Polls 2/9/04

USCHO Division I Men's Poll
February 9, 2004

   Team        (First Place)    Record  Pts   Last Week
 1 Boston College       (36)    20-3-4  596     2
 2 North Dakota          (4)    19-5-3  544     1
 3 Maine                        20-6-2  504     3
 4 Minnesota                    18-9-3  465     5
 5 Michigan                     19-8-1  414     4
 6 Minnesota-Duluth             18-8-3  400     6
 7 Wisconsin                    17-9-6  376     9
 8 Miami                        18-9-3  313     7
 9 St. Cloud State              16-9-3  274     8
10 New Hampshire               16-10-3  190    10
11 Brown                        14-5-4  185    12
12 Denver                      16-10-4  170    11
13 Massachusetts                16-6-5  144    14
14 Ohio State                  17-13-0   71    13
15 Colgate                      15-8-5   55    15

Others Receiving Votes: Colorado College 35,
Michigan State 17, Notre Dame 12, Bemidji State 10, 
Ferris State 6, Niagara 6, Providence 4, Dartmouth 3, 
Holy Cross 3, Rensselaer 2, Cornell 1

One person thought us befitting of 15th in the country. I wonder if it's the same person who might have RPI 14th and Dartmouth 13th.

USA Today/American Hockey Magazine Top 15 Hockey Poll


The USA Today/American Hockey Magazine weekly Top 15 
men's college hockey poll with first-place votes in parentheses,
total points and previous ranking: 

(as of February 9, 2004) 

     TEAM                       W-L-T       PTS      LW
     ----                       -----       ---      --
  1. Boston College (30)       20-3-5       503       2
  2. North Dakota (4)          19-5-3       470       1
  3. Maine                     20-6-2       423       3
  4. Minnesota                 18-9-3       396       5
  5. Michigan                  19-8-1       361       4
  6. Minnesota-Duluth          18-8-3       342       6
  7. Wisconsin                 17-9-6       324       9
  8. Miami (Ohio)              18-9-3       287       7
  9. St. Cloud State           16-9-3       241       9
 10. Brown                     14-5-4       162      13      
 11. New Hampshire            16-10-3       160      10
 12. Denver                   16-10-4       125      11
 13. Massachusetts             16-6-5       123      12
 14. Colgate                   15-8-5        59      15
 15. Ohio State               17-13-0        57      14

       
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 32, Michigan State 9, Holy Cross 4,
Cornell 1, Providence 1.

Again, the 15th place vote.



Post Edited (02-10-04 09:46)

I didn't think Cornell would be able to bounce back into the polls, but I really thought we'd get more than a single vote.

One of the guys who got revenge on Volonnino wrote:

I didn't think Cornell would be able to bounce back into the polls, but I really thought we'd get more than a single vote.

I don't exactly think we deserve the vote, but I think we deserve at least as much as what Bemidji St., Niagara or HC gets.

It's drag vs lift.

The voters have finally caught up with how average we were prior to the weekend -- I mean, an 8-7-6 ECAC team having just been swept -- what were we doing getting any votes last week?

Then a little lift from the weekend sweep gets us back in, at #26.

Even with another pair of wins this coming weekend (hope, hope), I wouldn't expect us to move past the Alsos.

It hasn't been mentioned yet - I don't think - but I noticed Harvard is back in the PairWise Rankings I gather as a result of the Yale game and/or improving their SOS by playing BC again. It's only worth noting because it improves our otherwise poor record against TUCs.

only teams at or above .500 are TUC's ... thats why they are back in the PWR.

More accurately, only teams with an RPI above .500 are TUCs.

I know WHY they are again a TUC but that was hardly the point. Off the top of my head I couldn't quantify what a win over Yale or a loss to BC does to one's RPI. I just pointed it out because Cornell now has two more wins over TUCs.

the polls, all we have to do to prove ourself is win the ECAC

And Harvard is right back out of the PWR.

Oh, man. They're so bad.

Ain't no jam in Cambridge...

I wonder who would win a game between Cornell and Bemidji State...just more evidence of how meaningless these polls really are.

[q]I wonder who would win a game between Cornell and Bemidji State...just more evidence of how meaningless these polls really are.[/q]
If you believe the KRACH ratings (http://uscho.com/rankings/?data=krach), at the moment Cornell would win 59% of the time. Cornell 132.7, Bemidji State 90.88,

While it may have looked good to top the polls at the end of last season, the polls tell only part of the story that the RPI tells, the RPI tells only part of the story that the Pairwise tells, the Pairwise tells only part of the story that the Krach tells, the Krach tells only part of the story that the committee will tell us in March for the NCAA's and we already know that without winning back-to-back ECAC titles in Albany, the Committee is going to tell us to take the rest of March off. So, let's get our top four finish and our bye, get healthy and let the silly pollsters who somehow thought two road wins was 'good' enough to drop out of all but one voters top 15 and lets win the ECAC tournament, get to the NCAA's and remind the new #1 team in the nation and new Beanpot champions, who beat them in the NCAA tournament last year.

No I didn't just see Miracle but it's an example that at any point any team can rise to the occasion. And on any given night, especially in the ECAC but anywhere, any team can knock off anybody not purely out of luck but by playing like a 'team, team, team' as my beloved Patriots just showed us. So let's get tough guys and let's keep the roll going back home this weekend.

There's a small difference this year. We get to the NCAA's this year by winning the conference tourney, but unlike last year, I don't feel we have a team that can really win it all.

Which "all"?

The NCAAs? Not a chance in hell.
The ECACs? As good a chance as the '86 or '96 teams, at least.

Not to mention 1980...

[Q]The NCAAs? Not a chance in hell.[/Q]You don't think we could if we all got together and found a soul or three to sell?

I've got a nomination...



Post Edited (02-10-04 19:36)

You have to have one to sell it.

I see we have the same nomination. Point taken.

It may actually have a soul. It's a brain that we all agree is AWOL.

JH

As good as we were last year, let's not forget we were this " close to not winning the ECAC's or getting to Buffalo. This team certainly has a decent chance to win the ECAC's and even a NCAA game (or 2??). We will never be a lock to win anything, it's just not in the cards ( or admissions, lack of scholarships, etc. ).