[ot] hahvahd sucks but... fitzpatrick

I've read in some places that the 50 is a rumor and that he actually scored a 38. However, a 38 is still considered an A+ at Harvard.
Checking on it, I found an article on a St. Louis Rams website quoting Fitzpatrick saying that he had a 38.
[www.clanram.com]

15 sample questions appear here:
[espn.go.com]

Well... Looking at the samples - I messed up the math on one of them so I got 14/15.
Extrapolating conservatively gives me ---> 46/50!

Wooo! I'm smarter than every current NFL player!!!

I'm pretty sure it also entails working the problems out under a pretty short time limit. Additionally, we've all taken tests that have had a major part in determining our future, say the SATs, LSATs, MCATs, etc. Now imagine you were taking these 50 simple questions under a time-limit with your career and millions of dollars at stake. Those questions might be a bit tougher.

Well the time limit existed on the little sample test so that's out. I made sure to match the same time as the real test. (Hence, stupid math error)

In fact time is really the whole test. Most educated people I suspect can get every single one of these questions, but they have 14.4 seconds per question!

Anyway, I just realized that I meant my last comment to be tongue in cheek, but it didn't come out that way... This isn't an intelligence test. Its a test on how quickly you can process simple number/logic calculations and follow instructions. By default, engineers should do better than football players.

[Q]HeafDog Wrote:
On a side note, however, it was a bit unfair for Tom Jackson and Chris Berman to say that he's the smartest QB in the history of the Rams' organization.[/q]

Especially considering that Pat Haden was a Rhodes Scholar.

[Q]HeafDog Wrote:

(On a side note, however, it was a bit unfair for Tom Jackson and Chris Berman to say that he's the smartest QB in the history of the Rams' organization... )[/q]

I feel the need to point out that Pat Haden was a Rhodes scholar. [oops, just noticed it's already been noted.] I went to high school with Pat for a year. He is pretty bright.

OTOH, it's entirely possible that Fitzpatrick is indeed the smartest QB in NFL history. I grew up a Rams fan and have fired them as my favorite team since their ownership has been nuts for a decade or so now. Maybe it's time to consider taking them back.

Karl

[Q]jkahn Wrote:

15 sample questions appear here:[/q]
Should any of those questions except number 11 take more than 3 to 5 seconds to solve?

[q]In fact time is really the whole test. Most educated people I suspect can get every single one of these questions, but they have 14.4 seconds per question![/q]Yes, the test is all about time. Playing pro football doesn't require you to be a genius. As complicated as they've become, NFL formations and plays are not rocket science. But you do need to be able to assess game situations quickly and make good decisions quickly based on the information you've gathered.

Just found this on ESPN.com. Mel Kiper Jr. has Kevin Boothe listed fourth among all the senior guards in the nation. Pretty impressive. I was just wondering when was the last time a Cornell student was drafted to the NFL. Anybody know?

Guards
1. Jason Spitz, Louisville
2. Rob Sims, Ohio St.
3. Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
4. Kevin Boothe, Cornell
5. Davin Joseph, Oklahoma

And here's what Mel had to say about him

Offensive Line
Kevin Boothe, Cornell -- It doesn't look like there will be many, if any, blue-chip non-Division I-A players in the 2006 draft. One who has emerged comes from the Ivy League, and Boothe will be the first non-Division I-A player drafted. He's big (6-4, 327 pounds) and versatile, having played left tackle, right tackle and guard. He'll bring a lot of versatility when he comes into the NFL. He's got long arms and he's strong and technically sound, with decent foot work. Boothe really toys with the defensive ends he's playing against. If he does well in the postseason all-star games and at the combine workout, he certainly could be a second- or third-round draft choice. Boothe is the top non-Division I-A prospect in this draft.


Boothe is a three-time All-Ivy selection, including a two-time first-team pick. His tremendous size and quickness, along with a great understanding of the game, has put him on the NFL radar screen entering his final season. He made the transition from right guard to right tackle with ease last season and has since been shifted to left tackle. He was the only unanimous first-team Ancient Eight selection on the offensive line in 2004 and has been named a preseason All-American by the Sports Network and I-AA.org.

[Q]jimmy Wrote:

Just found this on ESPN.com. Mel Kiper Jr. has Kevin Boothe listed fourth among all the senior guards in the nation. Pretty impressive. I was just wondering when was the last time a Cornell student was drafted to the NFL. Anybody know?[/q]

[www.nfl.com]

Hard or not, 50 or 38, he supposedly had the highest Wonderlic score ever- although he may have tied Sucks' Pat McNally - but punters don't really count.

Nice to see some pub in the NYT too.

A Harvard Man Aces His First N.F.L. Test
[www.nytimes.com]

Seems to me all the shapes except #5 have at least 2 paralel (how do you spell that??)sides. # 5 has no sides paralel...

[Q]TimV Wrote:

Seems to me all the shapes except #5 have at least 2 paralel (how do you spell that??)sides. # 5 has no sides paralel... [/q]

That was actually my original thought when I first looked at that question.

[Q]TimV Wrote:

Seems to me all the shapes except #5 have at least 2 paralel (how do you spell that??)sides. # 5 has no sides paralel... [/q]

I guess being able to interpret (grasp? guess? divine?) someone's intent despite inarticulate instruction would be a much more useful skill in professional football than any other for which Wonderlic probably tests.

[Q]johnnieAg'99 Wrote:

Hard or not, 50 or 38, he supposedly had the highest Wonderlic score ever- although he may have tied Sucks' Pat McNally - but punters don't really count.

Nice to see some pub in the NYT too.

A Harvard Man Aces His First N.F.L. Test
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ouch, that link doesnt work with firefox

[Q]RichH Wrote:

jimmy Wrote:

Just found this on ESPN.com. Mel Kiper Jr. has Kevin Boothe listed fourth among all the senior guards in the nation. Pretty impressive. I was just wondering when was the last time a Cornell student was drafted to the NFL. Anybody know?[/Q]
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This link goes further back. I'm not sure why NFL.com's website doesn't go past 1982. Marinaro is the only Cornellian to go higher than the 4th round; he was drafted 24th in the 2nd round (50th overall)in 1972, although tackle Frank Wydo was drafted 29th overall (4th pick in the 5th round) in 1947.