Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by DeltaOne81
Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 06:53PM
UND 3, Wisc 2 in the last couple minutes of the third for this afternoon game
That'd be a surprise
That'd be a surprise
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: nyc94 (---.ny325.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 06:58PM
UMass 4 Niagara 3 Final
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 06:59PM
ENG Sioux, from their own blue line
4-2 UND with under 10 seconds left
Edit: game over, these teams will meet again tomorrow
4-2 UND with under 10 seconds left
Edit: game over, these teams will meet again tomorrow
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 07:00PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:07PM
SLU already up 2-zip on 'Gate in the first couple minutes.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:10PM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:
SLU already up 2-zip on 'Gate in the first couple minutes.[/q]
That's nuts. Silverthorn let in the first two shots he faced!
SLU already up 2-zip on 'Gate in the first couple minutes.[/q]
That's nuts. Silverthorn let in the first two shots he faced!
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: puff (---.pn.at.cox.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:15PM
not too much different than Traylen.
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Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:19PM
SLU up 3-0, Silverthorn gone. That's good, we want SLU and Brown to remain TsUC.
Brown tied with Dartmouth 1-1.
Brown tied with Dartmouth 1-1.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:20PM
SLU(t) now up 3-0 on 6 shots.
Edit: It was actually on 5 shots.
Edit: It was actually on 5 shots.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 07:21PM by KP '06.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:20PM
Gleed back out, guess he's okay.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:25PM
in Ithaca: Princeton 14, Cornell 5 - 8 minutes left in the half
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:26PM
BC 1, UNH 0 - mid first
Edit: 2-0 BC, 7 min left in the first
Edit: 2-0 BC, 7 min left in the first
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 07:31PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:33PM
And 3-0 BC, UNH switches sieves
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 07:33PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:47PM
27-18 Princeton at the half
4-1 BC after 1
MSU/BGSU scoreless in the first
4-1 BC after 1
MSU/BGSU scoreless in the first
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:54PM
Dartmouth leads Brown, 2-1. That's bad.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:54PM
Cornell 3 Clarkson 0
Colgate 0 SLU 3
Princeton 0 Union 0
Yale 1 RPI 1
Brown 1 Dartmouth 2
Harvard 1 Vermont 1
Colgate 0 SLU 3
Princeton 0 Union 0
Yale 1 RPI 1
Brown 1 Dartmouth 2
Harvard 1 Vermont 1
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 07:59PM
Now Green 3 Brown 1.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:13PM
US Under-18 up over Michigan 2-1 ![B-]](http://elf.elynah.com/smileys/11.gif "B-]")
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:18PM
MSU 2, BGSU 1 after 1
Princeton 36, CU 32 - 11:54 left
Princeton 36, CU 32 - 11:54 left
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:21PM
SLU 4 Gate 1
Green 4 Brown 2
Harvard 2 Vermont 1
Green 4 Brown 2
Harvard 2 Vermont 1
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:27PM
woah, Cornell 42, Princeton 36 - 7:30 to go
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:37PM
Wow, that was a 10-pt run. 
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:40PM
From a USCHO poster (accuracy not guaranteed):
Current scores:
Cornell 3 Clarkson 0
Colgate 1 SLU 4
Brown 2 Dartmouth 4
Harvard 2 Vermont 1
Princeton 0 Union 0
Yale 2 RPI 1
If those hold up, the final standings would be:
1. Cornell
2. Harvard
3. Colgate
4. Dartmouth
----------------
5. Vermont
6. Brown
7. SLU
8.Union
----------------
9. Clarkson
10. Princeton
11. RPI
12. Yale
Current scores:
Cornell 3 Clarkson 0
Colgate 1 SLU 4
Brown 2 Dartmouth 4
Harvard 2 Vermont 1
Princeton 0 Union 0
Yale 2 RPI 1
If those hold up, the final standings would be:
1. Cornell
2. Harvard
3. Colgate
4. Dartmouth
----------------
5. Vermont
6. Brown
7. SLU
8.Union
----------------
9. Clarkson
10. Princeton
11. RPI
12. Yale
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:40PM
Now Princeton up by 1 - 45-44, as Cornell hasn't sunk much in a while, 3:30 to go
Edit: 46-45 Cornell now, under 3 to go
Edit: 46-45 Cornell now, under 3 to go
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 08:40PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:42PM
Reverse layup after Princeton freethrows, 48-47 Cornell
Offensive rebound Princeton, 49-48 Princeton
1:30 to go
Princeton ball with just over a minute to go
Offensive rebound Princeton, 49-48 Princeton
1:30 to go
Princeton ball with just over a minute to go
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 08:43PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:43PM
Cornell gets the ball back on a block and takes the timeout with 55.8 remainnig, down by 1
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:45PM
offensive rebound after a missed 3 - 5 second differential
foul called against Princeton - 2 freethrows w/ double penalty in place, 31.8 seconds left
foul called against Princeton - 2 freethrows w/ double penalty in place, 31.8 seconds left
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:45PM
CU down 1, Collins gets fouled and 2 free throws. 30 secs left.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:46PM
makes the first one...
