11/21 Polls/Rankings

USCHO:
1 Michigan (31) 9-1-1 787 1
2 Wisconsin ( 8) 9-1-2 760 2
3 Colorado College ( 1) 11-2-1 728 3
4 Maine 9-3-0 678 4
5 Vermont 9-2-0 572 8
6 Boston College 5-3-1 569 6
7 Minnesota 6-3-3 515 10
8 North Dakota 8-5-1 479 7
9 New Hampshire 7-4-1 450 9
10 Miami 7-2-1 440 12
11 Cornell 4-3-1 421 5
12 St. Lawrence 9-3-0 353 15
13 Denver 5-5-2 320 11
14 Harvard 6-2-0 278 19
15 Colgate 7-2-2 245 17
16 Alaska-Fairbanks 5-3-2 202 14
17 Bemidji State 8-2-0 137 16
18 Michigan State 5-5-3 103 13
19 Clarkson 8-3-1 90 NR
20 Boston University 3-4-1 74 18
Others Receiving Votes: Providence 56, Ferris State 37, Ohio State 30, Northern Michigan 29, Rensselaer 26, Mercyhurst 8, Nebraska-Omaha 4, Union 3, Minnesota-Duluth 2, Niagara 2, Quinnipiac 1, St. Cloud State 1


INCH:
1. Michigan
2. Wisconsin
3. Colorado College
4. Maine
5. Vermont
6. Minnesota
7. Boston College
8. North Dakota
9. Miami
10. UNH
11. Harvard
12. Colgate
13. Denver
14. SLU
15. Alaska-Fairbanks
16. Clarkson
17. Cornell
18. Bemidji State
19. Providence
20. Ferris State

Dropped Out: Michigan State, Northern Michigan, Lake Superior State

Bubble-licious: Dartmouth, Ohio State, Rensselaer, Michigan State

Largest difference I can recall between the polls.

Edit: oh, never mind, it's INCH. I'd expect USAToday to be in the 11-13 range.

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

oh, never mind, it's INCH[/q]

(thinking of their power ratings over the past few seasons)

Maybe now we can get the bullseye off our back.

As far as I can tell, the USA Today rankings aren't out yet. I think the INCH rankings are a little extreme. I find it hard to believe that Cornell should drop below ALL the other ranked ECACHL teams (particularly Clarkson since we haven't really played anyone of consequence yet).

I always take the INCH "Power Rankings" to be more of a subjective measure of team momentum...whatever that means.

[Q]daredevilcu Wrote:

As far as I can tell, the USA Today rankings aren't out yet. I think the INCH rankings are a little extreme. I find it hard to believe that Cornell should drop below ALL the other ranked ECACHL teams (particularly Clarkson since we haven't really played anyone of consequence yet).[/q]

On the other hand, why would the USCHO poll have us above

We're above Colgate because we were ranked #5 last week and they were #17. It means that the voters had higher expectations for us than they had for the guys from hamilton. It's November - expectations still have a lot to do with poll rankings. Rightly so, because there's lots of time to play up to expectations.

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

We're above Colgate because we were ranked #5 last week and they were #17. It means that the voters had higher expectations for us than they had for the guys from hamilton. It's November - expectations still have a lot to do with poll rankings. Rightly so, because there's lots of time to play up to expectations.[/q]

Let's see how many times we can say expectations in a paragraph.

[q]Let's see how many times we can say expectations in a paragraph. [/q]I'm an engineer. Rules against reuse don't apply in technical writing. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

Edit: It's all a question of expectations.

[Q]KeithK Wrote:


I'm an engineer. Rules against reuse don't apply in technical writing. Or at least that's what I tell myself.

Edited 1 times. Last edit at 11/21/05 05:40PM by KeithK.[/q]

Only for the bigger words.

[Q]duffs4 Wrote:
Maybe now we can get the bullseye off our back.[/q]I don't think any figurative bullseye has been the problem.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine
Men's College Hockey Poll - Nov. 21, 2005
					    Last Weeks in
No. Team 	 	Points	   Record   Week  top 15
1.  Michigan 	 	506 (31)    9-1-1    1	    8
2.  Wisconsin 	 	477 (3)	    9-1-2    2      8
3.  Colorado College	445	   11-2-1    3	    8
4.  Maine 		408	    9-3-0    4 	    8
5.  Vermont 		346	    9-2-0    9	    6
6.  Boston College 	314	    5-3-1    5	    8
7.  Minnesota 		285	    6-3-3   10	    8
8.  North Dakota 	258	    8-5-1    8	    8
9.  New Hampshire 	233	    7-4-1    7	    8
10. Miami (Ohio) 	228	    7-2-1   11	    4
11. Cornell		160	    4-3-1    6	    8
12. St. Lawrence 	139	    9-3-0   15	    2
13. Denver 		96	    5-5-2   12	    8
14. Harvard 		82	    6-2-0   NR	    3
15. Colgate		35	    7-2-2   NR	    1

Others receiving votes: University of Alaska Fairbanks, 29; Clarkson
University, 12; Bemidji State University, 11; Mercyhurst College, 6; 
The Ohio State University, 4; Boston University, 3; Michigan State
University, 3.

I miss the ranking of the top 10 collegiate hockey teams. Lets face it - this is not basketball where there are a million programs. I put a fair amount of faith in their ability to rank the top 10 teams...when you get to the 15 and 20 top programs in hockey you are getting to the middle-of-the-road teams in the college hockey landscape and lots more subjectivity...not to mention the mediocrity of the "bubble" teams at that point. CU was clearly expected to be a top 10 team and they clearly are not at this point - though the team could certainly get there.

I second the idea that top 20 is ridiculous.