass with a perfect view of the O'Byrne penalty and that seemed like a really weak call that almost lead to a Colgate goal. O'Byrne barely touched the front of the Colgate player's right shoulder and the kid fell like a bag of bricks. But the rest of the calls did seem legit, especially the Seminoff penalty which was a severe mental lapse.

Dartmouth was an embarrassment. Anyone want to teach them how to back-check? Cheering "it just doesn't matter" during the entire consolation game will be fun.

Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon." After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge. Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?

Sure, you could say that silly chant through the entire game. You'd do a good job looking and sounding foolish. Better you should save your energy for chants during the final game, I should think.

Rich S

Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon." After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge. Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?

Sure, you could say that silly chant through the entire game. You'd do a good job looking and sounding foolish. Better you should save your energy for chants during the final game, I should think.

Season's over *clap**clap* *clap**clap**clap* Season's over *clap**clap* *clap**clap**clap*

Rich S
Following the logic usually espoused here, Byrne must be a "goon." After all, he took a major penalty and got tossed last week for a hit on Dodge. Any opposing player who gets a major for a similar infraction is a "goon", so...?

Nope. All Cornell players are saints who never commit a penalty but are sometimes oppressed by referees who may be devious and unethical but are more likely simply fooled by the miscreants who play for the opposition. On occasion a Cornell player may slightly bend a rule but only to sacrifice themselves for the greater good; for instance when they can save a puppy from a burning house by gently cross checking an opponent into the boards.

Opposition players are goons of with low ethical standards who on rare occasion may earn grudging respect from the faithful if they somehow manage against all odds to suppress their base evil instincts.

It's simply a fundamental law upon which the firmament of the universe rests. It's futile to oppose it.

Now one of the great question of hockey theology is whether matriculating at Cornell makes a player a saint, or do all saints invariably matriculate at Cornell.

CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

Well, that's random. But i guess a college sports network doesn't have all that much original programming to play over the summer.

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

The game is still on my TiVo, which is being mailed back to DirecTV soon. Sigh.

jtwcornell91

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

The game is still on my TiVo, which is being mailed back to DirecTV soon. Sigh.

???

jtwcornell91

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

The game is still on my TiVo, which is being mailed back to DirecTV soon. Sigh.

Make a copy before you send it?

I still haven't copied the regional loss at Minnesota.....

marty

jtwcornell91

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

The game is still on my TiVo, which is being mailed back to DirecTV soon. Sigh.

Make a copy before you send it?

Too late; I'm already in Potsdam. (No, not that one; the one in Germany.)

I tried dumping things to my DVD burner, but my first experiment (filling a disc with cricket in 8-hour mode) caused the DVD burner to keel over, and I didn't get the replacement until I'd sold my TV.

Anyway, I imagine others have digital copies somewhere.

jtwcornell91
I tried dumping things to my DVD burner, but my first experiment (filling a disc with cricket in 8-hour mode) caused the DVD burner to keel over, and I didn't get the replacement until I'd sold my TV.

See what happens when you watch cricket?

Speaking of Cricket...

We might learn a thing or two:

[en.wikipedia.org]

jtwcornell91

marty

jtwcornell91

Bio '04
CSTV is replaying the Cornell-Colgate semifinal game this week, in case anyone wants to record it:
Wed 6/28 9:30 PM
Thu 6/29 9:30 AM
Thu 7/6 10:00 PM

Bump for today. In case anyone else with a new DVR and direct TV subscription wants to record it. How soon to hockey season???

Would anyone planning on watching/taping it be willing to make an extra copy? I'd pay for cost of materials and shipping.

PM or whatnot.

ebilmes
Would anyone planning on watching/taping it be willing to make an extra copy? I'd pay for cost of materials and shipping.

PM or whatnot.

Speaking of which, does anyone have an extra copy of the 2005 @ Colgate game when Iggulden scored the game winner with less than a minute left? I believe the game was only broadcast on TW26, so this request should probably be directed to those in the CNY area.