and the other!
TO Princeton with 17.6 left
and the other!
TO Princeton with 17.6 left
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 08:47PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:49PM
Knocked out by Cornell, Princeton will inbound with 8.5 left, under the basket - timeout again
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:50PM
can't lay it in and Cornell with the rebound, good setup by Princeton, but it bounces out
4.0 seconds and Cornell with two freethrows
Makes the first one...
and the second!
CU takes a timeout
4.0 seconds and Cornell with two freethrows
Makes the first one...
and the second!
CU takes a timeout
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 08:51PM by DeltaOne81.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:53PM
pass intercepted and its over... Cornell sweeps Princeton for the first time in something like 20 years!!
... now back to your reguarly scheduled hockey ...
... now back to your reguarly scheduled hockey ...
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:53PM
First season sweep since '84-'85!
What a night for the seniors!
Sounds like a big crowd, too.
What a night for the seniors!
Sounds like a big crowd, too.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jy3 (---.buff.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:54PM
1st season sweep in 20 years...oops, someone posted that. pretty sweet. LGR! 
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Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 08:56PM
Man, that's a good win.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:06PM
Dartmouth up 6-2 over Brown 
Re: Sat 2/26 other scores - Sucks/UVM
Posted by: Killer (---.c3-0.nat-ubr6.sbo-nat.ma.cable.rcn.co)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:14PM
Du gave the puck away in the last seconds, but Hyphen made the save. Going to OT 2-2
Gotta admit, UVM crowd sounds pretty good.
3:40 to go in OT
Gotta admit, UVM crowd sounds pretty good.
3:40 to go in OT
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 09:18PM by Killer.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:16PM
Looks like with St. Lawrence winning, our 2nd round opponent will be any one of Union, Clarkson, Princeton, RPI, or Yale.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: A-19 (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:16PM
'gate lost too, 5-3
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:25PM
BU falls to NU, 2-1
BC looks ready to put UNH away, 5-2 with 1:45 remaining
BC looks ready to put UNH away, 5-2 with 1:45 remaining
Sucks/UVM - 2-2 Final
Posted by: Killer (---.c3-0.nat-ubr6.sbo-nat.ma.cable.rcn.co)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:26PM
Looks like both benefit from the tie. 'Gate loss meant Sucks only needed 1 point to get #2. And UVM finishes 1 point up on Dartmouth for 4th.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:38PM
MSU goes up 4-3 on BSU, with 13:00 remaining
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: ganderson (---.its.yale.edu)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:45PM
Brown drops TUC as more results come in.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 09:52PM by ganderson.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: KP '06 (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 09:49PM
[Q]ganderson Wrote:
On the bright side, Brown somehow remains a TUC (.5003) [/q]
Refresh that page ... I've got them at .4999
Edit: And dropping, as more results get added.
