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Dave McKee
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: January 13, 2006 02:14PM

This weekend, McKee will in all probability break 5000 career Mins, becoming just the 4th Cornell goaltender to do so. A brief comparison of the top five on that list:

Corrie D'Alessio
Mins: 5188
Shots/60 Mins: 29.0
Record: 48-35-6
GAA: 3.25
Sv%: .888

Jason Elliott
Mins: 5070
Shots/60 Mins: 32.0
Record: 45-32-7
GAA: 2.89
Sv%: .910

Matt Underhill
Mins: 5068
Shots/60 Mins: 26.6
Record: 42-32-9
GAA: 2.32
Sv%: .913

Dave McKee
Mins: 4928
Shots/60 Mins: 22.8
Record: 53-18-11
GAA: 1.64
Sv%: .928

Ken Dryden
Mins: 4844
Shots/60 Mins: 26.2
Record: 78-4-1
GAA: 1.59
Sv%: .946
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: LaJollaRed (---.san.res.rr.com)
Date: January 13, 2006 03:34PM

Looks good to me. A tribute to the excellent defense Dave's been lucky to have.

I just hope he gets this year's SV% up...It will mean he'd have to face more shots, sure, but it will silence talk of his "junior slump."

Also, I saw Matt Underhill the other day...He was backup for the Alaska team that came to play the San Diego gulls. I sat 6 inches from the glass, and tried to get his attention for 15 minutes before giving up...It is possible that he didn't hear me--The cheerleaders were quite loud. Lord, how I *hate* San Diego hockey.

The sessile drunkard next to me asked what I was doing, and I explained that I go to Underhill's college, Cornell. He asked his buddy, "What's that?" I chuckled and went back to my seat.

LGR!
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: French Rage (---.Stanford.EDU)
Date: January 13, 2006 05:58PM

sessile??
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Will (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 13, 2006 11:40PM

Dave might want to quit while he's ahead. It appears that his SV% and GAA can only get worse with more minutes played. :-/

 
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Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Beeeej (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: January 14, 2006 12:27AM

Will
Dave might want to quit while he's ahead. It appears that his SV% and GAA can only get worse with more minutes played. :-/

Pardon my bluntness, but that's ridiculous. How much worse did his SV% and GAA get as a result of the sixty minutes he played tonight?!

EDIT: Never mind, I just figured out what you meant. nut

Beeeej
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2006 12:31AM by Beeeej.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: January 14, 2006 12:49PM

Nice comparison. A goaltender's career minutes might also be compared to TAM, total available minutes. McKee has played all but what, about 60 of the minutes played by Cornell during his varsity seasons? He was replaced for half the game against Dartmouth and didn't he give way at the end of a couple early season games? It's possible a goaltender might play virtually all of one season his junior and/or senior years because there's a gulf between him and the backup (Brian Cropper in the 1970 unbeaten season was backed by the lacrosse goalie? Bob Ruhl? Bob Buhman?) McKee could have, what, 8000 of 8100 minutes played when he's done?

The most amazing number is 78-4-1. And those four losses were by how many goals?
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 14, 2006 01:14PM

billhoward
...(Brian Cropper in the 1970 unbeaten season was backed by the lacrosse goalie? Bob Ruhl? Bob Buhman?)...
Bob Rule
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Robb (---.northgrum.com)
Date: January 14, 2006 01:30PM

There were actually 5 losses during Dryden's 3 years of eligibility:

3-4 to Yale on 1/6/67
3-6 to Brown on 12/9/67
1-3 to NoDak on 3/15/68
3-4(ot) to RPI on 12/4/68
3-4 to Denver on 3/15/69

Hmmm - the Ides of March were not good to Cornell!

Dryden's record for the 66-67 season is listed as 26-0-1, so the loss to Yale is not his (ah - found it: Dave Quarrie was 1-1 that season with 126 minutes played). Therefore, the 4 games he lost were by a total of 6 goals. Dryden played 1646 minutes that season, for 93% of the total.

