Harvard Sucks

Yes they do!

I'll see your , and raise you

Someone should make a dancing red banana with a HARVARD SUCKS sign.

If anybody cares, Harvard sucks even further as the Cornell University Rugby Football Club beat Harvard at our new pitch this weekend to advance to the final 4 of the Northeast regional.

LGR

Further evidence of Harvard's suckitude is always welcome.

Dartmouth swallows.

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As a former rugger, albeit only while in grad school, I care. Thanks for the update.

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history?

[Q]XXX Wrote:

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]

There's certainly a history, though I'll leave it to others to explain that. I can understand the Yale rivalry, what with The Game and all. But Dartmouth? Why?

[Q]XXX Wrote:

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]

So then why so few students at the recent Dartmouth game? I was there. They weren't.

Recent years Harvard has seemed to care a bit. When I first lived in Boston in fall of 98, Lynah east would be almost entirely Cornell. When I left Boston in 2004, it was much closer to 50/50. Their fans were coming out for that game, not many others from what I saw. I thnk they care now, if only because the atmosphere there for that game is actually fun!

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Hmm, so for signs, do I go with "YACEY'S MOM HAS GOT IT GOING ON" or "SWALLOW SWALLOWS"?

[Q]jbeaber1998 Wrote:

Recent years Harvard has seemed to care a bit. When I first lived in Boston in fall of 98, Lynah east would be almost entirely Cornell. When I left Boston in 2004, it was much closer to 50/50. Their fans were coming out for that game, not many others from what I saw. I thnk they care now, if only because the atmosphere there for that game is actually fun![/q]

Wouldn't you want a chance to see the team that loses in the first round of the NCAAs every year?

Harvard fans probably cross themselves whenever Cornell skates on the ice, or shows up in force in Boston. Our being there reminds them of that darkest Cantabridgean fear, that a computer error wrongly sent out the thick envelope from Harvard Admissions, and through some kind of Groundhog Day mixup they'll live their college years over again but in Ithaca, or Providence, or Middlebury ... and they'll have to earn those A's.

Cornell alums don't have that fear. Only that nightmare when we come back on campus that we still have due that last required paper for graduation.

[Q]XXX Wrote:

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]

Yale, yes. Dartmouth? In what, Divison I-AA Drinking?

Nothing compares to football among the Harvard community, but hockey is second, with Cornell and the Beanpot the main source of what little energy the students can manage after an entire day saving the world one joint at a time in the Square.

[Q]XXX Wrote:

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/q]

Snarky comments aside, this is a fair question. (Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)

Frankly, there's little argument to infiltrate the all-encompassing grandness of the Harvard-Yale rivalry. I can't say from first-hand experience, but it's a hunch that it exists in some form in all aspects of campus life. From centuries old New England academic superiority that no doubt crosses over to the legendary gridiron rivalry. (Personally, Army-Navy and Harvard-Yale are my 2 favorite football rivalries). As much as it burns Princetonians, who so desperately want to be included, Harvard-Yale is about as great and storied a rivalry as one could hope for.

When only considering Men's Ice Hockey, however, it's been a 2 horse race for the better part of 40 years now. A back-of-the-envelope tabulation of Ivy League hockey championships since the formal organization of the Ivy League in 1956-57:

Harvard	   19
Cornell    18
Yale        6
Brown       5
Dartmouth   5
Princeton   1
Penn        0
Columbia    What Me Worry?

Source: [ivyleaguesports.com]

As you can see, it's obvious there are 2 dominant programs. Two heavyweights butting heads for that long...there's going to be a lot of hate. On the Cornell campus, hockey is the marquee sport. Not so in Cambridge. The result? A so-called (for the fans) one-sided rivalry.

That said, CU teams, fans, and Canadian recruiting practices have often succeeded in giving sports writers from the Crimson fits. Besides the now infamous Volonnino article, this has been going on for decades. Credit to Scersk '97 for his research this past spring:

fans, Lynah
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Attendance, 9300
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One of First griping on Canada
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Harvard being outcheered
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Sour Grapes on our National Title
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reference to frats and ag school, Harvard gets own canadian goalie
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Love Story, Cornell and Dartmouth win
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NCAA against Canadians
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Lumping Clarkson with Cornell and Canadians
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The McGuinn Crimson Cup and ineligibility
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Undefeated team not invincible, typicality of "we're number one" chants
at Watson
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1970 team crushes harvard at Lynah
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Harkness leaves
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Nice on the Yacey's Mom one, but I'm pretty sure he graduated. They're starting Sean Samuel now, I think.

[Q]daredevilcu Wrote:

Nice on the Yacey's Mom one, but I'm pretty sure he graduated. They're starting Sean Samuel now, I think.[/q]

Dammit! I'm getting too old.

[Q]RichH Wrote:

XXX Wrote:

Students from Harvard could care less about Harvard/ Cornell hockey...Dartmouth and Yale are much bigger rivals. Can anyone provide insight as to why this is a one sided rivalry? Is there a history? [/Q]
Snarky comments aside, this is a fair question. (Although if you could care less, that implies that you do care some...sorry...pet peeve)
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I was going to say something more along the lines of "let's point at the Cantab's poor language skills and laugh."

 

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