On the bright side, Brown somehow remains a TUC (.5003) [/q]
Refresh that page ... I've got them at .4999
Edit: And dropping, as more results get added.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 09:50PM by KP '06.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: oceanst41 (---.housing.hawaii.edu)
Date: February 26, 2005 10:07PM
DU 5 - Mankato 2 Final
Minny 4 - SCSU 1 Final
these don't help coupled with Brown losing their TUC status
Minny 4 - SCSU 1 Final
these don't help coupled with Brown losing their TUC status
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2005 10:24PM by oceanst41.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 11:32PM
One game left:
[www.goseawolves.com]
Scores so far (to drop into [slack.net] )
[www.goseawolves.com]
Scores so far (to drop into [slack.net] )
20050226 AF 1 WS 5 CH 20050226 AH 3 RM 0 CH 20050226 AI 3 Ar 3 AH 20050226 Ak 2 NO 7 CC 20050226 BC 5 NH 2 HE 20050226 BG 3 MS 6 CC 20050226 Bn 2 Da 6 EC 20050226 By 1 Ca 2 AH 20050226 Cg 3 SL 5 EC 20050226 Cr 3 Ck 0 EC 20050226 DU 5 Mk 2 WC 20050226 Ha 2 Vt 2 EC 20050226 LS 2 WM 3 CC 20050226 MA 4 Ni 3 NC 20050226 MD 5 BS 2 NC 20050226 ML 3 Me 5 HE 20050226 Mh 3 HC 2 AH 20050226 Mn 4 SC 1 WC 20050226 Mr 2 Pv 4 HE 20050226 NE 2 BU 1 HE 20050226 NM 6 FS 3 CC 20050226 Pn 0 Un 0 EC 20050226 Qn 5 SH 3 AH 20050226 Wi 2 ND 4 WC 20050226 Ya 2 RP 3 EC
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 26, 2005 11:43PM
If UAA wins, they become a TUC and add 0-2-1 to Minnesota's record vs TUCs. This alone is not enough to flip the criterion and thus the comparison and bump us up to #5, but it helps. For instance if UAA wins and you make Sacred Heart a TUC, we win the Minnesota comparison and go to #4.
So go Seawolves!
So go Seawolves!
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2005 12:07AM
[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote:
If UAA wins, they become a TUC and add 0-2-1 to Minnesota's record vs TUCs. This alone is not enough to flip the criterion and thus the comparison and bump us up to #5, but it helps. For instance if UAA wins and you make Sacred Heart a TUC, we win the Minnesota comparison and go to #4.
So go Seawolves![/q]
Either way, a 4-5 matchup of cornell and minn is the worst situation possible for those of us hoping to see cornell go to an eastern regional.
If UAA wins, they become a TUC and add 0-2-1 to Minnesota's record vs TUCs. This alone is not enough to flip the criterion and thus the comparison and bump us up to #5, but it helps. For instance if UAA wins and you make Sacred Heart a TUC, we win the Minnesota comparison and go to #4.
So go Seawolves![/q]
Either way, a 4-5 matchup of cornell and minn is the worst situation possible for those of us hoping to see cornell go to an eastern regional.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 12:19AM
If the prime directive is that higher #1s travel least, then why wouldn't the two higher WCHA seeds gobble up the two western regional #1s (one of them to their detriment, since they might have to deal with a road QF at Minny), leaving the two eastern regional #1s to BC (or somebody) and Cornell?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/27/2005 12:20AM by Trotsky.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 12:25AM
[Q]Trotsky Wrote:
If the prime directive is that higher #1s travel least, then why wouldn't the two higher WCHA seeds gobble up the two western regional #1s (one of them to their detriment, since they might have to deal with a road QF at Minny), leaving the two eastern regional #1s to BC (or somebody) and Cornell?
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/27/05 12:20AM by Trotsky.[/q]
That would be the case if we end up a #1. If we end up 5th, we'd be a #2.
They'd want to put 4 and 5 together in a bracket to have the "ideal" matchups, so if we're 5 and Minn is 4, we'd have to be in their bracket.
Now, Minn is the host, which means they have to play at Mariucci.
So if we end up 5 with Minn 4, we would very likely go to Mariucci.
The only way around that would be if the committee decided to do us a big favor and move us east for attendence reasons, but I'd rather not hang my hat on that.