In Dryden's 3 years, he played 4844 of a possible 5280 minutes, for 92%. Swan had 120 minutes in '68, and Cropper (who?) had 129 minutes in '69. Interestingly, Swan's 120 minutes came in 4 games (not 2), and has a 0-0-0 record for that year. My guess is that he played 4 3rd periods when Cornell was way ahead - can anyone confirm?

For completeness, McKee has played 4988 of a possible 5047 minutes (Marr had 14 in '04, Davenport had 9 in '05, and Chabot has 36 in '06), good for 98.8% Wow. If the team had gotten off the bus in Hanover last November, he'd be sitting at 5024/5047 = 99.5%
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: RatushnyFan (72.165.12.---)
Date: January 17, 2006 02:50AM

Interesting to me that D'Alessio is #1 in minutes. He split time with Jim Crozier his junior year, with Crozier getting the start in the ECAC semifinal loss versus SLU as I recall (and in other key games). I assume he was in net for most of the series versus Michigan in the NCAA's (after LK hoodwinked the selection committee). Crozier also played a lot Corrie's senior year. We haven't had a Turco type 4 year stud, hopefully McKee is the first.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Trotsky (---.raytheon.com)
Date: January 17, 2006 12:27PM

RatushnyFan
We haven't had a Turco type 4 year stud, hopefully McKee is the first.
Cornell's goalies ranked by the highest lowest number of minutes -- i.e., taking all 4 years into account, and then taking the goalie's year of lowest Mins, and then ranking the goalies highest to lowest. Got that?

941 Elliott (fr)
911 Underhill (so)
887 D'Alessio (jr)
507 Hayward (so)
468 Skazyk (fr)
337 Eliot (jr)
307 Burt (fr)
127 Crozier (so)

Note: among three-year eligible goalies:

1578 Dryden (sr)
1082 Kennedy (jr)
872 McKibbon (jr)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2006 12:28PM by Trotsky.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: January 17, 2006 12:40PM

McKee would already be ahead of everyone on the four year list and be third on the three year list (1929, 2125, 991). But of course we won't know his lowest minutes until after next year.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: JDeafv (---.howard01.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 17, 2006 08:32PM

I need a diagram to understand this list ... is it good or bad to be at the top of the list? screwy
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: KeithK (---.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
Date: January 18, 2006 02:56AM

Good. It means you played a lot every year you were at Cornell.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.oracorp.com)
Date: January 18, 2006 09:42AM

Trotsky
Cornell's goalies ranked by the highest lowest number of minutes -- i.e., taking all 4 years into account, and then taking the goalie's year of lowest Mins, and then ranking the goalies highest to lowest.

[opening can of worms] Presumably Louis Chabot will be on this list also, with a lowest minutes of 0 (so and jr), although perhaps that disqualifies him. Still, Chabot should receive consideration for being Cornell's only four-year backup ever (unless Don Fawcett was with the varsity all four years in the mid-80's -- I don't think he was).


Note: among three-year eligible goalies:

1578 Dryden (sr)
1082 Kennedy (jr)
872 McKibbon (jr)

Also John Detwiler (521 so), who was the goalie for the first three years of the "modern era" and faced a mind-numbing 46 shots a game.
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: January 18, 2006 10:23AM

fenwick
Trotsky
Cornell's goalies ranked by the highest lowest number of minutes -- i.e., taking all 4 years into account, and then taking the goalie's year of lowest Mins, and then ranking the goalies highest to lowest.

[opening can of worms] Presumably Louis Chabot will be on this list also, with a lowest minutes of 0 (so and jr), although perhaps that disqualifies him. Still, Chabot should receive consideration for being Cornell's only four-year backup ever (unless Don Fawcett was with the varsity all four years in the mid-80's -- I don't think he was).

How many years was Nathan Hicks on the roster?
 
Re: Dave McKee
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.oracorp.com)
Date: January 18, 2006 11:57AM

jtwcornell91
How many years was Nathan Hicks on the roster?

Hmm, good question. I don't think he was there for the full four years. He did spend a semester abroad and was, IIRC, a December graduate.
 

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