If the prime directive is that higher #1s travel least, then why wouldn't the two higher WCHA seeds gobble up the two western regional #1s (one of them to their detriment, since they might have to deal with a road QF at Minny), leaving the two eastern regional #1s to BC (or somebody) and Cornell?
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/27/05 12:20AM by Trotsky.[/q]
That would be the case if we end up a #1. If we end up 5th, we'd be a #2.
They'd want to put 4 and 5 together in a bracket to have the "ideal" matchups, so if we're 5 and Minn is 4, we'd have to be in their bracket.
Now, Minn is the host, which means they have to play at Mariucci.
So if we end up 5 with Minn 4, we would very likely go to Mariucci.
The only way around that would be if the committee decided to do us a big favor and move us east for attendence reasons, but I'd rather not hang my hat on that.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2005 12:47AM
I'm pretty sure if we are 4-5 in either order with minny, we will end up at mariucci which would be unfortunate.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 12:49AM
[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:
Trotsky Wrote:
If the prime directive is that higher #1s travel least, then why wouldn't the two higher WCHA seeds gobble up the two western regional #1s (one of them to their detriment, since they might have to deal with a road QF at Minny), leaving the two eastern regional #1s to BC (or somebody) and Cornell?
Edited 1 times. Last edit at 02/27/05 12:20AM by Trotsky.[/Q]
That would be the case if we end up a #1. If we end up 5th, we'd be a #2.
They'd want to put 4 and 5 together in a bracket to have the "ideal" matchups, so if we're 5 and Minn is 4, we'd have to be in their bracket.
Now, Minn is the host, which means they have to play at Mariucci.
So if we end up 5 with Minn 4, we would very likely go to Mariucci.
The only way around that would be if the committee decided to do us a big favor and move us east for attendence reasons, but I'd rather not hang my hat on that.[/q]
This is why it's very important for us to get into the top 4 in PWR. If the top four are CC, DU, BC, and Cornell, we will be in Amherst. If we are #5 and Minnesota #4, all else being equal we'll end up in Minneapolis.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:01AM
[Q]Jacob '06 Wrote:
I'm pretty sure if we are 4-5 in either order with minny, we will end up at mariucci which would be unfortunate.[/q]
That of which you are pretty sure is not true. Read this: [www.ncaa.org]
Page 12 says how they fill the bracket:
[Q]
1. The top four teams, as ranked by the committee, are the four No. 1 regional seeds and will be placed in the bracket so that if all four teams advance to the Men s Frozen Four, the No. 1 seed will play the No. 4 seed and the No. 2 seed will play the No. 3 seed in the semi nals.
2. Host institutions that qualify will be placed at home.
3. No. 1 seeds are placed as close to home as possible, in order of their ranking 1-4.
[/Q]
Note that putting the lowest #1 seed in the same regional as the highest #2 seed is not a priority in this list, let alone a higher priority than putting the #1 seeds in nearby regionals.
Suppose the top five are 1. CC 2. DU 3. BC 4. Cornell 5. Minnesota. Then the placement goes like this:
* Minnesota is placed in Minneapolis
* CC is placed in Minneapolis
* DU is placed in Grand Rapids
* BC is placed in Worcester
* Cornell is placed in Amherst
The only thing that would screw this up would be if BU ends up a #4 seed, in which case BC can't go to Worcester, and in that case Cornell would end up in Worcester. (If BU and Amherst are both #4 seeds, I guess BC would go to Grand Rapids to avoid the first-round matchup.)
I'm pretty sure if we are 4-5 in either order with minny, we will end up at mariucci which would be unfortunate.[/q]
That of which you are pretty sure is not true. Read this: [www.ncaa.org]
Page 12 says how they fill the bracket:
[Q]
1. The top four teams, as ranked by the committee, are the four No. 1 regional seeds and will be placed in the bracket so that if all four teams advance to the Men s Frozen Four, the No. 1 seed will play the No. 4 seed and the No. 2 seed will play the No. 3 seed in the semi nals.
2. Host institutions that qualify will be placed at home.
3. No. 1 seeds are placed as close to home as possible, in order of their ranking 1-4.
[/Q]
Note that putting the lowest #1 seed in the same regional as the highest #2 seed is not a priority in this list, let alone a higher priority than putting the #1 seeds in nearby regionals.
Suppose the top five are 1. CC 2. DU 3. BC 4. Cornell 5. Minnesota. Then the placement goes like this:
* Minnesota is placed in Minneapolis
* CC is placed in Minneapolis
* DU is placed in Grand Rapids
* BC is placed in Worcester
* Cornell is placed in Amherst
The only thing that would screw this up would be if BU ends up a #4 seed, in which case BC can't go to Worcester, and in that case Cornell would end up in Worcester. (If BU and Amherst are both #4 seeds, I guess BC would go to Grand Rapids to avoid the first-round matchup.)
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:18AM
Final: Alaska-Anchorage 1, Michigan Tech 0. Root for both of them next weekend.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: Jacob '06 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:19AM
I just got the impression from earlier posts in other threads that bracket integrity was most important, and minn is definitely in mariucci. Would they really make the 1 or 2 seed face the 5 seed in their regional?
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: puff (---.pn.at.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:25AM
According to some people (particularly out west), pulling cornell as the #5 seed would be better than potentially what 6-8 could be. Because we are sooo overrated .
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Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:27AM
[Q]Jacob '06 Wrote:
I just got the impression from earlier posts in other threads that bracket integrity was most important, and minn is definitely in mariucci. Would they really make the 1 or 2 seed face the 5 seed in their regional?[/q]
People are misusing the term "bracket integrity". To the committee that just means the four #1 seeds each have to face #4 seeds and the four #2 seeds each have to face #3 seeds in the first round. Bracketing the teams 1-16 overall, which seems to be called "competitive equity", is desirable but secondary to the requirements laid out in the list in the document I linked, e.g., keeping hosts at home, putting the #1 seeds in nearby regionals, and preserving the 1/2/3/4 seeds in each regional. We don't know where it stands next to other desirable goals like maximizing attendance.
I just got the impression from earlier posts in other threads that bracket integrity was most important, and minn is definitely in mariucci. Would they really make the 1 or 2 seed face the 5 seed in their regional?[/q]
People are misusing the term "bracket integrity". To the committee that just means the four #1 seeds each have to face #4 seeds and the four #2 seeds each have to face #3 seeds in the first round. Bracketing the teams 1-16 overall, which seems to be called "competitive equity", is desirable but secondary to the requirements laid out in the list in the document I linked, e.g., keeping hosts at home, putting the #1 seeds in nearby regionals, and preserving the 1/2/3/4 seeds in each regional. We don't know where it stands next to other desirable goals like maximizing attendance.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:31AM
[Q]puff Wrote:
According to some people (particularly out west), pulling cornell as the #5 seed would be better than potentially what 6-8 could be. Because we are sooo overrated .[/q]
We may be overrated to the extent that we should be #7 rather than #5 or #3. No shame in that. It's complete nonsense to assert we don't belong in the top 10.
According to some people (particularly out west), pulling cornell as the #5 seed would be better than potentially what 6-8 could be. Because we are sooo overrated .[/q]
We may be overrated to the extent that we should be #7 rather than #5 or #3. No shame in that. It's complete nonsense to assert we don't belong in the top 10.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: puff (---.pn.at.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 01:39AM
I definately agree with that. But you never know, of the top 8 team some teams might think they would want to play us if given the choice. But really who in thier right mind wants to face a solid team on a streak with a good goalie whose on fire?
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Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.raytheon.com)
Date: February 27, 2005 10:25AM
Okay, so a few ideas for routing this upcoming weekend:
1) SLU sweeps to keep them quite safely a TUC
2) Brown sweeps to keep them with a chance of being a TUC
3) UAA sweeps UAF - important if they are to stay a TUC - although 3 out of 4 points might be okay
4) UND sweeps SCSU, on the off chance that SCSU could drop out of TUC status. Minn's 2
"TUC wins" (and I use that term lightly for a team well under .500) over them this weekend are currently the difference as to why they're ahead of us this weekend.
5) Of course hope MTU get can a win or more against Minn.
6) For the weekend after, in the WCHA postseason, I find it interesting that it is quite likely that Minn and UAA will square off in the first round. Minn is currently 4th and UAA is 7th. Both UAA and MSU-Mankato, the only team that could pass them, are done with their WCHA schedules. Minn is 4th and 2 points behind #3 Wisconsin. Wisconsin plays today and could open that up to 4 points with 2 games left. Then, any point that the Badgers get over MSU next weekend would seal the Minn-UAA matchup.
Considering UAA went 1-0-1 their last weekend at Minn, if they could even get one more at Minn in the first round, that would be helpful and help keep them a TUC. We can only pray for UAA maybe even taking that series
7) I'm routing for Dartmouth too so they can keep their at large bid hopes alive - which are in pretty good shape right now at #9, but things are volatile. The only ECAC 1st round series that doesn't matter for the NCAA tournament is Union/Clarkson.
1) SLU sweeps to keep them quite safely a TUC
2) Brown sweeps to keep them with a chance of being a TUC
3) UAA sweeps UAF - important if they are to stay a TUC - although 3 out of 4 points might be okay
4) UND sweeps SCSU, on the off chance that SCSU could drop out of TUC status. Minn's 2
"TUC wins" (and I use that term lightly for a team well under .500) over them this weekend are currently the difference as to why they're ahead of us this weekend.
5) Of course hope MTU get can a win or more against Minn.
6) For the weekend after, in the WCHA postseason, I find it interesting that it is quite likely that Minn and UAA will square off in the first round. Minn is currently 4th and UAA is 7th. Both UAA and MSU-Mankato, the only team that could pass them, are done with their WCHA schedules. Minn is 4th and 2 points behind #3 Wisconsin. Wisconsin plays today and could open that up to 4 points with 2 games left. Then, any point that the Badgers get over MSU next weekend would seal the Minn-UAA matchup.
Considering UAA went 1-0-1 their last weekend at Minn, if they could even get one more at Minn in the first round, that would be helpful and help keep them a TUC. We can only pray for UAA maybe even taking that series
7) I'm routing for Dartmouth too so they can keep their at large bid hopes alive - which are in pretty good shape right now at #9, but things are volatile. The only ECAC 1st round series that doesn't matter for the NCAA tournament is Union/Clarkson.
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (---.no.no.cox.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 11:08AM
Also root for Maine to keep them in the top 15 of the raw RPI and preserve our one "quality win".
Re: Saturday 2/26 other scores
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: February 27, 2005 09:06PM
Another thought:
In both comparisons with DU and CC, we lose RPI, lose TUC, tie COP, and no H2Hs. So if we could flip RPI in either of them, we could tie the comparison and win by RPI-tiebreaker. Now, CC and DU play each other this weekend, so they can't both lose, but if CC was to sweep DU, according to JTW's script, we would only be 0.0012 behind DU in RPI, and we can see what happens from there.
Also, we get the better of the bonuses in that situation - as we have 1 neutral win, and CC and DU only have one home win. That of course depends on Maine staying in the top 15.
So, not only is it feasible for us to switch the Minn comparison, albeit with a number of TUC-related things falling in the right place, it is also possible for us to switch the DU comparison, although it would require CC to beat DU pretty well this weekend as well as us probably getting 4 Ws.
All in all, cross your fingers and hope, but it *could* all fall into place.
In both comparisons with DU and CC, we lose RPI, lose TUC, tie COP, and no H2Hs. So if we could flip RPI in either of them, we could tie the comparison and win by RPI-tiebreaker. Now, CC and DU play each other this weekend, so they can't both lose, but if CC was to sweep DU, according to JTW's script, we would only be 0.0012 behind DU in RPI, and we can see what happens from there.
Also, we get the better of the bonuses in that situation - as we have 1 neutral win, and CC and DU only have one home win. That of course depends on Maine staying in the top 15.
So, not only is it feasible for us to switch the Minn comparison, albeit with a number of TUC-related things falling in the right place, it is also possible for us to switch the DU comparison, although it would require CC to beat DU pretty well this weekend as well as us probably getting 4 Ws.
All in all, cross your fingers and hope, but it *could* all fall into place.
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